How to convince dad.

[quallman1234]

Hey guys how da hell do i convince my dad to allow me to have a road bike, he's wanting me too get a dual purpose bike (Trial,road) what isnt too bad but i really would like a FXR150 Grr.

Any ideas? :scooter:

[gamgee]

my dad was the same, but then I told him how proper road bikes were better, due to better brakes, road specific rubber, and handling characteristics, just get a road bike, then get a dirt bike as well rather than something thats shit on the road and shit on the dirty stuff

[The Big J]

have him test ride one.

[quallman1234]

have him test ride one.
He's ridden my uncle's road bike's before but that was a 650 and 750.
Ill try the proper thing :P.
Any other advice?
My dad's used to have a TS250 back in the old days and used to ride it too work. (Mum had a TS125 and did the same thing).

[The Big J]

Is this the kind of thing like where my Dad wants me to have a bike so he can borrow it? If he's got his heart set on some adventure riding the decision might already be made!
Good luck, let us know what you end up with. Sorry I don't have more pearls of wisdom. I'll go to bed and maybe things will have changed by morning...

[avgas]

How about a motard? dual sports? I had the same delemma many years ago when i had a ts185 and my mate had a fxr.

Top speed:
ts - 120
fxr - 145 (or 150 with a long down hill)

he had the better grip, but i had better acceleration (stroker).
So how about something off road that you could sneak the plates onto? worked for me

[quallman1234]

Is this the kind of thing like where my Dad wants me to have a bike so he can borrow it? If he's got his heart set on some adventure riding the decision might already be made!
Good luck, let us know what you end up with. Sorry I don't have more pearls of wisdom. I'll go to bed and maybe things will have changed by morning...
Nah i dobut it :P, Yer ill probably get a dual purpose bike :(.

[Ixion]

What is actually wrong with a dual purpose? Something like the XT225 Yamaha f'instance. Effective top speed would be not much less than an FXR150, acceleration maybe better, no fairings to smash, and the added advantage of being able to play on gravel or dirt.

Or the two smoker duallies, a TS185 or DT175. Should eat an FXR150, and lovely two stroke smoke as well.

EDIT If you ahd the money, a DT230 would give almost any 250 a run for its money in road trim.

[quallman1234]

What is actually wrong with a dual purpose? Something like the XT225 Yamaha f'instance. Effective top speed would be not much less than an FXR150, acceleration maybe better, no fairings to smash, and the added advantage of being able to play on gravel or dirt.

Or the two smoker duallies, a TS185 or DT175. Should eat an FXR150, and lovely two stroke smoke as well.

EDIT If you ahd the money, a DT230 would give almost any 250 a run for its money in road trim.
I guess it aint all that bad :), ive had a look at a DT175 (a older one, it was a piece of crap but im sure the newer one's are great), i dont even think dad will let me have a 250 :(.

Oh well i guess ill see what happens

[xwhatsit]

Two-stroke smoke is the shit, I'll tell you that. On my one and only KB ride I had the pleasure of having some guy (was it Rusty? A name that just popped into my head) scream past on a two-stroke 250 sportsbike... turning into a corner he blipped the throttle and lots of oily goodness came out the back.

I can understand the need for a roadbike though... no offence to offroad riders who ride on road, but it's always struck me as slightly funny looking when you see them at traffic lights. Looks like a too-tall teenager in early highschool who's grown too big for their muscles. Only the BMW offroads seem to look like they belong on the road.

[Ghost Lemur]

As Ixion says what's wrong with dualsport?

You can commute, have fun in the gravel and dependant on choice get into some serious weekend offroading. All in one bike.

Something like the DT230 you wouldn't find the limits of. 2 stroke, 40hp. More than able to hold it's own on the road while also being strong enough for the serious trail.

The other benefit is when you drop it you wont have a hefty repair bill. You can do you young and crazy stuff (jumps, wheelies, stoppies, etc) off road away from cars , and dirt hurts a lot less than tar.

It doesn't stop you from ever getting a road bike. But see some positives.

Hell I wish my parents would have been supportive of me getting any sort of motorcycle at your age.

Just my $0.02

Then again owning a CRM I'm not exactly impartial on the dualsport subject. :Punk:

[quallman1234]

Looks like its a dual sport then :), i know dad likes the looks of the NXR125's :), tho i wouldnt mind something a little more powerful hehe.
p.s nothings wrong with dual's :).

Cheers Guys.

[Mr. Peanut]

I've got something rather powerful, and I get off on scooters. I'd love an NXR.

Good luck :2thumbsup

[Hawkeye]

Hey guys how da hell do i convince my dad to allow me to have a road bike, he's wanting me too get a dual purpose bike (Trial,road) what isnt too bad but i really would like a FXR150 Grr.

Any ideas? :scooter:


Question: Who is going to buy the bike. You or your Dad?

If the Answer is your Dad, then get over it. I'm sure there are a number of people on here that currently have no bike and would love someone to buy/give them one in any condition/style/year model etc.

If the answer is you, then you obviously need to put your case. ie you are buying it so you want to get the model you want.

Good luck with the options available.

[The_Dover]

Tell him you want a Husqvarna TE250 with motard rims.

[jrandom]

FXR150s are boring. Dualsport type bikes are great fun. What do you want an FXR for, anyway? If you're bigger than about 5'2" and weigh more than 55kg, you'll look silly on it.

FXRs are great for people who already know all that, and prefer one to a scooter as a transport appliance. The little 150 four-stroke single is totally sweet.

Anyway. Just buy a DT230, like the people said. If you're not going to take it offroad, put road tyres on. Motard!

[wildpudding]

Just do what I did and dont listen to the parents, save up some $, and go out and buy whatever bike you want anyway. Typical teenage "I can do what I like" attitude. Got an FXR as my first bike, and reckon it was good as for what it is.

Stefan

[jrandom]

Got an FXR as my first bike...

Me too.

With counselling, I've been able to stop trying to convince myself that it was a smart idea.

[bert_is_evil]

Is he paying for it? If so then you should get whatever he wants to buy you.

[lukelin250]

:rockon: dont listen to your parents do what you gotta do thats what makes a man. most parents dont want there kids getting bikes but deep down theyll respect you for it,, and even harbour a lil jealousy that they dont have one heehhe

[quallman1234]

Hey, thanks for the ideas guys :).
Uhmm me and dad are going 50/50 on it but its taking so long for him to decide what type too get that ive been tempted just too go out there and buy one :).
A DT230 sounds great ill see what i can do :).
Now that i think about it a dual sport is a good idea :D.

Cheers for changing my mind, oh and im not a spoort little brat if u got that idea :yes: .

Cheers.

[lukelin250]

Cheers for changing my mind, oh and im not a spoort little brat if u got that idea :yes: .

Cheers.

maybe not, but youll be doing the dishes and cleaning your room for awhile :yes:

[quallman1234]

maybe not, but youll be doing the dishes and cleaning your room for awhile :yes:

:dodge: :yes:

[Roj]

Cheers for changing my mind, oh and im not a spoort little brat if u got that idea :yes: .

Cheers.

you changed your own mind... what was offered was some good advise and some opinions, the most amazing thing is that there is a young person who will listen to it.

The dual purpose bikes can very good to learn on by using them off road where there are no cars, once you get your bike let us know, and see if you can find a mentor in your area to get you started in the right direction

and if you want a really methodical view on learning to ride try reading BuckBuckNo1's thread:

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=30010


Good luck with the future riding

[Ghost Lemur]

There's a fair amount of Dualsporters in Wellington, so once you're licenced with bike. Get out there and join them. You'll learn bucket loads, and much quicker than riding by yourself.

Has the added benefit of being able to tap those decades worth of experience while your out there doing it.

What's your combined bike budget? Also don't forget a gear budget.

[quallman1234]

There's a fair amount of Dualsporters in Wellington, so once you're licenced with bike. Get out there and join them. You'll learn bucket loads, and much quicker than riding by yourself.

Has the added benefit of being able to tap those decades worth of experience while your out there doing it.

What's your combined bike budget? Also don't forget a gear budget.
Probably around the 2.5 - 3k mark not a great deal of money but not bad for a 16 year old, i think i could probably pick up a 04 NXR125 for about 2-2.5k then 500hundred for other stuff

[crashe]

Probably around the 2.5 - 3k mark not a great deal of money but not bad for a 16 year old, i think i could probably pick up a 04 NXR125 for about 2-2.5k then 500hundred for other stuff

Buy a brand new helmet. They can start from $150 upwards and make sure that it fits securely.
Do NOT use a second hand helmet.
Gloves - about $40 to $60 good cheap ones.
Boots - go to the warehouse and buy those pull on ones to at least start out until you can get better quality stuff.
Jacket - check out bike shops for make, brand and size and then perruse Trade Me for the bargin.
Bike Pants - as above re jacket.


Or put in your order for christmas pressie stuff from the family to help you get bike gear.

Now once you have got the bike and gear...... start putting aside money for petrol and general maintainence.
You need to have chain lube and oil for the engine for regular oil changes.
Long term maintainence stuff to buy: chain, sprockets, tyres.

Anything you aint sure about when doing stuff on your bike, come on in to the forums and start a thread and ask away. Someone on here will be able to help you out. No question is silly.

Take it easy out there when you get on your bike.

[quallman1234]

Buy a brand new helmet. They can start from $150 upwards and make sure that it fits securely.
Do NOT use a second hand helmet.
Gloves - about $40 to $60 good cheap ones.
Boots - go to the warehouse and buy those pull on ones to at least start out until you can get better quality stuff.
Jacket - check out bike shops for make, brand and size and then perruse Trade Me for the bargin.
Bike Pants - as above re jacket.




Or put in your order for christmas pressie stuff from the family to help you get bike gear.

Now once you have got the bike and gear...... start putting aside money for petrol and general maintainence.
You need to have chain lube and oil for the engine for regular oil changes.
Long term maintainence stuff to buy: chain, sprockets, tyres.

Anything you aint sure about when doing stuff on your bike, come on in to the forums and start a thread and ask away. Someone on here will be able to help you out. No question is silly.

Take it easy out there when you get on your bike.


Thanks heaps :D.
I bought my road code today and already have a helment :).
Hopefully going for my learners on thursday :yes: .

[lukelin250]

your a good lil battler

[carver]

just take what your given...otherwise he may shy away from sorting you out all together.
NXR's rule man, zero index borrowed my one-pm him for what he thinks.:rockon:

[ynot slow]

shit with that title above i sound like my dad,but when i was 17 and after a year working i had enough money for a bike,as we lived on 2 acres just out a town the local neighbours had dt125,ts185,we had fun in the paddocks,roads,so i asked the folks,"only if it's under 100cc" dads reply,i was looking at suzi ts80 to go to work and play,ended up with a ts185,got my licence,and had fun,then along the way had xr200 brilliant model 1980,swapped it for an it175 premix 2scrotem,could fly but unreliable,basically yz motox bike on road,had a mate who had an it250frame put a yz 400 motor in it and passed his restricted with it,never got pulled up for oversize motor,mind you that was 20yrs ago.:rockon:

[Guitana]

Well my freind you have to ride this machine you have to choose the best bike for the style of riding you're into. You're just lucky you dont have a wife that when you tell her you're buying a bike says - Do whatever the Hell you like!!! but after you buy it, you discover do whatever the Hell you like in woman speak really means if you buy it I'm leaving!!!! I need to get a proper womans dictionary but the bikes here to stay!!!!

[Roj]

Well my freind you have to ride this machine you have to choose the best bike for the style of riding you're into. You're just lucky you dont have a wife that when you tell her you're buying a bike says - Do whatever the Hell you like!!! but after you buy it, you discover do whatever the Hell you like in woman speak really means if you buy it I'm leaving!!!! I need to get a proper womans dictionary but the bikes here to stay!!!!


I wouldn't bother with that dictionary, the only rule you need to know is:

The woman makes the rules, if a man finds out all the rules she will change them:dodge:

[fatnold]

Any bike is a good bike. Just get out and learn, do your apprenticeship, pass your test and meanwhile save your pennies for a goodmachine that fits your tastes. If dad's gonna buy then choose something cheap and disposable...he'll thank you for it for not hitting his wallet too hard.