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ninjac
2nd November 2006, 21:21
Damn!!! 2007 Honda 800cc RC212V's one ugly bike. I hate the rear. Front and intakes very similar to K1 GSXR's. Fuel bladder under seat.
What do you think?

merv
2nd November 2006, 21:23
If it wins next year's championship I'll be happy with it. The rear end does seem a bit weird, maybe Doohan is advising them at HRC because he always liked to change a few things just to psych his opponents.

A couple of links here:

http://www.roadracingworld.com/news/article/?article=27508

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FMKKmhLfCYs

Sounds more like a 2 stroke than a V4 4 stroke. The Duc is similar, the smaller engine a lot higher pitched than the 990 was.

Yeah what's with the funny seat and rear end, was Eric Buell right all along with design?

MattRSK
2nd November 2006, 21:25
<img src="http://moto.caradisiac.com/IMG/jpg/rc.jpg">

The_Dover
2nd November 2006, 21:28
where's the pillion seat?

Ivan
2nd November 2006, 21:30
its awsome and will win aghain next year

SuperDave
2nd November 2006, 21:40
Who cares what it looks like, as long as it goes hard thats all that matters really.

gav
2nd November 2006, 21:44
Not sure how Ducati managed this, maybe its just the angle of the photo, but Casey Stoner on the Ducati 800.....jeez this thing looks shocking!! :sick:
Also rumour has it that Casey will race the bike like this, as the team have decided the extra cost in painting fairings for him is going to be way to high!!
Maybe they are just saving fitting bodywork until Casey has settled into the bike?

Ivan
2nd November 2006, 21:53
cassey looks comfy on it, it looks like a 125 or 250gp bike riding style something he was good at

McJim
2nd November 2006, 22:36
Since the racers don't require anything behind their arse what has been the point of the little bit that gets used as a pillion seat on the road going replicas anyway?

I think it's a good move - losing a bit of useless surplus weight.

Korea
2nd November 2006, 22:38
I'd have one... (once I get me millions that is...)

As for the Duc ~ let's hope Stoner can keep the front end from washing out and keep the bike on the track.
How many offs was it for him in 2006? How is he still in MotoGP? How is he riding for Ducati???

Maybe the new bike will be more suited to his riding style...

kiwifruit
2nd November 2006, 22:55
looks fuckin awesome

skelstar
2nd November 2006, 22:59
Love it...looks futuristic/progressive.

Gremlin
2nd November 2006, 23:26
looks like an oversized pocket bike... goddamn... when will they realise that some of us are 6 foot plus??

and its ugly... just as the icing on the cake.

skelstar
3rd November 2006, 08:21
when will they realise that some of us are 6 foot plus??
Umm....because its a race bike and not a road bike?

emaN
3rd November 2006, 08:54
hmmm, not sure about that tail unit, or lack of.
like the new Triple, it looks too "streetfighter-ish".

If Ducati keep it black, Casey's gonna need a black bogun get-up...

That youtube clip makes ya realise how much happens away from the spotlight

Crasherfromwayback
3rd November 2006, 09:08
I'd have one... (once I get me millions that is...)

As for the Duc ~ let's hope Stoner can keep the front end from washing out and keep the bike on the track.
How many offs was it for him in 2006? How is he still in MotoGP? How is he riding for Ducati???

Maybe the new bike will be more suited to his riding style...

Mate....Casey Stoner will be running at the front more often than not next year. As Mick Doohan said....you can teach fast guys to stop crashing...but you can't make slow guys fast. As long as he doesn't hurt himself in the process....he'll be one to watch soon enough.

The_Dover
3rd November 2006, 09:10
Mate....Casey Stoner will be running at the front more often than not next year. As Mick Doohan said....you can teach fast guys to stop crashing...but you can't make slow guys fast. As long as he doesn't hurt himself in the process....he'll be one to watch soon enough.

can you teach slow guys to stop crashing? or am I fucked?

Deano
3rd November 2006, 09:26
... goddamn... when will they realise that some of us are 6 foot plus??



Like you'll be riding one ?

Crasherfromwayback
3rd November 2006, 09:48
can you teach slow guys to stop crashing? or am I fucked?

I guess so mate....but I'm hardly a good teacher or example!

twinshock750
3rd November 2006, 12:15
RE Stoner crashing and why has he still got as ride.

Simple really, most good team managers know you can make fast, but sometimes crash prone rider stay on, but you can't ever make a slow but stable rider fast....

Crasherfromwayback
3rd November 2006, 12:20
RE Stoner crashing and why has he still got as ride.

Simple really, most good team managers know you can make fast, but sometimes crash prone rider stay on, but you can't ever make a slow but stable rider fast....

Similar to what I said at the top of the page then yeah?:scooter:

The_Dover
3rd November 2006, 12:20
is there an echo in here??

Tim 39
3rd November 2006, 17:47
eeewwwwwwwww they don't look too good! the ducati would have to be the worst, I duno whats up with the new idea they have come up with for the tail because if anything it LESS aerodynamic! and ugly!
but yeah in 3 months we'll probably be saying how cool these things look!

James Deuce
3rd November 2006, 18:23
Since the racers don't require anything behind their arse what has been the point of the little bit that gets used as a pillion seat on the road going replicas anyway?


Aerodynamics. The 500s and mid to late '90s 250s had quite a bulbous rear behind the rider to smooth the flow of air spilling off the bike and rider at high speed and to push it further behind the bike before it broke off into a turbulent wall of air that the bike then had to tow. This effect gets worse the faster you go, and this is what prevented early jet aircraft like the Convair F102 from breaking the speed of sound. Then someone read some captured WW2 German data on the "Whitcomb area rule" and the classic "coke bottle" fuselage cross section was born. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whitcomb_area_rule

I've been reading my old texts, and Honda look like they've resurrected a cunning plan from the 1950's era of jets.

The drag from the bike's front and the rider will be forced into a vortex by the tip of the rear seat unit that will be pushed off by the lip on the rear tyre hugger. The wall of air will be below the centre of mass of the bike when it breaks away and directed downward. If I read that section right that is. This will create downforce on the unsprung mass (wheel and swingarm assembly) but not the rear body work, thereby ensuring the nose stays firmly planted at 300km/hr and rear wheel has plenty of grip and is less likely to spin at high speeds.

NIce.

Crasherfromwayback
3rd November 2006, 18:54
Aerodynamics.
NIce.

Jesus Christ mate.....get a job on one of the teams!:rockon:

Korea
3rd November 2006, 19:15
Mate....Casey Stoner will be running at the front more often than not next year. As Mick Doohan said....you can teach fast guys to stop crashing...but you can't make slow guys fast. As long as he doesn't hurt himself in the process....he'll be one to watch soon enough.

No doubt he will. I'm under no illusion that the boy isn't a spritely, quick bugger, because he's been qualifying with the 'big kids' and finished around the top 5 throughout season, particularly at the start before getting into the habit of biffing it. High points include 6th at Jerez, 5th at Qatar, and 2nd at Turkey. Also 5th in China...

Stoner and Pedrosa were both new to MotoGP this year, however Pedrosa took to the RCV like a duck to water and was awarded 'Rookie of the Year'. Meanwhile, Stoner it seems never really came to grips (sic) with the RCV's front end, losing it several times throughout the championship.

Low-lights: Mugello - Highside, Catlunya - front end tuck, Sachsenring - crash during w/up; unfit to race, Laguna - lost the front, Motegi - crashed, Estoril - high-side, Valencia - (cameraman didn't even bother to show us) crashed...

But I think he will go off on the Ducati with the promise of higher corner speeds and low engine inertia inherent in the Desmo design. Oh yes... it will be good~ :niceone:

Crasherfromwayback
3rd November 2006, 19:25
[QUOTE=Korea;811568
But I think he will go off on the Ducati with the promise of higher corner speeds and low engine inertia inherent in the Desmo design. Oh yes... it will be good~ :niceone:[/QUOTE]

Yeah mate...the latest 'all in' test with all of the factory 800's and he was quicker than Capirossi......with no biffs!
Bring on next season! You just know that Rossi won't want to retire from bikes unless he's on top.....Pedrosa will want to start off in front of Nicky...I really think the Suzuki is coming of age....Melandri an Elias have points to prove...wish it was starting this weekend!:Punk:

twinshock750
3rd November 2006, 22:32
re the echo, so I didn't haver my glasses on and I had a custard pie in one hand and the mouse in the other....

James Deuce
3rd November 2006, 22:57
That was no mouse. I don't think it was custard either.

twinshock750
4th November 2006, 15:04
Okay, got me there, I twinked it out on the screen and I can't work out why it still came up when I hit reply....

Maido
4th November 2006, 15:43
I wonder if Pedrosa will finally be able to touch the ground while on the seat?

sAsLEX
4th November 2006, 16:15
I wonder if Pedrosa will finally be able to touch the ground while on the seat?

He can just keep his little wooden box he used in Australia :yes:

Rossi Gal
5th November 2006, 16:23
where's the pillion seat?

Who the hell wants a pillion seat anyways??!!


Damn!!! 2007 Honda 800cc RC212V's one ugly bike. I hate the rear.
What do you think?

looks like the the pit-bull of bikes

Flyno
10th November 2006, 20:30
I agree with the tail section liiking ugly! but that aint the point, the point is if it works it's good enough to look ugly:whocares:
And yeah that almost sounds like a two stroke!

nsrpaul
10th November 2006, 20:43
its ugly!!!!!!!!!!!!!

boomer
10th November 2006, 21:03
Lovin the sound and it looks like the Buells(XB's) in shape & size. Gotta love seeing all the other pit crew sneakin a peak and grabbin a few pics! :third:

I like ya thinking Jim2.. very clever.



looks like an oversized pocket bike... goddamn... when will they realise that some of us are 6 foot plus??

I'll give Satoru Horiike your feedback mate.


and its ugly... just as the icing on the cake.

From a kwak rider :confused:

gav
10th November 2006, 23:16
Looking pretty good from here! :Punk:

sAsLEX
11th November 2006, 08:47
Looking pretty good from here! :Punk:

Pretty quick with the 1!

Thought he would of kept 69 as he's been under that number for a while now, and just done similar to Rossi and had the 1 on his leathers, save changing back to 69 end of next season......

nsrpaul
11th November 2006, 09:03
save changing back to 69 end of next season......

nice:rockon: