Here's one for us old fellas to drool over... [Archive]

xwhatsit

25th October 2006, 16:31

That is so damned sweet. I want one. I imagine I would sound less stupid for wanting one if I actually knew what it was? What model is it?

I'm not an `old fella' but I love older bikes. I just don't happen to know much of anything about any bikes yet lol.

Beautiful.

EDIT: http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Motorbikes/Classic-vintage/photos/a-75076574/p-29166783.htm
1979 Kawasaki Z1RTC
Why do I want it even if I don't understand it? Lol.

Dadpole

25th October 2006, 17:42

And in the drawer beside the PC is a Cycle mag from November 1975 with ...

Dadpole

25th October 2006, 17:46

...and the final two pages. sorry about the large file sizes, but I tried to keep the pages as legible as possible.

crack

25th October 2006, 18:27

There Lies a Truely Sexy Beast.

"Old age and Treachary will overcome youth and skill"

slimjim

25th October 2006, 18:31

well still think thee Rd 350 was one i first loved for sheer thrill of power and speed,then meet a norton with megaphones,, aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah another love affair

Crasherfromwayback

25th October 2006, 19:01

Flicking through Trade me i came across this old beast.....be nice to tuck away in the garage for sunny sundays eh....

Stop it you mean C*nt!
Out of the 50 or so bikes I've owned, my Z1R TC is the ONLY bike I regret to this day selling!! Took it with me to Australia and sold it there. They didn't get them and I was told I was full of shit when I mentioned to my local Kawasaki dealership I had one......"The only turbo bike Kawasaki has ever built mate was the ZX750E1 & 2...." and while they were actually built by American Turbo Pak...they were actually an official Kawasaki, complete with a manual printed by KHI. If anyone here buys it....I have a lot of information (and even the original sales brochure) for one!

terbang

25th October 2006, 19:01

Amazing how things have changed over the years. My older cousin purchased a Z1 in 1975 (fuck that is 31 years ago). At age 15, riding an RD350 myself, I remember drooling over it and trying to imagine what it would be like to ride a bike that had so much HP (all 84 of them) and it handled so well. It seemed to go around corners like it was on rails..! Alas I couldn't afford one. The closest I got to such technology was the smaller brother, the H2 750, a vicious 3 cylinder 2 stroker that managed to chuck me off in a fairly spectacular fashion. To this day my older cousin remains canonised, well in my head anyway, for his exploits of "dragging off cops" (the old MOT boys in HQ Holdens) on that beautiful machine. He binned it, spent some time in hospital and has never ridden a bike since. He turned 50 recently..

My "Old Yella" (82 GSX 1100), a bike I still enjoy today in a quieter way, was a quantum leap on the venerable Z1 though it is not a patch on any of the modern machinery you can get off the shop floor today.

Crasherfromwayback

25th October 2006, 19:08

cool. difficult to ride I would think, but cool

I ended up with 185 rear wheel HP with mine....could run up to 20lbs boost on pump gas with the help of water/methanol injection. Had to install WELL oversized cyl studs as it used to lift the head off due to the stock ones stretching under big boost and blowing even solid copper head gskts ('o' ringed at that) out of it like frisbees!. The fucking thing used to bend in half so badly with that sort of output that it used to change lanes for you when you were game enough to pull the pin!!

I want it back!!!

beyond

25th October 2006, 20:27

I still remember my old RD350 :)

Fastest bike one could buy when they first came out and they handled pretty darned good too, in their day of course.

Managed to get 112 mph (180kmh) out of her on the Takanini straight with my face buried between the dials. That was fast then, but at that speed I still have some gears left today and 180kmh does not seem fast at all anymore. Things have come along way alright.

TLDV8

25th October 2006, 22:03

were you one of the many following the CBX that went for $11900? I thought that was reasonable money to be honest.

An excellent handing motorcycle,turbine smooth to well over 200 kmh..ET's in the 11's...Effortless tourer and scratcher....Owning one at 23 years old,priceless.:scooter:

TLDV8

25th October 2006, 22:19

10 characters including H and 2.

25th October 2006, 22:21

What a beaut collection in that garage! Would be good to see the rest hiding in the background.

scumdog

25th October 2006, 23:13

ONE day I'll get the Xn85 finished and give it a try out - the factory 'claimed' hp on it was 85hp too - but overseas sites claim it's the tip of the ice-berg, lots of potential for more.

HenryDorsetCase

26th October 2006, 09:12

my particular vice is SOHC HOnda 4's. (though my "back in the day" bike, and the one I look at with the rosiest of rose tinted glasses is my ZX750A1 from 1983.) I have only got the 400 at present, but I am following the F1 for sale on tardme at present.

RZ350's and RD350's are such stupid money at present. Sure they arent making any more of them, but they are selling for more than they were new!!

idleidolidyll

27th October 2006, 16:11

Flicking through Trade me i came across this old beast.....be nice to tuck away in the garage for sunny sundays eh....

ha!ha! I remember a mate of mine getting a test ride on a Z1RTC and buggering a car on the NW Motorway doing well over the speed limit.
He was on crutches for 6 months

One day in Waiouru at the Cold Kiwi some dope with a Z1RTC reckoned his whale was faster than my Cagiva Allazura from Westieland to Piha.

What a loser he turned out to be. The Z1RTC was quick in a straight line, obscenely so but it handled like a beached whale

Crasherfromwayback

27th October 2006, 16:58

ha!ha! I remember a mate of mine getting a test ride on a Z1RTC and buggering a car on the NW Motorway doing well over the speed limit.
He was on crutches for 6 months

One day in Waiouru at the Cold Kiwi some dope with a Z1RTC reckoned his whale was faster than my Cagiva Allazura from Westieland to Piha.

What a loser he turned out to be. The Z1RTC was quick in a straight line, obscenely so but it handled like a beached whale

I've owned one....and yes they do. A pregnant whale at that. Fun though.

Mr. Peanut

27th October 2006, 20:51

Hehe, do you REALLY want 103hp??

Innocent times :yes:

Dadpole

27th October 2006, 22:35

Hehe, do you REALLY want 103hp??

Sure sounds tame compared to todays bikes, but combined with those old frames and suspension... :eek5:

JimO

28th October 2006, 06:52

Sure sounds tame compared to todays bikes, but combined with those old frames and suspension... :eek5:

and no brakes and skinny little tyres

Dadpole

28th October 2006, 19:15

and no brakes and skinny little tyres

I still have those

Bonez

29th October 2006, 04:54

I still have those
Same here:

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=27929

Some folk just don't know what they're missing ;)

Skunk

29th October 2006, 11:55

and no brakes and skinny little tyres

I still have those
Same here:http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=27929
Some folk just don't know what they're missing ;)
That's not skinny... Skinny is 110 on the rear or less. :yes:

imdying

29th October 2006, 20:34

The fucking thing used to bend in half so badly with that sort of output that it used to change lanes for you when you were game enough to pull the pin!!

I want it back!!!
Just get a gsxr1000 and hacksaw through one side of the swingarm :lol:

Crasherfromwayback

29th October 2006, 21:48

Just get a gsxr1000 and hacksaw through one side of the swingarm :lol:

lol....not even close mate! You'd also have to fit cable operated front brakes....make the rest of the GSXR's frame outta spagetti, and put lil narrow tyres on it that were made out of plastic. You'd then be getting close!

Ohhh it was fun.

Dadpole

29th October 2006, 23:53

I always loved the cable operated front brakes
They taught you how to corner fast (and the power of prayer)

Ixion

29th October 2006, 23:57

I never had any issues with cable operated 2LS drums. They worked, reliably. Gave better feel than hydraulic disks and stopped quicker from legal type speeds. Only thing they weren't good at was repeated stopping , or stopping from very high speeds (high enough for heat build up to go critical) . But who needs to repeatedly brake hard on the road. And in 40 years I've never had to brake to a standstill from much in excess of 100kph.

35tickets

30th October 2006, 06:52

Flicking through Trade me i came across this old beast.....be nice to tuck away in the garage for sunny sundays eh....

One of these parked in Shaw motorcycles Whangarei just last week. Looks exactly like it

Balding Eagle

1st November 2006, 10:17

My first experience of bike riding was in the early 60's (yeh, I know that dates me) on a BSA Bantam that a mate of mine owned and then my older brother had a Triumph Tiger Cub. Now the Bantam was a two stroke piece of shit (but British shit) but the Tiger Cub had a very distinct sound that I remember to this day. Trolling through a Classic Bikes (UK) magazine I found that there are many restored and available in the UK but the prices would make your eyes water. I saw the spec sheet on the Tiger Super Cub and it put out 10 BHP with a compression ratio around 7.3:1 but it seemed to go like a scalded cat when I was riding pillion with my brother. Aaaahh the memories of your youth. Always greater than reality.:rockon:

Roj

1st November 2006, 10:32

Flicking through Trade me i came across this old beast.....be nice to tuck away in the garage for sunny sundays eh....

Not so much of the old thanks, its not old until it is older than the rider... I have owned my bike for 20 odd years now...

TLDV8

1st November 2006, 10:54

My first experience of bike riding was in the early 60's (yeh, I know that dates me) on a BSA Bantam that a mate of mine owned and then my older brother had a Triumph Tiger Cub. Now the Bantam was a two stroke piece of shit (but British shit) but the Tiger Cub had a very distinct sound that I remember to this day. Trolling through a Classic Bikes (UK) magazine I found that there are many restored and available in the UK but the prices would make your eyes water. I saw the spec sheet on the Tiger Super Cub and it put out 10 BHP but it seemed to go like a scalded cat when I was riding pillion with my brother. Aaaahh the memories of your youth. Always greater than reality.:rockon:

Pretty much all classic bikes are big dollars now.....I was offered a AJS 500 in the mid 80's for $400..fully rebuilt..engine,paint etc plus a spare engine/gearbox..wasn't interested even at that price.
Seem to remember reading the Bantam engine is a DKW thanks to WWII .

inlinefour

1st November 2006, 11:08

Flicking through Trade me i came across this old beast.....be nice to tuck away in the garage for sunny sundays eh....

Looks like the one that was f/s on trademe awhile ago and there was pleanty of people asking about the Honda also. Be awesome to own a beast like that, however I'm somewhat lacking in the funds to purchase such a machine :(

treefrog

1st November 2006, 12:13

Flicking through Trade me i came across this old beast.....be nice to tuck away in the garage for sunny sundays eh....

fucken sexy az m8.

scumdog

1st November 2006, 12:18

fucken sexy az m8.

Hitcher and the Grammar Police needed here - and soon!:eek:

Another wasted education I fear.:weep:

T.W.R

7th November 2006, 11:53

:gob: As of 15mins ago, My Boss purchased this beastie!!!!:Punk: :Punk: :done:
Will keep updated on when it arrives :rockon:

98tls

7th November 2006, 14:20

lucky bugger....

gav

7th November 2006, 18:27

$25K!! nice.....
Actually mate of mine in Nelson bought himself an American muscle car, apparently its pretty rare. Its a '71 Plymouth 'Cuda (not a Barracuda, a 'Cuda, apparently theres a difference) two door coupe, 340 cu in, 4 speed manual, with pistol grip. 80K miles, all matching numbers, original hi impact yellow. Must admit its friggen cool :yes: http://members.fortunecity.com/cars6/340cuda.htm

T.W.R

7th November 2006, 21:02

Yeah spent a bit of time talking to Mark at Shaw cycles yesterday got a good rundown on what the bike was actually like. Compared notes with a guy from Kawasaki NZ and my Boss made the decision to get it.
Transfering the cash tomorrow, then Shaw cycles are transporting it to Auckland & from there it's being Tranported through down to here, hopefully should be in residence by this time next week :yes:

Ha Gav were you watching the Auction ? we decided to draw out the reserve or at least find the within 15% margine but found the reserve quickly. There were a few watching the auction close though.

It's going to be kept as a show bike as such and will be keeping a 500hp XA GT Falcon & a HZ Monaro company as the Boss's private collection.

98tls

8th November 2006, 03:03

good stuff TW....be sure and post up some pics eh...out of interest was he already watching it on trade me before this thread or did you tell him about it..

T.W.R

8th November 2006, 06:33

good stuff TW....be sure and post up some pics eh...out of interest was he already watching it on trade me before this thread or did you tell him about it..

Definately will slam some pics up when it arrives down here :yes:

Myself & the workshop manager keep a good eye on trademe & the morning after it went up we both mentioned it to him and it was all on from there, monitoring the auction to see what activity the bike created. I saw it here before seeing it in trademe:dodge:

gav

8th November 2006, 18:34

Don't suppose he'd have room for one of these? :yes: http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Motorbikes/Classic-vintage/auction-76599969.htm

98tls

8th November 2006, 18:42

:yes: very nice indeed.....if buy some miracle i win lotto in the next couple of weeks will have that....dont fancy my chances but....be interesting to see what it sells for...

Oakie

8th November 2006, 19:11

I had one of those about 25 years ago. It was plastic and about 4 inches long but hey....at least I can say I had one.

Always liked the Z1s / Z1Rs. My favourite bike the old ZIR in 'Ice Blue'. Georgeous! Had a model one of those too.

scumdog

8th November 2006, 19:15

:gob: As of 15mins ago, My Boss purchased this beastie!!!!:Punk: :Punk: :done:
Will keep updated on when it arrives :rockon:

What ferkin' beastie???

I'm frantic waiting to see pics, post some pics!!!!!!!

T.W.R

8th November 2006, 22:08

Don't suppose he'd have room for one of these? :yes: http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Motorbikes/Classic-vintage/auction-76599969.htm

I had one a few years ago :yes: but the 86 mille :love: it was one of only 10 in the country at the time. great bike but typical italian love affair :shutup: spent as much time maintaining it as riding it

I had one of those about 25 years ago. It was plastic and about 4 inches long but hey....at least I can say I had one.

Always liked the Z1s / Z1Rs. My favourite bike the old ZIR in 'Ice Blue'. Georgeous! Had a model one of those too.

Trying to con him into throwing some serious coin at the owner of the Z1R we had at work a month or so back :yes: it would a bloody nice to have both the standard Z1R & the Z1R TC sitting together in the show room. The Z1R would need some work though; original pipe, 19inch front wheel (it had a 18inch conversion) plus some decent TLC

What ferkin' beastie???

I'm frantic waiting to see pics, post some pics!!!!!!!

SD the beastie the thread was started about :gob: the Z1R TC :Punk:

It was brought by the previous owner into the country from a collector in OZ who had got it from the US. According to sources at Kawasaki NZ it's one of three in the country, one is in regular use in Aucks, one is stashed somewhere up north and this one which will be making a new home in Canterbury.

It should arrive at the shop sometime middle of next week, so there'll be a few pics once she's here :done:

Crasherfromwayback

9th November 2006, 10:47

19inch front wheel (it had a 18inch conversion) plus some decent TLC

SD the beastie the thread was started about :gob: the Z1R TC :Punk:

It was brought by the previous owner into the country from a collector in OZ who had got it from the US. According to sources at Kawasaki NZ it's one of three in the country, one is in regular use in Aucks, one is stashed somewhere up north and this one which will be making a new home in Canterbury.

It should arrive at the shop sometime middle of next week, so there'll be a few pics once she's here :done:

Hey there mate.....if your boss wants a copy of the original sales brochure on the TC, I'll sort one for him. Also, having owned/sorted one for years may be able to help him with the 'ins and outs' (they have many!), tell him to PM me or get hold of me here at work (WMCC).

Just as an extra. MK1 Z1R's had 18" front wheels which weren't as nice to ride on as the MK2's 19".

T.W.R

9th November 2006, 17:03

Hey there mate.....if your boss wants a copy of the original sales brochure on the TC, I'll sort one for him. Also, having owned/sorted one for years may be able to help him with the 'ins and outs' (they have many!), tell him to PM me or get hold of me here at work (WMCC).

Thanks for the offer :yes: there are some documents coming with the bike, but what exactly is unknown at the moment. The original Bendix carb is being sent through as well, apparently the Mikuni was fitted to improve the bottom end fickleness and has done wonders to the whole package.

I'll either PM you about the brochure or get Dave to contact you directly at work.
Don't worry about any improvements or tricky bits n pieces for the TC, it's going to be a display bike that's going to be looked after properly :yes: and if he even goes near the wastegate screw with a spanner :spanking: :ar15:

Crasherfromwayback

16th November 2006, 11:48

and if he even goes near the wastegate screw with a spanner :spanking: :ar15:

lol.....yeah they're c*nts of things! The carbon builds up and jams them.
One day all is good....the next it jams and you do a run through the gears and think f*ck this is hauling! Them whammo....bits of broken rings coming out the exhaust pipe after going through the turbo.....20 psi is NOT good on pump gas unless they're 'built' for it!:scooter:

T.W.R

16th November 2006, 16:52

:angry: Well it's in transit somewhere between Auckland & Christchurch :oi-grr: the tweedle dees bringing it through reckon it didn't leave Aucks until Tuesday :bash: they seem as active as a wet week. It better get here in the same condition it left Shaw's.

classic zed

16th November 2006, 20:08

Its surprising, but some of the old bikes with skinny tyres can can handle quite well, my old beastie corners like a dream, and I'm sure surprises some people with its overall performance compared to modern sports bikes.

And if a CBX can get $11,900 I wonder what mine will fetch? Might have to stick it on tard me and see what happens:2thumbsup

Offers anyone?:scooter:

T.W.R

21st November 2006, 17:53

Well ladies & germs :bleh:

It's here!, well arrived late last evening, but it's in our grubby mitts now :2thumbsup .

She's all in one piece & better in the flesh than pictures allow to be seen.
it runs sweet as a nut! and the exhaust note is delicious ( not anti-social loud, but it's crisp & definately serious).

Haven't had time to go over it thoroughly yet, but will be detailing it in the next couple of days (mmm lifes a bitch :banana: ).

Couple of things I noticed though; the cylinder head has APE stamped on each cam tunnel ? APE is a seperate entity to ATP so may have to investigate that further.
And the manufacturing badge :lol: it's beaut, but signed-off 12/78 :yes:
The bloody rear brake master cylinder has popped it's lolly at some stage & there's corrosion around the linkage pin & there's one small seam tear in the seat.
The tank badges are black also in contrast to the usual white lettering.

here's a couple of pics ( off my phone, quality isn't the flashest) I've taken a couple on 35mm so they'll be coming in a while. Or just come & have a nosey in the flesh.

TLDV8

30th November 2006, 11:33

Its surprising, but some of the old bikes with skinny tyres can can handle quite well, my old beastie corners like a dream, and I'm sure surprises some people with its overall performance compared to modern sports bikes.

Spare parts...fwiw

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Motorbikes/Classic-vintage/auction-79612768.htm