To sell or not to sell, that is the question

[Meekey_Mouse]

Hey all, Would like your help and in-put...

I have a Suzuki GSX 250, I can't go up to anything bigger as I still have about 15 months till I can get my full. The GSX has only done 3,600Kms so I now it will be reliable and won't brake down, but I'm finding it is already a bit dwardly for me. I'm not wanting to hoon around and lose my licence or any thing, but being able to over take with a bit more ease and be able to push it a bit more on track days would be nice.

So the question is... do you think I should sell it and get like a ZXR with fairly low Kms (20-35,000Kms) or keep it and just learn to dwardle along for 15 months?

[kiwifruit]

keep it and just learn to dwardle along for 15 months

possibly 9 if you do all the courses

[SuperDave]

Keep it and save your money for a proper 600 or whatever you want to step up to when you get your full. Do one of those defensive driving courses and that will knock 6 months off your restricted license wait.

The ZXRs, CBR's and other similar bikes in the market are only getting older. They are fun and good and if you were on a 150 I would think going to one of them to be a good idea but I would say just stick it out in your case.

[Karma]

You won't find a cheap ZXR with km's that low for a start, but ditch the gsx anyways, if you're bored with it already it'll only get worse over time.

Lifes too short to ride a bike you don't like.

[crazybigal]

if you feel you must get rid of it, swap it for a bandit! i had one of those gsx 250 (blue 2004) felt like junk, build quality rubbish. only had it 2 week as i had traded it on another bike, couldn't wait to see the back of it!.
as far as being reliable, ive heard stories of motors shitting out after 6000km!
wouldnt go down the zxr road, unless you can find a good one. most of them are worn out tired heaps!




Hey all, Would like your help and in-put...

I have a Suzuki GSX 250, I can't go up to anything bigger as I still have about 15 months till I can get my full. The GSX has only done 3,600Kms so I now it will be reliable and won't brake down, but I'm finding it is already a bit dwardly for me. I'm not wanting to hoon around and lose my licence or any thing, but being able to over take with a bit more ease and be able to push it a bit more on track days would be nice.

So the question is... do you think I should sell it and get like a ZXR with fairly low Kms (20-35,000Kms) or keep it and just learn to dwardle along for 15 months?

[hurricane_r]

lol dont get a bandit watever you do,
get a nice con cbr250rr or something 250cc
nice power and exelent handling

[crazybigal]

bandits are 250! gsxr inline4 motor.
good little bike for the money. yeah cbr250rr is a great bike but $$$$


lol dont get a bandit watever you do,
get a nice con cbr250rr or something 250cc
nice power and exelent handling

[erik]

Stick with the GSX250 and learn to ride that quick.

dveus used to have a GSX250 and he certainly didn't dawdle.

[yungatart]

Stick with what you have, I am sure that you haven't found your bike's limits yet...

[hurricane_r]

oops..........well that sucks then doesnt it

[Laava]

NoS:yes:......

[MyGSXF]

Stick with the GSX250 and learn to ride that quick

Stick with the GSX250 & learn to ride that SAFELY & COMPETENTLY.. what's the point of being able to ride 'quick'.. if you end up killing yourself in the first decent corners you come to.. coz you haven't learnt to competently & safely corner properly, & you go into it too fast... run wide & go over, or hit a bank..

do as many rider training courses you can, & learn learn & learn.. then practice practice & practice! You have many years ahead of you to get a 'quick' bike.. !! patience! 'bigger' is not necessarily better!!

what is the speed limit for a restricted (?) licence holder these days anyway...?? is it 100 ks??? or lower..??

I cannot stand seeing people wank on about the 'size' of their bike.. & then watch them ride like crap! personally I feel that 'some' people who have 'big' bikes.. are making up for a lack of size in certain bodily parts! :yes:

[ZorsT]

what is the speed limit for a restricted (?) licence holder these days anyway...?? is it 100 ks??? or lower..??
70k for Lerners licence, 100 otherwise

I cannot stand seeing people wank on about the 'size' of their bike.. & then watch them ride like crap! personally I feel that 'some' people who have 'big' bikes.. are making up for a lack of size in certain bodily parts! :yes:
:mellow: :shutup: :innocent:

[Meekey_Mouse]

Stick with the GSX250 & learn to ride that SAFELY & COMPETENTLY.. what's the point of being able to ride 'quick'.. if you end up killing yourself in the first decent corners you come to.. coz you haven't learnt to competently & safely corner properly, & you go into it too fast... run wide & go over, or hit a bank..

do as many rider training courses you can, & learn learn & learn.. then practice practice & practice! You have many years ahead of you to get a 'quick' bike.. !! patience! 'bigger' is not necessarily better!!

what is the speed limit for a restricted (?) licence holder these days anyway...?? is it 100 ks??? or lower..??

I cannot stand seeing people wank on about the 'size' of their bike.. & then watch them ride like crap! personally I feel that 'some' people who have 'big' bikes.. are making up for a lack of size in certain bodily parts! :yes:

I don't care so much as "riding quick" but just being able to have a bit more fun with out having to completely ride it through all the gears, or be able to over take a 90K driver with a bit more ease. I'm still learning and know I will always be learning as long as I live, but I take it easy through corners on the road.

Restricted licence holders can do 100Kph. I totally agree with you on bike size, if any thing another good thing about the ZXR is that they are lower and lighter then the GSX, I can flat foot on the ZXR's :p

[MyGSXF]

I don't care so much as "riding quick" but just being able to have a bit more fun with out having to completely ride it through all the gears, or be able to over take a 90K driver with a bit more ease. I'm still learning and know I will always be learning as long as I live, but I take it easy through corners on the road.

Restricted licence holders can do 100Kph. I totally agree with you on bike size, if any thing another good thing about the ZXR is that they are lower and lighter then the GSX, I can flat foot on the ZXR's :p

Good attitude about learning! :yes: I have been riding for 15 years & I ride a GSX400F, after riding an XV 750 for 8 of those years. I have completed a couple of rider training courses here, & actually had the instructors ring me & say, they were so impressed with my ability.. that IF they can source funding from god knows where.. would I be interested in training with them to be a mentor!! of course.. I said "HELL YES!!!!" unfortunately no funding has become available as of yet... Anyway... my point being.. I ride a 400! & I know I can ride the arse off a lot of people out there.. in terms of my competence & ability. A bigger bike isn't going to make me any more 'competent' a rider.. that comes from inside me! 'skill' FAR outweighs 'speed' any day!!!!!!!! :Punk: stay safe chickie.. that is what is most important!!!

Jen:rockon:

[dawnrazor]

Hey all, Would like your help and in-put...

I have a Suzuki GSX 250, I can't go up to anything bigger as I still have about 15 months till I can get my full. The GSX has only done 3,600Kms so I now it will be reliable and won't brake down, but I'm finding it is already a bit dwardly for me. I'm not wanting to hoon around and lose my licence or any thing, but being able to over take with a bit more ease and be able to push it a bit more on track days would be nice.

So the question is... do you think I should sell it and get like a ZXR with fairly low Kms (20-35,000Kms) or keep it and just learn to dwardle along for 15 months?

Firstly neither of the two highlighted words exist in the english language, I assume you mean dawdle which is a word - but I'm sure dawdly doesn't exist either.

Keep your bike, save your money and buy a dictionary instead.

[Mr. Peanut]

Sell the GSX if you're prepared for a long wait, until you find a minter. I was quite impressed by the Kawasaki GPX250 which is still made new.

[Meekey_Mouse]

Firstly neither of the two highlighted words exist in the english language, I assume you mean dawdle which is a word - but I'm sure dawdly doesn't exist either.

Keep your bike, save your money and buy a dictionary instead.

Lol, I was meaning dawdle.... but I already have a dictionary AND spell check :p I just don't use 'em all that much :p

[MSTRS]

I don't care so much as "riding quick" but just being able to have a bit more fun with out having to completely ride it through all the gears, or be able to over take a 90K driver with a bit more ease. I'm still learning and know I will always be learning as long as I live, but I take it easy through corners on the road.

Restricted licence holders can do 100Kph. I totally agree with you on bike size, if any thing another good thing about the ZXR is that they are lower and lighter then the GSX, I can flat foot on the ZXR's :p

Part of riding ANY size bike, except perhaps a Harley, is using your gears and on bikes with more cylinders this is even more important. Its all about where the torque and maximum hp is....

[WINJA]

Learn To Hit The Corners Farkin Hard On That Then Youll Be Fast As On Your New 600 Or What Ever You Get, Or If You Cant Wait You Could Just Get A Gsxr1000 And Not Stop

[dawnrazor]

Lol, I was meaning dawdle.... but I already have a dictionary AND spell check :p I just don't use 'em all that much :p

Sorry if that came across a bit snotty and preachy, (as a fellow KB member felt it did and red rep'ed me for it - thanks RENAL MESS TUTOR (an anagram to protect the cowardly).:dodge:

Anyway I was trying to be funny, but it probably came off a little dickheadish (which is a word, look it up):yes: Didn't mean anything by it, I'd still keep your bike though and save for a 600 or a 400 like this one
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=78248974

cheers

[Meekey_Mouse]

Sorry if that came across a bit snotty and preachy, (as a fellow KB member felt it did and red rep'ed me for it - thanks RENAL MESS TUTOR (an anagram to protect the cowardly).:dodge:

Anyway I was trying to be funny, but it probably came off a little dickheadish (which is a word, look it up):yes: Didn't mean anything by it, I'd still keep your bike though and save for a 600 or a 400 like this one
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=78248974

cheers

Hey, lol s'all good dude... I don't think it was worth red rep, my spelling is horrid most of the time so I don't mind/care when people help me along :p That is a really nice bike. Still dunno what I'm gunna do about the Cookie Monster, but either way I have time to think about it.

Thanks to every one for their advice/comments etc... the more the better!!

Jas

[Mental Trousers]

Sorry if that came across a bit snotty and preachy, (as a fellow KB member felt it did and red rep'ed me for it - thanks RENAL MESS TUTOR (an anagram to protect the cowardly).:dodge:

It's spelt Mental-Trousers for those that are lazy.

A different response to red rep for a change rather than the usual /cry WAH RED REP WAH WAH.

EDIT: nope I was wrong. There was an accompanying wah pm. Oh well ....

[dawnrazor]

It's spelt Mental-Trousers for those that are lazy.

A different response to red rep for a change rather than the usual /cry WAH RED REP WAH WAH.

Now come on, RENAL MESS TUTOR is funny....

[Kyle]

Id say keep the mint gsx for commuting, at least untill you get your full. But also consider this. If you can pickup a cheaper end cbr/vfr/zxr 400/600 or something like that, wouldn`t even have to be road legal, you could turn it into a track bike. dont need a license for track days. yeah yeah! And there is nothing like having a cheap old beat up bike for the track, lets you go faster because your not thinking about wrecking it as much. And let me tell you my 75,000k, steel frame, 12year old cbr600 can still get up and boogie with the young`uns.

[Meekey_Mouse]

Id say keep the mint gsx for commuting, at least untill you get your full. But also consider this. If you can pickup a cheaper end cbr/vfr/zxr 400/600 or something like that, wouldn`t even have to be road legal, you could turn it into a track bike. dont need a license for track days. yeah yeah! And there is nothing like having a cheap old beat up bike for the track, lets you go faster because your not thinking about wrecking it as much. And let me tell you my 75,000k, steel frame, 12year old cbr600 can still get up and boogie with the young`uns.

I was thinking about that, still am... but I don't think I could pay for it and then keep up the mechanical costs of 2 bikes.

I don't know any thing mechanically so I can't really do much myself, although I am trying to learn as much as I can and will try do the simple mechanical stuff on my bike. I don't think I could do enough mechanical work if any thing busted in the cheap track bike to get it running again. Don't really want to have a busted bike in the garage doin nothing

[Kyle]

You just need a few "pit crew" for that stuff, parents, friends etc with mechanical knowledge all make good slaves, err pit crew. :Punk:

[Toaster]

I upgraded from a GSX250 quickly... it's a good bike worth mastering first before moving on.... or you can do what I did and say to heck with it and buy something with more grunt... I did the latter but would have benefitted more by sticking with the 250 longer.

[SwanTiger]

Sell that Suzuki heap of shit, what the fuck were you thinking buying such a disrespected brand of Motorcycle, huh? Buy yourself a minta' Honda Hornet 250 and have the seat modified to rectify your height problem.

If your old man has a bit of coin get on his chain and scope out a Cagiva Mito 125 or Cagiva Raptor 125, or even one of the new Aprillia RS125 sex-machines. Respect.

Then when you have your full license put it up on Trade Me and include a pair of your soiled undies. You'll get double the price, I promise you, there are plenty of dirty old bastards on this site!

[Karma]

And some young dirty bastards too...

[McJim]

I thought those GSX thingumies pumped out 35bhp? All you need to do is drop it a gear and redline it to overtake..if that doesn't do the trick then the vehicle you are following is too fast to overtake.

Keep the bike - you'll just lose money for no real reason.

[jeremysprite]

Why hasn't anyone suggested buying a stroker? (Now someone will tell me it's stupid) Apart from your lack of mechanical skills, which would soon be rectified through necessity, an RG150 or KRR150(ZX, they look mean) would be great. It'll be fast compared to the parallel twin, handle nicely, and after selling your GSX for $5000 (a guess), you'll have $2500 in the bank (after buying a nice stroker) for your next bike. Or for tassels.

[MSTRS]

I upgraded from a GSX250 quickly... it's a good bike worth mastering first before moving on.... or you can do what I did and say to heck with it and buy something with more grunt... I did the latter but would have benefitted more by sticking with the 250 longer.

Wise words...you listening MM?

[James Deuce]

Ask yourself this.

Do you want a reliable bike with good weather protection and comfort, or a torture rack that is old, thrashed to death by a bunch of clueless dolts, and will cost you three times what I reckon a bike that will have been written off a couple of times is worth?

I went on a TSS 250cc ride once, and one of the guys there kept whinging about how slow his ZXR250 was. Stew gave him the TL1000S and then proceded to leave everyone wallowing in his dust - including on some very long straight bits of road.

It's not what you ride. It's how you ride it.

[Meekey_Mouse]

Hmmm... Thanks every one for all the advice :yes: I'm thinkin I'll keep the GSX and possibly go into bucket racing with a cheap lil bike.

That way I have a reliable bike for commuting on yet still get my thrill on the track with a bike that doesn't really matter and is easy to do the mechanical work on. I'm still thinking about it, but either way I'm not gunna rush into any thing :calm:

What do you people think?

[yungatart]

What do you people think?

It sounds like you are thinking straight now! Keep the GSX and find something else for hooning on. Be the best rider you can be on your 250, when the time comes to get into something bigger, you will have the skills to handle it.
Don't think of your 250 as a SLOW machine, think of it as a learning curve.

[ZorsT]

Hmmm... Thanks every one for all the advice :yes: I'm thinkin I'll keep the GSX and possibly go into bucket racing with a cheap lil bike.

That way I have a reliable bike for commuting on yet still get my thrill on the track with a bike that doesn't really matter and is easy to do the mechanical work on. I'm still thinking about it, but either way I'm not gunna rush into any thing :calm:

What do you people think?
sounds like the best plan yet.

(Make the track bike a 2-smoker)

[Toaster]

Hmmm...

What do you people think?

If you feel at ease with that, then it's probably (and sounds to me) like a sensible move. All the best!

[Quartermile]

Hmmm... Thanks every one for all the advice :yes: I'm thinkin I'll keep the GSX and possibly go into bucket racing with a cheap lil bike.

That way I have a reliable bike for commuting on yet still get my thrill on the track with a bike that doesn't really matter and is easy to do the mechanical work on. I'm still thinking about it, but either way I'm not gunna rush into any thing :calm:

What do you people think?


I think you should either keep it or sell it to a good home . . . Like mine:yes:

[Wasp]

when I sold my vtz I wanted soimething faster - problem is with a 250 all your doing is taking the raw grunt of the vtwin and changing it into and il4 - you just get more top end and lose the low down power/torque.

entirely depends on what you want to do in riding - just be aware hooning around at 100+ km/h speeds is dangerous and costly

[Trudes]

Stick with what you have, I am sure that you haven't found your bike's limits yet...

For sure, or your limits either probably. Learn all you can from it first.

[Cibby]

no 250 is going to keep you happy for long jaz, cbr's are pretty cool but you are looking at $6000 + for a decent one.

Take the time to learn all you can, and then upgrade when you get your full, the experience and time riding will be well worth it..

dont be an idiot like your ol cuz here who thought she could ride real good and then wrote off two bikes..

: )

[Twig]

Save your money, keep the GSX and get a bucket!!! At the end of the day it's only 15 months (maybe less)!!!

[Bend-it]

Where's Dover? I'll just have to do it then...

Sell everything, buy a gsxr thou

[The_Dover]

sorry I was just partaking in a seated pissing contest???

umm, yeah wot bend-it said.

if you have kids, sell them too and buy a spare one. you'll need it.

[Meekey_Mouse]

sorry I was just partaking in a seated pissing contest???

umm, yeah wot bend-it said.

if you have kids, sell them too and buy a spare one. you'll need it.

Oh darn!! So that's what kids are for eh?!

Big thanks to every one... I'll be keepin the GSX 250 (sorry Dover) and gettin most likely a bucket, although a 400cc race bike is still very tempting, I think learning on a bucket would be best. Still gotta try get some money before I can buy a bucket though!
Thanks every one :Punk:

[Bend-it]

Oh darn!! So that's what kids are for eh?!


Yup, they are a compulsory savings scheme for replacing wrecked gixxers. Didn't you know that?

[Karma]

sorry I was just partaking in a seated pissing contest

Emasculated.

[gijoe1313]

On ya fer' thinking about things and asking for some advice (some useful, some doverish! :msn-wink) And that will be a new neologism for KB to contribute to the world! Keep your bike and ride it for all it's worth - as someone wise said, if you must - get a Hornet (oh wait, I'm biased!)

I'm loving every moment on my little ol'twofiddy wheels of goodness - you just need to pootle around to sights unknown and then you will appreciate your ride! (Heck, if you want to go to Reinga - I'll even tag along to do it again!)

Good to see you have an eye on track day - I'm looking at my options for that as well! :woohoo: