Rear Tyre 190 VS 180!!!

[ShadowNet-Spy21]

I dont know how mand threads there has been in ths forum but im starting one now. I want everyones ideas, negative and positive sides of it(for both track and everyday use). And the photos (if you have a 190 ,cuz it looks f****N awesome).

[MSTRS]

Why? The rim is made to take one OR the other, NOT EITHER.

[The_Dover]

why is mr suzuki sitting on mr yamahahahehe's knee? or is that a yamahaha piano stool?

[Maverick]

why is mr suzuki sitting on mr yamahahahehe's knee? or is that a yamahaha piano stool?

So Suzuki's Crap on Yamahas? :innocent:

[The_Dover]

oh, do yamahaha make toilets too?

[98tls]

Have tried both on my TLs...for road use am happy with the 190..people say the 180 turns in better but i couldnt notice much difference..

[gamgee]

I think it's yamaha giving suzuki a good badgering, indicating either suzuki is for girls, or their both gay, probably that they're both gay...

[The_Dover]

bejesus man, would you look at the turkey strips on that puppy!

[Maverick]

I think it's yamaha giving suzuki a good badgering, indicating either suzuki is for girls, or their both gay, probably that they're both gay...

Nah if it was about gay'ness then Mr Honda would be underneath licking his balls. :dodge:

[MSTRS]

Have tried both on my TLs...for road use am happy with the 190..people say the 180 turns in better but i couldnt notice much difference..

180 and 190 have different profiles. 180 goes on a 5.5" rim and 190 on a 6" rim.
If you mismatch tyre/rim all that will happen is that the tyre will 'adjust' it's profile to suit - and a 180 on a 6" (because it will flatten out) will reach it's edge sooner than a 190 would, whereas a 190 on a 5.5" is never likely to get far enough over to reach it's edge.

[The_Dover]

Nah if it was about gay'ness then Mr Honda would be underneath licking his balls. :dodge:

and if that was indeed the case then it's very rude of mr yamahaha to not be a gentleman and make with a reach around.

i'd also suspect the use of motormacyle rohypnol....

[98tls]

bejesus man, would you look at the turkey strips on that puppy! :dodge: yea they were pretty bad.......gone now after our trip to greymouth in the weekend....problem down here is theres so much flat road to ride before you get to any decent roads....canterbury plains suck....

[Smokin]

I just want to know how you keep it so damn clean?

[98tls]

it gets dirty mate..........tried to get hold of you friday to meet up over there...next time eh....

[sugilite]

I dont know how mand threads there has been in ths forum but im starting one now. I want everyones ideas, negative and positive sides of it(for both track and everyday use). And the photos (if you have a 190 ,cuz it looks f****N awesome).

180's make turn in easier.
190's have better side grip.
Muscle can overcome the slower turn in of the 190, nothing will get you extra side grip from a 180.
If you can use the extra side grip the 190 offers and lap times are of great importance to you, then go for the 190.
All this only applies if you have a 6 inch rim...if you have a 5.5, you are wasting your time with a 190.

[Nutter34]

The Zed came with a 190/50 and it tended to stand up mid corner over bumps... I've now got a 190/55 on and with the different profile it's way better, more stable while cranked... 6" rim on the Zed... The 190/55 has a profile similar to the 180/55 on a 6" and 5" rim respectively... apparently.

And for the record... the 190/55 is actually narrower than the 190/50 was...

It's an age old debate, on just about every forum I've been on.... Don't think I'll bother with a 180 to be honest...

[Scouse]

problem down here is theres so much flat road to ride before you get to any decent roads... of course there is

[terbang]

Busas are standard with a 190/50 on the rear. I have seen quite a few rumblings on various busa boards about guys who fit 180/55's to the 6 inch rim..! They reckon it turns the bike in much quicker. Don't know if its the tyre profile or the raising of the rear or both that does it for them..

[98tls]

of course there is :innocent: flat and straight.......

[ShadowNet-Spy21]

Thank you for the serious comments people. Not including Dover, as i see he just cares about peoples avatars.

[ShadowNet-Spy21]

The Zed came with a 190/50 and it tended to stand up mid corner over bumps... I've now got a 190/55 on and with the different profile it's way better, more stable while cranked... 6" rim on the Zed... The 190/55 has a profile similar to the 180/55 on a 6" and 5" rim respectively... apparently.

And for the record... the 190/55 is actually narrower than the 190/50 was...

It's an age old debate, on just about every forum I've been on.... Don't think I'll bother with a 180 to be honest...

Yea, i would prefer 190 aswell. But the thing is how could 190/55 is narrower?
I would go with 6''. I just love the fatter rear end. I know that the handling will be harder but i dont really care as long as it looks good and it will have better grip on the road.

[Nutter34]

Could be narrower due to being a different manufacturer. Standard was a Bridgestone, Got a Pirelli Supercorsa on now.

I'll definately be paying more attention to the shape of a tyre. Some are more round while other more pointy... The pointiness makes it better in the corners while cranked... I'll sacrifice turn in for cranked stability any time...

[The_Dover]

Yea, i would prefer 190 aswell. But the thing is how could 190/55 is narrower?
I would go with 6''. I just love the fatter rear end. I know that the handling will be harder but i dont really care as long as it looks good and it will have better grip on the road.

see dude, you have a gay avatar and you're too lazy to search for the myriad of other information on this topic.

AND you just want to look cool? about as bright as a black mans arsehole.

I've run a 180 and a 190 on "The King" and didn't notice a huge difference so I'm sticking with what the manufacturer recommends, the 190.

I wonder why the manufacturer recommends a 190? must be cos it looks so fuckin cool.

[Scouse]

Just by the best quality tyre you can aford after all its not all about size its how you use it that matters or so im told anyway

[Smokin]

Just by the best quality tyre you can aford after all its not all about size its how you use it that matters or so im told anyway

I hope it wasn't Mrs zrxer that told you that.

[ShadowNet-Spy21]

see dude, you have a gay avatar and you're too lazy to search for the myriad of other information on this topic.

AND you just want to look cool? about as bright as a black mans arsehole.

I've run a 180 and a 190 on "The King" and didn't notice a huge difference so I'm sticking with what the manufacturer recommends, the 190.

I wonder why the manufacturer recommends a 190? must be cos it looks so fuckin cool.

WOOO. The King.!!! The dover! Dont give a shit who u r k? didnt ask for your stupid ideas about my avatar , neither my thread. Im not gay and i can bet my life on it that i can get better looking girls in a week than you can ever get in your entire life...

[ShadowNet-Spy21]

see dude, you have a gay avatar and you're too lazy to search for the myriad of other information on this topic.

AND you just want to look cool? about as bright as a black mans arsehole.

I've run a 180 and a 190 on "The King" and didn't notice a huge difference so I'm sticking with what the manufacturer recommends, the 190.

I wonder why the manufacturer recommends a 190? must be cos it looks so fuckin cool.

And by the way. I really im glad that you know lots about black mans arsehole... Have fun dude.

[ShadowNet-Spy21]

see dude, you have a gay avatar and you're too lazy to search for the myriad of other information on this topic.

AND you just want to look cool? about as bright as a black mans arsehole.

I've run a 180 and a 190 on "The King" and didn't notice a huge difference so I'm sticking with what the manufacturer recommends, the 190.

I wonder why the manufacturer recommends a 190? must be cos it looks so fuckin cool.

And by the way. I really am glad that you know lots about black mans arsehole... Have fun dude.

[APPLE]

190 because BIG'' is good......

[Clivoris]

Why? The rim is made to take one OR the other, NOT EITHER.

Unless it's an Aprilia Tuono.

[The_Dover]

Dont give a shit who u r k? didnt ask for your stupid ideas about my avatar , neither my thread.

Do you speak engrish?


Im not gay and i can bet my life on it that i can get better looking girls in a week than you can ever get in your entire life...

I'm sure you can hot stuff, I bet you're the man. You've probably got a huge cock too, right?


And by the way. I really im glad that you know lots about black mans arsehole... Have fun dude.

I am black.

[ShadowNet-Spy21]

Engrish? nah im not chinese. Look dude im not here to argue k? just try to get along.

[oldguy]

Have tried both on my TLs...for road use am happy with the 190..people say the 180 turns in better but i couldnt notice much difference..I have tryed both as well, didn't really notice any dif, but I was told that the firestorm was better suited for the 180 and by putting the 190 on I was over tyring the rear, and could run into trouble with the front tyre losing grip, but then if thats the case would a softer compound front tyre balance that out.

[Big Dog]

My 'Bus Loves my new 190's over my 180's that came with it.
My chicken strips are much wider at this stage (largely because of poor weather x worse health) because the bike has only seen commuting action since purchasing new tyres 250km ago.

At present my strips look hideous to me but then they are barely run in.
On the old 180 they used to impress many much more agressive bikers on much more nimble bikes.
I think I will get them back to about an inch, inch and a half before I am pushing my limits.
Either way not going to happen before I get a chance to hit some twistys.

[Big Dog]

as to 180 or 190 I find it rolls in much sweeter on the 190, 180 was probably faster (not so you would notice) but lacks the finesse.

Going the 190 was based on the recommendation of the bike shop.
Noticable differences:
More grip on a lean.
No matter how far you think you are tipped in there is more to go.
It turns faster off less lean.
More stable when applying the turps.

Everything else I would need a dyno and datalogger to determine any difference at legal speeds.

[Lou Girardin]

There's one basic rule of thumb, if you have chicken strips, bleating about side grip is a tad naff.

[Quasievil]

I was convinced to put 180s on the 999 and did, I regret it now, I dont think it made any difference and I think it probably handled worse as a consequence.
In future for me if the manuafactuer says 190 its 190, thats it

[loosebruce]

Sugilite hit the nail on the head, the 190 is the way to go and is more stable, coming from being slightly slower to turn in (slightly)(most can't even notice the differnce!) and besides you can make a bike turn in fast with a 190 by simply dropping the forks through slightly or riasing rear ride height slightly.
In saying this i know quite a few Aussie supersport guys have been running 190's on 5.5 inch rims, with mixed reports, some swear by it, some hate it!
I run 190/55 atm, have tried 190/60's and 195/70's all good, all with different chararctistics (mainly down to tyre brand) may even be going back to a 190/50 for Nationals!
I wouldn't bother with a 180 on a 6 inch rim, i use a 180 wet but have a 5.5 rim to run it on, modified to fit in the back of the 1000.
And hardley any tyre is ture to the width measurement, tyres off the top of my head, bridgie 014 190 was just over 180mm, dunlop 195 was like 191mm, michelin pilot sport/power were the widest i've measursed up 194mm or something like that and both are good tyres at that.

[The Stranger]

I've run a 180 and a 190 on "The King" and didn't notice a huge difference so I'm sticking with what the manufacturer recommends, the 190.


Had a 190/50 viper on the GSXR, now have a 180/55 M3. Can't say I notice much difference, except when the rear is fully unloaded the tyre just touches the fairing, but hey, I am sure the fairing will get the hell out the way soon.

[The_Dover]

it'll probably fall off if you don't put the bolts back in.....

[The Stranger]

it'll probably fall off if you don't put the bolts back in.....

Less bolts= less weight=goes faster.

[Big Dog]

My 'Bus Loves my new 190's over my 180's that came with it.
My chicken strips are much wider at this stage (largely because of poor weather x worse health) because the bike has only seen commuting action since purchasing new tyres 250km ago.

Oops.... Checked my facts. It seems I need to spend less time with uncle Kracker and more time with aunty Benedryl......

I changed from 190's to 200 / 50 ZR17 Sportmax Dunlop 208's (as reviewed at http://www.insidebikes.com/bikebuys/prodreviews/review_main.asp?offset=10).

and I meant 1250kms.:shutup:

Sorry if this mislead anyone.

[boomer]

...My chicken strips are much wider at this stage (largely because of poor weather x worse health) because the bike has only seen commuting action since purchasing new tyres 250km ago.

At present my strips look hideous to me but then they are barely run in.
On the old 180 they used to impress many much more agressive bikers on much more nimble bikes.
I think I will get them back to about an inch, inch and a half before I am pushing my limits.


...and I meant 1250kms.:shutup:


There's one basic rule of thumb, if you have chicken strips, bleating about side grip is a tad naff.

:yes:


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[boomer]

Less bolts= less weight=goes faster.

you need to go on a diet then fatty :dodge:

[beyond]

I've stuck to the manufacturers recommendations on my two 1400's and have never had a problem. Turn in is just great, handling sweet and side grip is very good running the 190/50

Once scrubbed in (50-75 k's) I have always run every brand I've tried, right to the edge.

On the new 14, the BT020's have been the first front tyre I have run to the edge on the front. Every other brand on my traded in 14 always left 2-4 mm of chicken strip on the front tyre, primarily because at this point, solid bits were touching down hard.

I'll stick to the 190's.

[The Stranger]

you need to go on a diet then fatty :dodge:

I am on the sea food diet.
I see food and eat it.