Relocating dislocated... things

[placidfemme]

I know I'm gonna cop a fair bit of shit for this... but anyway...

About 2 months ago or so, my wisdom teeth started to come out, and I can't explain the pain/sensation/feeling/itching that was going on on my gums where the teeth were coming out... I found myself quite often twisting my jaw this way and that to try to get a better scratch/itch or whatever... pretty much like ginding ones teeth, except it made the wisdom teeth area feel better...

Anyway... This one time (at band camp :yes: ) I was twisting my jaw... and then I felt a sharp pain in my jaw (kinda where the jaw hinge part is right up under my ear.

Now ever since then everytime I sneeze I'm in considerable pain (only lasts a few minutes), also when I yawn it feels like my jaw is about to lock and then clicks into place again and then hurts for a few minutes afterwards...

Now this would be a rather sad situation if I had a boyfriend :shutup: and he like BJ's... :shutup: cause I can't open my mouth wide, I struggle to chew anything harder than pizza.

Because my helmet is tight when I remove my helmet it hurts to open my mouth, and even when I wake up my jaw hurts from obviously sleeping on it...

I thought that maybe it would pass, but now a few weeks later I'm still in pain now and then from eating, sleeping, removing my helmet, sneezing and yawning...

I was talking to my gran about it... and someone else in the room commented and said it sounded like I had a dislocated jaw...

I thought I'd be in more constant pain if it was dislocated...

If it is dislocated... is it hard to reloact it (or whatever its called)?

Or is it very important to spend $$ to get a Dr to do it (I HATE Dr's :angry: )

Anyway... any tips or advice?

Thanks

PF :Punk:

[Pumba]

Dont no bugger all about dislocated jaws, but sounds like it miight be painfull to relocate. If its not bothering you to much ignore it and it will go away, well that what I would do any way

[Postie]

go to the hospital and say you have been a victim of domestic violence and you had a good seeing to and your jaw hurts. ACC will do the rest. Sam might get arrested but you can explin it was all a joke once your fixed up.



On a more serious note, decide which you hate more, being in pain when you eat and wake up and all the rest, or Dr's. Then go a see a Dr

[crashe]

Dont be a wuss........... go to the dr or dentist and get it checked out NOW.

Shall check back in later to find out that you have done this and got it all sorted.


Ok off you go... go on.....

[crazybigal]

dont be such a pussy! and go and get it seen to!
my girlfriend has been having her wizzies coming through for a while now and the gum got infected. so i sent her off to the dentist and he gave her antibiotics and its all good and she dosnt have to even have them out.

[iwilde]

Maybe if you had a bf who liked bj's you wouldn't have this problem now?

[TerminalAddict]

do you suffer from snoring? :sleep:
has sam punched you in the mouth to shut you up?

*learnt from experience* :pinch:

[placidfemme]

I'm not a wuss... I'm a tightass who hates Dr's enough to not want them to have any money...

Every Dr I've been to has misdiagnosed myself or close family members... According to Dr's, optometrists and dentists, I should be blind (seriously), I should also have no top teeth, they also disgnosed my mothers 3cm cancer tumer as a calcium lump... and only figgured out what it was once it was too late... mother fuckers... I hate them...

*would rather do it myself and be in EXTRA pain then pay them to do it8

^^ Is why I'm asking

[Fishy]

go to the hospital and say you have been a victim of domestic violence and you had a good seeing to and your jaw hurts. ACC will do the rest. Sam might get arrested but you can explin it was all a joke once your fixed up.


+1


On a more serious note, decide which you hate more, being in pain when you eat and wake up and all the rest, or Dr's. Then go a see a Dr

+2 :niceone:

[Fishy]

I'm not a wuss... I'm a tightass who hates Dr's enough to not want them to have any money...

Every Dr I've been to has misdiagnosed myself or close family members... According to Dr's, optometrists and dentists, I should be blind (seriously), I should also have no top teeth, they also disgnosed my mothers 3cm cancer tumer as a calcium lump... and only figgured out what it was once it was too late... mother fuckers... I hate them...

*would rather do it myself and be in EXTRA pain then pay them to do it8

^^ Is why I'm asking

Sounds like you should find a new doctor, there are plenty of good ones out there.

[LilSel]

Get your wisdom teeth out oww!!! (If you havent already!)

They may be impacted... and thats what is causing the pain. OR...

I have a bad jaw on the right hand side which is the temporomandibular joint.
(Exactly what you are talking about location wise). I had mine operated on just over a year ago, however still have problems with it. Mine cracks and hurts like a bitch sometimes, the disc doesnt go back into place right. your right with the sleeping on that side too, try not to lol.

if you dont do anything about it, you will turn into a grump!!

Something that just happens and does not just go away. It is brought on worse at times of stress or increased pressure on the joint.

I strongly suggest that you have your wisdom teeth out and you may find that this is the cause, if it persists after that... then I suggest seeing a doctor who will refer you to a specialist who will go over options with you.
Its not nice... it sucks a big one... but the op is straight forward and only a few days to recover and it has given me close to a year with no major pain (supposed to go back n see surgeon but im a bit scared lol, the next op is more serious and involves replacing the disc or something.)

Here's some info n pics.

Causes
The exact cause of TMJ syndrome is often unclear. Possible causes include:

-Excess tension in the jaw muscles
-Faulty alignment between the upper and lower teeth and jaws
-Disturbed movement of the jaw joint
-Displacement or abnormal position of the jaw joint or cartilage disc inside the jaw joint
-Arthritis or similar inflammatory process in the joint
-Excess or limited motion of the joint
-Injury of the jaw or face

Risk Factors
A risk factor is something that increases your chance of getting a disease or condition.

Risk factors include:

Sex: female
Age: 30-50 years old
Clenching or grinding of teeth
Poorly fitting dentures
Fibromyalgia
Stress
Arthritis
Symptoms
Symptoms include:

Pain in the temporomandibular joint, jaw, or face
Pain may be worse with chewing, yawning, or opening the mouth
Clicking, popping, or grating sounds with movement of the jaw
A sensation of the jaw “catching” or “locking” briefly, while attempting to open or close the mouth, or while chewing
Difficulty opening the mouth completely
A bite that feels "off," uncomfortable, or as though it is frequently changing
Swelling in the affected side of the face or mouth
Painful muscle spasm in the area of the temporomandibular joint
Headache
Earache
Neck, back, and/or shoulder pain
Diagnosis
The doctor will ask about your symptoms and medical history, and perform a physical exam. The physical exam may include:

Range of motion tests
Listening for sounds in the temporomandibular joints
Visual inspection of your teeth, temporomandibular joints, and muscles of your face and head
Palpation of the joints and the muscles of the face and head
Other tests may include:

X-rays–plain x-rays or panoramic dental x-rays of the jaw and jaw joint; they show the teeth

Arthrography–jaw movements videotaped with x-rays taken after dye is injected into the joint

MRI Scan–a test that uses magnetic waves to create detailed images of the joint

Treatment
Treatment may include:

Lifestyle Measures
Resting the jaw with a soft diet, restricting its movement though smaller bites, and applying warm packs may offer considerable relief. Cognitive-behavior therapy can help some patients learn to avoid clenching and grinding their teeth.

Medications
The most commonly used medicines include:

Acetaminophen
Nonsteroidal anti-inflammatory drugs
Muscle relaxants
Low-dose antidepressants
In some cases, the jaw joint may be injected with pain relieving medicine such as cortisone or lidocaine.

Physical Therapy
Gentle massage or stretching exercises, and transcutaneous electrical nerve stimulation (TENS) may reduce pain and help muscles relax in some patients.

Stress Reduction
Counseling to learn stress management and relaxation techniques, including biofeedback and cognitive behavioral therapy,* may help some patients with TMJ.

Dental Procedures
A splint or mouth guard, usually worn at night, can be made to relax your jaw muscles and prevent clenching and grinding of your teeth. Correction of bite abnormalities by a dentist or orthodontist is sometimes recommended.

Surgical Procedures
Surgical correction is a last resort if other treatments have not succeeded and the pain persists. Many of the available procedures have not been well-studied for their effectiveness.

Prevention
There are no guidelines for preventing TMJ. If you have TMJ, the following may help prevent symptoms:

Ask your dentist if you need a night guard for grinding and clenching of the teeth
Try to limit jaw movements and learn to relax your jaw. Block a yawn by putting your fist under your chin.
Avoid yelling or loud singing.
Don't chew gum.
Learn relaxation techniques and effective ways to cope with stress.

:done:

[Mole_C]

You couldv'e subluxed it (partial dislocation). I did this 3 times to my shoulder and the 3rd time it was screwed for a few weeks and not getting better so had to go to physio. The other 2 times it just hurt for a week then got better slowly and was weak for a few months.

If its not better after a month then it probably wont get better by itself. You might have some scar tissue or something in there. I had to massage the tendons in my shoulder when i did mine so you could try that for a week on your tendons and ligaments in your jaw that and see if it helps, along with some jaw execises. :yes:

[Brett]

There is a little cavity behind the back of your jaw where this little *thing* sits (cant describe what it looks like, but will try find a pic). What is happening is that it is getting stuck between the bone of your jaw and skull. At least, that is what happened to me when i had this issue. I couldnt chew bread without my jaw clicking and hurting. I actually had it where my jaw would lock open and i could not close my mouth, it F#cken HURT! Then with time it just got better... however i am talking years here. My jaw still clicks, but doesnt hurt. I went to see a fascial maxillary surgeon when i had my wisdom teeth out, and he explained what it is that is happening, i think they can fix it with surgery?? From memory it also has something to do with the growth of your jaw.

http://face-and-emotion.com/dataface/physiognomy/media/cranium_side.jpg

Have a look where the bones meet. It doesnt explain too well, but i couldnt find anything besides my wifes medical books to help me explain it better.

[placidfemme]

Get your wisdom teeth out oww!!! (If you havent already!)

damnit... that all sounds expensive...:shutup:

The things in bold are some of the things i get...

*will think about seeing a Dr cause that all sounds serious*

[Brett]

Also read this link:

http://urbansemiotic.com/2005/12/11/a-clicking-jaw/

[LilSel]

damnit... that all sounds expensive...:shutup:

The things in bold are some of the things i get...

*will think about seeing a Dr cause that all sounds serious*

See a dentist first about wisdom teeth first babe.

Get x-rays etc.. and quote to have them out.
Your wisdom teeth could be the cause of the issues, esp if they are impacted and putting pressure on the TMJ. Then once they are out... if problems persist... then you go down the 'other route' (surgeon/specialists etc).

[Blackbird]

It seems like a lot of people suffer with this. My right jaw hinge also makes crunching noises but it's not so bad that I've ever sought specialist help but I'm very interested to see all the comments. Just to make you feel better PF, I know how mine happened and will share it with you as I'm well past embarassment now! It was several years ago and I was feeling playful so I grabbed my wife from behind (I won't say where). I took her somewhat by surprise and she back-elbowed me clean on the jaw and down I went in a shower of sparks, just like the cartoons:shutup: Since then, I've had a crunchy jaw as a reminder that females are the deadlier species.

I commisserate with you:done:

[Fatjim]

There is nothing sadder than a chick who can't open her mouth.

Wait till you get a boyfiiend then let him decide whether you should get it fixed or not.

[placidfemme]

Wait till you get a boyfiiend then let him decide whether you should get it fixed or not.

that is never gonna happen lol

[LilSel]

that is never gonna happen lol

:laugh::laugh:

Would be more of a reason to not get it fixed huh PF?!

[jrandom]

For future reference, I recommend Sovereign's medical insurance plans. Full cover for specialist and hospital care, including oral surgery. (Not dentistry, but you only need one visit to get a referral for wisdom tooth removal.)

Will set you back very little every month, and it's well worth while having.

In the meantime, sorting your wisdom teeth out is, I'm afraid, worth getting a loan to pay for if you can't afford it otherwise. It's just one of those things you gotta do.

[LilSel]

Southern Cross is good too.
Medical insurance is good, things like tonsils, wisdom teeth and other things you may encounter that need to be whipped out or fixed dont cost you an arm and a leg.

[bert_is_evil]

I had impacted wisdom teeth that were giving me no trouble at all, didn't really even know they were there, but I had medical insurance so I had them removed
because I could
for free
my favourite f word

[LilSel]

because I could
for free
my favourite f word

:laugh: thats your fav F word?? :dodge: :shutup:

[bert_is_evil]

:laugh: thats your fav F word?? :dodge: :shutup:

Why of course, what's yours? :innocent:

[LilSel]

Why of course, what's yours? :innocent:

Use your imagination :shifty: :msn-wink:

[bert_is_evil]

Use your imagination :shifty: :msn-wink:

Nope, have racked my brain and can't think what it might be.

oh, hang on - is it flagellate?...

[MSTRS]

oooh...oooh...oooh!!! I guess it's Fingers:innocent:

[Brett]

oooh...oooh...oooh!!! I guess it's Fingers:innocent:

Bahahahahhahahahhahahhahhahahahhahah

[LilSel]

oh, hang on - is it flagellate?...

:laugh:

Could be one of them :shutup:

*biting tongue now*... :shutup: :shutup: left that wide open for remark!!

[LilSel]

oooh...oooh...oooh!!! I guess it's Fingers:innocent:

LMFAO!!!!!! *bling* haha :lol:

Well hey... you dont get to be national champ without having good fingers ;)

So thats another one... :yes:

[MSTRS]

Thanks LilSel - I knew it wasn't Fellatio:dodge:

[Rosie]

I had TMJ problems recently, my jaw seized up to the point where I had to start eating with a teaspoon.
Went to see the dentist, they gave me a jaw x-ray to make sure the joints were ok, and gave me some exercises to do. I had to do them 6 times a day for a month before I started to notice much difference, but jaw is basically good as new now.
Apparently it's a fairly common problem. But that doesn't make people laugh less when you have to explain that you've strained your jaw muscles.

[GN1NiteStnd]

My jaws been clicking as long as I can remember, it even clicks when I eat. It does start to hurt after a while, but I cant say it bothers me. Hope it doesnt turn into what you guys have, ouch!

[xwhatsit]

Don't try and relocate something yourself. I made that mistake.

I was away on tour, and this was the last night before we were to go skiing. I was fooling around playing football with some friends, and I slipped up and dislocated my kneecap. Could feel it down on my shin, it wasn't nice. So anyway, I thought, damnit! I want to go skiing tomorrow! So I thought, well the longer it's dislocated the more painful it will be tomorrow when I go skiing, so I'll just pop it back in.

Grabbed the kneecap, pushed it back to where it's supposed to be. Bad idea. The kneecap sort of slipped up over the top of some bones, and smashed into my thigh-bone, which broke it (all the muscles and tendons were under high tension). Spent some time in hospital, they cut all the tendons around the knee, then took the whole kneecap of my leg, pinned it back together, put it back into my leg, and stitched it up. Was on crutches for a long time, not just due to the kneecap, but the fact they had to cut all my tendons in my knee to get the kneecap out. Still can't run very well today, and occasionally I'll have excruciating pain from it if I stand on it wrong. Have a lovely scar too, a big zipper mark right up the front of my knee and leg, about as wide as my hand and thumb.

Go and see a Doctor, for god's sake PF! ^_^

[placidfemme]

Well after reading some of your horror stories lol I think I might go see a Dr... don't think it will be this week...

The pain isn't overbearing... its just occassional and when it happens... only last a few seconds...

But thanks for all the advise and stories :)

[MSTRS]

From Britney's lips to yours.....http://clickitto.com/tmj-treatment.htm

[placidfemme]

From Britney's lips to yours.....http://clickitto.com/tmj-treatment.htm

Dunno if thats a pisstake or not... but I'll give it a go...

*still not in enough pain to justify paying for a Dr to annoy me*

[MSTRS]

Not a PT. Link at bottom of 'Britney's' page - remembered this thread of yours

[Swoop]

..... I'm on a waiting list to get some wisdom teeth put in......:done: