Cost of starting..??

[MrMeow]

Bar the cost of the motorbike, how much am i likley to spend in getting ready to start riding. Im really keen to start and i will regardless of the cost im just trying to get a ballpark of the amount im going to spend.
So far ive got
Handling Skills - $110
learners licence - $80
helmet - ???
leather jacket - ???
leather pants - ???
riding boots - ???
gloves - ???

are there any other costs i need to think about?

And a question about the gear, saftey is my primary concern so i dont want to buy the cheapest crap out there, but then i dont have mmegabucks to spend either?
Can anyone reccomend some gear to look at? should i be looking at second hand gear?
Thanks everyone i know there is a lot of questions.

[yungatart]

I went second hand gear, apart from gloves and boots - about $400 including helmet
The bike shops sometimes have specials at $699, for everything I think

[Macktheknife]

helmet - $100-600
leather jacket - $200-500
leather pants - $200-500
riding boots - $200-400
gloves - $50-150
These are approximate depending on many things, your budget and taste for example. You can get all you need to start with for about $1000, this will give you a good level of protection. Don't forget to look at Cordura options too.
Also you might want to think about doing a couple of rider training courses, BRONZ do one for about $50 that will teach you a lot. There are plenty of others.
Hope that helps
Mack

[Wasp]

mine was:

$160 BHS
$80 scratchie
second hand helmet and old leather jacket (jeans and school shoes)

more recently i bought:
spool 2 peice leather suit: $1200
hjc cl-12 helmet $160
sidi boots: $550
spool back protector: $120

if i had of had my recent crash in my old jeans/shoes/leather jacket i'd have a completly busted right shoulder (rolled and thats what hit the curb) and serious road rash. instead my leathers and boots saved my ass. its your call.

welcome to kb!

[Korea]

Shop around...
Have a look at the prices on:
http://www.motoretail.co.nz/

But don't forget to check out the offerings from Quasievil's QuasiMoto:
http://www.quasimoto.co.nz/

(Quasi's a regular on KB and has alot of quality gear at great prices - often does promotions and giveaways here too - nice guy)

Oh yeah, and welcome - happy shopping! :niceone:

[Filterer]

Dont forget once your setup your looking at $400+ (if you get it cheap) for insurance a year and $200+ for rego + $60 for 2wofs etc

Still youd have to pay that in a car as well but the fuel is so much cheaper.

[sunhuntin]

my first helmet was from cashies [$99 open face] thats in retirement after being hit by a car. all of my leathers and boots/gloves are second hand....jacket and pants from savemart, boots from my ex, gloves from a brother. ive got several different jackets, but only wear the one. i wear fingerless gloves in the winter, and proper ones in the winter...but they arent waterproof unfortuantly.

[fazer]

Never buy a secondhand helmet, you don`t know what tratment it`s had.

[fazer]

tratment?? you know wot I mean!

[JimO]

Still youd have to pay that in a car as well but the fuel is so much cheaper.[/QUOTE]
no the fuel is the same price but you slightly less and i doubt that some bikes are cheaper to run than some cars
:Punk:

[Jantar]

Often bike shops will do a deal on complete riding kit for a set price. It won't be top quality but it will be adequte. Alternatively you may get better gear second hand for around the same price. One main word of advice.... NEVER, NEVER buy a second hand helmet.

[KLOWN]

I got all my gear new, it was cordura and it was priced as follows...

gloves $70
helmet $200
pants $ 180
jacket $ 250

The good thing about cordura is its waterproof and cheap, the bad is if you come off it wrecks the gear where leather can usually take multiple falls (depending on speed etc) also its not nearly as stylish as leathers.

I have recently bought some leathers from quasimoto and they are very cool and at a good price.

[Coyote]

I was a learner like you only 2 years ago. This is what I know and it should be a help

I stand by the HJC CS-10 as being the best cheap helmet around. Mine has survived 5 crashes when all helmets are meant to only last one. I got mine for $160. They're also rebranded as Cirus. I suggest go for one of them. Only downside, hasn't got a fog-free visor. My next helmet (this christmas :D) will have to have one, prefurably tinted as well

As for boots, I got the cheapest around. They're made by 'Motoline' and they were $150 brand new. They survived a few more crashes than the helmet (when I used to do motard racing I had an MX helmet) and the zip has only just failed after 3 years of heavy abuse. I used them everywhere as well as riding. Will be replacing them this christmas too

Gloves: I got cheap Motoline gloves for $80. They're still fine, just a bit scuffed up. Plus the carbon fibre knuckles make them look real trick. Not bad for the cheapest new gloves I could find at the time

Jacket: I got a Tecknic Chicane Cordura jacket. I suggest go for the cordura/textile jacket if you're going to be riding through the rain often. My jacket is 100% waterproof and even in storm force weather I've come home bone dry. That was $270, on special from $300. Hasn't been crash tested yet

Pants: I got some Draggin Chinos. I chose these as I have been able to use them as uniform at school. It's less gear to stow away/lug around at school. They're really comfy and they don't get too hot in warm weather. However, a mate of mine crashed in his Draggin Jeans, they twisted around leaving his knee not defended by the kevlar and he got pretty torn up. Spent a while at hospital. They're obviously not waterproof as well

I've also got a set of race leathers, cheap ArmorTech leathers. $500 new. The right leg tore up when i crashed in a race. Otherwise they held up well in all my other crashes. They're not practical if you're riding to a destination, but if you're just riding from home and returning home they give you a bit more confidence that you'd come out unscathed if you were to end up crashing. I was lucky my first crash on a public road a few months ago I was in them. My Draggins and Jacket are one use only, plus my Draggins have no armor

Good luck finding some gear :niceone:

[fozz rock]

I'll NEVER buy a second hand helmet!!! (as above) you can lose an arm or leg and live(maybe) but not your head.

most of my gear is second hand and i'm always on the look out for more new and used stuff
with summer coming i'm looking at winter gear for next year

If you are buying your bike at a shop ask them what kind of deal they can do you on gear

[Coyote]

The good thing about cordura is its waterproof and cheap, the bad is if you come off it wrecks the gear where leather can usually take multiple falls (depending on speed etc) also its not nearly as stylish as leathers.

I have recently bought some leathers from quasimoto and they are very cool and at a good price.
I don't know. My Cordura jacket is rather trendy

QuasiMoto or MotoEquip are the best people to deal with. Support the kiwibiker businesses :D

[Pillick]

I was lucky getting set up:

$250 for second hand cordura jacket and pants - seems good, stood up to a low speed gravel slide no problems
$250 for a new HKC helmet
$80 for new gloves
$0 old tramping boots

So for $580 all up I'm covered, and waterproof - so much so that I feel like a complete tool putting it all on just to ride my little 150 :dodge: If money is an issue, definitely go 2nd hand for everything bar the helmet.

[KLOWN]

I don't know. My Cordura jacket is rather trendy

is that what your mum told you ? pt:yes:

but to clarify, nothing wrong with cordura just that leathers are MORE stylish.

[Ixion]

Shit you guys have a lot of money.

My round town kit has been the same for years, just replacing stuff as it wears out

Currently:

Boots new, $35, The Warehouse
Gloves new, Neo brand $35
Jacket, leather, black, secondhand from Trademe , no brand $45
Leggings new RJays, $250 I think, very dear anyway. Waste of money, I don't recommend them. There are cheaper alternatives. My great grandfather Ikey McTavish would disown me.
Helmet new HJC-14 $150

If you're hung up on armour, get the separate motox stuff. Fraction of the price works better, and more convenient. About $65.

I don't do style . I AM style. My style.

[mikey62]

Got a 2nd hand skid lid with first bike but bought a new Shoei a week later $180. Walked into cashies looking for a jacket and picked up a pair of perfectly sized leather pants $100. 2nd hand Technic jacket $150. New boots $150, gloves (with kevlar knuckles) $50. :rockon:

[R1madness]

How about
Helmets from $130 New Fullface
Jackets from $190
Pants from $160
boots from $190
Gloves from $45
But if you buy it all from me i will do you a deal.
Regards
Ian

[McJim]

2 words:

Motomail Kingsland

'nuff said.

[Roj]

I was a learner like you only 2 years ago. This is what I know and it should be a help

I stand by the HJC CS-10 as being the best cheap helmet around. Mine has survived 5 crashes when all helmets are meant to only last one. I got mine for $160. They're also rebranded as Cirus. I suggest go for one of them. Only downside, hasn't got a fog-free visor. My next helmet (this christmas :D) will have to have one, prefurably tinted as well



You should always replace a helmet if it has been in an accident, the reson being that damage can occur to the shell and padding which is designed to take the impact which you are unable to see.

This becomes expensive but the alternative may be a lifetime.

If you are involved in a high speed accident you may then discover why they say to replace the helmet every time

Hopefully you won't have this problem

[Roj]

Bar the cost of the motorbike, how much am i likley to spend in getting ready to start riding. Im really keen to start and i will regardless of the cost im just trying to get a ballpark of the amount im going to spend.
So far ive got
Handling Skills - $110
learners licence - $80
helmet - ???
leather jacket - ???
leather pants - ???
riding boots - ???
gloves - ???

are there any other costs i need to think about?

And a question about the gear, saftey is my primary concern so i dont want to buy the cheapest crap out there, but then i dont have mmegabucks to spend either?
Can anyone reccomend some gear to look at? should i be looking at second hand gear?
Thanks everyone i know there is a lot of questions.

Just don't skip on the gear, it can save a lot,

A good helmet is a must, my wife was recently involved in an open road accident but did not recieve any head injuries even though the helmet has scrape marks all the way round, she ended up with 12 fractures, was in hospital for almost 16 weeks and still requires crutches to walk, she now has 7 steel plates and 30 odd scews and bolts holding her together

Her jacket included a back shell as well as shoulder and elbow armour. She is recobering slowly but we have her gear to thank for things not being alot worse,

total cost of the gear? $1650,

the value of being in one peice? you can answer that one

[Squeak the Rat]

You forgot:


Bike
Insurance

The sky's the limit, though there is a point where the price increase becomes more one of style than function.

Beware cheap nasty jackets etc with lots of panelling and cheap stitching....

[Coyote]

You should always replace a helmet if it has been in an accident, the reson being that damage can occur to the shell and padding which is designed to take the impact which you are unable to see.

This becomes expensive but the alternative may be a lifetime.

If you are involved in a high speed accident you may then discover why they say to replace the helmet every time

Hopefully you won't have this problem
I don't value my life. Putting a price on my own life seems a bit egotistic

However my mum is worried by the state of my helmet, that's why I'm getting a new one this Christmas :D

[Roj]

I don't value my life. Putting a price on my own life seems a bit egotistic


Nice to be young, I used to believe myself bullet proof a few decades ago, the value of your life goes up as others become involved in it, wife and kids tend to put things in perspective:sunny:

[Swoop]

Mine has survived 5 crashes...
:gob: :gob: :gob:

Shit you guys have a lot of money.
I don't do style . I AM style. My style.
Gaiters???

2 words:

Motomail Kingsland

'nuff said.
Damn right! Do NOT go past a visit to this shop if you are starting out!!!!!!

Also factor in:
Radar detector.
Laser jammer.


(p/t).... perhaps

[Coyote]

:gob: :gob: :gob:

Haha, I make my helmet sound more extreme than the reality really is. One of the crashes I did suffer a mild concussion from, but the other 4 weren't that severe to my head. It still did get knocked around a bit

[Coyote]

Nice to be young, I used to believe myself bullet proof a few decades ago, the value of your life goes up as others become involved in it, wife and kids tend to put things in perspective:sunny:
Yeah, I currently only live to ride, and keep my parents happy that I'm not dead or a druggie. I don't believe I'm bulletproff. Punch me, I bleed

[Colapop]

Anyone mentioned maintenace? Change of fluids, filters, tyres, chain, sprockets... Best to put some aside for those costs (regularly)

[dawnrazor]

Gear will probably be one of your biggest investments - its a soory fact that, with one or two exceptions, you get what yous pay for. Having said that, I saw some damn fine gear in AMPS recently made by XION, its french and has a good name for itself in europe, look in alot of the brit bike press and you see plently of examples, Lou only have fabric gear in at the moment, but it looks bloody good and best of all its WELL affordable.

Good gear should last you a few years, so look at it like that, when you spread the cost over, say, 3 years its not so bad.

If you are buying a new bike and they offer you some gear as part of the deal, you'd be better off pooling the gear value and taking ONE good bit of kit, rather then several bits of crap that you'll want to replace in 6 months.

Bikes are ecconomical, but not neccessarily cheap and the associated costs can be heavy, buy quality and a couple of items bought at the same time should get you a discount from any good shop.

cheers