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snuffles
31st October 2006, 07:42
Warning:

Avoid blue mountains road this sunday, bloody cycle race , up and down 5 times.

Funny, I dont remember being asked if these wankers could use my access road to race up.

Well, I will have to see how many bikes i can push off the road and how many race officials I can tell to fuck off.

Str8 Jacket
31st October 2006, 07:45
Your an angry man, arent you?! :p

snuffles
31st October 2006, 07:52
Your an angry man, arent you?! :p

Angry? no just overly opinionated:angry:

Str8 Jacket
31st October 2006, 07:52
Angry? no just overly opinionated:angry:

Ah, so you're a Pom then?... :dodge:

snuffles
31st October 2006, 07:53
Ah, so you're a Pom then?... :dodge:

careful...........thats bodering on racism:yes:

Motig
31st October 2006, 08:00
Of course its bordering on racism. Isnt that what your talking about? Bicycle Racisming?:dodge:

topher
31st October 2006, 08:09
It's attitudes like this that make me ashamed to be a motorcyclist :(

Ach no laddie, tha's th' wanker speakin, no th' motorcyclist.

snuffles
31st October 2006, 08:11
It's attitudes like this that make me ashamed to be a motorcyclist :(

Thanks for your view.......... I will take it under advisement

The_Dover
31st October 2006, 08:17
It's attitudes like this that make me ashamed to be a motorcyclist :(

Dude, if you'd been on the Coro loop on Saturday you'd see why we hate the cunts.

Six abreast, on the wrong side of the road, gesticulating as we crawled past at 80km/h. all these dicks waving us to slow down when we are perfectly entitled to do 100k/h on the open highway.

Why do these people think they are allowed to hold races on public roads?? Who gives them permission, they're a fucking nuisance and should piss off and race on private land or mountain bike tracks or obey the same rules of the road as the rest of us (except the speed limit, that's a silly rule).

bobsmith
31st October 2006, 08:19
????

are you saying that they're racing on your property without your permission??? (I'm not sure what an "Access road" is?)

WTF???

bobsmith
31st October 2006, 08:27
It's just an excuse for the kiwi way...Trucks must hate cars must hate motorbikes must hate bicycles must hate pedestrians....blah blah blah...we have to be a cultural subset so we can strengthen our manly bonds with each other through hatred of another subset...one day they will grow up ...until then.

damn.... I've been getting it wrong all along, as a car driver, motorcycle rider and cyclist, I've just been hating all truck/bus/suv/4wheeldrive/holden/ford/soccor mum/family mover drivers.... all this time I should have been hating myself instead....

seriously though, what's an access road? Is he trying to say that they're racing on his property without permission?

Oh and I'm a cyclist myself but I still hate idiots that ride 6 abrest on public roads... those are the idiots that give us the bad name, even when we used to do team racing on wide wide roads, we never road more than 3 abrest (read unless it was a frecking humvee taking up both side of the road anyone could have passed us safely with heaps of room) I'm not so stupid to think that stupid car/bus/truck drivers are going to pass me safely...

McJim
31st October 2006, 08:29
Thanks for your view.......... I will take it under advisement

Why bother?

I've just realised I'm wasting my breath....will move on now.

ZeroIndex
31st October 2006, 08:29
Warning:

Avoid blue mountains road this sunday, bloody cycle race , up and down 5 times.

Funny, I dont remember being asked if these wankers could use my access road to race up.

Well, I will have to see how many bikes i can push off the road and how many race officials I can tell to fuck off.

what type of access road is it? is it gravel? Suggestion: Dig up some potholes just for the fun of it, set up video camera, and post all 'fun events' on YouTube :D

The_Dover
31st October 2006, 08:33
It's not Joe Public pootling along on his pushie that we have an issue with, I'll give him plenty of space and a little wave.

IT'S THE LYCRA CLAD FUCKWITS THAT TAKE OVER THE ROADS FOR THEIR 800 STRONG POOF UP.

Next time I'm taking a pocketful of thumb tacks, just in case......

snuffles
31st October 2006, 08:33
????

are you saying that they're racing on your property without your permission??? (I'm not sure what an "Access road" is?)

WTF???

correction: i say access road, but really mean the hill I live on.....please note the irony:yes:

Ixion
31st October 2006, 08:34
Well, about a year ago, I tootled down our (longish, shared) driveway, on my way to werk one morning (yes , I werk Saturdays). At the end of the driveway are a bunch of dudes with armbands.

Stop. You can't go out, we're holding a bicycle race. Eh, what. How long for . You can't go out until (about an hour away). Like hell I can't I'm already late for werk.

Much argument later, I went out in defiance of Little Mr Hitler.I'm confident I can keep out of the way of a ruddy treadley. Bugger that, since when did bloody cyclists get the right to imprision people in their houses ! Never had motorcycles, cars, trucks, or pedestrians try that lark.

Now I can't remember ever having any problems with individual cyclists. Indeed I empathise with them, they have to cope with moron cagers as we do (and occasionally I am even a psychlist myself).

But when they get together in groups, they seem to become the most inconsiderate, arrogant people on the roads. I think it is some sort of gang mentality thing. And these racing ones are the worst of all.

snuffles
31st October 2006, 08:35
It's not Joe Public pootling along on his pushie that we have an issue with, I'll give him plenty of space and a little wave.

IT'S THE LYCRA CLAD FUCKWITS THAT TAKE OVER THE ROADS FOR THEIR 800 STRONG POOF UP.

Next time I'm taking a pocketful of thumb tacks, just in case......

OOOhhhhh thumbtacks, theres an idea.

Rashika
31st October 2006, 08:42
But when they get together in groups, they seem to become the most inconsiderate, arrogant people on the roads. I think it is some sort of gang mentality thing. And these racing ones are the worst of all.

shit that sounds like another group of people I hear about all the time...
namely us.
Better stop congregating in groups huh? they might make a law against it ;)

But I do feel for you... ever been along dyers pass road during training season for the Le Race, its scary as fk being in a car or Mbike

inlinefour
31st October 2006, 08:58
But when they get together in groups, they seem to become the most inconsiderate, arrogant people on the roads. I think it is some sort of gang mentality thing. And these racing ones are the worst of all.

I cannot understand the attitudes displayed by these people and the selfishness towards other roads users. I believe that the majority are actually OK and its the minority that are preforming like trained seals. However what puts them all into disrepute is that within the group the minority are not sorted out and are permitted to keep preforming. Ive got a way to deal with them but it tends to upset people here on KBer, so I'll keep to to myself. Good luck with dealing with the trained seals. Have fun and don't let the shyte bother you too much. :rockon:

The_Dover
31st October 2006, 09:06
I cannot understand the attitudes displayed by these people and the selfishness towards other roads users. I believe that the majority are actually OK and its the minority that are preforming like trained seals. However what puts them all into disrepute is that within the group the minority are not sorted out and are permitted to keep preforming. Ive got a way to deal with them but it tends to upset people here on KBer, so I'll keep to to myself. Good luck with dealing with the trained seals. Have fun and don't let the shyte bother you too much. :rockon:

what the fuck are you talking about tons of fun?

James Deuce
31st October 2006, 09:14
If we rode motorcycles in a bunch that spilled onto the other side of the road at speeds 40-50km/hr slower than the posted limit and then claimed it was an organised race, there'd be a bunch of motorcyclists in court losing their licenses on the MOnday.

They have no license, they have no registration, they have no WoF, they pay no ACC levies and yet we're the bad guys when they wobble in front of powered traffic and get killed, or ride around a mountain bend with no clear view of what's coming, at least six abreast, and we have to take avoiding action.

That dadgum Road Code thingy says they can only ride two abreast. But they have no license, they have no registration, they have no WoF, they pay no ACC levies, so there's no comeback. There's not even a vehicle seizure clause for bicyclists behaving badly.

dawnrazor
31st October 2006, 09:18
correction: i say access road, but really mean the hill I live on.....please note the irony:yes:

You might need to look up a definition of IRONY at some stage, 'cus your current grasp of it is way off the mark.

ManDownUnder
31st October 2006, 09:18
If we rode motorcycles in a bunch that spilled onto the other side of the road at speeds 40-50km/hr slower than the posted limit and then claimed it was an organised race, there'd be a bunch of motorcyclists in court losing their licenses on the MOnday.



Good points... so what process do organisers go through to set up a cycle race/event. What permissions do they need to get and what notifications do they need to give?

And - once permissions have been given, what special rights (if any) are those involved entitled to? Are they actually allowed to ride more than 2 abreast in an organised meeting?

t3mp0r4ry nzr
31st October 2006, 09:19
guys, remember these are RACES that are held infrequently and if you cant/dont want to SHARE the road for a one off race then doesnt that say more about yourself than that of the cyclists.

James Deuce
31st October 2006, 09:24
When they block people's driveways and they haven't knocked on the door a month earlier to negotiate then they don't have a leg to stand on. They are also far from infrequent, as unorganised training rides of 30 or more people happen every couple of weeks in the Wellington/Wairarapa region. These are just cycle club rides and the literally do block the road and they don't move over.

Remember the Wairarapa sprints? A lot of people went to a lot of trouble to make sure that the people who lived on Dalefield Rd knew about it ahead of time. Cycle clubs tend to give a weeks notice in the Public Notices section of a newspaper.

Deano
31st October 2006, 09:25
The road needs to be closed by Council if they want to legally restrict resident's access. Resident's need to be (should be) notifed of this however.

Put the shoe on the other foot - the Gladstone Hillclimb and Sprints, Wanganui Cemetry Circuit and Paeroa all require that the local road(s) be closed.

Give and take eh ?

6 abreast on a public highway however.......

snuffles
31st October 2006, 09:25
You might need to look up a definition of IRONY at some stage, 'cus your current grasp of it is way off the mark.

Again, thanks for your input:yes:

sunhuntin
31st October 2006, 09:25
yep! i can handle cyclists as individuals [hell, i was one, and my dad is one] but as said above, when they gather in their groups, shit starts flying.
2 abreast when the road is wide enough to allow it, but single file when its narrow or coming up to a corner...those should be the rules, and they should be followed....as i said....single or pairs of cyclists are fine, its when they race that they cause problems.

i was comin home last night...bout 7pm. saw 4 or 5 joggers running on the side of the road, in the cycle track. this track is about a meter wide, if not more. also runs alongside the trees of a park, so is rather shadowed.
one jogger was running right on top of the white line, virtually on my side of things....no reflective gear, nothing, and barely moved over. that person was lucky i saw them, otherwise it could have been a major injury. there aint no need to run that far out, and the park has a "road" through it anyway suitable for joggers.

The_Dover
31st October 2006, 09:27
guys, remember these are RACES that are held infrequently and if you cant/dont want to SHARE the road for a one off race then doesnt that say more about yourself than that of the cyclists.

crackhead alert.

No it doesn't, these cunts want to race then let them fuckin hire a racetrack or piss of to a velodrome.

We don't race on public roads, unless they are closed, and the participants that do all hold race licences.

James Deuce
31st October 2006, 09:30
The road needs to be closed by Council if they want to legally restrict resident's access. Resident's need to be (should be) notifed of this however.

Put the shoe on the other foot - the Gladstone Hillclimb and Sprints, Wanganui Cemetry Circuit and Paeroa all require that the local road(s) be closed.

Give and take eh ?

6 abreast on a public highway however.......

Road closures for those events are notified well ahead of time and in more than one media type and instance. The Wairarapa Times Age runs a piece on each event to both publicise them and raise public awareness.

There are also at least one cycle meeting per weekend in the Wellington/Wairarapa region in the 4 months of late Spring and Summer.

pervert
31st October 2006, 09:30
guys, remember these are RACES that are held infrequently and if you cant/dont want to SHARE the road for a one off race then doesnt that say more about yourself than that of the cyclists.


What a crock of shit.

It's a issue of one rule for one, one rule for another...

sunhuntin
31st October 2006, 09:32
guys, remember these are RACES that are held infrequently and if you cant/dont want to SHARE the road for a one off race then doesnt that say more about yourself than that of the cyclists.

bs...around here, i dont realise im riding in to a racing area till its too late...there are no signs up or anything, and yes, they ride in clusters. same with the lake taupo "run". if id known about that, i would have left a day early when going to paeroa...instead, i got caught in deadlocked traffic, while myself and my bike overheated before giving up and splitting the rest of the way. it wasnt the runners causing the blocks...it was there supporters! i got squirted with water pistols and all the rest....not much fun.

Rashika
31st October 2006, 09:47
We don't race on public roads, unless they are closed, and the participants that do all hold race licences.

Tui moment there.... no we NEVER race on public roads :innocent:

But yup you are correct, we have to fly through hoops to get a road closed for an event like the st races, nothing like the same for cyclists it seems, tho that may be changing... The Le race event a couple of years ago had a bit of conflict when cyclist was killed crossing the centre line on an Unclosed road.
Any event on the road really should have the roads closed, whether it be motor vehicles or pedal.

We actually came apon a cycle road race the other day whilst out on the bikes, the only clue we had was the numerous vehicles crawling along at 30km, which we slowly passed....only to find cyclists at the front racing. This is a moderately popular unclosed road, but at least they were behaving and unlike dyers pass road there is not a 100m drop on the side of the road

t3mp0r4ry nzr
31st October 2006, 09:52
[QUOTE=The_Dover;806663]crackhead alert.

No it doesn't, these cunts want to race then let them fuckin hire a racetrack or piss of to a velodrome.

We don't race on public roads, unless they are closed, and the participants that do all hold race licences

big races like the one you encountered on the weekend is an annual event that is a very big deal for cyclists and they have the backing and support of local police because it is a SPORTING EVENT. You need to keep that in perspective that it is sport and you cannot compare sport with MOTORSPORT.

t3mp0r4ry nzr
31st October 2006, 09:54
What a crock of shit.

It's a issue of one rule for one, one rule for another...

apples vs oranges mate

Paulus
31st October 2006, 09:57
I do a bit of road cycle racing and so feel qualified to make these points:

- when most races are on there are signs out on the course warning other road users
- most weeks there will only be one race on in any given area and it will usually only be 1-3 hours in duration
- when you do pass a race it only takes a few seconds unless it's a big event like Taupo or Le Race in which case it may be best to stay off that road on that day
- most racers own cars and motorbikes and so do pay ACC levies and road user charges
- most events require a competition licence (just like motorcycle racing)
- some events are held on race tracks (there is an evening series held out at Ruapuna)
- some motorists take delight in trying to run cyclists off the road (especially boy racers)
- some cyclists are just plain wankers
- it's actually bloody good fun, physically demanding and very tactical - you should try it

Swoop
31st October 2006, 09:59
If we rode motorcycles in a bunch that spilled onto the other side of the road at speeds 40-50km/hr slower than the posted limit and then claimed it was an organised race, there'd be a bunch of motorcyclists in court losing their licenses on the MOnday.

They have no license, they have no registration, they have no WoF, they pay no ACC levies and yet we're the bad guys when they wobble in front of powered traffic and get killed, or ride around a mountain bend with no clear view of what's coming, at least six abreast, and we have to take avoiding action.

That dadgum Road Code thingy says they can only ride two abreast. But they have no license, they have no registration, they have no WoF, they pay no ACC levies, so there's no comeback. There's not even a vehicle seizure clause for bicyclists behaving badly.

An excellent post Jim!!!

The_Dover
31st October 2006, 10:10
I couldn't give a shit if it was an annual event, a daily event or the cyclists equivalent of winning lotto.

They should follow the same rules as everyone else.

We may go out on group rides and ride a little quickly on occasion, we pay the price when caught.

We pay ACC levies for EVERY vehicle we use on the road, they don't.

AND THEY LOOK FUCKING GAY IN LYCRA.

t3mp0r4ry nzr
31st October 2006, 10:11
When they block people's driveways and they haven't knocked on the door a month earlier to negotiate then they don't have a leg to stand on. They are also far from infrequent, as unorganised training rides of 30 or more people happen every couple of weeks in the Wellington/Wairarapa region. These are just cycle club rides and the literally do block the road and they don't move over.

thats not on at all and very inconsiderate. My main point is, chill out, so you may be inconvenienced for 10 minutes, its not a big deal really, is it?? And if you do think it is such a big deal, then god help ya.

McJim
31st October 2006, 10:13
AND THEY LOOK FUCKING GAY IN LYCRA.

And you love it! :killingme:

t3mp0r4ry nzr
31st October 2006, 10:14
- some cyclists are just plain wankers


thats true. cycling seems to attract or breed arrogance and wankery

pervert
31st October 2006, 10:26
apples vs oranges mate

No way, they're all road users, they all should come under the same rules.

Squeak the Rat
31st October 2006, 10:26
This thread is funny considering most people participating at one point or another have complained bitterly about Helen Clarke and her "nanny state" banning stuff and curbing peoples freedom and enjoyement because their activities inconvenience some people.

Eg Banning Fireworks Thread (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=37358&highlight=fawkes)

Swoop
31st October 2006, 10:30
thats true. cycling seems to attract or breed arrogance and wankery
Much like all the cyclists who choose to cycle across pedestrian crossings.
The law states that this is not legal, and they must walk their bikes across.

Ixion
31st October 2006, 10:33
If the roads WERE closed for these races, as they are for motorcycle or car races, it would be less of a problem. If you are out on bike or in cage, and you come to a "Road Closed", there will always be detours posted , and usually , it is no more than a minor hassle, and perhaps some annoyance at the extra time to go a longer way round.

But the cycle races , they seldom (if ever?) DO close the road. So everyone just gets caught up and trapped . I suspect they do not apply to have to road closed becasue they would not be approved. So, they SHOULD , in theory, be obeying all the road rules - just as a similar group of motorcyclists out on a ride (and lets face facts, most KB rides are really races in disguise) must do.

I don't say that motorcyclists always obey the law strictly (especially the one about speed, eh). But , they usually maintain reasonable consideration for other road users. Those that don't will be considered prats by their peers. And if caught by Mr Plod rulebreaking they must expect tickets or worse.

But, the cyclists never do obey the Road Rules, or even make any attempt to do so. And appear to regard their failure to do so as other peoples' problem.

Personally , I don't too much mind them riding abreast, so long as they stay on the correct side of the road. It's not any more of an obstruction than a slow cage or truck.

It is when the take over BOTH sides of the road, or become belligerant when overtaken, that I object. Or deliberately weave back and forth to try to prevent one overtaking them. Or the other stupid tricks that they play.

Beemer
31st October 2006, 10:34
:whocares:
Well, about a year ago, I tootled down our (longish, shared) driveway, on my way to werk one morning (yes , I werk Saturdays). At the end of the driveway are a bunch of dudes with armbands.

Stop. You can't go out, we're holding a bicycle race. Eh, what. How long for . You can't go out until (about an hour away). Like hell I can't I'm already late for werk.

Much argument later, I went out in defiance of Little Mr Hitler.I'm confident I can keep out of the way of a ruddy treadley. Bugger that, since when did bloody cyclists get the right to imprision people in their houses ! Never had motorcycles, cars, trucks, or pedestrians try that lark.

That's close to what happens near us every year for the secondary school cycling champs. Our road is a no exit road but they actually race on the road that joins ours. One year I got out to the main road and was blockaded in - yes, we all received a warning of the RACE and the need to take care, but they do not officially close the road and I was extremely pissed off at not being able to get out. It was only when I threatened to ring the police that they moved their cars and let me out, but they still made me wait until the race had ended (they hold about 20 races during the day) - which meant I had more cyclists to dodge as they wove their way back to the start line. They spend all Friday afternoon practising and all Saturday racing and they have very little respect for anyone who lives there. It's a farming community - do they expect the milk tanker driver and all the farmers there to just sit around relaxing all day instead of getting out there and working?

James Deuce
31st October 2006, 10:35
thats not on at all and very inconsiderate. My main point is, chill out, so you may be inconvenienced for 10 minutes, its not a big deal really, is it?? And if you do think it is such a big deal, then god help ya.

I think blocking Ixion (or attempting to) from going to work is not on.

For your information, most top level motor sports athlete's cardio-vascular fitness would leave most sport's people in the dust.

I have an issue with being forced off the road or threatened for using a public road. I won't be "chilling out" because cyclists are the least considerate road users I've ever encountered and they do stuff that would have our motorcycles impounded. They are allowed to cause and participate in accidents and the responsibility always lands on the powered vehicle's driver, up to and including manslaughter charges.

Rashika makes a good point, but when we go for a strop we don't tend to do it in a gaggle of 30 or more people in a space of about 50 metres.

It's not a regular event, but my wife and I have both been held up traversing the Rimutakas in a car by cyclists riding in the centre of the lane at speeds that I am sure feel fast to them, but are positively glacial for for anyone with the sense to use a vehicle with an internal combustion engine.

The last Wellington Cycle race (the one that that chipmunk-faced girl won) closed off roads that prevented me from responding to a customer call out that nearly go me fired, because the race organising nazis wouldn't let me into my building. Are you seeing a common theme?

Paulus
31st October 2006, 10:46
You should see some of the stunts that get pulled on cyclists in town here. I would hardly ever go out a training ride without at least one idiot failing to give way, opening a door on me, cutting me off or closing a gap over a cycling lane. It goes both ways. Is it worth potentially killing someone to be 15 seconds faster to your next stop?

Steam
31st October 2006, 10:47
This is like the "Waving" threads, it comes up every month or so.
It gets a lot of people fired up but nothing new ever gets said.

McJim
31st October 2006, 10:49
I can see both sides of the issue here - honestly I can. Many of these organising 'Nazis' have probably been fucked up by cage drivers or motorcyclists in the past, so they generalise and treat all cagers and bikers like wankers.THEY ARE WRONG TO DO SO. Also they are probably parents of competitors and their zeal is a result of desire that their child not be killed.

I just thought that with an online forum there would be the opportunity for me to beg you not to generalise about all cyclists. I have a spare road bike at home and lycra aplenty for you to borrow if you'd like to come out for a spin and experience the road use from the other side THEN you can pass judgement.

I have a problem with people making these sweeping generalisations - it's a shame and it perpetuates the issue - especially in a country renowned for it's lack of road courtesy

James Deuce
31st October 2006, 10:50
Oooo an insightful observation. If that's how you feel Steam, come up with something new. Stop cherry-picking the argument.

Bloody GN rider. Male, female, doesn't matter, they're all stroppy. Must be like short-person's syndrome.

GN rider's syndrome. Makes sense really.

Ixion
31st October 2006, 10:51
You should see some of the stunts that get pulled on cyclists in town here. I would hardly ever go out a training ride without at least one idiot failing to give way, opening a door on me, cutting me off or closing a gap over a cycling lane. It goes both ways. Is it worth potentially killing someone to be 15 seconds faster to your next stop?

Uh huh. Sounds pretty much like my commute each day. That's just the reality of being on two wheels, powered or not. Your point is?

McJim
31st October 2006, 10:52
Oooo an insightful observation. If that's how you feel Steam, come up with something new. Stop cherry-picking the argument.

Bloody GN rider. Male, female, doesn't matter, they're all stroppy. Must be like short-person's syndrome.

GN rider's syndrome. Makes sense really.


Any more of this generalisation and I'll start a waving thread....I'm warning you....:rofl: it's all good - at least we're all still talking to each other!

Ixion
31st October 2006, 10:58
,,

I just thought that with an online forum there would be the opportunity for me to beg you not to generalise about all cyclists. ,,

Don't think you're being quite fair , there. A number of folk in this thread (including, inter alia, me and Dover) have pointed out that we have no problem with individual cyclists, or even a couple or so together.

It is when hordes of them take over a road completely that people get annoyed.

And , apart from the fact that many motorcyclists (again, including myself) at least occasionally take to pedal power, most motorcylists will have a fairly good idea of the hazards and difficulties faced by cyclists. Most of them are exactly those faced by riders of low powered motorcycles.

Paulus
31st October 2006, 11:01
Uh huh. Sounds pretty much like my commute each day. That's just the reality of being on two wheels, powered or not. Your point is?I would have thought that the point was obvious. Cyclists have to put up with a lot of crap from other road users too.

For me it is actually safer on the road here on a motorbike than it is on a push bike. You cut the number of potential disasters in half. YMMV.

topher
31st October 2006, 11:01
This thread is funny considering most people participating at one point or another have complained bitterly about Helen Clarke and her "nanny state" banning stuff and curbing peoples freedom and enjoyement because their activities inconvenience some people.

Eg Banning Fireworks Thread (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=37358&highlight=fawkes)

Oops. I was just going to grizzle about being inconvenienced and suggest banning someone else's activity. Still it's a public place, a public road, pushbikers are public so can use it. Any other publics like me want to organise an 8 ball tournament on the road? It's a public place so it shouldn't be a problem if we inconvenience anyone...

The_Dover
31st October 2006, 11:03
what a fucking crock of shit.

once again we're not talking about one or two cyclists out to show off their balls in expensive lycra on their carbon fibre arse crack attachments, we're talking about officially sanctioned, organised RACING on public roads.

There were 800 of the pricks on the coromandel, holding us and many motorists up for the duration of the ride from Tairua to the hill before coromandel.

Not on, fuck off and race on a closed road or a track.

Just make sure you've got a puncture repair kit next time you see "The King" pass you.

EDIT: and I did ride a pushie for a month when I lost my licence. fucking horrible contraption and it reminded me oft he nightmare of youth.

sunhuntin
31st October 2006, 11:11
the most common race route here covers part of the main road from national park/paraparas, and is very busy most of the time. it moves from 50k to 80, then 100k. lots of trucks use it [i use to cycle that way just to get the rushes from the trucks]. they do not and cannot close that road, the only alternative i think would be desert highway, and many people would be rightly pissed off.

dawnrazor
31st October 2006, 11:50
this thread has the smell of "rant and rave" or PD about it

The_Dover
31st October 2006, 11:54
this thread has the smell of "rant and rave" or PD about it

i think that's all those sweaty lycra clad cyclists......:sick:

Hitcher
31st October 2006, 11:56
(including, inter alia, me and Dover)

That prick, Inter Alia, owes me $20.

Squeak the Rat
31st October 2006, 11:57
On that note, has any one tried calling the cops?

(suppresses urge to use smiley)

Deano
31st October 2006, 12:18
Sound effects - LMFAO - now that's frikken cool.

topher
31st October 2006, 12:21
On that note, has any one tried calling the cops?

(suppresses urge to use smiley)



I just couldn't:shit: :shit: :shit: Had the sound turned up and crapped myself.:sweatdrop :sweatdrop :sweatdrop

ceebie13
31st October 2006, 12:51
Had the sound turned up and crapped myself

Me too! Bloody good job I had my bicycle clips on!!!

jrandom
31st October 2006, 13:19
Nicky Hayden does a lot of road riding on pushies. He's sponsored by Specialized, even, and has made comments crediting his race fitness to the training time he spends on a bicycle.

Just thought I'd, you know, mention it.

It's amazing how grumpy you all sound.

McJim
31st October 2006, 13:22
I was grumpy for the first 5 minutes then I got into wind up mode and off I went with a giggle. So some of the other people's grumpiness may be my fault.

James Deuce
31st October 2006, 13:29
Nicky Hayden does a lot of road riding on pushies. He's sponsored by Specialized, even, and has made comments crediting his race fitness to the training time he spends on a bicycle.

Just thought I'd, you know, mention it.

It's amazing how grumpy you all sound.

Shuddup! Shuddup!

Jantar
31st October 2006, 13:29
guys, remember these are RACES that are held infrequently and if you cant/dont want to SHARE the road for a one off race then doesnt that say more about yourself than that of the cyclists. So every Wednesday evening is infrequent?

Jantar
31st October 2006, 13:33
Put the shoe on the other foot - the Gladstone Hillclimb and Sprints, Wanganui Cemetry Circuit and Paeroa all require that the local road(s) be closed........
For all of theses events the road is closed, application is made to the local council, all affected parties are notified of the intention and it is publicly notified in the paper. If there are too many objections then the evenjt is not held. Notice the V8s didn't get consent.

McJim
31st October 2006, 13:37
The irony is that outside New Zealand the world thinks you guys are really supportive of your cyclists coz they're pretty damn good on the world stage.

Keep up the good work and haul in those Olympic and world titles.

I often take the VTR for a blat out east on a Sunday morning and see all the cyclists swarming around - I think they meet at Whitford. I give them a friendly wave and they wave back - everyone having a lovely sunny Sunday morning ride.

Deano
31st October 2006, 13:39
For all of theses events the road is closed, application is made to the local council, all affected parties are notified of the intention and it is publicly notified in the paper.

That's correct - and in the case in point, notification was given.

I'm pretty sure the last race in the Hutt City was notified also.


If there are too many objections then the evenjt is not held.

Unless the Mayor rides a Harley :shutup: (In the case of Hillclimb and Sprints)

James Deuce
31st October 2006, 14:05
The irony is that outside New Zealand the world thinks you guys are really supportive of your cyclists coz they're pretty damn good on the world stage.

Keep up the good work and haul in those Olympic and world titles.



Right! I'm going cyclist jousting. I'll go home and get a big broom handle and run the buggers down.

Swoop
31st October 2006, 14:10
Right! I'm going cyclist jousting. I'll go home and get a big broom handle and run the buggers down.
I'll get the fire pit going for when you return with the lycra-clad-kebab...

snuffles
31st October 2006, 14:32
And once again it never fails to make me laugh my tits off.

I love posting a whinge and getting told by 100 other over opinionated wankers, that I am just a whinger.

Get it right.

I am an over opinionated Wanker just like the rest of you.

ceebie13
31st October 2006, 14:53
I am an over opinionated Wanker just like the rest of you.

I just think it's amusing that we all get so easily carried away on thread
topics in these kind of forums. (Me included). We all think we are experts but if the truth be known we aren't. (well except me of course!). Still, all prat of life's rich pastry eh?

Deano
31st October 2006, 15:03
Just another day at the office.

Squeak the Rat
31st October 2006, 15:27
A suburban road walks into a bar and asks for a pint. The barman serves him, but he looks really tough and the barman worries that there'll be trouble.

Then a state highway then walks in and buys a pint. The barman again notes that he looks tough and says, ‘Look, I don't want any trouble, so could you sit in that corner away from the suburban road?’ So the state highway way does.

Soon afterwards, in walks a motorway and gets a pint, who looks extremely tough, so the barman makes him sit in another corner away from the other two roads.

A bit later, a really skinny green piece of road walks in and buys a diet coke. The other roads all look at him aghast and run out of the pub. The barman grabs the motorway on the way past and asks, ‘Why are you running out? He's a really tiny road.’

The motorway replies, ‘He's no road, he's a cycle path!’

McJim
31st October 2006, 15:29
I just think it's amusing that we all get so easily carried away on thread
topics in these kind of forums. (Me included). We all think we are experts but if the truth be known we aren't. (well except me of course!). Still, all prat of life's rich pastry eh?

Speak for yourself mate - I'm a meat pie.

Hitcher
31st October 2006, 16:03
That HTML music clip is REALLY irritating. I would be most grateful if whoever has embedded it could expunge it.

dawnrazor
31st October 2006, 16:06
what fucking dick has embedded music in this post, some of us looka t KB in work

jrandom
31st October 2006, 16:08
That HTML music clip is REALLY irritating.

I never click on the 'install additional plugin required to display media on this page' button. I therefore have no idea what you're talking about. My consequent moral superiority is second only to my smug, Zen-like tranquillity.

Hitcher
31st October 2006, 16:10
The excuses some use for having under-specced kit...

jrandom
31st October 2006, 16:11
all prat of life's rich pastry...I'm a meat pie.

I'm a prat.

t3mp0r4ry nzr
31st October 2006, 16:35
I am an over opinionated Wanker just like the rest of you.
its all good, wouldnt it be boring if we all had the same ideas :zzzz: diversity makes things interesting

Jantar
31st October 2006, 16:42
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(suppresses urge to use smiley)

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OK I found out who the annoying bastard is who has taken over our computers with noise. Some of us are on dial-up and just don't want to tie up our lines with this crap.

Ixion
31st October 2006, 17:18
I never click on the 'install additional plugin required to display media on this page' button. I therefore have no idea what you're talking about. My consequent moral superiority is second only to my smug, Zen-like tranquillity.

Not only do I never install plugins, I also rip the wires out of all speakers. I like silence.



I'm a prat.


Sprat. You're a sprat.

Fish. Sprat. Geddit. Everyone a gem. :rofl:

Ah well, some people just have no sense of humour.

inlinefour
31st October 2006, 22:51
what the fuck are you talking about tons of fun?

you having a slow day or you just missing WINJA's goats? :love:

Lou Girardin
1st November 2006, 05:59
I'm a prat.

Can't be. I work for Pratts, I've never seen you there.

jrandom
1st November 2006, 13:10
I work for Pratts...

In the Spare Prats department?

I guess I'm out of stock.