BIKER DOWN -victim of road rage

[_intense_]

So its 0850 an im cruising to work up island bay parade, and this dude pulls out into the maain drag infront of me, i brake -HARD, and void an accident narrowly, cruise up beside the guy whos slowed down, ans say " what the fuck are you doing?!? watch where you're fucking going" and continue on my merry way not thionking anything else of it.

so 7-800 meters up the road im in the right of the lane, slow for a traffic build-up, and he swerves in beside me sorta cutting me off, and shouts "yeah i nearly got ya faggot" to which my reply was get fucked, and he burns off. i took off slowly, got up to the 50 mark feeling shaken as fk, and then hes all anchors, rear sittin up high and im to slow on the brakes, i was gonna toss it rigt, but the oncomming traffic wouldn't have been to healthy.

next thin i hear the crunch as i hit somewhwere on his back right, doin about 40ish? and im seeing ground. The witnesses who got the rego and helped pick me up say i was under my bike. Dont remember that bit. he did the runner but he biys in blue wil get him. best they do rather than a vigilante act id love to see. When its to court i got a lot o witnesses, all saying deliberate act. bikes a mess all cosmetic though, rh fairing, mufflers pretty sweet though, front fender gone, nose fairing messe up headlights etc, rh mirror and brake lever gone.

Gutted, my baby is broken. So once we got the reparations an inssurance sorted, how long does it take to get a bike back in form? would love any feedback on people who've been through the same mess. Four years riding and some cunt decides to take his wanker streak out on me. I allways knew it was cgonna be someoneelse that caused me to off. im far to chicken to ride so hard i force the error myself.

Gonna have a wee cry now, gonna sort out insurance etc tomorrow. bruised an battered.

[lukelin250]

sorry to hear that dude thats brutal,fuck cage drivers you shoulda smashed him

[jtzzr]

Sorry to read about your bin and the damage to your ride, Hope the coplie gets the farkin retard cager cunt,as for the cosmetics can`t help ,SORRY ,Plenty of other people can help though I bet. Ride defensively especially with cocks like him around, good luck

[_intense_]

Ride defensively especially with cocks like him around


yeah man im gutted, im normaly really reserved in town, especially when theres a dodgey c**t, just wasn't awake enough to haul up in time. no speed involved i was just to slow to avoid the Wanker.

[slimjim]

yup real fuck off reading this, almost time to start fitting thee iron pipe to the bike,cause if it's nothing else and you don't have size on your side at least even things up abit, saves fucking talking , smash their screen or sidewindow, fuck them ,

[megageoff76]

Shit mate, it's absolutely shocking that someone would deliberately take a biker out. I can only hope that guy gets what he deserves.

I look forward to seeing your nice bike parked back on Cuba St soon.

[jade]

Gutted man, I feel for you, losing your bike over some fuckwit, hope the cops get him

[terbang]

Jeez what a shambles mate. Glad you are allright and lets hope the cops get him and you can prove he diliberatly did it. Sadly, the way things are around here, if you hit someone up the arse they seem to put the blame on you. So I guess you need your witnesses.

[diggydog]

yeah man im gutted, im normaly really reserved in town, especially when theres a dodgey c**t, just wasn't awake enough to haul up in time. no speed involved i was just to slow to avoid the Wanker.
sorry to hear this, next time this happens pull out your sud gun and hold it long enough to make them realise.:yes: :dodge: :yes:

[Her_C4]

Gonna have a wee cry now, gonna sort out insurance etc tomorrow. bruised an battered.

Totally understand where you are coming from with this one - glad you are only battered and bruised. It could have been worse :shit:

I am gobsmacked :gob: myself over the offensive attitude taken by many cage drivers... road rage is an understatement. They will catch him alright, but what will happen when they do?? A slap over the wrist with a wet bus ticket? I have heard (and seen!) some pretty 'out there' stories lately...

Hope your bike doesn't take toooo much to fix :grouphug:

[onearmedbandit]

Glad to hear you're alright _intense_. What a fucker eh, at least you've got witnesses and his rego. I hope they nail the arsehole to the wall. I've learnt that due to the size of me and my bike, and the size and weight of even the smallest cage it's best for me not to hang around too long. Fuckers that can't drive properly (and who may have an attitude problem) are best as far away from me as possible.

[MattRSK]

Hold your tounge and avoid him next time. :gob:

[jumma]

Gutted to hear that intense. That dude sounds like a complete fuckwit and I hope he's dealt with accordingly. Big ups to the people who actually stuck around and got his rego, which was ......?

[_intense_]

Gutted to hear that intense. That dude sounds like a complete fuckwit and I hope he's dealt with accordingly. Big ups to the people who actually stuck around and got his rego, which was ......?

> OY5681 -light metalic blueygrey old 4door lancer thing. (with a cbr shaped hole in the back left corner) watch out for these c***s and if you do see im put a brick in his windscreen 4 me :2guns: but seriously hel get done, at very leats for leaving the scene of the "accident" (read -crime) man i reccomend you never try to do a diy panel job on your fuel tank with your own nuts as the mallet.... *ouch* :dodge:

[MSTRS]

That sucks. Related to the prick that had a go at hXc, maybe? Glad you got witnesses - normally running into someone from behind is automatically 'your' fault. Guy should be charged with "Assault with a deadly weapon"

[riffer]

Exactly. For the purposes of the greater public good, I think his rego should be published.

[Bulldog]

Tell you what. Send me his rego and I'll go pay him a visit :spanking:

I know what to do to karnts like that.

[xwhatsit]

He did post the rego, if you'll read his post properly lol.

Very sorry to hear that happened mate. Some people just seem to have too much testosterone for their small brains to handle. Hopefully the police can be more effective than they were in hXc's case -- then again, like you said, he'll get done for Leaving the Scene regardless.

Hope you're not too badly bruised. Here's hoping your back on the road ASAP.

[Paul in NZ]

Jesus - that sucks mate...

Let the Police handle it first. Mate - don't take this the wrong way OK but seriously you are taking your life in your hands communicating your displeasure at these idiots and you are at a disadvantage on the bike.... Some days ya gotta walk away from these P'd up idiots. After all, you may be in the right but you could be in hospital too... Not worth the agro..

(easy to say not easy to do I know)

Hope it works out for you and if you need a hand with the bike let us know eh?

Paul N

[Steam]

The "justice" system doesn't seem to be in the real world these days.
They'll find the guy if the car isn't stolen, but then lawyers get involved and judges, and he'll end up getting 100 hours community service, and have to pay for 10% of the bike repair at $5 per week.
It's nuts. And let's not even get started on violent crimes!
The police do as much as they can, limited by law and evidence and manpower, and I don't have too much bad to say about them.

But I'm glad nothing like this ever happens to me, because I will lose it. I'm not that self-controlled or forgiving. I will commit acts of retribution, I will be the number 1 suspect for the firebombing of the wanker's house. I probably will get caught.
There's no justice beyond what you create for yourself.
I hereby call for careful and planned vigilante justice to become widespread and accepted.
If the justice system doesn't provide justice, the citizen must.
Oooh, that sounds like Franklin or someone else cool and historic.

[Mole_C]

That sucks man, good luck with getting her all prettied up. Press as many charges against him as you can and ask about things like assault with intent to cause harm or whatever you can think of. Try get his ass in jail or at least off the street. Let us know what the cops do and if its not sufficient then we can go give him a spanking :spanking:

[_intense_]

Jesus - that sucks mate...

Let the Police handle it first. Mate - don't take this the wrong way OK but seriously you are taking your life in your hands communicating your displeasure at these idiots and you are at a disadvantage on the bike.... Some days ya gotta walk away from these P'd up idiots. After all, you may be in the right but you could be in hospital too... Not worth the agro..

(easy to say not easy to do I know)

Hope it works out for you and if you need a hand with the bike let us know eh?

Paul N

thankyou for wise words, i know i should have just put up, gone a different way, but it just ticks me of man, every one here has had a similar story im sure, so i guess im the unlucky one where the roadrage clown actualy goes to violent means. Thats a bitter pill to swallow, i hope i can learn from it.

AND I HOPE THAT JUST ONE PERSON READING CAN AVOID A C**T LIKE THIS.
just get the fk away from idiots. :mellow: oh if anyone knows of a good place to source fairings, get paint done, get chasis checked out (felt fine riding hope with police escort..) im open to all recommendations for welly hookups.

[_intense_]

Massive thankyou to constable McKenzie and his partner who attended the scene, they were so helpful, escorted me home to a safe park, took me to a&e and saw me safe. Very thorough and very reasuring with everything. -THANK YOU VERY MUCH!

*and cheers for understanding the loss of my pride and joy and consequently not hassling me about my upset "oh f***" language! *blushes*

[Meanie]

That sucks dude
dont get mad get even
youll eventualy find out who he is and where he lives :yes:

[hellnback]

Mate - don't take this the wrong way OK but seriously you are taking your life in your hands communicating your displeasure at these idiots and you are at a disadvantage on the bike.... Some days ya gotta walk away from these P'd up idiots. After all, you may be in the right but you could be in hospital too... Not worth the agro..
Paul N

Hear what you're saying there, the missis got followed home by some fucked up cunt after she gave him the fingers, he pushed her up against the car but she held her own (thank fuck)....
only thing is once some cage cuts you off/doesn't see you etc. etc. it gets pretty bloody hard not to get all agro!!

Anyway good luck with the insurance and shit, these things normally work themselves out in the end.

[topher]

Hold your tounge and avoid him next time. :gob:

Yeah, gotta agree on this. While on your bike, no matter how right you are, you're still at a dangerous disadvantage. It goes completely against my competitive, combative grain but the situation remains; in a bike vs car hit there's only going to be one loser.

[yungatart]

Sorry to hear about your "incident". Lets hope you get more justice than hXc did. By the way, there is NO such crime as road rage - it is assault. Make sure it is treated as such by the police.
Good luck and good wishes for a speedy recovery, for both you and your bike.

[Her_C4]

...... oh if anyone knows of a good place to source fairings, get paint done, get chasis checked out (felt fine riding hope with police escort..) im open to all recommendations for welly hookups.

I just happen to know where you can get hold of some CBR F4i right hand side and tail section transfers at a good price if you are interested... PM me :sunny:

[Clivoris]

Shitty deal man. Good luck with the repairs and I hope five-o can nail his ass.

[Colapop]

Gimme a call if you need a hand...

[beyond]

Well, that makes me really angry hearing crap like this :angry: :angry: :angry:

It's real bad when someone else makes an error but then when you point it out, having them trying to do you in as well. :shit:

It's happening way to often and it's getting worse. Man, they even chase you down when you toot your horn in the car and it's not even your fault.

Just imagine if these eggs had access to handguns :(

Glad to hear you came out in one peice but your poor bike. :(

[Mole_C]

[269.Intentional damage—

(1)Every one is liable to imprisonment for a term not exceeding 10 years who intentionally or recklessly destroys or damages any property if he or she knows or ought to know that danger to life is likely to result.

193.Assault with intent to injure—


Every one is liable to imprisonment for a term not exceeding 3 years who, with intent to injure any one, assaults any person.


There you go. Ask the police if you can charge him with Intentional damage to property with knowledge that danger to life is likely to occur and try get him away for 10 years :yes:

[kiwifruit]

thats shocking! :( :mad:

[apteryx_haasti]

Mate - that sucks. I had a gander at your profile picture - your baby was so pretty (in a manly kind of way, of course).

I hope it gets sorted with no hassles. All the best.

A_H

[Drum]

Sympathies mate. I would've acted as you did, wether its the right thing or not.

Heres hoping the insurance bods come through for you.

[Kinje]

thankyou for wise words, i know i should have just put up, gone a different way, but it just ticks me of man, every one here has had a similar story im sure, so i guess im the unlucky one where the roadrage clown actualy goes to violent means. Thats a bitter pill to swallow, i hope i can learn from it.

AND I HOPE THAT JUST ONE PERSON READING CAN AVOID A C**T LIKE THIS.
just get the fk away from idiots. :mellow:

This sucks bro. Makes ya feel sick to hear this sort of crap. These c**ts need all the space in the world. Back the f**k away and watch as they screw themselves up, hopefully the next time he does this its a f**king big truck he cuts in front of.

(you'll know this one _intense_)


'cause I need to watch things die
From a distance

Vicariously I, live while the whole world dies
Much better you than I

Man i hope the cops track this guy down...and when they do i hope they destroy something he loves

Hope to see your lovely black baby back on the road soon

[Skyryder]

Hold your tounge and avoid him next time. :gob:

Words of wisdom Intense. If this fucker realy wanted to take you out is 'the' incident realy worth losing your life over or being permently crippled. Have not read all the posts so others may have expressed the same sentiment. If you are going to give a cage lip make sure they can not get at you further up the road.

I get the feeling that you already know this shit. If not then go to bed and memorize this.


STAY SHARP, STAY COOL AND STAY ALIVE.

Skyryder

[heyjoe]

Hey Intense,
Sorry to hear about your incident with that nutcase. Glad you are okay.
I wish you the best of luck in seeing a successful proscecution of some substance for him. Failing that, I hope he crosses someone one day that is more of a crazy than he is.

[Rhino]

Here are a few suggestions for dealing with tossers like the one you encountered;

1. Don't antagonise the cretin, just get his rego
2. Go to the local post shop and find his details
3. Visit his address late at night and if the vehicle is outside try the following;

3a) Slowly let all four tyres down
3b) Force open the fuel cap and carefully pour 500gm of sugar into the fuel tank.
3c) Pour 1 litre+ of brake fluid over the bonnet, roof and boot
3d) Leave discretely

[crack]

Hey Intense, Glad to hear you are OKAY:

Matey I believe in retribution:

In 1976 In NP I had a English Lady, pull out from being parked half on road, half on footpath (Parked heading the same way I was travelling) I had my Head light on, she looked right at me, hesitated, I thought okay safe, then as I was getting almost to where she was, what did she do, a U Turn, My Cb , mashed into the side of her Morris Marina, Shot across the car, got up, picked my bike up, she gets out and appologises, crying and all, askes me to please not call the Police, ( MOT), says she will pay for everything, come back after 6pm when her husband is home: so I use her phone, call my Dad who comes to get me with the trailer:
Fathers advice is to call the MOT, I felt sorry for her, and didn't.

6pm I drove Dads car to see her husband, got no further than the front door, the sod abused me, said I was speeding and how sick he was of us bikers using Mill Road as a race track.

Said it was my word against his wifes, ( I never Saw her), and he told me in a really unpleasent way where to go and actually shut the front door in my face.

Man was I pissed, to go home to "Dad" saying I told you so??.

Some time later I saw the car parked there again, all freshly panel beated, and painted>

I had to save the $150.00 to fix my bike.

So lets just say I got even one night.

Get Mad, Then get F---ing even mate.

A word of advice, remember the condition your bike was In momentarily prior to the accident, remember this, If the Insurance company comes at you to settle for anything less, spend the $250, with a Lawyer, stating your intention to SUE for damages over and above what the Insurance company want you to accept, send this letter to the Perpetrator, and to the Insurance company.

Then sit back, you won't have to wait too long.
And get your $250 back as an addition to the claim, plus any in-convenience.

Take care and all the best.

[Marmoot]

...

Gonna have a wee cry now, gonna sort out insurance etc tomorrow. bruised an battered.

Don't be such an idiot n cry.

You're lucky it was someone else, with Rego that you have, n witnesses, n insurance.
Bike might be written off, but that'll be real luck.
You gonna get new bike, not loose any no claim bonus, n u might get the excess payment back from the guy if he ever gets caught.
What could be better? New bike for Free!

There, I hope that helps comfort?

Btw, if insurance repair ur bike, might take about 1 month normally. I've done it twice (riders' fault)

[Shaun]

Sound.s like you found the ultimate loony!


next thin i hear the crunch as i hit somewhwere on his back right, doin about 40ish? and im seeing ground. The witnesses who got the rego and helped pick me up say i was under my bike. Dont remember that bit. he did the runner but he biys in blue wil get him. best they do rather than a vigilante act id love to see. When its to court i got a lot o witnesses, all saying deliberate act. bikes a mess all cosmetic though, rh fairing, mufflers pretty sweet though, front fender gone, nose fairing messe up headlights etc, rh mirror and brake lever gone.


Does the fact that You hit him not he you not put you in the wrong? Hope not for your sake mate, that would suck

[Edbear]

Hey Intense,Sorry to hear about your incident with that nutcase.




Mmmmm! Now, are you referring to his injury, or the car driver...?:innocent:

[BNZ]

Hold your tounge and avoid him next time. :gob:

Or get off and deal to his car

[dnos]

Fuck that is scary, glad your not too banged up.
and it seems that he pulled out in front of you in the first case with the hope he might hit you - BEFORE you even yelled at him.
bloody hell - what a angry wee man

[Paul in NZ]

Phew - that was lucky - I went to bed last night and thought - oh - I hope no one takes that the wrong way - but I should have known better.

One thing to remember is that the idiot is probably much more experienced in matters of random violence and you are all pumped up after the fright and are acting on instinct. While you are on your bike and he is in his car he has ALL the advantage and will not hesitate to use it. Most folks on the forum are decent people and despite the posturing not the type to randomly mess people up so a lot of the tooting and 'fuck yous' etc is pretty much bluff and posturing (it's 100% a natural reaction designed to avoid violence).

At the time of the incident these guys have the advantage and they know it. If they can end it by a sneaky low blow or a sudden swerve they will do it and all you can do untill the odds come back in your favour is stay out of range.

Try to avoid talking to them or pointing out what they did wrong - it won't make any difference except to make you vunerable to attack from them. Write down their details and grab a witness is the most effective thing.

Unless you are an advanced cyborg able to ride a HD like a trail bike one handed and armed with a cool twirling shotgun that you can shoot with your other hand OR and undercover super hero with an actual cape stay the hell away from cars. The bloody things are dangerous enough when driven by 'normal' people

[Postie]

Sadly, the way things are around here, if you hit someone up the arse they seem to put the blame on you. So I guess you need your witnesses.


Possibly true, but the fact that the car driver left the scene of an accident is worse, specially since he must have known that the accident may have casued injury.

Sorry to hear about this Intense, I wish for nothing but pain, suffering and misery for the piece of shit that did this.

[Pex Adams]

Intense, At least your safe and well, thats the main thing- it could have been a hell of a lot worse.

Have you heard yet whether they have caught the prick yet???

[Deano]

The owners details should be here soon.........for anyone with a mind to point out the error of his ways.....

[Forest]

I just want to remind folks that the registered owner of a vehicle isn't necessarily connected to the driver.

Especially if the vehicle has been borrowed, or the car (or plates) are stolen, or a change of registration hasn't been entered etc etc.

Don't do anything until you know all of the facts.

[MD]

Does the fact that You hit him not he you not put you in the wrong? Hope not for your sake mate, that would suck

This may be your problem Intense. Although it seems unfair, I can understand the logic. If you run into the back of the vehicle in front IRRESPECTIVE of why they slow/stop then YOU are at fault for not following at a safe distance that would allow you to stop in time. Your insurance may well play this card.
He left the scene of an accident without checking injured or offering assistance/aid so he should be up for a serious charge there.
Good luck and welcome to Wgtn - city of pricks behind cars

[Deano]

I just want to remind folks that the registered owner of a vehicle isn't necessarily connected to the driver.

Especially if the vehicle has been borrowed, or the car (or plates) are stolen, or a change of registration hasn't been entered etc etc.

Don't do anything until you know all of the facts.

Good idea - It's easy enough to check the culprit vehicle is in the driveway of the registered owner first, or ring him to confirm before torching the car.

[Fatjim]

H
3a) Slowly let all four tyres down
3b) Force open the fuel cap and carefully pour 500gm of sugar into the fuel tank.
3c) Pour 1 litre+ of brake fluid over the bonnet, roof and boot
3d) Leave discretely

do us all a favour and engrave "don't fuck with motorcyclists" on the drivers door. Oh, and piss down the aircon vents.

[Deano]

Oh, and piss down the aircon vents.

That or fish oil/dead fish.......

[Pex Adams]

do us all a favour and engrave "don't fuck with motorcyclists" on the drivers door. Oh, and piss down the aircon vents.

Or in your case Fatjim, you could just empty your Colostomy bag down the vents!

[gijoe1313]

:gob: I'm glad to hear you are relatively okay - everything thats important is intact! I understand the loony side of how a situation can go pear shaped pretty quick, hope everything settles in your favour and you get back to riding ASAP!

:sick: Always bad to hear of situations as you found yourself in (brings back bad memories of my one!)

Ah well, long as you learn and live to learn from it I guess! :mellow:

[Bloody Mad Woman (BMW)]

yup real fuck off reading this, almost time to start fitting thee iron pipe to the bike,cause if it's nothing else and you don't have size on your side at least even things up abit, saves fucking talking , smash their screen or sidewindow, fuck them ,

Agree slimjim. I have often wanted a gun that spits out ballbearings - having it mounted on handlebars (if no visor). The more I read about the lack of our justice system the more I am starting to believe to take it into your own hands - just don't get caught!!

Well it has taken 2 months to wrangle with the insurance company - now I am about to suss out parts to fix the bike!!

Hope you have recovered from the shock!

[NinjaNanna]

Seek a legal opinion BEFORE making your insurance claim!!!!

Whilst your reactions make perfect sense to all of the insurance compan may take a different view of it.

My advice pay to speak to a lawyer before submitting your claim, last thing you need is to have it rejected due to some stupid technicality.

[Mole_C]

The owners details should be here soon.........for anyone with a mind to point out the error of his ways.....

Fill all his locks with glue :yes: Would be especially good if he parks outside and cant get into his car or back into his house. Make the bastard catch the bus :Punk:

[Deano]

Blue Lancia Prisma Saloon
OY5681

Vincent Verberkt, 85 - 559 Adelaide Road Berhampore, Wellington

["D" FZ1]

What a tossa. Hope he gets what is coming to him.

[heyjoe]

Mmmmm! Now, are you referring to his injury, or the car driver...?:innocent:

I was meaning that I was sorry to hear of the events that occured to him (victim of road rage & bullying & forced bin) and I was calling the guy who was driving the vehicle ("...grey/blue Lancer thing...") a nutcase (meaning idiot, wanker, crazy, stupid, etc).

I wasn't talking about the writer (Intense) using his nuts to do a DIY panel job on his fuel tank. He has had enough flak for one day and besides, I don't know him well enough to talk about his nuts! haha

[MattRSK]

Or get off and deal to his car

FUCKEN A i would really want to do that. But in reality I cant be fucked with all the bullshit that you have to go through.

[Wasp27]

Bugger Dude! Lucky you survived to tell us. Cheers W

[Kendog]

That or fish oil/dead fish.......

Been there done that, funny thing is the guy we did it to ended up writing his car off about a week later. I guess the smell of fish festering in his air vents over a week of 30 degree days in Gisborne got the better of him.
Mrs KD.

[rok-the-boat]

Mental note : OY5681 -light metalic blueygrey old 4door lancer thing ...

[inlinefour]

Hold your tounge and avoid him next time. :gob:

thats exatly what I was thinking also... :done:

[Lord Derosso]

So its 0850 an im cruising to work up island bay parade, and this dude pulls out into the maain drag infront of me, i brake -HARD, and void an accident narrowly.

Glad you're OK intense. Sounds from what you have said that he was coming out of his driveway on the righthand side of the road just over the hill from the Berhampore pub?? I live just around the corner down pass the turnoff to Waripori street so its in my interests to know exactly where this happened.

Not so much because of this anally challenged twit, because if you dont realise it yet they are ALL out to get you, but because its possibly a hazardous area and I survive by making mental notes of such places. The GSX is gold and the lights are auto on at all times and I have noticed that I have fewer events such as these as opposed to say when riding my old SR500 single which was very black and narrow. My main problem is trying to avoid been side swiped by sportie types around the city. I check my mirrors, indicate for 2 seconds and then they decide to put their foot down to stop me from changing lanes. Women drivers in a certain German car... several times lately and one nearly got me too. Biker Murdering Women . Not to say it cant be Bloody Male Wan*ers too I suppose for the ladies members.

Can you update us all if/when you find out whats happening with the hit and run please?. I presume its classed as such?

[Macktheknife]

Jeez dude that sucks, while my instinct is to recommend the 'hunt n kill' option, my brain tells me you need to go through the legal system and try to have it addressed this way. If that doesn't work, then there are other options.
I'm really glad to hear that you are basically ok, and the bike is fixable, good on the coppers for looking after you too.
Please keep us informed of the ongoing events.

[Ixion]

Mental note : OY5681 -light metalic blueygrey old 4door lancer thing ...

Not a Lancer . A Lancia. Italian. rare. Should stand out like a dogs wozzanames.

[ZeroIndex]

sorry to hear that dude, hope you heal up, and that they catch the bastard and make him pay for the repairs on your bike..

[Korea]

*sigh* here we go again...

Firstly, sorry to hear of your misfortune Intense ~ nobody deserves that kind of treatment, and to have your pride and joy smashed like this is just... WRONG!

And now for my rant:
As motorcyclists we are vulnerable and at the mercy of cars - YOU are responsible to keep yourself out of danger. Sometimes we can't - the other vehicles are too ingenious; you can't help that, but do your best to anticipate emergencies.

This means anticipate arseholes who try to knock you off your bike~ cars are always going to pull out in front of bikes - always have and always will. It's not cool, but learn to anticipate it.
Also learn to anticipate your emotions of shock, anger, and hatred that will come after the fact and BITE YOUR LIP! Mouthing off is only going to exacerbate the situation and guess who will come off worse if it escalates?
(Take the reg. etc if you have to and follow the better advice posted here)

Meanwhile, to all vigilantes out there: Firstly, one revenge only begets another revenge - if we go out meting justice on this car driver (and lord knows he's got it coming) do you really believe he will see the error of his ways?
Driver: "Oh my goodness, a rider scratched 'don't f**k with bikers' in my door - OH HOW WRONG I HAVE BEEN!!!" Yeah right.
No. He is going to go on a revenge rampage - if not against you, against another innocent rider. And so the problem escalates and more car drivers will ram riders off the road.

I've said before, a lot of shite gets mouthed-off on KB and maybe those people don't really behave like that. Maybe they're not serious when they make suggestions about vandalising other people's property - but there are a lot of impressionable young riders on KB who may take it seriously.

Sorry again for your misfortune Intense, and 'wise up' to our sprightly young KBers.

/rant over~!

[Ixion]

Trouble is, everytime some dickbrain thinks its a great giggle to pull out in front of a biker (cut him off, ram him , etc) and the biker bites his lip, shrugs , and carries on, that simply validates dick brain in his attitude.

Such people are bullys. Ignoring their bullying doesn't make them give up. They KNOW they scared the shit out of you . They KNOW you're hurt. They KNOW your bike is smashed. They think that's real funny. And now they see that bikers are too scared to object to such treatment. Easy targets. So the next biker he sees, he's going to pull the same "joke".Or maybe even a better one. Like, man, this was sooo way cool, the biker faggot's actually DEAD.

And sooner or later one of those bikers isn't going to get up, to bite lip and shrug.

So, for the "ignore it and move on" folk - what ELSE are you going to do? Ignore it means endorsing such behaviour as acceptable. And that means more and more of it. Get his rego ? Oh, yeah wheee. And what are you going to do with it? Report it to the police ? They'll laugh in your face.

I don't have a good answer. Except maybe that there's security in numbers.

[Street Gerbil]

Went to mitre10 the other day. Absentmindedly picked up a small axe and then my wife said "this will look great on your new bike"... Can't think of a better tool to combat road rage.
P.S. In USA the driver would have faced up to a quarter century for assault with the deadly weapon + fleeing the scene of the accident. May be local law enforcement will at least get their bus tickets wet?

[bounce]

Hey intense, sympathies mate, that really sucks. so what street did he come charging out of? (I'm in the bay as well)

[fliplid]

Sympathies! There's always some t#sser out to ruin someones day for whatever reason! Hope you get over it quick bud.

[Fatjim]

Blue Lancia Prisma Saloon
OY5681

Vincent Verberkt, 85 - 559 Adelaide Road Berhampore, Wellington

He's 85? Not bad for an old tosser, almost worth patting him on the back!

BTW, here's a pic for visual reference.

[Sniper]

Sorry to hear mate, you heal up soon

[Insanity_rules]

Mondo sympathy dude, I got monstered in Lower Hutt not long after I bought my bike. Makes you feel like shit huh?

I think since we are much more vunerable we should be given legal right to carry out corporal punnishment on drivers like that!

[Madness]

Not good to hear, I have admired that bike as I passed Cuba Street going down Ghuznee several times. I would err on the side of caution & check your legal position before making an insurance claim, following at a distance too short to stop etc etc. Sometimes (98%) the law is an ASS.

[KLOWN]

Well, whats happening?? anymore details? Is it going to go to court? If it does go to cort PLEASE post up the date and time its gonna happen. I for one will be there to have words with him! I'm getting really sick of this shit!!

[NinjaNanna]

Well, whats happening?? anymore details? Is it going to go to court? If it does go to cort PLEASE post up the date and time its gonna happen. I for one will be there to have words with him! I'm getting really sick of this shit!!


The most sensible suggestion I've heard yet. If this does go to court then I doubt the Judge will hand out a slap on the wrist if there is a large group of well presented bikers holding helmets expressing their disgust with this gentlemen.

I'm sure something like this would also attract media attention with minimal organisation, Intense you just need to ensure you keep people up to date.

[Odin]

Hope all bruises are healing and that your bike will be revived to full health and former glory.

I got taken down a few months ago now on my Kawasaki GPX600 by a guy pulling out in front of me. He was good about it and his insurance paid all. My bike was totalled but I managed to "jump off" before the impact and did not suffer. But what a hassle to get the bike taken away, insurance estimates and wheeling and dealing and 6 weeks later you get a check. But then I had to replace the bike and the bike marked was high as nice weather was on the way and fuel prices high. I am though happy with my gsx600f.

So.... Good luck and may it all go smoothly with the insurance. I hope he gets his day in court and PLEAASE keep us up to date with developments.

[phoenixgtr]

I understand all of this "put up and shut up" business and that we're in a vulnerable position on a bike, but that doesn't give anyone the right to do sh#t like this. It's absolutely disgusting.

I hope you have better luck getting your wanker charged than I did. Good luck with getting your bike fixed too. It's a frustrating process

[terbang]

So, for the "ignore it and move on" folk - what ELSE are you going to do? Ignore it means endorsing such behaviour as acceptable. And that means more and more of it. Get his rego ? Oh, yeah wheee. And what are you going to do with it? Report it to the police ? They'll laugh in your face.



An old quote goes something like this: 'Revenge is a meal best eaten cold'.
In other words let the dust settle and if the law is a wimp then, can of petrol, late night visit, matches and OY5681 is gone for good.

[paketa]

Very sad to hear it mate, hopefully your story will help others to avoid similar situations.


Sorry to hear about your bike, CBR f4 is my favourite one and just hearing of it been crashed makes my heart bleed:(

[Bend-it]

Yeah, sorry about what happened... do keep us in the loop... Would be happy to make an appearance in court for the support.

[KATWYN]

So its 0850 an im cruising to work up island bay parade, and this dude pulls out into the maain drag infront of me, i brake -HARD, and void an accident narrowly, cruise up beside the guy whos slowed down, ans say " what the fuck are you doing?!? watch where you're fucking going" and continue on my merry way not thionking anything else of it.

so 7-800 meters up the road im in the right of the lane, slow for a traffic build-up, and he swerves in beside me sorta cutting me off, and shouts "yeah i nearly got ya faggot" to which my reply was get fucked, and he burns off. i took off slowly, got up to the 50 mark feeling shaken as fk, and then hes all anchors, rear sittin up high and im to slow on the brakes, i was gonna toss it rigt, but the oncomming traffic wouldn't have been to healthy.

next thin i hear the crunch as i hit somewhwere on his back right, doin about 40ish? and im seeing ground. The witnesses who got the rego and helped pick me up say i was under my bike. Dont remember that bit. he did the runner but he biys in blue wil get him. best they do rather than a vigilante act id love to see. When its to court i got a lot o witnesses, all saying deliberate act. bikes a mess all cosmetic though, rh fairing, mufflers pretty sweet though, front fender gone, nose fairing messe up headlights etc, rh mirror and brake lever gone.

Gutted, my baby is broken. So once we got the reparations an inssurance sorted, how long does it take to get a bike back in form? would love any feedback on people who've been through the same mess. Four years riding and some cunt decides to take his wanker streak out on me. I allways knew it was cgonna be someoneelse that caused me to off. im far to chicken to ride so hard i force the error myself.

Gonna have a wee cry now, gonna sort out insurance etc tomorrow. bruised an battered.

Bummer. Theres some scary people out there. I recently had to report one to the police, pretty much did the same thing - swerved over to try and hit me then drove in front of me and slammed his brakes on in the middle of a major intersection ( im in the car). Reason 4 his road rage :was I was doing 100kmph on the motorway, he was tailgating me trying to get me to go faster ...but I wouldn't....then when he came up to me on the off ramp I mouthed abuse and gave the guy the fingers etc....well.....I will never do that again. It triggered a response which turned him into a road rage maniac

The police said there are a few of these sorts of people around.

My lesson....just ignore....hard as it is. But worse on a bike as we are more vulnerable to these neanderthals

[ManDownUnder]

Yeah, sorry about what happened... do keep us in the loop... Would be happy to make an appearance in court for the support.

Be bloody funny if his insurer found out what happened and refused to pay out ... I hope his car is as fucked up as his attitude...

[Bend-it]

Reason 4 his road rage :was I was doing 100kmph on the motorway, he was tailgating me trying to get me to go faster ...but I wouldn't....then when he came up to me on the off ramp I mouthed abuse and gave the guy the fingers etc....well.....I will never do that again. It triggered a response which turned him into a road rage maniac


Was there more than 1 lane? and were you on the right lane?

Not that it justifies the road rage, however, I've come up behind a fair few people doing 100 or even under on the motorway (more than 1 lane), who've refused to budge, both in a cage and on the bike. I usually just switch to the left lane, then later switch back to the right lane (not passing). But really, would it so difficult moving over when someone driving / riding faster is coming up behind them? Lots of people seem to manage it fine, just some who have a misplaced sense of justice or something...

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[Drunken Monkey]

An old quote goes something like this: 'Revenge is a meal best eaten cold'.

It's "Revenge is a dish best served cold".

[The_Dover]

I thought that was gazpacho?

[Morepower]

Was there more than 1 lane? and were you on the right lane?

Not that it justifies the road rage, however, I've come up behind a fair few people doing 100 or even under on the motorway (more than 1 lane), who've refused to budge, both in a cage and on the bike. I usually just switch to the left lane, then later switch back to the right lane (not passing). But really, would it so difficult moving over when someone driving / riding faster is coming up behind them? Lots of people seem to manage it fine, just some who have a misplaced sense of justice or something...

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Yep , I would rather get out of the way than be tailgated , particularly when the tailgater could do untold damage as they run you over. Rather be alive than in the right. Even in the vehicle (4wd) I will pull over and let the idiots go hassle someone else.

[750Y]

lmao, that is one sad story...
glad you're ok.

[_intense_]

Hey first up sorry for the late update chaps & ladies, just moved house (on top of other dramas) so have only just got back on the interweb.

Cheers for sympathies from all, much appreciated, and fr words of wisdom, my mistake was not going another way to work after the start of it all. Perhaps even being in the same Island... But anyway, the Police have caught up with him, (not the 85 year old) -how do you find that stuff out... heheh. It turns out the "suspect" is a known to the police, so that blows hes credability if he trys the "dangerous biker" line. Things are slow as hes trying to weasel out but al the paperwork has been served as far as i know, so there is some progress. What a relief.

As for my baby, im taking her into Welly MCs to get sussed out next week, from my look at it, it all looks cosmetic, fairings, lights etc. (thank fk that my sweet sounding remus got away from it virtualy unmarked!)

The ironic thing is that id started layby on a new shoei raid2 the week before it happened... gutted. my perfect christmas present to muyself thisyear is a rejuvinated sexy black honda. *sigh* so hopefully i can park up on cuba street one day again soon.

As much as i love the thought of vigilante justice, its not my way. and i dont condone it. I have the law on my side, and im not keen to let this fkwitt get away with it. He threatend me, used a weapon against me and did a runner. i want to see him without a car, and a life ban on driving, because the way i see it, the next time he goes roadrage on some one, is he going to kill them?

[Lord Derosso]

Make sure he's banned from also living within 5 miles of Island bay, or exported to that crazyland north of Hamilton because at the moment hes just too bloody close to home... about 1 km from me I suspect. Taking their licence away doesn't stop the real nutters , until they really do kill someone or a whole family eventually. See it too many times in the paper. Disqualified drivers doing major destruction. Good luck on the case and perhaps some of the local members may be able to come into court for support if you want? Theres always someone around at different times.

[Odin]

Good to hear that it's going the right way. Good luck with both the bike and the bandit

[Patrick]

Good read... bad luck and you're right, we have all been there before and given a serve to dopey drivers who pull out in front of you or change lanes onto you... most acknowledge their error and all is good in the world again. It's a shame about the odd loose cannon tho... quite like the idea of a number of bikers at his court appearance giving him the word after his appearance...

[ghost]

As much as i love the thought of vigilante justice, its not my way. and i dont condone it. I have the law on my side, and im not keen to let this fkwitt get away with it. He threatend me, used a weapon against me and did a runner. i want to see him without a car, and a life ban on driving, because the way i see it, the next time he goes roadrage on some one, is he going to kill them?

bwaaa haaa haaa " The Law" thats funny. Only just read the thread bloke and much sympathy for you and your metal friend. No one should ever have an experience like this.

However, dont mean to burst your bubble (and i acutally think you are a better person than me for being able to think like this) but the law on your side dont mean dick. He did what he did because he doesnt fear any consequence from the law and what it has become. How good would the day be that this guy gets a jail sentence for assault with intent to cause GBH. I doubt he will make it to court.

Hope he does, hope he gets run over by a train (railways have really good water blasters to clean these up easily), hope he learns the error of his ways....


keep us informed and good luck...

[jumma]

Hey intense, good to hear the balls rolling in some action being taken. Hope it's not too long before you're back on two wheels again.

[Patrick]

Hey intense, good to hear the balls rolling ...

So the swelling has subsided then???

[mattp]

Sorry to find out such actions going on back home :( . My only question is how did he stay with you? I was doing the parade run up to Newtown for a very long time and never got stuck in traffic. IMO, if you see someone that you think is a danger to you get the bike going and get the F out of there. On two wheels we are fooked most of the time in a crash.

Hope you get a good payout :scooter:

[Lucy]

I'm glad you are getting it sorted, but this thread has been bothering me. Even nice people who can admit they made a mistake can get defensive when they are sworn at like that. This guy was obviously a nasty idiot, and my Grandad always said 'treat all on the road like they are idiots' so to swear at him and then get in front (having the enemy at your back) seems a bit naive.

Maybe I am playing 'Devils advocate' here, but nothing good ever comes from abuse in my experience. Years ago I was edgy and defensive after riding a pushbike around Auckland for a while, and was yelling at a young guy who cut me off and nearly collected me. After a minute he said 'I said sorry and I didnt hit you' In other words 'what more can I do?' it shut me up and made me think twice. Obviously some people are incorrigible, but not everyone is, and most respond to abuse with abuse, and niceness with niceness.

JMO

[Lord Derosso]

You may want to backtrack five months worth of threads here from Wellington riders. We are sick and tired of nearly been wasted nearly every time we hit the capitals roads. Abusing someone after nearly been killed isnt exactly over reaction in my book. I was known to 'show' my boot to car doors in my earlier days but now I am old and actually know I could die, I practice self preservation techiques such as..... keep well away from cars. Doesnt stop those that still cut me off while changing lanes etc though.
Going in front of the 'enemy' makes no difference, he would have come after Intense anyway. What sort of nutter does this sort of thing and then drives off? Not the average road rage nutter for sure, and as he said the nutter is 'known' to police. Whats does that say in itself?

[Lucy]

the 'average road rage nutter', but a whole lot worse. But that's my point, if you don't know who or what you are abusing you a taking an even bigger risk.

I don't think I will backtrack and read those threads - I'm only new and I don't want to be put off, because I am loving riding my bike way too much!

Cheers

[Lord Derosso]

Thats the story. Though some members will say we shouldn't allow ourselves to be pushed around. Just be careful out there.