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Chookah
2nd November 2006, 20:43
The requirements for a vehicle warrant are steadily becoming more stringent and pedantic.
The roads however are steadily falling apart and actual improvements are few and far between.(Well in my neck of the woods anyway and certainly so when I compare the improvements to roading in Aus to here over the last 10 years)

Since we are required at our own expense to maintain our vehicle to a certain government mandated standard then at least they should honour the deal by providing well maintained roads to drive the things on.

Would a warrant of fitness for roads by an independent body help to persuade them to keep up their end of the bargain?

AllanB
2nd November 2006, 20:57
Ha good idea - I'll vote for you.

Roads around Christchurch are crap - they were heaps better 20 years ago. I was over the West Coast (South Island) a few months ago (unfortunately in the car) man I tell you I am taking a day off pre Xmas and going for a zip over there, those roads are sweet, f-all traffic & fast. Might do the Christchurch - Arthurs Pass - Greymouth - Reefton - Springs Junction - Christchurch run. Coast to coast. Where else in the world can you do that in a day eh. Priceless.

merv
2nd November 2006, 21:03
Sharpen up you boys and buy a dirt bike and appreciate the roads.

I see us heading towards the cruise control era of boredom with so much road straightening, tarsealing and double yellow lines everywhere and the goddamn 80km/hr limits.

Bring back the windy gravel roads!!

sunhuntin
2nd November 2006, 21:05
yep, the local ones here [in town] are shit. one section, theres a huge gap in the road levels....get hooked up on one of those "snakes" and you go all over the show. theres white spray paint where the road is shit, which means more delays while crappy "repairs" are made.
i thought i had a flat goin to work oneday, when the whole bike started shaking and vibrating. i went back and had another look at the road next time round and its covered in little "judderbars" horrible!!

Chookah
2nd November 2006, 21:48
I moved here from Aus (Victoria/Tas) about 13 years ago and one of my first impressions was of the high standard of the road surfaces (and kind cambers).
Sadly since then bugger all seems to have been done to maintain that.

Another thing that impressed me was the lack of blood and guts "You are gunna die if you speed" advertising and instead there was Peter Brock doing instructive adds on braking and following distances which were never shown in Australia.

How that has all changed.

merv
2nd November 2006, 21:50
Yeah too much Aussie influence with the Govt looking to Victoria and the like for a lead. Shame about Brocky too even though he was one of yours he was a good bloke and as you say took a positive approach to training in his ads.

p.s. two trips ago to Tas we drove from Hobart to Strachan and I could see that would be biker heaven with so many curves on that road. Except for those first few straightish kms from town up by the Derwent it was brilliant. In NZ we sota go on flat plains then up an over a hill and onto flat again. over there it was just hilly and windy for about 200+ kms.

skidMark
2nd November 2006, 22:22
The requirements for a vehicle warrant are steadily becoming more stringent and pedantic.
The roads however are steadily falling apart and actual improvements are few and far between.(Well in my neck of the woods anyway and certainly so when I compare the improvements to roading in Aus to here over the last 10 years)

Since we are required at our own expense to maintain our vehicle to a certain government mandated standard then at least they should honour the deal by providing well maintained roads to drive the things on.

Would a warrant of fitness for roads by an independent body help to persuade them to keep up their end of the bargain?

bloodey southerners drink your speights and deal with it

Pixie
2nd November 2006, 22:33
The requirements for a vehicle warrant are steadily becoming more stringent and pedantic.
The roads however are steadily falling apart and actual improvements are few and far between.(Well in my neck of the woods anyway and certainly so when I compare the improvements to roading in Aus to here over the last 10 years)

Since we are required at our own expense to maintain our vehicle to a certain government mandated standard then at least they should honour the deal by providing well maintained roads to drive the things on.

Would a warrant of fitness for roads by an independent body help to persuade them to keep up their end of the bargain?

Transit are about to change the S.H.( state Highway) designation of NZ highways to S.G.T.
state goat track

slimjim
3rd November 2006, 07:07
what more fucking taxes to pay for this, aarr crap sack the cunt's who are thee boardmembers of transit, fuck if they can't do their job why, pay the pricks the money our goverment do,

Ixion
3rd November 2006, 08:14
I don't agree. On two levels.

Roads now are far "better" than they were when I was young. To the point where it has become hard to find a gravel road. Let alone anything resembling the pumice roads of the interior.

And the narrow , potholed, bumpy , off camber , winding back country roads have almost all disappeared also, replaced by smooth , well surfaced full width roads, with the corners straightened out.

Which is a BadThing. :cry: I LIKE narrow , potholed, bumpy , off camber , winding back country roads. :love: And gravel roads.

If motorcyclists want smooth straight boring roads, why then is SH22 so popular?

Stop complaining about what makes the roads interesting to ride on.

Drum
3rd November 2006, 08:25
Transit and Local Councils would happily maintain their roads (and other assets) to the exacting high standards that the public desires.

But is the public prepared to pay for it? I suspect not.

Roads are maintained over a design life cycle. Towards the end of that cycle the road condition is not as good as it was at the start. Fact of life. The length of the cycle could be shorter - but users would have to pay for it.

The Pastor
3rd November 2006, 15:30
I don't agree. On two levels.

Roads now are far "better" than they were when I was young. To the point where it has become hard to find a gravel road. Let alone anything resembling the pumice roads of the interior.

And the narrow , potholed, bumpy , off camber , winding back country roads have almost all disappeared also, replaced by smooth , well surfaced full width roads, with the corners straightened out.

Which is a BadThing. :cry: I LIKE narrow , potholed, bumpy , off camber , winding back country roads. :love: And gravel roads.

If motorcyclists want smooth straight boring roads, why then is SH22 so popular?

Stop complaining about what makes the roads interesting to ride on.



Couldnt agree more. I think NZ roads are awesome.

Motu
3rd November 2006, 16:07
I don't agree. On two levels.

Roads now are far "better" than they were when I was young.

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Remember Pah Rd? And that was in a posh part of Auckland.The condition of our roads has vastly improved over the years,I don't see anything going backwards at all,apart from the constant roadworks....to many cars and trucks on them giving them a hard time.But nothing any of my vehicles or myself can't cope with.

If everything is perfect just for you,how will you cope when you come across the unexpected?

Bonez
4th November 2006, 15:19
Revert back too gravel I say. It will slow down down traffic, create jobs(more mechanics, glass repairers and panel beaters), and increase the number of folks at your local drinking establishments/churchs (put your favourate place of worship here)................

topher
4th November 2006, 20:25
I don't agree. On two levels.

Roads now are far "better" than they were when I was young. To the point where it has become hard to find a gravel road. Let alone anything resembling the pumice roads of the interior.

And the narrow , potholed, bumpy , off camber , winding back country roads have almost all disappeared also, replaced by smooth , well surfaced full width roads, with the corners straightened out.

Which is a BadThing. :cry: I LIKE narrow , potholed, bumpy , off camber , winding back country roads. :love: And gravel roads.

If motorcyclists want smooth straight boring roads, why then is SH22 so popular?

Stop complaining about what makes the roads interesting to ride on.

Yep. Give me a challenging road any old day. Not much challenge in going flat out on a straight road.