Another NZer up for a Darwin award? [Archive]

merv

31st October 2006, 17:48

Yeah I was thinking the same myself after I read this on Stuff today:

Youth killed when teen sniffing gas lights cigarette
31 October 2006

A youth was killed when one of five teenagers sniffing from an LPG bottle in a car parked in Blenheim apparently lit a cigarette, police believe.

Thomas Kelson Hillman, 18, of Picton was killed after the gas explosion at 9.30pm last night. The other four remain in stable condition in Wairau Hospital.

Senior Sergeant Tony Sampson of the Blenheim police said initial inquiries failed to find any fault with the portable gas bottle which had been handled by members of the group at the time of the explosion.

Some members of the group were involved in inhaling flammable gases, he said.

It appeared that some had been sniffing LPG from the bottle minutes before the explosion, he said.

"It appears that an attempt to light a cigarette in the vehicle a short time later may have caused the explosion."

Mr Sampson said Mr Hillman had only been with the group for a short-time before the explosion but it was unknown if he had been inhaling the gas.

He survived the blast and was taken to Wairau Hospital, where staff spent "quite some time" in an unsuccessful effort to save his life.

Mr Sampson said police and fire service investigators were warning that substance abuse involving flammable gases was an extremely dangerous practice and "one which can have tragic consequences".

Mr Hillman's death has been reported to the coroner and police inquiries were continuing.

Hitcher

31st October 2006, 17:54

I had my suspicions when the news about a gas cylinder explosion was first published. Cylinders generally don't explode if they are being treated in a seemly manner.

Waylander

31st October 2006, 18:06

So how soon for the ban on LPG containers? Or maybe lighters?

bobsmith

31st October 2006, 18:31

So how soon for the ban on LPG containers? Or maybe lighters?

Nah, I think we should ban teenagers. they're dangerous. Hell ban all kids while we're at it then we'll never have to worry about dieing children, etc...

doc

31st October 2006, 18:36

So how soon for the ban on LPG containers? Or maybe lighters?

As a user pays society we should really look at a tax on the people that use gas cylinders to pay a tax on each refill to pay for the cost of this "Tragedy". Then the "Consolidated Fund" can be used to solve the problem.

Waylander

31st October 2006, 18:39

As a user pays society we should really look at a tax on the people that use gas cylinders to pay a tax on each refill to pay for the cost of this "Tragedy". Then the "Consolidated Fund" can be used to solve the problem.
More likely end up in some politico pocket. Then they can say that the tax isn't enough to cover for it and raise it again.

Skyryder

31st October 2006, 18:41

So how soon for the ban on LPG containers? Or maybe lighters?

I thought a ban on smoking might be the way to go. :rockon:

Skyryder

Waylander

31st October 2006, 18:41

I thought a ban on smoking might be the way to go. :rockon:

Skyryder
Nah, they get too much money on the tobacco tax.

dawnrazor

31st October 2006, 18:41

survival of the fittest

Drum

31st October 2006, 18:44

Makes me proud to be from Blenheim.:no:

Maybe if pot was decriminalised they might've just had a toke instead, and one kid would still be alive today.

Motu

31st October 2006, 18:54

Paul in NZ

31st October 2006, 18:57

LPG gets you high?? No wonder BBQ's are so popular.

I would have thought that it is an expensive way to get high given the current cost of a bottle of cheap red wine

MrMelon

31st October 2006, 18:57

Jesus there were 5 of them in there. Did one of them not become a little suspicious when another started rolling a smoke and asked for a light?!

SlashWylde

31st October 2006, 19:10

Nah, they get too much money on the tobacco tax.

...well actually the govt is gearing up to eliminate smoking altogether. The plan is to progressively raise the price of tobacco and eventually replace name brand cigarette with a plain packaged variety, with distribution controlled by the state. The long term aim is to see what they call an "end game" point in time where there are no more tobacco sales.

Now I have no problem with this in regards to cigarette smoking which is an addiction which costs the country a lot of money. But as a cigar aficionado who enjoys a good Cuban one or twice a year it really fucks me off that the nanny state is trying to tell me I can't have one.

I suppose cigarette smokers would feel the same however.

Rant over...back to your regularly scheduled insanity...

Waylander

31st October 2006, 19:12

But as a cigar aficionado who enjoys a good Cuban one or twice a year it really fucks me off that the nanny state is trying to tell me I can't have one.

Much like fireworks. Wich is what I am really pissed pff about at the moment.

SlashWylde

31st October 2006, 19:17

Much like fireworks. Wich is what I am really pissed pff about at the moment.

Which in turn is going to be banned because of the actions of the young and stupid.

Worst part is the fireworks kids have these days are lame compared to what we had 15 or 20 years ago, and we never hurt anyone or damaged property with our 'science experiments'. But the kids of today still manage to fuck it up for the rest of us some how.

I second that call to ban teenagers.....stupid little retards....:angry2:

Waylander

31st October 2006, 19:21

Which in turn is going to be banned because of the actions of the young and stupid.

Worst part is the fireworks kids have these days are lame compared to what we had 15 or 20 years ago, and we never hurt anyone or damaged property with our 'science experiments'. But the kids of today still manage to fuck it up for the rest of us some how.

I second that call to ban teenagers.....stupid little retards....:angry2:
Cause we never intentionally tried to damage shit while growing up. Nowadays they do what they can to try and destroy things for entertainment. Think they had it right afterall, video games have altered reality for alot of kids. Shame it's actually the parrents not making sure the kids understand the difference from the game and real life that's really at fault.

SlashWylde

31st October 2006, 19:29

...video games have altered reality for alot of kids. Shame it's actually the parrents not making sure the kids understand the difference from the game and real life that's really at fault.

Aggreed. It's only gonna get worse as housing becomes denser and the availability of outdoor play areas for kids becomes scarcer. Kids are growing up faster and are dependent on technology to entertain them.

I hate to hear myself say this but oh well..."When I was a boy" some 15 to 20 years ago, we made our own fun with sports, BMXs, skateboards, model planes, go-karts...you name it.

CAn't relate to kids these days. Half of them are wannabe gangsters by the age of 10, the other half are mesmerised sitting in front of a PS, X-box or PC...

...he says sheepishly sitting in front of a PC :Oops: ...OK gotta go. Got an electronics exam on Monday...

Waylander

31st October 2006, 19:38

Lol, I've owned every platform gaming machine since the NES man. Only missed the Dreamcast (cause it sucked) and the current ones (too fucking expensive) I still went out and played, made my own go-cart (bicycle wheels and brakes wooden frame) that my dad towed behinds his motorcycle up and down our street. Perfectly stable up to about 30mph, then the rear wheels fell off. Fixed that for good the second time that happened though.
Made my own wooden swords (using the table saw safely at age 9) and me and by brother would whack each other silly trying to be Zorro.
We would climb up on the roof and do some 'base jumping' with bed sheets as parachutes.

Today's parents are afraid of their kids getting hurt doing that these days so shelter them, then when the kids do get some time out away from the egg carton, they go too far and get others hurt.

sunhuntin

31st October 2006, 19:55

I still went out and played, made my own go-cart (bicycle wheels and brakes wooden frame) that my dad towed behinds his motorcycle up and down our street. Perfectly stable up to about 30mph, then the rear wheels fell off. Fixed that for good the second time that happened though.
Made my own wooden swords (using the table saw safely at age 9) and me and by brother would whack each other silly trying to be Zorro.
We would climb up on the roof and do some 'base jumping' with bed sheets as parachutes.

Today's parents are afraid of their kids getting hurt doing that these days so shelter them, then when the kids do get some time out away from the egg carton, they go too far and get others hurt.

yep, when i was a kid, it was archery, target shooting, climbing trees, swimming [unattended] and what have you. i remember to get to the tree house, you had to climb the gate, the letter box and onto the fence, then a step into space in the hope of foot meeting tree. i missed once and fell one hell of a distance. never missed again, lol. also had a dart board...i got a center once, just clowning around...pity no one was there to see, lol.
we never did anyone any damage either, not intentionally. sadly....this was only 10, 15 years ago. im only 21, but feel as old as the hills where youths are involved. i think my generation [80's] was the start of the pc/cotton-wool situation of today. i remember telling dad not to smack me cos id go to the cops. i only hope the next generations can correct the wrongs.

there was a story in the paper today...a month old baby had a firework thrown at her in a carpark. it missed, thankfully, but it would have caused serious damage if it had landed on her! what kind of parenting is it when they think its ok to throw lit fireworks at infants?

i remember two kids i used to babysit...the mother went apeshit at me when her son pulled the hose out and turned it...he was soaked. i had told him to turn it off....but he didnt listen. i mean...hes wet, who cares! chuck him in a bath and put some dry clothes on him. not the end of the world.

Waylander

31st October 2006, 20:00

Hell sun I'm not much older than you yet feel the same way.

i remember telling dad not to smack me cos id go to the cops.

I tried that once. He hit me so hard my ears rang the rest of the day then he handed me the phone and said, "Call them" Never made that threat again...

bane

31st October 2006, 20:11

"When I was a boy" some 15 to 20 years ago, we made our own fun with sports, BMXs, skateboards, model planes, go-karts...you name it

This one time, at bandcamp...

jrandom

31st October 2006, 20:12

He hit me so hard my ears rang the rest of the day...

[twitch]

"Public school? I should say. Head boy buggered me senseless for three years. Made me the man I am today."

[twitch]

Good thing you didn't get fucked up during childhood, dude. It could have resulted in a really sad-arse adult life.

Waylander

31st October 2006, 20:19

[twitch]

"Public school? I should say. Head boy buggered me senseless for three years. Made me the man I am today."

[twitch]

Good thing you didn't get fucked up during childhood, dude. It could have resulted in a really sad-arse adult life.
Huh?

If you're saying what I think you are saying then yea. The way my dad brought me up is why I think (and others tell me) I have such a level head about things. No pun intended.
He wasn't beating me for no reason, infact that time it was because I broke one of the nozzles on his truck tires trying to get the ants that were crawling on it off. Tire went flat and I think he had to get a new rim, so I deserved it along with most of the spankings and shit I got while growing up.

Mr. Peanut

31st October 2006, 20:28

I tried that once. He hit me so hard my ears rang the rest of the day then he handed me the phone and said, "Call them" Never made that threat again...

feel the love.

Sniper

31st October 2006, 20:36

Only in Blenheim. RIP Tom, you crazy bastard, you will be missed regardless of how you went.

To those who pass judgement, dont be so rash. Tom was a good kid when I knew him. He got mixed up with the wrong crowd at school and unfortunatly it ended really badly.

Parents, look after your kids, make sure you know whats going on in their lives. Support them, make sure they know you are there for them, even when they tell you to piss off.

RIP Tom, Ill find those crazy bastards soon

S

Balding Eagle

31st October 2006, 21:02

I have Volumes I II and III of the Darwin award books. They are so aptly named. Sorry for taking the hardline here but this death has probably solved some possible problems of the future. The death of anyone in their youth, is most often a trajedy that saddens me deeply. Sorry, not this time.:bye:

SlashWylde

31st October 2006, 21:10

Huh?

If you're saying what I think you are saying then yea. The way my dad brought me up is why I think (and others tell me) I have such a level head about things. No pun intended.
He wasn't beating me for no reason, infact that time it was because I broke one of the nozzles on his truck tires trying to get the ants that were crawling on it off. Tire went flat and I think he had to get a new rim, so I deserved it along with most of the spankings and shit I got while growing up.

As the comedian Russell Peters would say... "Parents, please beat your kids".

Waylander

31st October 2006, 21:12

As the comedian Russell Peters would say... "Parents, please beat your kids".
"Somebody gonna get a hurtin!!!"

scumdog

31st October 2006, 21:32

I cannot beleive that somebody who is not actually beeing kept alive with a heart - lung machine could be that frick'n dumb, sheeit I've met slaters with a bigger i.q.!!
At least he didn't breed - or ride a motorcycle!

marty

31st October 2006, 21:40

here's a vid of my 14 year old son with some mates while he was on exchange in germany a couple of months ago - try doing THIS at a pool in NZ - check out the author's other vids for more diving/crazyness while he was there....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P1Hi127Ziwo

Lou Girardin

1st November 2006, 05:55

The one saving grace is that someone that stupid couldn't figure out how to have sex and reproduce.
The next one to go is the amoeba brain doing a burout 'in memorium'.
How can anyone who doesn't know how to dress themselves get a licence?

1st November 2006, 07:30

Lets have a "harm minimisation" TV education campaign!

Just before cartoon shows, run ads showing cool looking kids sniffing various flammable inhalants - especially commonly available household ones.

Then show other kids arriving with cigarettes, electric heaters, hair driers and welding torches saying - "Gizasniff?" and then just before everything blows sky-high, give an "educational message". Cullen could use some of my money for that - yeah - cool.

Dooly

1st November 2006, 07:40

When I heard about it this morning it sounded like the media were getting set up to run with how dangerous it is to have LPG bottles in cars.....and I was thinking,now how can this be a problem when people have been doing it for decades without a problem.
.

Yep.

Got a call from a so called intelligent professional person who's car we have booked in for an LPG conversion today.
He was considering cancelling as he had heard about the death and assumed it was because of a fault with the LPG system on the car.
Did he check the story out, no.
I had to, and ring him back and settle his precious soul.

ManDownUnder

1st November 2006, 07:56

When I heard about it this morning it sounded like the media were getting set up to run with how dangerous it is to have LPG bottles in cars.....and I was thinking,now how can this be a problem when people have been doing it for decades without a problem.

Now we find out what really happened....phew,I can still jamb my bottle between the front and rear seats so it won't roll around.

I can't beleive how unbeleivable stupid this younger generation coming through now is......ok,it's natural to be somewhat thick at that age,but really.....

I blame computer games and PC bullshit.

No-one has a reason to fear pain anymore. They do something dumb in a game - they die, oh well.. try again

The do something dumb in real life they get a stern telling off (no yelling though - that's abusive).

Go figure

Paul in NZ

1st November 2006, 08:33

Yeah but guys - CAN LPG actually get you high?? (well apart from blowing your silly arse sky high)

Hitcher

1st November 2006, 08:47

Yeah but guys - CAN LPG actually get you high??

Yes it can. Like most other volatile hydrocarbons when inhaled or ingested, LPG/propane has an effect on the human central nervous system.

The_Dover

1st November 2006, 08:52

That would explain the sores on Hitchers face and the semi-glazed expression.....

lb99

1st November 2006, 09:04

:gob: I couldnt believe it, this happened in my street, albeit a couple of hundred meters up the road, WHY?, for the price of an LPG fill you could get a bottle of cheap booze, or even brought some weed (I'm not pushing that idea but surely its better than huffing)

what is going wrong with our kids?

Aggreed. It's only gonna get worse as housing becomes denser and the availability of outdoor play areas for kids becomes scarcer. Kids are growing up faster and are dependent on technology to entertain them.

Tell me about it, I have 4 small children aged 10-2, and I am despreatly looking for the perfect house to buy, but everything in our (or almost anyones price range) has been subdivided to 400m2 or less:angry: :angry: IE no outside living. Ask the realestate agents and they say "people don't want large sections anymore" WTF??? no one asked me.

I believe the local council should be taken to task for allowing this to happen.

anyway back to the topic, remember the girl who died riding down Baldwin st in Dunedin in a wheelie bin? well she was from Blenheim too

Hitcher

1st November 2006, 09:33

remember the girl who died riding down Baldwin st in Dunedin in a wheelie bin? well she was from Blenheim too

Blenheim to Dunedin, now that's a long way to go in a Wheeliebin. But if she had survived the Baldwin Street gig, she would have been a legend. The idea was brilliant. Successfully executing it was the issue.

Paul in NZ

1st November 2006, 09:37

Blenheim to Dunedin, now that's a long way to go in a Wheeliebin. But if she had survived the Baldwin Street gig, she would have been a legend. The idea was brilliant. Successfully executing it was the issue.

Nah - it was a rubbish idea and now she is a has bin.... (boom boom)

ManDownUnder

1st November 2006, 09:41

That would explain the sores on Hitchers face and the semi-glazed expression.....

na - thats from him licking the icing out of the bowl while the beater's still on...

ZeroIndex

1st November 2006, 09:54

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! So Darwin Awards..

lb99

1st November 2006, 09:56

Blenheim to Dunedin, now that's a long way to go in a Wheeliebin. But if she had survived the Baldwin Street gig, she would have been a legend. The idea was brilliant. Successfully executing it was the issue.

Have you ever been up baldwin st dude? try pillioning a chik up it on a pe175:Punk: :Punk:

The wheeliebin chick was wearing a helmet at least

Gremlin

1st November 2006, 09:59

Successfully executing it was the issue.
but it was a successful execution :dodge:

Paul in NZ

1st November 2006, 10:01

but it was a successful execution :dodge:

Oh dear - I think that trumped mine.....

Sniper

1st November 2006, 10:09

The one saving grace is that someone that stupid couldn't figure out how to have sex and reproduce.

He has a son Lou.

The_Dover

1st November 2006, 10:19

Have you ever been up baldwin st dude?

i drove up it in a toyota previa, thought the fuckin thing was gonna go over backwards.

definite evidence that dunedin was founded by the sweaties....

scumdog

1st November 2006, 10:31

He has a son Lou.

Is that some form of humour saying Lou is the son of the LPG sniffer, ergo is brain-dead???

Or is it worse, that you are telling Lou the sniffer has already sired a son!:gob:

lb99

1st November 2006, 10:37

i drove up it in a toyota previa, thought the fuckin thing was gonna go over backwards.

definite evidence that dunedin was founded by the sweaties....

Steep, innit?

I saw a Mini full of boys run out of power on the steepest bit, had to reverse down and do a starsky and hutch turn when they discovered that minis have shitty brakes in reverse...result, one mini on its roof.

fulton hogan relocated a house to the top...no shit, what an operation.

I delivered a load of sewer pipe to a building site at the very top, poor old truck almost ran outta puff in first gear:shit: :shit: , and you cant get a Totota toyoace up it in the rain with no load.

Sniper

1st November 2006, 10:41

Or is it worse, that you are telling Lou the sniffer has already sired a son!:gob:

He has(had??) a son with his ex.

Its amazing how funny it usually is, and how easy it is to pass judgement until it happens to someone you know. Bugger

Paul in NZ

1st November 2006, 10:43

He has a son Lou.

Jesus.... Sorry to be disrespectful Sniper but he has how old??? feckin hell - old enough to have a kid but not taking it seriously enough to not fry his brains on LPG...

Sniper

1st November 2006, 10:50

Jesus.... Sorry to be disrespectful Sniper but he has how old??? feckin hell - old enough to have a kid but not taking it seriously enough to not fry his brains on LPG...

Dont worry Paul, Im not in the habit of taking things personally. Im trying to stay away from this thread as Ive realised personal feelings can turn a thread ugly.

You are right, the kid was a result of a drunken night out. As I said earlier in the thread, he wasnt a bad kid, he just got mixed up in the wrong crowed and it influenced him enough to change and not realise he could do a lot better with his life.

scumdog

1st November 2006, 10:52

He has(had??) a son with his ex.

Its amazing how funny it usually is, and how easy it is to pass judgement until it happens to someone you know. Bugger

18, a son, an ex and a penchant for sniffing LPG inside a car with others inside it (whose mental capabilities have to be questioned too) and lighting a smoke afterwards, kinda paints a picture, don't it?

EDIT I'll remove my first and last comments and revert to just shaking my head in astonishment, the mind boggles...

Sniper

1st November 2006, 10:53

Sorry Scummy, didnt mean that you were passing judgement. Was a figure of speach

Jamezo

1st November 2006, 11:32

The interviews with friends were interesting:

"He always had a smile on his face" ..............I do wonder why?

sunhuntin

1st November 2006, 11:34

Yep.

Got a call from a so called intelligent professional person who's car we have booked in for an LPG conversion today.
He was considering cancelling as he had heard about the death and assumed it was because of a fault with the LPG system on the car.
Did he check the story out, no.
I had to, and ring him back and settle his precious soul.

just tell him not to let it run out....running out of lpg means a towie is needed, lol.

inlinefour

1st November 2006, 11:36

So how soon for the ban on LPG containers? Or maybe lighters?

They are too well used and very safe is used responsibly. Maybe we should ban teenagers Waylander? :mellow:

Hitcher

1st November 2006, 13:11

Let's face it, there are members of our community that are going to kill themselves by doing dumb shit, no matter what. Banning or restricting access to "dumb shit du jour" merely forces them to look elsewhere for terminal gratification, as evidenced by last weekend's Blenheim homies. As long as their final exit doesn't involve "innocent" bystanders, then we can wish for no more.

Waylander

1st November 2006, 16:38

They are too well used and very safe is used responsibly. Maybe we should ban teenagers Waylander? :mellow:Same with the baby fireworks that they are trying to ban at the moment.

Mom

1st November 2006, 16:42

survival of the fittest

survival of the smartest???

What a stupid thing to do......bet their folks are real proud of them eh?

Mom

1st November 2006, 16:44

Same with the baby fireworks that they are trying to ban at the moment.

At risk of taking this off topic.........my son (18) has no problem with small bang/pretty type fireworks........he simply disassembles them and creates bombs.......Grrrrrrrrrr

*edit........and yes I would nominate him for a darwin award if someone would tell me where....lol

Sniper

1st November 2006, 16:45

At risk of taking this off topic.........my son (18) has no problem with small bang/pretty type fireworks........he simply disassembles them and creates bombs.......Grrrrrrrrrr

Whats wrong with that? You should see the shit I can make with them :shit:

Your sone is perfectly safe. :shifty:

Waylander

1st November 2006, 16:46

At risk of taking this off topic.........my son (18) has no problem with small bang/pretty type fireworks........he simply disassembles them and creates bombs.......Grrrrrrrrrr

*edit........and yes I would nominate him for a darwin award if someone would tell me where....lol

Now, do you think that will stop when they ban them or that he will just find something else explosive, like an LPG container maybe.

Mom

1st November 2006, 16:48

Whats wrong with that? You should see the shit I can make with them :shit:

Your sone is perfectly safe. :shifty:

LOL.......it is the vids he makes of destroying letterboxes that sort of upset this Mom.......

and lets not go the "safe, I know what I am doing" thing.....sheesh......:lol:

Mom

1st November 2006, 16:51

Now, do you think that will stop when they ban them or that he will just find something else explosive, like an LPG container maybe.

Most probably stock up big time, and then use the internet to find the legal stuff to make bombs........God I make him sound like a terrorist.......lol......he's not.........he's male and 18.........and yeah yeah......should be out on a bike not making bombs

Sniper

1st November 2006, 16:52

LOL.......it is the vids he makes of destroying letterboxes that sort of upset this Mom.......

and lets not go the "safe, I know what I am doing" thing.....sheesh......:lol:

Hmm, the letterbox destroying thing annoys me. Where are the days that you could enjoy building things and then blowing them up, or destroying old microwaves, toasters and such?

Good on ya MOM :)

Most probably stock up big time, and then use the internet to find the legal stuff to make bombs........God I make him sound like a terrorist.......lol......he's not.........he's male and 18.........and yeah yeah......should be out on a bike not making bombs

Any healthy 18yr old should be doing stuff like that. Its called life experience. As long as he comes home in one peice its OK. At least you can be comforted with the thought that he is not on a street corner doped or pissed out of his mind, or racing hotted up cars around with no insurance

Mom

1st November 2006, 16:54

Hmm, the letterbox destroying thing annoys me. Where are the days that you could enjoy building things and then blowing them up, or destroying old microwaves, toasters and such?

Good on ya MOM :)

Shhhhhhhhh dont you dare tell..........I used to blow up letter boxes and other shit when I was a wee bit younger........LOL

Sniper

1st November 2006, 16:55

Shhhhhhhhh dont you dare tell..........I used to blow up letter boxes and other shit when I was a wee bit younger........LOL

Hehe, now you see where he gets it from.... And what do you mean used to?? I bet if you had a chance, you would do it all over again

Mom

1st November 2006, 17:00

who meeeeeeee???:innocent:
na I all grown up now

crashe

1st November 2006, 17:35

who meeeeeeee???:innocent:
na I all grown up now

Yeah right ...... another tui advert.........

inlinefour

1st November 2006, 19:46

Same with the baby fireworks that they are trying to ban at the moment.

They banned all the decient fire works years ago in NZ... :zzzz:

Skyryder

1st November 2006, 19:53

The guy was descibed in the Press by his friends as a 'primo guy.' Well they got that right.............he was primed alright.

Skyryder

Waylander

1st November 2006, 19:56

They banned all the decient fire works years ago in NZ... :zzzz:
Yes I sorta gathered that what with everyone telling me whenever I bring up fireworks lol.

Pixie

2nd November 2006, 12:29

Firstly, let me say that any death, especially that a young person is a tragedy, no matter what the circumstance. My thoughts and condolences go out to family and friends (that is not a PT).

However said circumstances I believe fit the criteria of the awards.

Five people in a car, sniffing LPG from a gas cylinder, one of them decides he needs a smoke.... oh dear...

This event raised the mean IQ of NZ.

We need more of it.

Pixie

2nd November 2006, 12:36

...well actually the govt is gearing up to eliminate smoking altogether. The plan is to progressively raise the price of tobacco and eventually replace name brand cigarette with a plain packaged variety, with distribution controlled by the state. .

Then the next step is to have the state stores and queues to buy bread.

This govt should be be put in a shipping container with a 90 kg LPG tank with a
leaking valve,and a running vacuum cleaner