Whatya do with attitude drivers at the lights?

[forkoil]

Coming to work this morning, at the Birkenhead lights down Onewa Rd. Cruise up the inside of the line at the red light to the front. Noticed the car next to me edging forward so could see myself getting jammed in against the opposing curb unless I did a quick start. So blew him away (as one does) then slowed to normal speed for the trip down Onewa (in the HO lane). This guy sits 3 metres from my back wheel all the way down. When we got to the tail end of the next queue I turned and "looked", he gave back a challenging look / nod. So questioning myself now at work, would it be better to have let him go at the lights and not challenge his attitude. That way I would probably not been at risk with the tailgating, he wouldnt have had quite so much attitude for the rest of his trip, and for other bikers he encounters. Of course I did change lanes further on to get away from him, but the point remains. What do you think?

[SimJen]

I usually just wheelie away. I find it demoralises them as their car is suddenly deemed a slow shit vehicle with a roof ;)
Let them go past if you are that worried.

[Shaun]

Let him GO and do not stare at him! It just is not worth it

[McJim]

I had the same issue with a BMW dirver a few weeks back - this was at the approach to the Southern Motorway Northbound at Sylvia Park.

When I realised he was tailgating me I just lane split and put a few cars between him and me.

No point in kicking doors, flipping the bird etc while he's on 4 wheels and you're on 2 he'll just kill you with his car before his mind kicks into gear and realises it's wrong to kill motorcyclists.

The fuckwits don't actually realise that by lane splitting and in fact merely being on bikes we are actively reducing congestion on the road thus getting him to work faster than if we had used a cage.

[terbang]

Your biggest mistake was looking Mr Agro in the eye. The trick is to not even acknowledge his presence while you clinically give him the learn and put some space between him and you.

[slinky]

duno if is a good idea....
but wen i jump to the front, i come up alongside the car(s) , go a little ahead of them, then stop on a lil bit of an angle, then they can't edge forward.
burn off at the lights.
and ignore them.

[Damon]

when ever i encounter these pricks in traffic I just continue to lane split, leave the bastard there to stew while you ride off :scooter:

[crashe]

Let him go, as he aint worth the shite... he suffers with/from little weenie syndrome.

Then fly past him further up the road and wave to him as he is stuck in traffic yet again....





I have had idiots pull over in front of me, to not let me lanesplit past them...
I sit back and wait for the traffic to start flowing again. Other drivers see what he is doing and allow me the space to move. I then move around the back of him and pass him on the other side and zap off. I am home within minutes and guess where he is....... yep still sitting in the motorway traffic for another hour.



We are always going to strike these idiots out there on the road.
Dont let them bait/wind you up. They are not worth the air they breathe in.

[slinky]

i have had one guy get out the car an tell me to be patient, he can't go anywhere!!
was turning right, and the other side of road was banked up, he just needed to go, and merge in.
but he wouldn't and i couldn't get past,
naturally, i toot the horn :p
out he comes, skinny lil white guy (bigger then me thought, i am a skinnier littler white guy) haha! but he doesn't know that, i got big sholder pads n shit,
he takes a look, n jumps back in his car!

[Fishy]

I guess it comes down to your personality. If you are bothered by it then let him go.

[vifferman]

Meh.

Do whatever the hell you like. It depends who/what the driver is whether it has any effect, and what that effect will be. So, in the final analysis, whatever you do is for your own satisfaction anyway.

I've found glaring is more intimidating when you're wearing a tinted/mirrored visor (yeah, I know it sounds daft), because the moron/driver/arsewipe can't be sure if you're a psycho or not. Doing something psycho helps the illusion....

Sometimes I do really mental things, especially when I'm sure I can't be chased, like punching Mr Drunk/Braindead/Fuckwit's side mirror so it folds back the wrong way.
Then I usually feel guilty when I've calmed down...

Heh (that goes with the opening "Meh")...
I was on my way to the autoparts store to check out some tasty Fiamm horns to replace the anaemic OEM squeaker, when some fluff-brained dolly bird came up to an intersection, looked right, then went anyway. WTF?!?

So, instead of just looking at the Fiamms, I bought them. Finding a mounting place was a bit of an interesting exercise*, so after a goodly while working on it, my bike is still only at the "partly disassembled, but horns more or less in place" stage. Tonight will involve the wiring up bit. Then Mr/Mrs/Miss Yoik/TrafficTransgressor/IrritatingTwit better look at, that's what.


* It's surprising how much assorted crapola lurks beneath the fairings, and how little room there is for mounting additional assorted crapola.

[slinky]

I guess it comes down to your personality. If you are bothered by it then let him go.

good point, and if your stroppy/easily wound up.
ride off pulling the fingers!!

[McJim]

i have had one guy get out the car an tell me to be patient, he can't go anywhere!!
was turning right, and the other side of road was banked up, he just needed to go, and merge in.
but he wouldn't and i couldn't get past,
naturally, i toot the horn :p
out he comes, skinny lil white guy (bigger then me thought, i am a skinnier littler white guy) haha! but he doesn't know that, i got big sholder pads n shit,
he takes a look, n jumps back in his car!

It's vitally important if confrontation is inevitable to be stationary (altercations at speed are dangerous for riders...obviously) - I had a driver chase me round Auckland so I found a busy place (plenty of witnesses) and stopped there, quickly killing the engine and getting off the bike (so I'm not at a disadvantage). the guy skids to a halt and jumps out the car runs up to me looks UP into my helmet (smoked visor so he can't see my eyes) turns round without a word, jumps back into his big arsed car and drives away.

[Roj]

As the others have said, let them go, take your next opportunity to get out of their way, even a nudge from a car can cause you to drop your bike, it doesn't matter of you are in the right or not, you are the one that will come out worst

[slinky]

yeh, it gave me a fright when he jumped out.
i was only 15-16,
but plenty of ppl around, so i wasn't too worried.

[ZeroIndex]

'warm your tires' after pullling off.. that seems to work well..

[bert_is_evil]

Just let him go, you have nothing to prove as you already know you are riding a superior machine. Also if you are the first one off at the light you could get collected by a red light runner, so perhaps pretend you're going to take him on then just let him speed away - that way he wont have such an attitude toward MC's in the future.

[Matt]

As others have said, let 'em go - although a tinted visor stopped it happening to me!

Matt

[Blackbird]

I've found glaring is more intimidating when you're wearing a tinted/mirrored visor (yeah, I know it sounds daft), because the moron/driver/arsewipe can't be sure if you're a psycho or not. Doing something psycho helps the illusion....


Perfect description Ian - I love it too. Most look away. Far better than eye contact.

Geoff

[car]

It's vitally important if confrontation is inevitable to be stationary (altercations at speed are dangerous for riders...obviously) - I had a driver chase me round Auckland so I found a busy place (plenty of witnesses) and stopped there, quickly killing the engine and getting off the bike (so I'm not at a disadvantage). the guy skids to a halt and jumps out the car runs up to me looks UP into my helmet (smoked visor so he can't see my eyes) turns round without a word, jumps back into his big arsed car and drives away.

Reminds me of the time I overtook some boy racer on the way to York, who nailed it after me and then began gesticulating wildly. I left him to talk to himself, but hit red lights in town. As I sat there, I caught him in the corner of my mirror, pulling up behind me, opening the car door...

I killed the engine, kicked down the stand, stepped off the stand side as he pulled level with me, the bike between us. I looked up at him (McJim, you can imagine how this is unavoidable for me) and waited for it.

"Your brake light's out, mate!"

Bugger had gone out of his way to follow me into town, bless.

[forkoil]

Thanks for your interesting responses. Most fall in to one of
1) Go for it.
2) Back off and let them go
I guess which you adopt depends on who you are, or what mood you are in at the time. :scooter: When my logical schizo is in ascendance I'll do 2), and the other when not. I reckon though for me its better to back off, and save humanity the problem of one more bad assed nutter driving with that extra little bit of anger in him that I had a hand in inducing :innocent: But there will be times ....

[McJim]

Bugger had gone out of his way to follow me into town, bless.

Brilliant story - it's not all bad out there eh? How's the tour of NZ going?

[-df-]

Your biggest mistake was looking Mr Agro in the eye. The trick is to not even acknowledge his presence while you clinically give him the learn and put some space between him and you.

Spot on, I might look in my side mirrors...but thats about all the attention I'd give him...now if he tried to ram you off the road, thats another story altogether....

[Karma]

My personal favourite when being tailgated is to slow down even more... don't need to break at all, just let off the throttle and the engine breaking will slow you down nice and gently...

When they're sat 3 metres behind you doing 10kph then that's their correct stopping distance :D

[car]

Brilliant story - it's not all bad out there eh? How's the tour of NZ going?

No, it's not all bad. There are enough eejits around that flipping one off and making haste will just speed your meeting with the next one along the road, though. Which isn't to say that it isn't a lot more fun to flip the bird and make haste...

The tour is finished, at least for the time being. We've fetched up in Wanaka, and now I'm occupying myself with projects that might pay while I wait for that perfect telecommuting peripatetic sysadmin job to come up. It never will, of course, which is why I'll be beating feet to Wellington when funds start to run low.

;)

The Odyssey is taking a well-earned rest in the garage of our newly-rented house.

[dawnrazor]

Hmmmmmm......side mounted paint ball gun, with pellets fille with brake fluid...bang no marks, but the next time it rains - no paint.....ah ya may as well dream, thing is you'd spend so much time aiming you'd probably crash into something.

[boomer]

Give 'em the bird and if they want to get all anxst about it have a chat.
the merc driver that tailgated me like a man posessed soon found his dented door and me waiting on the side of the road a little further up enough for him to piss off.

[Big Dave]

There are no winners, losers and it's not a contest - it's just a fuckwit in a car that you can't allow to impact you - in either sense of the word.

Exit the situation as soon as practicable and get back to enjoying life and riding.

Even if it means pulling over and letting them go - but only if you can't get out of Denver.

*555 as a backup.

[Fatjim]

How the heck do you guys get good leveraeg when kicking cars. When I was kicking this truck (I know, a waste of time) yesterady I just couldn't get much leverage. May have made some damage to a car, but probably not.

[Flyingpony]

Guess pulling out on front of an edging car was the mistake. I'd have let them go first and slip in behind. Never make eye contact or acknowledge anybody tail gating you, only makes it worse.

To buy some time, I find stretching both arms and scratching my back works quite well :mellow: Oops, I forgot you were behind me as the km's quickly roll off :innocent:

Still have to figure out an automatic throttle so she doesn't slow down so quickly, but hey who cares, it got their attention to back off and buys a bit more time to plan your escape route. Also, now that you're both doing at least 15km less than before, and holding her steady, it makes them think if tail gating you was such a bright idea.

[forkoil]

There are no winners, losers and it's not a contest - it's just a fuckwit in a car that you can't allow to impact you - in either sense of the word.

Exit the situation as soon as practicable and get back to enjoying life and riding.

Even if it means pulling over and letting them go - but only if you can't get out of Denver.

*555 as a backup.

Nicely said Dave, I'm with you. But whats it with "Denver"?

[Karma]

I thought it was supposed to be Dodge?

[ceebie13]

Nicely said Dave, I'm with you. But whats it with "Denver"?


"Get Out of Denver"
Artist:Eddie and the Hot Rods (circa 1996.)

also covered by Status Quo

[Big Dave]

Nicely said Dave, I'm with you. But whats it with "Denver"?

Bob Segar and the Silver Bullet Band.


I still remember it was autumn and the moon was shining
Our 60 Cadillac was roaring through Nebraska whining
Doing 120 man the fields was bending over
Heading up for the mountains knowing we was traveling further
All the fires were blazing and the spinning wheels were turning turning
Had my girlfriend beside me, brother, she was burning burning

I walked up back to speak to this southern funky school teacher
She had a lot of something heavy but we couldn't reach her
We told her that we needed something that would get us going
She pulled out all she had and laid it on the table showing
All I had to do was lay my money down and pick it up
The cops came busting in and then we lit out in a pickup truck

Go! Get out of Denver, baby, go, go
Get out of Denver, baby, go
Get out of Denver, baby, go, go
Get out of Denver cause you look just like a commie
And you might just be a member
Better get out of Denver
Better get out of Denver

Well, all red lights were flashing and the sirens were screaming screaming
We had to pinch each other just to see if we were dreaming
Made it to lovely Pass in under less than half an hour
Lord, it started drizzling and it turned into a thundershower, oh!

The rain was driving but the Caddy kept on burning rubber
We kept on driving till we ran into some fog cover
We couldn't see a thing but somehow we just kept on going
We kept on driving all night long and then into the morning
Fog had finally lifted when we looked to see where we was at
We're staring at Colorado state policeman trooper cat

Go! Get out of Denver, baby, go, go
Get out of Denver, baby, go
Get out of Denver, baby, go, go
Get out of Denver cause you look just like a commie
And you might just be a member
Better get out of Denver
Better get out of Denver

Go! Get out of Denver, baby, go, go
Get out of Denver, baby, go
Get out of Denver, baby, go, go
Get out of Denver cause you look just like a commie
And you might just be a member
Better get out of Denver
Better get out of Denver

[Maha]

'warm your tires' after pullling off.. that seems to work well..

Do you realise what you just said?......:gob: :killingme

[McJim]

Do you realise what you just said?......:gob: :killingme

Are you impuning his choice of lubricant on the tarmac?

[Maha]

Are you impuning his choice of lubricant on the tarmac?

There is that i guess......but no!......:innocent:
And stop using such stupendously challenging vocabulary....:confused:

[Scouse]

Coming to work this morning, at the Birkenhead lights down Onewa Rd. Cruise up the inside of the line at the red light to the front. Noticed the car next to me edging forward so could see myself getting jammed in against the opposing curb unless I did a quick start. So blew him away (as one does) then slowed to normal speed for the trip down Onewa (in the HO lane). This guy sits 3 metres from my back wheel all the way down. When we got to the tail end of the next queue I turned and "looked", he gave back a challenging look / nod. So questioning myself now at work, would it be better to have let him go at the lights and not challenge his attitude. That way I would probably not been at risk with the tailgating, he wouldnt have had quite so much attitude for the rest of his trip, and for other bikers he encounters. Of course I did change lanes further on to get away from him, but the point remains. What do you think?Dunno I've never had that problem

[Skyryder]

Bob Segar and the Silver Bullet Band.

And they sound as good as their name. Got some of their music somewhere. Might just go and find it.

Skyryder

[Shadows]

The fuckwits don't actually realise that by lane splitting and in fact merely being on bikes we are actively reducing congestion on the road thus getting him to work faster than if we had used a cage.

Ahhhh... but the thing is that you were behind him to begin with.

In the myopic mind of said fuckwit, how can a biker splitting lanes and getting in front of him, get him to work any faster?

[mattp]

My view is to let them go off on their way and think that have won. Then overtake them and at the sametime wack the #uck out of their wing mirror :Punk: . Cops don't like it but I can't stand it when a cage driver thinks he should give it large becasue he is sitting in a car :ar15:

[Karma]

I wonder how many people on this site also drive cars regularly... for all you know the guy could have been admiring the bike a little too closely.

If anyone tries swiping my wing mirror I'd hunt the fucker down and give em a fucking kicking.

[Lou Girardin]

I find a warning tap with your boot works well, or a mirrorectomy if it's a life-threatening incident.
Follow them, they forget that they will have to stop in traffic. That's when the worm turns.

[thehollowmen]

Usually I ride normally, nothing to prove.

If they're tailgating, I slow little by little and start trying to take the edge off my flat spot.

After all, I'm in no hurry. Ain't got anything to prove either.

My bike ain't sporty, but it is big and red. It attracts all types of attention.

[scumdog]

Usually I ride normally, nothing to prove.

If they're tailgating, I slow little by little and start trying to take the edge off my flat spot.

After all, I'm in no hurry. Ain't got anything to prove either.

My bike ain't sporty, but it is big and red. It attracts all types of attention.

How come none of you drongos out there came up with something as sensible as THIS?

[McJim]

How come none of you drongos out there came up with something as sensible as THIS?

Coz we've got sport bikes and small dicks - sheesh - you must know us by now surely.

[slinky]

Coz we've got sport bikes and small dicks - sheesh - you must know us by now surely.

speak for yourself :p

[lukelin250]

ill never get over the cuntattitudeness of people who are sat in traffic and just cause they cant go anywhere deliberatly block the way of lane splitting, fucking morons. and people who get all worked up and antagonised when i jump to the front of the traffic lights, im talking like almost every time i go to the front of the cue at the lights some guy gets all up next to me trynna push in .

im ALL for using a bit of the ol ultra violence

[lukelin250]

Give 'em the bird and if they want to get all anxst about it have a chat.
the merc driver that tailgated me like a man posessed soon found his dented door and me waiting on the side of the road a little further up enough for him to piss off.


how do you kick a door while riding, i have yet to master that move. if someone life threatens me while im riding i just follow them wait till they get out then get out my stash of ball bearings from my jacket and smash the cages windows.

[SPman]

Perth's meant to be bad for this (if you read the local website.....same sort of moaning), but I've never had any trouble....
Mind, lanesplitting on a bulky XJR 1300, with full leathers, tinted visor and an assertive attitude probably helps...

[Big Dog]

I found a useful peice of advice in a wonderful book I got out of the library a few years ago. Can't remember title something about the untimate bikers guide. American but good none the less.

Pull in between the first and second car. The driver of the second car is already focused on not hitting the first car and is already resigned to not being first.
Since I started doing this I have had only one scary moment. Now I pull right in so that the car behind me cannot go till I do. No more scary moments in 5 years of city riding in the big smoke.

[Big Dog]

For those that don't remember Libraries lend out free (paper)books to those who register......

[jtzzr]

I agree with most comments on here, If you feel intimidated let the tosspot go and enjoy the rest of your day , and try not to let it eat at you , but on the otherhand if you like to have a little laugh try to get a car or two in front then start weaving in and out of the cats eyes like slalom and wiggle your arse like your on a dance floor at the same time , I`m sure this will annoy the tosspotmobile.(Disclaimer:jtzzr in no way endorses this behaviour , and believes these actions to be irrational and quite possibly illegal , but funny. )

[marty]

commuting 1500k a week, i soon realised that when there's fuckwits on the road, just under/overtake them, and fuck off into the distance. the type of dickheads that give chase drive shitters anyway, so 3 minutes at 100mph will either run them out of gas, or overheat their engine, so that attack is the best line of defence. there's enough to worry about without worrying about what other wankers are doing - just get on with your own life.

[lukelin250]

its no good saying not to worry bout them, sometimes these people seriously endanger your life and its more than ok to take offence to that and do somthing so they dont forget to watch out for bikers next time. its not gonna kill them but just may save the life of another biker

[marty]

its no good saying not to worry bout them, sometimes these people seriously endanger your life and its more than ok to take offence to that and do somthing so they dont forget to watch out for bikers next time. its not gonna kill them but just may save the life of another biker

or piss them off so much that the next biker that cuts them off/pisses them off/whatevers them off, is made sure that they are knocked off. i'm fucked if i want to be lying on the ground as a result of something some jumped up immature 250 rider did to that driver 10 minutes previous

[Brett]

Yep, when in doubt split a few cars and get far ahead!

[Grahameeboy]

Yeah the other day on Esmonde road I was going down middle, some geezer knew I was there but stuck to line so too narrow and he kept looking at me...cool thing about bikes is that we can wait.....cause he was in a cage and a I eventually got past..he he

[Disco Dan]

Yeah the other day on Esmonde road I was going down middle, some geezer knew I was there but stuck to line so too narrow and he kept looking at me...cool thing about bikes is that we can wait.....cause he was in a cage and a I eventually got past..he he

ran into something similiar, was riding between stopped cars at lights.. as i approached the two cars at the front the lights went green.. i was in line with drivers door and i was clearly visible, the BOTH moved towards me with only a couple of inches away each side... honked my horn... gassed it and took out both cars side mirrors... as i sped off i was shaking my head and giving them the finger... idiots. serves them right. humpf.

[unhingedlizard]

stare, point, laugh and repeat.

[Pixie]

Many of the "atitude" problems with enclosed vehicle drivers on the road is because the driver feels safe and invulnerable and thinks he / she can get away with being a prick.
If someone has transgressed against you seriously enough,one option is to patiently wait till they are stuck at the next traffic light,park your bike safely on the footpath and go and have a word with them.
Keep in mind that if they turn out to be agressive that it is quite easy to prevent someone who is seated in a car seat from opening the door and climbing out.

[Rewalise]

I don't ride my bike every day in fact i get get to ride it very little as i work 2 jobs and both require a company vehicle. When I'm out and about in a normal day and I see a lovely 2 wheeled beauty comimg up side me and I'm sittig in traffic I think, arse! wish I was on my bike right now. Probrably what every other shitty prick is thinking but they don't have a bike to ride and therefor realise that sitting in traffic is there lot. Just my thought.

[xwhatsit]

I saw something very cool at the beginning of Remuera Rd a week or so back, you know the intersection of Remuera Rd and Newmarket. The guy was on a TU250, and a driver tried to block him off as he was trying to lanesplit, even while the biker was still moving. Not deterred by that, Mr Volty carried straight through between the two cars, standing up on the pegs and turning his body sideways and side to side to slalom through the two car's wingmirrors. Looked superb! Guy in the car looked pissed off.

[Ixion]

You mean he turned so as to take out the two mirrors? or to miss them ? I'd just keep going.

Had one a few weeks back, was quietly minding my own business filtering down the left of stopped traffic in a careful and law abiding fashion (no left turn, so quite safe).

And Mr Dork decides , for whatever reason, that he should prevent this. So he turns his car inward toward the kerb so as to block me off. To the point his left front wheel is just about touching the kerb

Hm.Okay. One thing about a chook chaser , you can follow the chooks wherever. So hippity hoppity hop, and hop onto the footpath, and tootle the few yards past Mr Dork, and the car in front of him (just to put a bit of space between me and him). Bumpity bumpity bump, down onto the road again and filter up to my rightful and proper place at the head of the queue.

Meanwhile Mr Dork has been tooting his little tooter like a small boy who has just discovered tooting, and in my mirror I see he's actually opened his door and gotten out. But then the lights changed so I pootled off.

I think Karma may have had a word with Mr Dork though, cos watching in my mirror he seemed to be having some trouble.

I think he had turned so sharply toward the kerb that he couldn't straighten up without backing up a bit. And I think the cage behind him, when the light went green had crept right up behind him , as they do, so that Mr Dork couldn't back up. Oh dear, how sad, never mind.

[Swoop]

Had one a few weeks back...

Meanwhile Mr Dork has been tooting his little tooter like a small boy who has just discovered tooting,

Oh dear, how sad, never mind.
:clap: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[BarBender]

...Oh dear, how sad, never mind.

Ixion - you the man.

[gijoe1313]

I think Karma may have had a word with Mr Dork though, cos watching in my mirror he seemed to be having some trouble.

I think he had turned so sharply toward the kerb that he couldn't straighten up without backing up a bit. And I think the cage behind him, when the light went green had crept right up behind him , as they do, so that Mr Dork couldn't back up. Oh dear, how sad, never mind.

:clap: :rofl: :not: :lol: :banana: :laugh: :niceone: :first:

Lot of class and style that! Would have made for a very good comedy moment!

[xwhatsit]

Lol what a tit. I would've been worried about myself falling off my bike from laughing too much haha. What kind of turkey does something like that anyway? I wonder if that was the same guy that had had his wingmirror recalibrated earlier by one of our more high strung members?

[granma2]

How the heck do you guys get good leveraeg when kicking cars. When I was kicking this truck (I know, a waste of time) yesterady I just couldn't get much leverage. May have made some damage to a car, but probably not.

Best is steel toe-cap boots on car tail light. Both sides. Very expensive for the car owner. Works well!

[granma2]

You mean he turned so as to take out the two mirrors? or to miss them ? I'd just keep going.

Had one a few weeks back, was quietly minding my own business filtering down the left of stopped traffic in a careful and law abiding fashion (no left turn, so quite safe).

And Mr Dork decides , for whatever reason, that he should prevent this. So he turns his car inward toward the kerb so as to block me off. To the point his left front wheel is just about touching the kerb

Hm.Okay. One thing about a chook chaser , you can follow the chooks wherever. So hippity hoppity hop, and hop onto the footpath, and tootle the few yards past Mr Dork, and the car in front of him (just to put a bit of space between me and him). Bumpity bumpity bump, down onto the road again and filter up to my rightful and proper place at the head of the queue.

Meanwhile Mr Dork has been tooting his little tooter like a small boy who has just discovered tooting, and in my mirror I see he's actually opened his door and gotten out. But then the lights changed so I pootled off.

I think Karma may have had a word with Mr Dork though, cos watching in my mirror he seemed to be having some trouble.

I think he had turned so sharply toward the kerb that he couldn't straighten up without backing up a bit. And I think the cage behind him, when the light went green had crept right up behind him , as they do, so that Mr Dork couldn't back up. Oh dear, how sad, never mind.

I love it.....LOL:first:

[BarBender]

Best is steel toe-cap boots on car tail light. Both sides. Very expensive for the car owner. Works well!

Fark kicking the car...do some real damage with a big farken forearm to the roof.

[mikey62]

Thought I'd add this one. on the South Eastern headen home the other night and this small dicked wanker in a red Evo actually nudged my rear tire while we were stationery in traffic ! I turned around to give him "the glare" and the prick flips me the bird. Couldn't believe it. Was just about to get off my ride and smack the bonnet with my reinforced MX gloves but the traffic started moving. Tossed up still getting off and doing the aforementioned damage but thought I'd just get his plate number and pay his doorstep a visit with a lit paper bag and some doggie doo but he changed lanes and I couldn't read it. So if anyone out east sees such a cage in the Pakuranga area, take his mirroor out for me would ya.

[granma2]

Next time dont hesitate-hold up the traffic and just do it!!! :whocares:

[KATWYN]

because the moron/driver/arsewipe can't be sure if you're a psycho or not. Doing something psycho helps the illusion....

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IMO,Hmmm unsure whether they could work that one out. Its giving credit to the moron/driver/a******* that they are actually thinking, reasoning persons while they are tailgating and endangering your life... clearly during the time they are doing this they are not.

[sunhuntin]

How come none of you drongos out there came up with something as sensible as THIS?

i ride sensble as well....my speed while down south a mix of 80-110k...usually 80, lol. i was in no hurry to get where i was going, and was happy at 80k, specially since it was all new roads to me.
even when going 110 [only when the wind was up and i had to try and stay in a straight line] i had cagers right up my ass. even when the speed limit dropped for towns/roadworks/corners they stayed right up close.
im not an aggressive rider...i do hold my place on the road till i can safely move left to allow cars by. i really wish id slapped the bitch that hit me last year...just that once it would have been good to be aggressive and be fine with it.
i went to the hutt when coming back and went back over the haywards hill. its posted at 80, i was doing 70 or so, had a car right up my arse and nearly had a head on with 2 cars due to not being able to slow down enough for the corner. nowhere to pull off either.
id rather save my life and just let bad drivers go ahead....same reason i never filter at the lights, and hate being first in line.

i dont care if get somewhere late....so long as i get there

btw...that cop that overtook with no indicators was near dinsdale/dunsdale [cant remember which, lol.]