View Full Version : It's in production - finally
Hillbilly
30th October 2006, 21:29
Yep! The Hyosung powered Fischer MRX 650 has gone into production. It's been given a great review in the October issue of Australian Motorcycle News too, and is avilable at AUD $10,750 +ORC.
Alan Cathcart who reviewed the MRX likened it to an "American version of the Bimota DB5". What I never knew was that it was originally designed to have the Rotax 1000 V-twin, until Aprilia pulled the plug.
Clivoris
30th October 2006, 21:50
What I never knew was that it was originally designed to have the Rotax 1000 V-twin, until Aprilia pulled the plug.
Fairy muff too. Can't let any old riff raff have those Rotax engines. Far too powerful for moast peeps.
Hillbilly
30th October 2006, 22:16
Fischer will probaly use the new 1000's that Hyosung have put into the new Aquilas. Basically a Korean TL engine.
WarlockNZ
30th October 2006, 22:18
Yep! The Hyosung powered Fischer MRX 650 has gone into production. It's been given a great review in the October issue of Australian Motorcycle News too, and is avilable at AUD $10,750 +ORC.
Alan Cathcart who reviewed the MRX likened it to an "American version of the Bimota DB5". What I never knew was that it was originally designed to have the Rotax 1000 V-twin, until Aprilia pulled the plug.
I'm sorry!! .. did you say Hyosung??, it even looks kind of like a GTR.
sweet vindication!! ... never again can anyone give me shit about what i ride .. I hail you :)
although i'm just going to sit back and watch the bagging begin .. hee hee
onearmedbandit
31st October 2006, 00:54
Hyosung powered? I thought they were SV650 engines, or are they cheap knock-offs?
iwilde
31st October 2006, 01:31
Hyosung powered with a 160 rear
Edbear
31st October 2006, 05:45
Hyosung began making Suzuki's under licence and then poached a Suzuki engineer and developed their own engine. Sound familiar? The Korean's have been doing to the Japs what the Japs did to the Poms for years, now.
RantyDave
31st October 2006, 06:32
is avilable at AUD $10,750 +ORC.
Ah, now that /is/ interesting. I had been assuming they were going for a Bimota/Benelli kinda 'low volume high price exotic bike' thing ... and not 'affordable like an SV650' at all.
Still an ugly bastard, but significantly more interesting now it's about half what I had been assuming they'd be selling for.
Dave
McJim
31st October 2006, 07:29
Hmmmm - interesting - I was toying with the idea of an SV650 for my next bike (decided 1000s drink too much fuel and waste too many chains and tyres and I actually don't give a fark about going fast) Wanted something fully faired coz I like to have some shelter from the wind....will maybe test ride one of these in Autumn.
topher
31st October 2006, 08:16
Hyosung began making Suzuki's under licence and then poached a Suzuki engineer and developed their own engine. Sound familiar? The Korean's have been doing to the Japs what the Japs did to the Poms for years, now.
Except the koreans get to copy a well-developed, reliable product (Not saying the jappas have soul, they didn't get round to copying that). If the Koreans make the improvements to their copies that the Japs made when they copied the Brits, we'll have some fantastic bikes but with unintelligible, unpronounceable names.
Toast
31st October 2006, 11:26
Hyosung powered? I thought they were SV650 engines, or are they cheap knock-offs?
Doesn't the Hyosung engine put out about 10hp more than the Suzuki 650?
I'm surprised at the price of the Fischer, supposed to copy alot of motoGP geometry isn't it?
McJim
31st October 2006, 11:51
Crikey - didn't realise there was American engineering involved...back the the SV650S as a next bike for me then. :rofl:
Switch
31st October 2006, 11:54
I think thats a sexy looking bike :shutup: :dodge:
Edbear
31st October 2006, 12:28
Except the koreans get to copy a well-developed, reliable product (Not saying the jappas have soul, they didn't get round to copying that). If the Koreans make the improvements to their copies that the Japs made when they copied the Brits, we'll have some fantastic bikes but with unintelligible, unpronounceable names.
Quite right my good Sir! Mind you the global scene is somewhat different these days compared to what the Japs had back then and they really have to compete in a tough market. I think the size and experience of a company like Hyosung will see rapid improvement and a marked lift in quality in a short time. The Koreans are canny businessmen and will spend the money and hire the people necessary to get the market share.:yes:
They aren't the only ones with some wierd names either!:rolleyes:
SPman
31st October 2006, 12:47
The Koreans are canny businessmen and will spend the money and hire the people necessary to get the market share.
And watch out for the Chinese! Once they get their arses into top gear and go for the world market, the Koreans wont get a look in. The Chinese already own Benelli and are cranking that up.......so they dont just make billions of cheap copies of Hondas and Yamahas........ there are going to be lots of changes on the biking scene in the next 5 years, I reckon
Edbear
31st October 2006, 12:58
And watch out for the Chinese! Once they get their arses into top gear and go for the world market, the Koreans wont get a look in. The Chinese already own Benelli and are cranking that up.......so they dont just make billions of cheap copies of Hondas and Yamahas........ there are going to be lots of changes on the biking scene in the next 5 years, I reckon
Yep again! The Koreans know that and they're flat out trying to establish a niche for themselves as a buffer against the coming tide. Look what Hyundai are doing, they've really lifted their game in the car market.
It's dog-eat-dog out there and the Yanks are VERY concerned right now, too. Gotta give Harley kudos for their efforts, too, got some smart people in their planning department!
imdying
31st October 2006, 18:07
Yep again! The Koreans know that and they're flat out trying to establish a niche for themselves as a buffer against the coming tide. Look what Hyundai are doing, they've really lifted their game in the car market.
It's dog-eat-dog out there and the Yanks are VERY concerned right now, too. Gotta give Harley kudos for their efforts, too, got some smart people in their planning department!Harley is in a mild panic apparently. The average age of a Harley buyer is now 43, and they're concerned they're going to run out of buyers in the not too distant future. They won't go under, but they're worried that it'll reverse the growth they've made in the last decade.
I'm guessing more like 10 years than 5 before the Korean or Chinese 1000c four is competitive, but sure as eggs it'll come.
Waylander
31st October 2006, 18:22
SPman[/LEFT];806898]And watch out for the Chinese! Once they get their arses into top gear and go for the world market, the Koreans wont get a look in. The Chinese already own
Benelli and are cranking that up.......so they
dont just make billions of cheap copies of
Hondas and
Yamahas........ there are going to be lots of changes on the biking scene in the next 5 years, I reckonEver wondered what those geeky Asians were doing at school with their noses always stuffed into their studies? There ya go.
Hillbilly
1st November 2006, 00:34
Here are the subtle differences between the engines of the SV650, GT650 & MRX 650:
Suzuki SV650
Capacity 645cc
Bore x Stroke 81 x 62.6 mm
Compression Ratio 11.5:1
Max Power 70 hp @ 9000 rpm
Max Torque 61.7 Nm @ 7400 rpm
Hyosung GT650
Capacity 647cc
Bore X Stroke 78 x 67.2 mm
Compression Ratio 11.6:1
Max Power 79 hp @ 9500 rpm
Max Torque 69.4 Nm @ 7500 rpm
Fischer MRX650
Capacity 647cc
Bore x Stroke 81.55 x 62.0 mm
Compression Ratio 11.47:1
Max Power 79 hp @ 9000 rpm
Max Torque 69.4 Mn @ 7000 rpm
There are also various options available with the MRX650:
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