Questions for the cops on here

[lb99]

apart from being a dumbass, am I in the shit for reversing my car for a good distance in the supermarket carpark at night?, there where a some other cars about (including a mufti :doh:), the cop went spastic at me, esp when I couldnt produce a license:o, in the end he said " expect to see something in the mail," and stomped off, I asked what it would be and if I could just get a ticket now, he just kept on walking.

so what can I expect from this?
whats the rules on traffic and cops in carparks?

[hurricane_r]

if u drink and park, ur a bloody idiot

[lb99]

I was just leaving work and it seemed a good idea, but the cops in pursuit around the carpark didn't think so, no drink here matey, ohh, no breath test either, it thought that would have been manditory for this sort of stunt

[edit] no weed either :(

[lb99]

I recon he was just pissed that I out reversed him, and he probably spilled his maccas too! ( thats where he was hiding)

[crashe]

Supermarket carparks are private property........

the carparks belong to the supermarket.....
hence them putting up signs stateing "they are not responsible/liable for any damage done to your car..." or words to that effect.

So you were reversing...... you have to reverse out having driven into the carpark space.

Not sure about if the cops can charge you for reversing in a carpark......
so good on you for asking the local cops on here for their advise on this situation.

[Drum]

You've created a monster with this thread!

[lb99]

and he took my details, I backed out of my park at about 0:05 am and decided to be funny and reversed for 150-200 meters around a couple of islands until I was out of sight, (after spending 11 hours on a forklift, it doesn't really matter what direction you are facing), I was gonna cap it off with a Starsky and Hutch type reverse spin thing, but is my lady's car, so I decided not to do that ,lucky.
anyways, when I stopped and turned around there was this cop there :doh:

"oi, what the hell d'you think you are doing"
"uhh, reversing sir"
"what"
(mumbles)"showing off officer"

I asked him if I had broken the law and he said "what do you think?"
so I started to tell him that I didn't know, thats why I asked, but decided to eat humble pie instead

[ManDownUnder]

"oi, what the hell d'you think you are doing"
"uhh, reversing sir"
"what"
(mumbles)"showing off officer"

I asked him if I had broken the law and he said "what do you think?"
so I started to tell him that I didn't know, thats why I asked, but decided to eat humble pie instead

LOL mate - that pie tastes like shit don't it? Good move though. The more you eat the less you and up swimming in.

Good luck.

Oh yeah, dangerous use, careless use of a MV, and possibly other stuff as a carpark is public property (privately owned, but public by virtue of the fact the public are all reasonably allowed in there/can expect to be found there).

Nothing serious though. Expect a tsk tsk" type thing... $100 or so (at a wild eyed guess)

[Titanium]

Probably thought he had good cause to stop you, after all 150 -200 meters reversing in a car park could be considered "strange". Not like they would see it every day.

It is a requirement you carry a licence at all times while driving.

Give them a reason to stop you and they probably will.

[blast]

i once reversed thru a KFC drive thru, in front of a cop that just started to order his shit, so i went upto to window and ordered my food in front of him,he didnt say anything ,but had a real shitty look on his face. farkhim i say:rockon: :rockon:

[Skyryder]

Yes the cops do have authority on private property. You were not comitting an offence backing as per se but the speed of you backing may have drawn attention to yourself.

The ammendments to the Land Transport Act state something to the effect that a road is where a vehicle can access. Supermarket carparks are there deemed to be roads and the laws of the Act applies to them.

Skyryder

[Grahameeboy]

Should the cop have issued a ticket though...........I mean surely he should tell you what the offence under Law is............seems odd

[JimO]

you should have told him to fuck off and catch some murderers, that would have been fun:shutup: :shutup:

[Grahameeboy]

you should have told him to fuck off and catch some murderers, that would have been fun:shutup: :shutup:

Here is a ticket sonny...:yes:

[James Deuce]

You'll get a fine for not being able to produce a license. $200 I think.

[Grahameeboy]

You'll get a fine for not being able to produce a license. $200 I think.


that will be for starters eh Jimbo....then there will be fine for parking at Supermarket and not shopping there and I guess for not facing the way you were going.....

[WINJA]

You Might Just Get Off , We Had A Heap Of Bikes And A Hot Vr4 Racing In A Carpark In Ellerslie , We Didnt Realise We Were Being Chased Till We Were Coming Up To Lap The Cop , As We Realised We Were Being Chased And That He Was Almost A Lap Behind We Stopped He Turned Around By That Time Back Up Was Arriving , The Cop Had A Smirk On His Face He Said It Was Irresponsible Etcetc Expect Something In The Mail And Nothing Turned Up

[lb99]

Probably thought he had good cause to stop you, after all 150 -200 meters reversing in a car park could be considered "strange". Not like they would see it every day.

It is a requirement you carry a licence at all times while driving.

Give them a reason to stop you and they probably will.

I understand why he pulled me up, fair enough, I bet it did look a bit strange I was just wondering what they could do me for, I guess it could have been reckless, but I dont think it was careless, or dangerous, like thet tow truck in cars says "Im the all time backwards driving champeen".

I forgot it was friday, and its a ricer hangout too, oops

as for the license, I would have thought I would have got a ticket on the spot, he never even attempted to verify the info I gave him was correct, not even a QV on the car.

[Fatjim]

How fast where you reversing? you should have told the cunt that you're a better reverser than he is at going forward.

BTW the coppers can get you for anything they want, everything is illegal if the coppers want it to be. It's called careless or dangerous.

[Ixion]

$55 for failure to carry licence.

I suspect that when he saw the car he thought it'd be a bunch of kids and he might get them for breach of licence conditions. Or else a pissed driver. And was disappointed on both counts.

Hard put to construct any offence other than the licence one. Reversing isn't illegal, so unless the driving itself was dodgy there's no real offence.

[sAsLEX]

Its actually an offence punishible by death. Im suprised he didnt whip out his ASP and baton you to till your black and bleeding.

Isnt the ASP a baton so it would be

I am surprised he didnt whip out his ASP Baton.

[ZorsT]

The ammendments to the Land Transport Act state something to the effect that a road is where a vehicle can access. Supermarket carparks are there deemed to be roads and the laws of the Act applies to them.

Skyryder

http://www.legislation.govt.nz/libraries/contents/om_isapi.dll?clientID=292818&infobase=pal_statutes.nfo&jump=a1998-110%2fs.2&softpage=DOC

Road includes—

(a)A street; and

(b)A motorway; and

(c)A beach; and

(d)A place to which the public have access, whether as of right or not; and

(e)All bridges, culverts, ferries, and fords forming part of a road or street or motorway, or a place referred to in paragraph (d):

(f)All sites at which vehicles may be weighed for the purposes of this Act or any other enactment:

[Ronin]

Yup, this is why I need an F endorsment on license when I have the forklift in our carpark. :angry:

[Ixion]

Im suprised he didnt whip out his ASP ,,,.

Only if he were driving a Dodge.

[Ixion]

We do have Dodge's :Punk:

Then all you need to do is turn on the vindscreen vipers.

[lb99]

http://www.legislation.govt.nz/libraries/contents/om_isapi.dll?clientID=292818&infobase=pal_statutes.nfo&jump=a1998-110%2fs.2&softpage=DOC

Road includes—

(a)A street; and

(b)A motorway; and

(c)A beach; and

(d)A place to which the public have access, whether as of right or not; and

(e)All bridges, culverts, ferries, and fords forming part of a road or street or motorway, or a place referred to in paragraph (d):

(f)All sites at which vehicles may be weighed for the purposes of this Act or any other enactment:


yeah we got that on our forklift test

[lb99]

How fast where you reversing? you should have told the cunt that you're a better reverser than he is at going forward.

BTW the coppers can get you for anything they want, everything is illegal if the coppers want it to be. It's called careless or dangerous.


uh, I dunno the speedo was behind me, (so was the cop), but the old coon goes pretty fast in reverse, so I wasnt going as fast as I could of been

[lb99]

bretheren wagon, wiv da cuzzie seats and da column shift bro

[Laava]

Shame you weren't driving an Italian car. They are well known for having many reverse gears!

[Swoop]

FFS! You were going in reverse!
Cops will give you a speeding ticket for going FORWARDS, so you should expect a cheque in the mail very soon!!!!!!:shit: :gob: :yes:


:dodge:

[Swoop]

Our patrol cars will do 120 km/hr in reverse. I imagine a ford would do much the same.

It's a ford... Fucked On Reverse Direction...

[rwh]

http://www.legislation.govt.nz/libraries/contents/om_isapi.dll?clientID=292818&infobase=pal_statutes.nfo&jump=a1998-110%2fs.2&softpage=DOC

Road includes—

(a)A street; and

(b)A motorway; and

(c)A beach; and

(d)A place to which the public have access, whether as of right or not; and

(e)All bridges, culverts, ferries, and fords forming part of a road or street or motorway, or a place referred to in paragraph (d):

(f)All sites at which vehicles may be weighed for the purposes of this Act or any other enactment:

So is there anywhere you're actually allowed to ride an unlicensed off-road bike? Even on a private farm, the public can jump the fence ...

Is a closed-off designated area (like an MX track) the only option?

Richard

[ZorsT]

So is there anywhere you're actually allowed to ride an unlicensed off-road bike? Even on a private farm, the public can jump the fence ...

Is a closed-off designated area (like an MX track) the only option?

Richard
Apparently not. Even an MX track - since you are in there, public have access

[ZorsT]

But would the police have trouble proving it if they were to charge someone for a traffic offence?

[lb99]

Our patrol cars will do 120 km/hr in reverse. I imagine a ford would do much the same.

thats pretty quick for rear wheel steering :lol:

[lb99]

FFS! You were going in reverse!
Cops will give you a speeding ticket for going FORWARDS, so you should expect a cheque in the mail very soon!!!!!!:shit: :gob: :yes:


:dodge:

I'm gonna reverse everywhere

[Fatjim]

So is there anywhere you're actually allowed to ride an unlicensed off-road bike? Even on a private farm, the public can jump the fence ...

Is a closed-off designated area (like an MX track) the only option?

Richard

It's "have access" not "can get into if they try hard enough".

EG. a cop can give you ticket on your driveway, unless you have a chain or locked gate accross the front ot bar access. Of course every cop will disagree, not just with me, but with each other. Seems they get there interpretation out of different weetbix packets.