Revenue gathering or road safety ???

[kevie]

And first prize goes to :first: the :Police: police revenuegathering department who have come up with the classic now.

they have been running hidden camera surveilence in the manawatu gorge and snapping anyone that crosses the double yellows including trucks that almost need to on a coupe corners.
they claim that this is in the interests of road safety (ca see a good Tui advert here)
if you go through the gorge .... look at the results of the revenue gathering exercise ...... the damage to the armco from the trucks that have rounded a couple of the corners without crossing the centreline ...... sheesh ... whatever these legal bigwigs are smokin :doobey: when they come up with these supposed road safety ideas ................ I dont wanna smoke it too lmao
So to anyone that uses the gorge ....... be aware .... big dobbysmokin big brother is watching you

[terbang]

If I was a policeman I would be very opposed to speed/surveillance cameras of any sort as they could eventually do me out of a job. Bit like those pilot-less planes..!

[Skyryder]

I have no problem with anyone getting and offence notice crossing a yellow line, no matter how the offence is evidenced. Those of us who have been riding for some time either know or have heard of a biker getting wiped because some fool has crossed the centre line. Now just think about this guys before going off at the deep end.

Skyryder

[sanchez]

I think this is a far better idea than speed cameras (apart from the truck bit). If they cannot get down without crossing the line then trucks should not be allowed down the road (risking the safety of oncoming traffic) until it is fixed.

[Kickaha]

And first prize goes to :first: the :Police: police revenuegathering department who have come up with the classic now.

they have been running hidden camera surveilence in the manawatu gorge and snapping anyone that crosses the double yellows

Fucking good on them, if you have to cross the centre line to make a corner you dont deserve to be on the road

[WINJA]

Fair Enough With The Trucks Really , Those Cunts Need To Be Sorted Out ,i Think The Pigs Should Target Farmers For There Next Blitz, No Reg No Warrant No Helmet On Public Roads Etc

[MSTRS]

Another thread on this somewhere....but as much as it is a good idea on paper, in reality it is another crock of shit. The dickwads setup their stings on corners that are NOT A PROBLEM (ie full visibility throughout the manoeuvre) whilst ignoring the corners that are actually dangerous. They know they will catch few doing this on such blind corners. Tis the same as their speed traps on passing lanes....

[thehollowmen]

Fucking good on them, if you have to cross the centre line to make a corner you dont deserve to be on the road

There is a spot up on the port hills where the left hand lane is thinner than my bike. Most of the lanes up there are thinner than a car, but when it comes to thinner than a bike it is just stupid, because nobody can't cross the center line. If what you say holds true, then cyclists would be the only ones allowed on the road.

I'll head up and take a picture some time

[Beemer]

This has been done to death since I first posted it when it appeared in the paper recently: http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=38259&highlight=beemer

[rok-the-boat]

Of course the cops are just an extension of the tax-man's arm. Such was admitted earlier this year in NZ was it not. Police are supposed to provide a service - that is why we pay taxes. They should not be expected to raise 'taxes' to justify their existence. If the police did a good job there would be no crime and none of these stupid 'taxes', yet no one would consider firing them all. These days, it seems as though if a cop earns $200 a day, he has to go out and recuperate it in 'taxes' - a bloody stupid bureaucratic trend if you ask me. Police should not have to pay for themselves.

If they applied the same policy to soldiers you'd soon find your self conscripted off to Iraq to get a share of the oil, would you not?

[oldrider]

I think failure to keep left is the biggest problem on the road today, not speeding!
Unless the two are combined, then it is dangerous driving! John.

[Pixie]

There is a spot up on the port hills where the left hand lane is thinner than my bike. Most of the lanes up there are thinner than a car, but when it comes to thinner than a bike it is just stupid, because nobody can't cross the center line. If what you say holds true, then cyclists would be the only ones allowed on the road.

I'll head up and take a picture some time

I thought that when a road narrowed beyond a limit centerlines where no longer used and the road became one lane.
They should have these cameras on every corner

[pervert]

i Think The Pigs Should Target Farmers For There Next Blitz, No Reg No Warrant No Helmet On Public Roads Etc


Oh yeah, they are real badasses doing that and causing such a problem driving those empty roads only endagering themselves...

Do you get sick of pushing the shift key at the start of every word?

[craigs288]

Someone who is willing to be a mole and become a cop to infiltrate the system. That way they can come out with the information first hand, as to whether pressure is applied for them to achieve a certain amount of infringement notices, or whether it is a crock of shit.

I suspect it is the former, rather than the latter.
Based solely on the fact that I never seem to see any policemen with cameras in dangerous winding roads where you can never get above the speed limit without crashing off the road.

Like Scenic Drive. A large section of the road is open road, but is full of 35, 45 and 55kmh corners where you can't go 111kmh and get a ticket. (in between corners you can). But wait, no sign of a policeman with a camera to give me a ticket in the interests of road safety.

My version of road safety.

1. How much of the road I can see, and the condition of the surface determines my speed and where I place my motorcycle on the road, i.e. self-preservation.

2. Are there cagers in my field of view that I need to avoid, regardless of whether they have seen me, and regardless of what they are doing, i.e. self-preservation.

3. Secondary to my speed-based-on-road/weather-conditions theory (rule 1.), is my "is there a policeman hiding around the corner 'in-the-interests-of-road-safety'" theory. Which is more of an instinct.

[The Stranger]

And first prize goes to :first: the :Police: police revenuegathering department who have come up with the classic now.

they have been running hidden camera surveilence in the manawatu gorge and snapping anyone that crosses the double yellows including trucks that almost need to on a coupe corners.
they claim that this is in the interests of road safety (ca see a good Tui advert here)


Last time I checked the road code, and here (http://www.landtransport.govt.nz/roadcode/key-driving-skills/passing3.html) yellow lines relate to overtaking.

So are the trucks overtaking on corners with yellow lines?
If so hang the bastards high I say.
If not, what are they being charged with?

[pervert]

Last time I checked the road code, and here (http://www.landtransport.govt.nz/roadcode/key-driving-skills/passing3.html) yellow lines relate to overtaking.

So are the trucks overtaking on corners with yellow lines?
If so hang the bastards high I say.
If not, what are they being charged with?

You should have probably read the page you site as your information first.

Yellow lines mean you are not allowed to cross those lines for any reason at all.

You can still overtake, provided you don't cross the yellow lines.

Read the page you referenced for proof.

They are being charged with crossing the yellow lines.

I'm impressed at your ability to disprove your own theory without knowing it...hahaha...

[Paul in NZ]

I don't have a problem with that....

I remember going for a fang around the port hills one evening and missing a tour bus by inches because the god damn thing was so long it could not get around the corners without taking up 1 and a half lanes. I made a complaint - no one cared.... IMHP It's pure commercial greed taking a monster like that up there and grossly irresponsible. Yes we need tourisim but that is a very narrow road and a mini coach / small bus is all it will take.

The trucking companies are always trying to get permission for bigger trucks and yet the damn things are so big already most of them struggle on those roads. These guys need to understand this is NOT the Outback of Aussie or the Midwestern USA - we don't have the roads to support these monsters.

If your vehicle cannot pass over a stretch of road without crossing the centre line or taking out the armco - make 2 trips in a smaller one FFS....

Paul N

[The Stranger]

You should have probably read the page you site as your information first.

Yellow lines mean you are not allowed to cross those lines for any reason at all.

You can still overtake, provided you don't cross the yellow lines.

Read the page you referenced for proof.

They are being charged with crossing the yellow lines.

I wasn't citing the page as proof per se. The road code is of course not law. I was more enquiring as to the law.

The page heading is "Passing" and I had for some strange reason thought that the heading had set the context of the text to follow.

The only place I see the reference to where you may not cross the line is next to an image describing where you may and may not pass.

I see references to the likes of
"it is unsafe to cross the centre line to pass" it doesn't say "it is unsafe to cross the centre line at all ever"
and
"This solid yellow line is called a 'no passing' line." note it is not called a "no crossing at any time line"
and
"You must not pass another vehicle if it means you have to cross over a no passing line on your side of the centre line.

Please accept my humble appologies for my incompetent interpretation of the english language.

[steved]

Last time I checked the road code, and here (http://www.landtransport.govt.nz/roadcode/key-driving-skills/passing3.html) yellow lines relate to overtaking.

So are the trucks overtaking on corners with yellow lines?
If so hang the bastards high I say.
If not, what are they being charged with?
Crossing the centre-line maybe?

[SPman]

" You must not cross the solid yellow line between C - D."

[The Stranger]

" You must not cross the solid yellow line between C - D."

That kind of really fucks things up then.
Cause I see hundreds of people break this law regularly by turning into driveways and entrances across yellow lines. Watch out if this one is ever enforced, you will get people driving to the end of the yellow line and pulling a U turn instead.

[WINJA]

Oh yeah, they are real badasses doing that and causing such a problem driving those empty roads only endagering themselves...

Do you get sick of pushing the shift key at the start of every word?

ITS NOT ABOUT BEING A BAD ASS BUT FARMERS CAUSE A LOT OF HAZARDS ON THE ROADS AROUND HERE AND THEY CANT EVEN BE *555ED CAUSE THEY GOT NO NUMBER PLATES , ID RATHER SEE PIGS TARGETING FARMERS THAN PICKING ON BOYRACERS AT 2AM IN AN INDUSTRIAL AREA

[kevie]

heheheh talking about passing in the gorge ..... a car passed another last week in the gorge on double yellows , the driver of the passed car watched him as he also cut the corner crossing the yellows a further 8 times .,....... unfortunately for the offending driver .... the passed vehicle was a mufty cop hahahhahahahahaah ooohhhhhhhh bugger

[MSTRS]

And each time a separate offence. Oh dear. Hope the cop did him for the max

[The Stranger]

That kind of really fucks things up then.
Cause I see hundreds of people break this law regularly by turning into driveways and entrances across yellow lines. Watch out if this one is ever enforced, you will get people driving to the end of the yellow line and pulling a U turn instead.

What happens on roads like Royal View in Te Atatu Sth and (if my memory serves correctly) Don Buck in Henderson which have double yellow lines.
When a car parks on Royal View it is not possible for another car to go passed the parked car without crossing the yellow line.