Are The GSXR1000 K's the new Harley's?

[RiderInBlack]

Seams the be a hell of a lot of them braking down on rides I've been on lately and not because they have been dropped ether. Know of two that have had wire loom shorting problems. 3 broke down on the Norf ride over the weekend. Quickie did his clutch. OK Kevin's died cause the radiator got a hole in it and Can's was due too loosing his fairing nuts due too the ruts on the last section of metal ride to Cape Reinga.
But it looks like the Jinxers will no longer hold the right to hassle HD riders about reliablity.

OK now let the shit fly
:dodge:

[Clivoris]

I'm never able to keep up with the buggers long enough to see them break down....or fly off into the bush.:bye:

[RiderInBlack]

Fu*k, have ya been riding backwards, cause these bikes weren't going anywhere.
Althought the ones on the trailers might have been too fast for ya.

[nsrpaul]

im told new harleys are reliable, still rather have a gsxr tho, even if it did break down

[nsrpaul]

although a r6 or an nsr is preferable to either

[McJim]

an nsr is preferable to either
Ah yes - 2 stroke, the last word in reliability :rofl:

Gixxers will have problems coz the engines are over stressed - just ask The Dover.

[Mr. Peanut]

2 strokes are very reliable. You try making a 4 stroke engine with 250bhp per litre - naturally aspirated, and see how long it lasts.

[McJim]

2 strokes are very reliable. You try making a 4 stroke engine with 250bhp per litre - naturally aspirated, and see how long it lasts.
Stop taking these quips seriously young man. You're spoiling the fun.

[Mr. Peanut]

Stop taking these quips seriously young man. You're spoiling the fun.
Sorry... :mellow:

[Wenier]

2 strokes are very reliable. You try making a 4 stroke engine with 250bhp per litre - naturally aspirated, and see how long it lasts.

Where did ya get ya info for that from??

[Mr. Peanut]

Tuned NSR250 - 65hp

65hp x 4 - 260hp per litre.

[scumdog]

Tuned NSR250 - 65hp

65hp x 4 - 260hp per litre.


For how long/how many km???

[Vagabond]

Where's 'Dover' seems they are the KINGS at the mo!

I think that "Jinxxer" name is gonna last!

[Mr. Peanut]

For how long/how many km???

30000km between top ends.

[Lou Girardin]

If they were Harleys, they'd run forever. All the rentals I've had on the fleet have been damn near bulletproof.
Perhaps you mean, "are Gixxers the new Ducati".

[RiderInBlack]

If they were Harleys, they'd run forever. All the rentals I've had on the fleet have been damn near bulletproof.
Perhaps you mean, "are Gixxers the new Ducati".This is part of the point I'm trying ta get across here. With the number of brake downs dealing mainly with the New GSXR K's, we no long have the right to poke fun at HD's. In fact maybe they should be poking fun at the GSXR's instead.

Is it the greater number of GSXR's out there or are the producers being slack with quality control?

[Cajun]

This is part of the point I'm trying ta get across here. With the number of brake downs dealing mainly with the New GSXR K's, we no long have the right to poke fun at HD's. In fact maybe they should be poking fun at the GSXR's instead.

Is it the greater number of GSXR's out there or are the producers being slack with quality control?

Maybe its the owners lack of mantaince? or way they put the bike back together?

[RiderInBlack]

Maybe its the owners lack of mantaince? or way they put the bike back together?
Kevin's Wire loom problem was a sloppy assembly problem. It was blowing fuses from the day he picked it up. Some of the other problems could be due to trying ta make the bike too light.

[Deano]

Ohhh, stop hassling the poor widdle Gixxers.

Where's Winja's 2 cents ?

[Big Dave]

But it looks like the Jinxers will no longer hold the right to hassle HD riders about reliablity.


Its a compliment then. Because Harley reliability is top notch.

[SimJen]

[FONT=Comic Sans MS][COLOR=royalblue]Seams the be a hell of a lot of them braking down on rides I've been on lately and not because they have been dropped ether. Know of two that have had wire loom shorting problems. 3 broke down on the Norf ride over the weekend. Quickie did his clutch. OK Kevin's died cause the radiator got a hole in it and Can's was due too loosing his fairing nuts due too the ruts on the last section of metal ride to Cape Reinga./

So one had an abused clutch
Another had a holed rad....could happen to any bike (i've never had one holed one in 15+ years)
And finally someone didn't do his fairing bolts up.
Not exactly a definitive list of product failure!
Don't know anything about loom problems, haven't seen anything on the net (gsxr.com/gixxer.com etc) that would indicate a known problem. Could be two isolated cases?
Of all my bikes, different brands etc my gixxers have been the most reliable and they get abused a fair amount.

[Fatjim]

After 50+ years of development they finally got there. Now thats something to be proud of.

[Fatjim]

sorry, did I use the word "development" when refering to HD's? I have slapped my own wrist.

[scumdog]

30000km between top ends.

About the same for me for 'top ends' - only my version of a 'top end' is replacing both spark-plugs!:laugh: :rofl: :whistle: :shutup:

[sAsLEX]

Another had a holed rad....could happen to any bike


Wouldnt happen on my Mighty Honda NC30 as guess what!?

They come with Radiator gaurds not like these modern heaps of shit breaking down in the middle of no where cause of a little itty bitty stone

[Deano]

Another had a holed rad....could happen to any bike (i've never had one holed one in 15+ years)


How do you think they get GSXR's so light ?


About the same for me for 'top ends' - only my version of a 'top end' is replacing both spark-plugs!:laugh: :rofl: :whistle: :shutup:

Hardly comparable - does your HD put out 265HP per litre ?

[Fatjim]

Hardly comparable - does your HD put out 265HP per litre ?

It would have to rev past 350 RPM to get anywhere near that.

[SimJen]

Wouldnt happen on my Mighty Honda NC30 as guess what!?

They come with Radiator gaurds not like these modern heaps of shit breaking down in the middle of no where cause of a little itty bitty stone

Hmmm, my K5 has a rad guard. Doesn't mean it won't get holed though. Depends what hits it and how hard.
The Mighty NC30 would rather blow a rectifier and break down in the middle of nowhere :)
Everything has its problems as nothing is perfect, but a few isolated different cases, does not make something unreliable.

[Back Fire]

apart from a hole in my radiator on my K6 1000 by a stone the size of a marble at 2XXkm/h I have had no problems with either my K6 1000 or my old K5 600... But... saying that I have heard of issues with K5/6 1000 clutches slipping... but I have yet to experience that myself

[Vagabond]

Everything has its problems as nothing is perfect, but a few isolated different cases, does not make something unreliable.

Yeah well iv'e only heard of a few isolated cases of Harleys breaking down!:sick:

[Crasherfromwayback]

About the same for me for 'top ends' - only my version of a 'top end' is replacing both spark-plugs!:laugh: :rofl: :whistle: :shutup:

Yeah but if you ride them hard you'll be needing more than plugs mate don't worry. I had to rebuild the complete top end of my 883 race bike after each national season (6 race meets). Valves, guides, seals and rings.
And they don't do big HP.

[sAsLEX]

Hmmm, my K5 has a rad guard. Doesn't mean it won't get holed though. Depends what hits it and how hard.
The Mighty NC30 would rather blow a rectifier and break down in the middle of nowhere :)


IS THAT standard though?


I mean it is common to hear of modern bikes being stranded with holed radiators , every few big rides has one happen, most new bikes dont have em standard.

And it was a cheap alarm that stranded me not anything honda....

[SimJen]

IS THAT standard though?
I mean it is common to hear of modern bikes being stranded with holed radiators , every few big rides has one happen, most new bikes dont have em standard.

And it was a cheap alarm that stranded me not anything honda....

I don't know, it was already on my bike when I bought it.
Yeah most new bikes don't have em, maybe its a weight savings thing or perhaps the manufacturers make up their losses with the sales of new radiators ;)

I wasn't saying anything personal I didn't know your NC30 broke down. Its just some Honda's have rectifier faults...... :shit:
My NSR needed its rectifier replaced, as did a friends. A very common fault.

[Cajun]

IS THAT standard though?


I mean it is common to hear of modern bikes being stranded with holed radiators , every few big rides has one happen, most new bikes dont have em standard.

And it was a cheap alarm that stranded me not anything honda....

The hole in rad problem can sometimes be traced back to alot of people running ex race tires which in turn pick up stones alot more easlier and throw them at the following bike, or in turn your own radiator.

[SimJen]

Or peeps following too close...

[RiderInBlack]

Yep every bike has it's faults. With my 1991 GSXR250, it was shitty coils. A know problem with those Suzuki's. Answer was replace them with more reliable Quacker or Honda coils. With the CBR it's the Cam Chain adjuster.

[scumdog]

Hardly comparable - does your HD put out 265HP per litre ?

Shee-it no!

Hence the long distance between top end rebuilds.:yes:


Things only need more frequent mechanical attention to cope with more frequent revving and general hammering.......if an engine is grossly understressed and is well maintained it tends to hold together for a long time:yes:

Horses for courses kind of thing.

[sAsLEX]

Things only need more frequent mechanical attention to cope with more frequent revving and general hammering.......if an engine is grossly understressed and is well maintained it tends to hold together for a long time:yes:

True.

But some engines will do 16k all day long no trouble and last a long time as well due to their design having advanced from push rods etc to gear driven cams etc...

[scumdog]

True.

But some engines will do 16k all day long no trouble and last a long time as well due to their design having advanced from push rods etc to gear driven cams etc...

And a generally better balanced and smaller reciprocating mass whirling around inside the engine case helps too!!!

[onearmedbandit]

I love these gixer attacks. It's hard being at the top of the pile, everyone is always trying to knock you off!

[SimJen]

Exactly :)

[Bonez]

I love these gixer attacks. It's hard being at the top of the pile, everyone is always trying to knock you off!All depends on what pile you are talking about. Suzukis have a been loosing parts for years ;).

[_intense_]

Buy a Honda.

//nodds :yes:

[nzkalt61]

Kevin's Wire loom problem was a sloppy assembly problem. It was blowing fuses from the day he picked it up. Some of the other problems could be due to trying ta make the bike too light.
You dont know what the f... you are talking about!!! My bike had problems after the exhaust was changed and the power valve was removed meaning wiring had to be altered in the loom and was probably not put back in the correct possition, I think you need to get your facts right. A number of Honda Blackbirds I have heard of had the top rear shock mount break off, and the sub frame where the pillion footrests attach buckled, and people still bought them. Any one can get a hole in their radiator and if clutches are abused they will fail, no matter what bike you are on.

[nzkalt61]

Buy a Honda.
I could buy a Honda but afta owning a Gixxer K5 Id be concerned about falling asleep while riding it.

[iwilde]

I'm amazed at the number of GSXR1000 on this site. Says alot about the bike if that popular!

[Deano]

I'm amazed at the number of GSXR1000 on this site. Says alot about the bike if that popular!

Baaa baaa baaaa

[The_Dover]

yeah, they're cheap....

[onearmedbandit]

Deano, wrong thread. The one you were wanting is the thread on your partners in Rant or Rave.

[Deano]

I love these gixer attacks. It's hard being at the top of the pile, everyone is always trying to knock you off!

The thing is......it's usually Hondas getting bagged.......so your theory was again ? Haha

[DMNTD]

yeah, they're cheap....
....and plenty of 2nd hand parts strewn about :dodge:

[Deano]

Deano, wrong thread. The one you were wanting is the thread on your partners in Rant or Rave.

Haha...I think you've met Mrs Deano, and she ain't no farm yard animal.

BTW - 'partner' is not allowed to be used now we're married, or so I'm told.

It's WIFE. (Or 'boss' most of the time)

[onearmedbandit]

Yup, I understand that mate...

[RiderInBlack]

You dont know what the f... you are talking about!!! My bike had problems after the exhaust was changed and the power valve was removed meaning wiring had to be altered in the loom and was probably not put back in the correct possition, I think you need to get your facts right.
I stand corrected. Sorry.