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Postie
26th October 2006, 12:52
I got this off the MotoGP.com site.
Where Rossi needs to be in relation to Mr Hayden at the end of Sunday's race if he is to be crowned king again.

placidfemme
26th October 2006, 12:55
Rossis chances look good then...

But what happens if Rossi bins it?

Cibby
26th October 2006, 12:55
it is slightly unreadable..

any chance you can copy and paste?

Postie
26th October 2006, 12:58
if you open the picture and hover the mouse for a second, it should bring up a square in the bottom left. press that and the picture will expand

pritch
26th October 2006, 13:00
On more than one occasion the past where an Italian has been in contention for a title, the other Italian riders have ridden as a team and blocked the other contender(s).

Capirossi himself was a beneficiary of this when he won his 125 crown. Italian riders blocked the Dutch and German opposition.

In another case it was an American who suffered and he is quoted as saying,
"If I'd known it was going to be like that I'd have bought a gun!"

I suspect it is possible that Hayden may have Milandri and Capirossi for company on Sunday. Even closer than his underpants...

roogazza
26th October 2006, 13:29
On more than one occasion the past where an Italian has been in contention for a title, the other Italian riders have ridden as a team and blocked the other contender(s).

I suspect it is possible that Hayden may have Melandri and Capirossi for company on Sunday. Even closer than his underpants...

Cheers, I second that one ! I doubt Rossi will go for a place he loves winning too much ! ( Hayden is the place getter ! )
Hope its dry , with a clean race and a clean win , C'mon VALE !!!!! Gaz.

Nutter34
26th October 2006, 13:46
I'll go with... May the best rider win.

With that though, it has to be Rossi. To be where he is now with not finishing three races due to technical problems, he has proven to be a much better rider. Even if we say he's two races behind now Nicky was taken out, that's still 50 possible points to be had. Then there's Capirossi who got taken out and never finshed and had bad results.... Melandri too, had bad neck/clavicle issues....

Ultimately, the name on the cup means all but if you take the season into account, IMO Nicky ins't the best rider out there...

DEATH_INC.
26th October 2006, 13:54
Much as I hate to admit it I think monkey-boy will do it again, he's easily capable of staying with Hayden........

Deano
26th October 2006, 14:00
Go Hayden, Go 'Team' Repsol.

inlinefour
26th October 2006, 14:15
Good chance that Rossi could bin it or the shytsta Yamaha will crap out. If the Kentucky Kid can make a good start it will be Repsol Honda all the way. :rockon:

pritch
26th October 2006, 14:40
it will be Repsol Honda all the way. :rockon:

John, methinks yer brand loyalty outweighs your good judgement :-)

Deano
26th October 2006, 14:41
John, methinks yer brand loyalty outweighs your good judgement :-)

Better to be loyal than judgemental :msn-wink:

inlinefour
26th October 2006, 14:54
John, methinks yer brand loyalty outweighs your good judgement :-)

I just think he has a chance at winning the race, thats all. Oh wait, I'm off to buy another Honda, making it four... :innocent: but I do have others. I also think the Repsol team is the stronger team, buts thats just my opninion. :)

gav
26th October 2006, 19:43
I just think he has a chance at winning the race, thats all. Oh wait, I'm off to buy another Honda, making it four... :innocent: but I do have others. I also think the Repsol team is the stronger team, buts thats just my opninion. :)
Yeah mate, that Repsol team looked strong last race, even crashing together.....
Rumour has that K14 has even bought himself a tee shirt for the event
http://www.cafepress.com/IHateDani

k14
26th October 2006, 19:46
I also think the Repsol team is the stronger team, buts thats just my opninion. :)
Stronger team???? lol. Maybe stronger cause they'll be beating the shit out of each other after last race. Yamaha has a far stronger team to repsol. They get to do what they think is best to win the championship, not have kamikaze maniacs taking each other out.

sAsLEX
26th October 2006, 20:52
if you open the picture and hover the mouse for a second, it should bring up a square in the bottom left. press that and the picture will expand
pfft get a better browser FF2 ftw


Much as I hate to admit it I think monkey-boy will do it again, he's easily capable of staying with Hayden........

He is more than capable of passing and holding off the American, I doubt that Hayden could hold a pass on Rossi though.


Go Hayden, Go 'Team' Repsol.

Yeah hopefully the little Rooster keeps his head reeled in this race!

pritch
26th October 2006, 21:09
Better to be loyal than judgemental :msn-wink:

Then again to suspend judgement is to suspend intelligence. Mind you there are a lot of people in this country quite happy like that. Good luck!:whistle:

Deano
27th October 2006, 08:50
Then again to suspend judgement is to suspend intelligence. Mind you there are a lot of people in this country quite happy like that. Good luck!:whistle:

Ahh, but who are we to judge ? (my comment related more to the 'judgement' of Pedrosa)

It's racing, anything can happen. Rossi might even do another newbie mistake and take out Milandri again.

Postie
27th October 2006, 09:39
http://www.cafepress.com/IHateDani

thats a bit rough. He makes one HUGE fuck up and the worlds out for his head. He is a good rider and has show some great skill in his first season of MotoGP, I don't want to suck his cock or anything, but he's bloody good for a 21 year old.

NinjaBoy
27th October 2006, 09:58
Much as I hate to admit it I think monkey-boy will do it again, he's easily capable of staying with Hayden........

Yep I have to agree. Hayden will need the ride of his life and his team mate will need to keep between him and Rossi for Hayden to have chance at the Crown.

Hoepfully it will be a close fought battle.

onearmedbandit
27th October 2006, 10:20
thats a bit rough. He makes one HUGE fuck up and the worlds out for his head.


I heard Osama had been dropped to number 2 on the FBI's most wanted list...

Postie
27th October 2006, 13:41
If the race finishes like this again, it will be enough for Rossi

vifferman
27th October 2006, 14:00
Checkit (from MotoGP News (http://www.motogpnews.com)):
"So here we are. The MotoGP fans are excited. The Rossi fans are excited. We're all excited! If excitement and tension could be measured on a thermometer then this week they'd be highly toxic mercury pissing out onto the carpet in homes all around the world.

After 13 operations on Jester, 563 new LCR fairings, 1 career harming Ellison petition, 45 Hopkins court orders and 16 MotoGP races we're here at the last round in Valencia where the 2006 championship title will be decided.
Some say the script couldn't have better. They are wrong of course as a Gurkha invasion and a talking pie would have made the season even more exciting but nether-the-less the 2006 MotoGP championship has been a beaut.

Now some may argue that a few of the races this year have been rubbish - and they'd be correct. Despite all the excitement generated by MotoGP some events have been F1 style dull. But it matters not as every negative aspect of the season, even including the time Foggy showed up at Donington, can be cast to the recycle bins of our memory in readiness for what can only be the single most exciting race in the brief history of MotoGP.

If you need telling the score then you're clearly an incredibly simple person - probably ugly too.
It's Rossi vs Hayden right? Wrong. It's Rossi's gang verse Hayden's gang. And this is where things get spiced up like pepper-spray up the anus.
Rossi's gang consists entirely of Colin Edwards. That's the MotoGP equivalent of having Mother Teresa armed with a fish-finger as a gang member ready to take on an angry New York mob.
Hayden, on the other six fingered hand, has a plethora of hungry young chargers to help him…along with Makoto 'The Rotten' Tamada. And Hayden this time will have the services of a certain little gang member who accidentally stabbed him up the arse with his flick-knife last time out. Pedrosa has publicly apologised for the incident at Estoril and you can bet your bottom wadjel that he'll be a supportive right-hand man to Hayden as any rider could be.

So who'll do it? The instant knee-jerk reaction is to say Rossi - he's leading the championship and has won every MotoGP championship since Honda came up with the four-stroke idea. But will he? Honda has no team orders. Or so they say. They had no team orders last time out and were made to look stupider than a Petronas Superbike, especially as Yamaha, who clearly did have team orders, got the job done. This time out I think it's a fact that all the Honda riders will be supporting Hayden and generally try to beat the crap out of Rossi.
Hayden can't, and never could, win this championship on his own. He needs his 'chums' to back him up - and they will. Will or can they do enough? I don't know. But it'll be tighter than most give it credit for.

Anyway I'm too excited to write anymore. Enjoy. "

sAsLEX
27th October 2006, 14:30
It's Rossi vs Hayden right? Wrong. It's Rossi's gang verse Hayden's gang. And this is where things get spiced up like pepper-spray up the anus.
Rossi's gang consists entirely of Colin Edwards. That's the MotoGP equivalent of having Mother Teresa armed with a fish-finger as a gang member ready to take on an angry New York mob.
Hayden, on the other six fingered hand, has a plethora of hungry young chargers to help him…along with Makoto 'The Rotten' Tamada. And Hayden this time will have the services of a certain little gang member who accidentally stabbed him up the arse with his flick-knife last time out. Pedrosa has publicly apologised for the incident at Estoril and you can bet your bottom wadjel that he'll be a supportive right-hand man to Hayden as any rider could be.


Does he forget the large contingent of Italians in the field, well known for riding to secure an Italian victory? http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showpost.php?p=801206&postcount=5

Dont rate that article really.

Colin didnt confirm to team orders he jsut cant keep the pace of Rossi in that last race, though he did a fuckin marvellous job as tail end charlie for Rossi, and he aint no slouch compared to Hayden so I think he shouldn't be doubted.

vifferman
27th October 2006, 14:37
Dont rate that article really.
Well, duh!! :slap:

Didja check that link? Didja?
It's not exactly a very serious MotoGP site, but usually entertaining. (I thought the bit about "pper spray up the arse" would've been a giveaway).
If you read another article on there by "Randy Mamola", he always places the Murkns in first, second and third places. :lol:
And "King Frog" (aka 'Fogarty') always says they're all crap and that he could beat all of them. And that he never moaned or blamed his tyres, bike or crew if he didn't come first.:rolleyes:

Kendog
27th October 2006, 18:36
This may be a stupid question and I am sure has been asked before

but

Is this race been shown on TV? I can't find it.

Kendog
27th October 2006, 18:39
This may be a stupid question and I am sure has been asked before

but

Is this race been shown on TV? I can't find it.

The answer is here (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=37864)

sAsLEX
27th October 2006, 21:05
<img src=http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=44859&d=116193986>

Ghost Lemur
27th October 2006, 21:19
You bet me to it sAsLEX.

If the race is half as exciting as that practice I can't wait. Seven thousandths of a second between the top three with Rossi on top.

SimJen
27th October 2006, 21:23
Good chance that Rossi could bin it or the shytsta Yamaha will crap out. If the Kentucky Kid can make a good start it will be Repsol Honda all the way. :rockon:

Given Rossi's record for crashing, its highly unlikely he'll bin it. As for the Yamaha crapping out, thats also highly unlikely. The only time it did was a cooling issue, and once in a few seasons is pretty good going. Other problems were tyre related and out of Yamaha's control.
Repsol Honda is a good team for sure, but then all the honda's are better than the Yamaha's: Rossi is the fundamental difference.
Even if the KFC kid can win, Rossi just needs to be behind him.....

sAsLEX
27th October 2006, 21:26
If the race is half as exciting as that practice I can't wait. Seven thousandths of a second between the top three with Rossi on top.

and the little rooster <img src=http://images.cafepress.com/product/81555786v6_150x150_Front_Color-Black.jpg> is out of the way down in 15thish


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WINJA
27th October 2006, 22:36
Go Hayden, Go 'Team' Repsol.

FARK OFF , GO SUZUKI

pritch
28th October 2006, 18:52
FARK OFF , GO SUZUKI

Suzuki could do well... if it rains. I don't know what Valencia's autumn rainfall figures are though.

There is an article on crash.net that says this guy could decide the title.
Funny that!!!

sAsLEX
29th October 2006, 06:27
1 Valentino Rossi Camel Yamaha Team Yamaha YZR-M1 1:31.002
2 Troy Bayliss Ducati Marlboro Team Ducati Desmosedici GP-6 1:31.210
3 Loris Capirossi Ducati Marlboro Team Ducati Desmosedici GP-6 1:31.307
4 Shinya Nakano Kawasaki Racing Team Kawasaki Ninja ZX-RR 1:31.341
5 Nicky Hayden Repsol Honda Team Honda RC211V 1:31.378
6 Dani Pedrosa Repsol Honda Team Honda RC211V 1:31.385
7 Casey Stoner Honda LCR Honda RC211V 1:31.470
8 Chris Vermeulen Rizla Suzuki MotoGP Suzuki GSV-R 1:31.606
9 John Hopkins Rizla Suzuki MotoGP Suzuki GSV-R 1:31.663
10 Colin Edwards Camel Yamaha Team Yamaha YZR-M1 1:31.711
11 Randy De Puniet Kawasaki Racing Team Kawasaki Ninja ZX-RR 1:31.892
12 Marco Melandri Fortuna Honda Honda RC211V 1:32.062
13 Toni Elias Fortuna Honda Honda RC211V 1:32.144
14 Kenny Roberts Jnr. Team Roberts KR211V 1:32.358
15 Makoto Tamada Konica Minolta Honda Honda RC211V 1:32.467
16 Carlos Checa Tech 3 Yamaha Yamaha YZR-M1 1:32.747
17 Alex Hofmann Team D'Antin Pramac Ducati Desmosedici GP-6 1:33.289
18 Jose Luis Cardoso Team D'Antin Pramac Ducati Desmosedici GP-6 1:33.755
19 James Ellison Tech 3 Yamaha Yamaha YZR-M1 1:33.953
20 Garry McCoy Ilmor SRT Ilmor X3 1:34.811

Who predicted that?

Rossi Gal
29th October 2006, 15:27
Go Hayden, Go 'Team' Repsol.

Shhhhhhh!!!!! tis NOT going to happen!!
GOOOO R O S S I ! ! ! !

onearmedbandit
29th October 2006, 16:08
Yup, Sete's not racing and Troy is in his place. Now who is Troy more loyal to? Will he be the cat amongst the pigeons? Only MotoGP race of the season for him, he's got nothing to lose by dicing it up out there.

Ghost Lemur
29th October 2006, 20:49
Damn it. Something's happened to delay the racing by one hour.

The racing now doesn't kick off till 11:00pm with the 125s. The main event isn't until 2:00am. Tis going to be a long night.

Just an FYI too. TV3 mentioned the motoGP race during their sporting coverage tonight, so I'd avoid it like the plague tomorrow as there's a high likelyhood they'll mention spoilers.

NhuanH
29th October 2006, 21:16
Damn it. Something's happened to delay the racing by one hour.
European Daylight Savings ended

inlinefour
31st October 2006, 13:15
Given Rossi's record for crashing, its highly unlikely he'll bin it. As for the Yamaha crapping out, thats also highly unlikely. The only time it did was a cooling issue, and once in a few seasons is pretty good going. Other problems were tyre related and out of Yamaha's control.
Repsol Honda is a good team for sure, but then all the honda's are better than the Yamaha's: Rossi is the fundamental difference.
Even if the KFC kid can win, Rossi just needs to be behind him.....

Just watching the recording on the DVD HDD and what do I see but sparks coming from a Yamaha sliding along the ground with a rider tailing along? Never pays to count anyone out of a championship and to make a contraversal quote "it aint over until the fat lady sings". Whether you like em or hate em, Honda make a good bike...

Awesome to see Rossi getting back up and into it :)

I tend to follow a team and support them win or loose. Bout time Repsol did something about the ghay colours though, even worse is that they put it onto fireblades... (p/t).

Cool to see Baylis in the moto gp, might make things interesting...

Deano
31st October 2006, 13:30
Hahahahahahahahahaha - nuff said.

SimJen
31st October 2006, 15:08
Just watching the recording on the DVD HDD and what do I see but sparks coming from a Yamaha sliding along the ground with a rider tailing along? Never pays to count anyone out of a championship and to make a contraversal quote "it aint over until the fat lady sings". Whether you like em or hate em, Honda make a good bike...

Awesome to see Rossi getting back up and into it :)

I tend to follow a team and support them win or loose. Bout time Repsol did something about the ghay colours though, even worse is that they put it onto fireblades... (p/t).

Cool to see Baylis in the moto gp, might make things interesting...

Yep I was wrong, if I was a betting man I would have put money on Rossi and so would 90% of the motorcycling press etc.
Oh well shit happens and like Rossi said, Nicky is a good guy. Its just a shame that someone who has raced for 4 years and has only had 3 wins is crowned champion.....

fozz rock
31st October 2006, 15:22
Honda[/COLOR] make a good bike...


they make a F%@#*&g great bike

Ivan
1st November 2006, 17:38
Yeah Nicky Hayden world champion that guy deserved it

gav
1st November 2006, 19:05
Yeah Nicky Hayden world champion that guy deserved it
Just wondering if you think there has been a world champion who hasn't deserved it?
Do you think Rossi "deserved" to win the title after his year of crashes, tyre failures, chassis woes, engine failures etc?

Do you know how many laps Troy Bayliss lead in MotoGP this year? He led for all 30 laps in one race. :done:

Now, do you know how many laps Nicky Hayden led in MotoGP this year? :innocent:
















29!! :gob:

SimJen
1st November 2006, 20:47
Yep Rossi deserved to win it for sure. Given the issues he faced and the lead that Nicky lost/Rossi made up in the latter part of the season.
Rossi had 5 wins overall, despite the problems and was still in a position to fight for the title at the end.
Hayden on the other hand had 2 wins out of only 3 (total) in four years of riding the best bike in the paddock.
Jeez, even Nakano deserved the championship more...... :)
Seriously though, Nicky was consistant with a series of podium finishes to his credit and only a couple of cock ups. But noone will remember it unless he wins the next championship under adversity and on an even footing with Rossi.
Problem is next year will possibly be easy for Honda, as they've no doubt got the best 800 and could possibly clean up. But I doubt it will be Hayden doing the cleaning, the new 800 is tiny and more suited to the more slight in stature such as Pedrosa/Melandri etc.

gav
1st November 2006, 20:57
Why are people so sure the Honda is going to have such an advantage? The Ducati looks to already be as fast as the 990's, the Bridgestones are getting better and better all the time. Hell, HRC admitted they couldnt even fix the clutch on Haydens bike, how are they going to get a new bike sorted? :innocent:

SimJen
2nd November 2006, 07:05
People are saying it because Honda are effectively removing 1 piston from their V5 making it a V4. The motor is already very good, so this will shortcut the development process considerably.
2007 is going to be good to watch, thats for sure.