Now where can I hang my Glade Scent on the bike?? [Archive]

wkid_one

3rd July 2004, 21:31

WHat a crock of shit, check this out

Fragrant cars safer

30 June 2004 <TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width=5 border=0><TBODY><TR><TD height=5>http://www.stuff.co.nz/inl/images/null.gif</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>By DAVE MOORE

Those plastic air fresheners can actually help you drive more safely, says research from Cardiff University.

It was found that some smells help sharpen your driving skills, while others lift your mood and help you focus and concentrate.

The study reveals that peppermint, citrus and lavender scents have the most pronounced effect on motorists. Lemon is a good choice to wake you up, while lavender calms you down. Vanilla reduced anxiety only in those who actually liked the smell, while floral odours in general were found to cut alertness. But using no fragrance enhacers at all also has a negative effect, as studies have shown that the vinyl and plastics in car interiors can induce drowsiness and headaches.

Jackrat

3rd July 2004, 21:58

Well no it's not a croc of shit.
Lemon esence is a natural anesthetic and does help clear the mind as well.
It's called aroma therapy and as much as it sounds like a load of new age BS it really does work.Why do you think women like Lavender so much??
Blokes tend to not notice it so much because we are auraly inclined,but most women are sensualy inclined.That's why most blokes like porno and most women like flowers and smelly stuff.
Just in case you wondered,my Mrs makes scented soaps.
Buy your woman some lavender & Rosemary soap,you'll be pleasantly suprised with the reaction.
What they say about plastics is also true,the stuff is poison.

KATWYN

4th July 2004, 10:18

I learnt this last year-

Our emotions are directly connected to our smell senses
so I would beleive that.

Thats why when we smell certain smells it can "take you
back" immediately to a time you remember and you will feel
the emotion associated with it. Can be good ....and bad.

KATWYN

4th July 2004, 10:19

What they say about plastics is also true,the stuff is poison.

My job is production management in a plastics factory. I've had
OSH (at my request) come in and check it all out (ie) ventilation and
the types of plastics we use. It really depends on the temperatures
the plastics are melted at as to when they become especially toxic
and ventilations important. OSH had no problem with any of it, but
its interesting because I can't smell the plastic any more and yet I get
people coming in for the first time saying things like "wow that plastic
smell is strong"

I think the toxins in our food are probably more toxic - or maybe i'm
kidding myself

Hitcher

4th July 2004, 14:37

Aromatherapy??? A discussion of this is best relegated to the "Religious ravings" thread!

Skyryder

4th July 2004, 16:14

"I'm sorry Judge I did not see the bike. My air freshner has run out."

If true then should be mandatory for the cage WOF. Might just save some of us from the Grim Reaper.

Skyryder

wari

4th July 2004, 16:24

wkid_one

4th July 2004, 16:24

My point was not whether it worked or not - but the fact some numbnuts had done a study on it.

Maybe from now on I will clean the inside of my visor with Lemon Scented Pledge!

Yamahamaman

4th July 2004, 17:26

"wow that plastic smell is strong"
A cigarette smoker cannot detect other cigarette smoker's. A non-cigarette smoker is easlily able to smell a cigarette user.

Kickaha

4th July 2004, 17:40

A cigarette smoker cannot detect other cigarette smoker's. A non-cigarette smoker is easlily able to smell a cigarette user.

Years ago we had our landlord visit when we where out along with his pipe smoking father,6 hours later when we got home we could still smell it,even though he did not smoke in our house.

I work in the tyre industry and quite often people comment on the smell of rubber in our warehouse,none of us who work there can smell it anymore.

Personally one of my favourite scents is the smell of race gas :bleh:

Jackrat

4th July 2004, 19:21

Aromatherapy??? A discussion of this is best relegated to the "Religious ravings" thread!

Sorry.wouldn't fit.
Aroma therapy is proven.

MikeL

4th July 2004, 20:19

Aromatherapy??? A discussion of this is best relegated to the "Religious ravings" thread!

God forbid. I don't think I could cope with the stress of finding logical, rational arguments to refute the fanatics... I would have to look for some powerful stress relief. Such as aromatherapy...

:P

In fact I know next to nothing about aromatherapy. What I do know is that the sense of smell is powerfully and directly linked to parts of the psyche that the other senses can't reach...

So don't knock it!

Hitcher

5th July 2004, 08:37

Aroma therapy is proven.

A statement worthy of Zed.

Hitcher

5th July 2004, 08:40

In fact I know next to nothing about aromatherapy. What I do know is that the sense of smell is powerfully and directly linked to parts of the psyche that the other senses can't reach...

"Linked to the psyche"?? Mike, of all people I expected better.

Dropping rock on your foot should also be quite therapeutic. The pain certainly affects my psyche!

Jackrat

5th July 2004, 11:28

"Linked to the psyche"?? Mike, of all people I expected better.

Dropping rock on your foot should also be quite therapeutic. The pain certainly affects my psyche!

So if you don't understand something it's either not real or not true.
As I said Aroma therapy is a proven sience,recognised as such by the Medical proffesions.Considering they don't like anything outside of their own understanding and research I'd say it has to have something going for it.
Aroma therapy has NOTHING to do with religion or anything spiritual it's like a lot of other medical approaches that because they are not western in origin
have until resent times been ignored by our society.
Ignorance is a very poor foundation to base any argument on.
Rather than taking cheap shots at open minded people like Mike why don't you just check it out.
By the way after reading a lot of Mikes posts,he comes across as being fairly open minded, so I'm not surprised at all that he would remain so when he comes across something he admits to not knowing much about.
That's how we learn right!! and that's why I remain sceptical about religion,I like to reseach things an form an opinion on what can be proven.Aroma therapy is about chemical reactions and more than just a few of our modern drugs are based on it,religion is about faith.I can see one but have to take somebodys word for the other.
Like I say check it out, an opinion based on ignorance is a real bad look.

Devil

5th July 2004, 11:37

Kinda like some dog owners saying "oh our little dog doesnt smell at all" and being a non dog owner/lover I think the place stinks.

Blegh.

MikeL

5th July 2004, 11:59

As I said I know very little about aromatherapy but as far as I can tell there's nothing there that an atheistic materialist could disapprove of in principle. It's just chemistry...
And my reference to the psyche was not intended to suggest anything spiritual in this instance. I was thinking more along the lines of some Proustian moment when a sudden whiff or taste of something has the power to evoke long-buried memories.

Hitcher

5th July 2004, 12:35

scumdog

5th July 2004, 12:42

yep, the smell of a certain thing has my top lip curling back!!!!! (that probably went over the heads of most city-slickers)

If you want to know about plastics in new cars just look at the film that developes on the inside of the windscreen, I can't see that stuff "enhancing" your life, only shortening it.

MikeL

5th July 2004, 13:13

There is a lot written on this matter and I offer just one link for the purposes of defending my position on this.

http://skepdic.com/aroma.html

... in which the author states...
"I would not reject aromatherapy out of hand, however... Strictly speaking, I suppose I am a practicing aromatherapist."

:bleh:

Hitcher

5th July 2004, 13:22

... in which the author states...
"I would not reject aromatherapy out of hand, however... Strictly speaking, I suppose I am a practicing aromatherapist."

:bleh:

Indeed. If something works for somebody then it has value for them (as I said earlier, this discussion should be on the RR thread!). I wasn't endeavouring to dismiss aromatherapy out of hand, rather I was disputing its reputation as something "scientific" or "proven".

merv

5th July 2004, 13:24

Can you go 50 pages on this though, that is the question?

Me I get allergies so gotta watch the smells a bit.

MikeL

5th July 2004, 13:31

Indeed. If something works for somebody then it has value for them (as I said earlier, this discussion should be on the RR thread!). I wasn't endeavouring to dismiss aromatherapy out of hand, rather I was disputing its reputation as something "scientific" or "proven".

Aw c'mon Hitcher, this is no fun. You're far too reasonable. You should have blasted me for selective quoting, quoting out of context and deliberate, malicious misleading...

:bleh:

Hitcher

5th July 2004, 13:35

Aw c'mon Hitcher, this is no fun. You're far too reasonable. You should have blasted me for selective quoting, quoting out of context and deliberate, malicious misleading...

:bleh:

To quote the prophet Kenny Rodgers: "You've got to know when to hold 'em, know when to fold 'em, know when to walk away and know when to run..."

scumdog

5th July 2004, 13:37

I know how you feel Merv, got my "allergies" too, - bottom burps, pepper spray, vomit, etc etc <_<

One of the positive sides of touring on a 'bike is the extra dimension of scents that you notice unlike when in a car, (not so keen on the burning offal pit odour but it all adds to the experience) plus ya can't gross out the Mrs by peeling off a loud/smelly issue of vapourised eau-de-beer&burger on the way home from the rally!!! :sneaky2:

scumdog

5th July 2004, 13:42

Quote "To quote the prophet Kenny Rodgers: "You've got to know when to hold 'em, know when to fold 'em, know when to walk away and know when to run..."

Thought you were referring to a certain section of my last posting Mr Hitcher, it seemed appropriate :spudbooge

Mongoose

5th July 2004, 13:48

I know how you feel Merv, got my "allergies" too, - bottom burps, pepper spray, vomit, etc etc
<_<
plus ya can't gross out the Mrs by peeling off a loud/smelly issue of vapourised eau-de-beer&burger on the way home from the rally!!! :sneaky2:

Be very careful trying to achieve this SD, a very tricky thing to try AND keep your Y-fronts intact and not giving them a *Ginger Kiss* :Oops:

Jackrat

5th July 2004, 14:36

Far be it from me to single-handedly take on a multi-million dollar industry, but aromatherapy is not "science" or "proven". There is a lot written on this matter and I offer just one link for the purposes of defending my position on this.

http://skepdic.com/aroma.html

I should state for the record that I have similar, but less charitable views on a whole range of "new age" beliefs, crystals being but one...

[Dismounts yet another hobby horse...]
Since when has a medical practice that goes back thosands of years been new age.I also think crystals are a load of shit.
You seem to missed the fact that a lot of our acsepted medical practices of today are based on the use of plant extracts or sythisized versions of them.
It is a proven sience and to Quote a bunch of weidos like the skeptics sure don't help your argument.
Hell those buggers are worse than me <_<

Hitcher

5th July 2004, 14:46

You seem to missed the fact that a lot of our acsepted medical practices of today are based on the use of plant extracts or sythisized versions of them.

Mr Rat, I haven't missed this fact at all. There is a HUGE difference between taking remedies that may be derived from plant extracts or synthetic versions of these, to breathing in aromas from "essential oils". Yes, I accept that a nice aroma can be relaxing and make you feel better. Even better if it's rubbed in by sensuous caring hands... But there is a big difference between treating stress and psychological ailments, and serious medicine. When I see a heart specialist or a gastroenterologist resorting to aromatherapy to cure their patient's ailments I may take a different view! Billy Connelly describes this particularly well in one of his stories describing the aftermath of some heinous smouldering motor accident and a voice crying "Let me through, I'm an aromatherapist!"

Devil

5th July 2004, 15:46

Me I get allergies so gotta watch the smells a bit.
Ditto. The missus bought some smelling thing for her car. I got in and just about had to get straight out again. I couldnt instantly feel my sinuses start to clog.

El Dopa

5th July 2004, 15:54

scumdog

5th July 2004, 16:09

Quote "Be very careful trying to achieve this SD, a very tricky thing to try AND keep your Y-fronts intact and not giving them a *Ginger Kiss*"

THATS exactly why you should always take spare underwear with you, it's nothing to do with in case you're hit by a tramcar despite what your mother tells you. :eek5:

Jackrat

5th July 2004, 17:21

Mr Rat, I haven't missed this fact at all. There is a HUGE difference between taking remedies that may be derived from plant extracts or synthetic versions of these, to breathing in aromas from "essential oils". Yes, I accept that a nice aroma can be relaxing and make you feel better. Even better if it's rubbed in by sensuous caring hands... But there is a big difference between treating stress and psychological ailments, and serious medicine. When I see a heart specialist or a gastroenterologist resorting to aromatherapy to cure their patient's ailments I may take a different view! Billy Connelly describes this particularly well in one of his stories describing the aftermath of some heinous smouldering motor accident and a voice crying "Let me through, I'm an aromatherapist!"

So stress and psychology are not serious??
Us nutters would question that statement.
So if you accept that Aroma therapy does exactly what I originly said,what are you on about then?

Jackrat

5th July 2004, 17:29

Personally, I find a subtle blend of hops, malt, barley, and yeast very relaxing.

But it doesn't seem to do much for my riding/driving. :apint:

Whilst we're on the subject, could I interest any of you gents in a magnetic bed? No?

How about some of that toothpaste that magically makes your teeth stronger? (must be the magical tooth fairy that lives in the tube).

Or a party pack of Dettol, cos, y'know, dem nasty germs is everywhere (better drink some, too, cos (gasp!) there's germs inside you as well!).

Got nothing against aromatherapy. Homeopaths on the other hand...

Listen here fella,I happen to know for a fact that if you got nothing wrong with you and you drink a solution that contains nothing,you get nothing,,,
Homeopaths huh,It works I tell ya' it works <_<
Bloody Wikid,You started this :yes:
Happy now??

Motu

5th July 2004, 17:36

I'm looking for one of those helicopter things to put on the vents of my Pajero - I'm having trouble finding the one I want - burning Castrol 'R'

marty

5th July 2004, 18:45

mmmm....avgas......

Milky

6th July 2004, 07:18

I consider myself to be in the same group as Jackrat - I recognise just how useful aromatherapy can be, but I wouldnt be using it for anything more than stress or psychology. I dont think (correct me if I am wrong) that it was intended to be for much else other than those fields.
I went to a osteopath/homeopath for a few bone complaints, one where I had a pinched?? nerve in my neck intermittently. It arose when bowling a cricket ball, and I would black out for a couple of seconds, then wake up on the ground. Dunno what he did, but it worked really well - didnt have the same problem for many many months after that. During my time there, he did some pressure points and resistance testing. I was quite skeptical at first, but when he turns your foot one way and you can hold your arm up aginst the pressure on it, but with your foot rotated maybe 20 degrees, there is absolutely no strength in the arm muscles...
He did some unrelated 'tests' and told me I may have a calcium/magnesium deficiency, did something to 'correct' it and, it may be coincidence, but in the months after that I actually started growing.
Not to say that I sbscribe to the whole theory, just that this worked for me for little or no apparent reason.