Good riding courses?

[Tints]

What are the good and well done courses to do for shortening my restricted time down in auckland. i want to reduce the time but i want to do something worthwhile to get my skills up as well.:yes:

any suggestions?

[MikeyG]

To shorten time on the restricted you need to do either a defensive driving course or a streetsafe course (pretty much the same thing).

For both of them you would be doing it with a bunch of car drivers and the practical section of the course is done in a car. There are no bike specific courses that will shorten your license time.

System sux but it is still worth doing an addvanced riding course to bring up your skills

[Wasp]

the practical section of the course is done in a car
Wait a second?! i NEED a car to pass a defensive driving course?! What the hell? Your kidding right? I've only got my car learners.....

[Tints]

System sux but it is still worth doing an addvanced riding course to bring up your skills

What are some of the names of the courses for upskilling that are worth while?

[Psy]

Hi there, Im biased because I do work for PassRite, but here is a little bit of info

The Street Talk course that we offer is $145.00 and run once a month at our Penrose office. It is 4 evenings of theory and then a one hour practical.
We do offer the practical to be done on a bike (if you don't have your own you can hire ours for an additional $25.00)

Our office number is 09-636-0111

[CastorPollux]

What are the good and well done courses to do for shortening my restricted time down in auckland. i want to reduce the time but i want to do something worthwhile to get my skills up as well.:yes:

any suggestions?

Hey there,:spudwave:

Check out www.rrrs.org.nz. 'Ride Right, Ride Safe' apparently they teach you how to handle your bike on the road with more confidence and how to identify hazards etc. They have coarses on the 3rd Sunday of every month at the Whenuapai Air Base.
The next coarse is on 19 November (I know because I'm going:scooter: ) and its the last one of the year.

Might see you there

[Ixion]

Be aware though, that although RRRS is excellent, unfortunately it does NOT reduce your time on a restricted licence.

Just keeps you alive. That's all.

[Mr. Peanut]

Just keeps you alive. That's all.

But that doesn't reduce time on anything! :|

[Balding Eagle]

I did two courses through Pass Rite. They were called CBTA courses (competency based training and assessment). The first was from L to Restricted and the second was Restricted to Full. It was approved by LTNZ at the time and reduced my time from initial L to full licence down to five months. When I finished the second course I was under the impression that LTNZ were no longer going to recognise the course. Dumb arse beauracrats because it is far better to teach someone the skills and then test them rather than allow them to go out and learn bad habits and just scrape through a practical test much later. The two courses were very balanced and focused and I would recommend them even if they don't shorten your time because they teach you the right techniques that you can continually put into practice and each day becomes a learning and consolodation experience.

I am also anticipating doing the course at Whenuapai on 19 Nov run by BRONZ. (Although I have sent the cheque but not heard back from them yet.) Just like life, you don't stop learning and knowledge is power.

The guts of it is that the more you learn, the better you will be. Some out there think they don't need to learn any more. There are none so blind as they who will not see.

[Tints]

cheers for all of the info above.
i am probably going to do the passrite course over the summer when i get some money form my summer job. after the idoits i have encountered on my bike recently i am very keen to do a few of the above courses as time goes on. the other course that i want to do is the one down at the taupo track which i have heard about recently.

[mynameis]

Don't go to Passrite they are absolutely shit and hopeless and charge truck loads of money. Did my Basic Handling there and they didn't teach me shit, it was useless, I've done most of the learning myself and through Rider Skills.

Check out their website : www.riderskills.co.nz (http://www.riderskills.co.nz) much more competitive and the blokes awesome, Passrites has a bunch of old twats who think they know it all. And the RRRS course if pretty good so I heard.

Try and also make a few mates from here some of them are awesome and you learn good stuff from them mate. Good luck!

mynameis

[Gremlin]

I have done both the streettalk course (Passrite), and the RRRS course. Psy is 100% correct, it is the only course that will reduce your time on the restricted license.

Some other company I phoned up, in auckland, said I had to sit the practical session 5 in a car.... and I only got my cage learners about a month ago.

RRRS was good, but use it as a course after having a few thousand k under your belt, and sorta an extension of your BHS, once you have practised those skills etc.

There is a thread on KB, by me, with more info on the streettalk course, how it applies etc.

edit: Balding Eagle, as far as I am aware, the course no longer takes bookings, and is running to finish the people already booked, unless that has also ended. It has additional requirements (can't remember off the top of my head) that mean younger people are not eligible for it.

[justsomeguy]

Hi there, Im biased because I do work for PassRite, but here is a little bit of info

The Street Talk course that we offer is $145.00 and run once a month at our Penrose office. It is 4 evenings of theory and then a one hour practical.
We do offer the practical to be done on a bike (if you don't have your own you can hire ours for an additional $25.00)

Our office number is 09-636-0111


It's a pretty good course guys. At the very least it gives you a theoretical framework to base your hazard recognition on.

They do have motorcycles for hire should you require them and the practical motorcycle instructor Mr. Brian Parker (an avid biker himself) really know's his stuff as he's been doing it for many, many years.

[McJim]

The irony is that the courses that will accelerate your move from one licence to another are no use to you as a rider and the course that will help you as a rider won't accelerate your progression.

You must therefore make a decision: $150 to bring that large capacity bike dream closer or $45 to do a course that improves your chances of living long enough to realise the large capacity bike dream.

Guess which one I chose?

[The Stranger]

Hi there, Im biased because I do work for PassRite, but here is a little bit of info

The Street Talk course that we offer is $145.00 and run once a month at our Penrose office. It is 4 evenings of theory and then a one hour practical.
We do offer the practical to be done on a bike (if you don't have your own you can hire ours for an additional $25.00)

Our office number is 09-636-0111

Hello, and welcome to KB.
I did my CBTA with you guys.
I must admit, I did learn a lot from that, not so much about riding skill, but about road craft I guess you would call it.
As a matter of interest, do you know if there are plans to re-introduce the CBTA or similar please?

[justsomeguy]

Guess which one I chose?

Why choose?? Do both.

Then do a few trackdays and country rides to build upon what you've learned.

[McJim]

Why choose?? Do both.
.

Coz I'm a tightfisted bastard that's why - had to say it before someone else did. :rofl:

[Gremlin]

I agree to a point McJim, but the passrite course did actually raise a few useful issues, most useful being why there is the 3 second rule, and how it blows out to about 12 seconds of reaction time being required.

Ok, so bikers don't tend to need the whole 3 initial seconds, as we aren't doing a bazillion things other than piloting our vehicles, but the point remains...

I just can't remember the point... it knocked a third off my restricted :innocent:

[Psy]

Hi there,

Sorry for not replying sooner.

As far as I am aware there are no plans to reintroduce CBTA. (I wish!)

This was cancelled by Land Transport and unfortunately it is not up to us to bring it back, I agree that it was a good course (although at the moment I am only a pillion passenger) and that there should be a way to get through Learner - Restricted - Full, faster if you already have the experience on the road.

And I will let Brian know about the compliment :)