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R6_kid
28th November 2006, 08:40
As anyone able to lend me a pushbike to get to work on for a month or so? It'll be kept in a locked garage at home and chained up down the corridor in view from where i work.

Only have one in the family at the moment which my father is using to get to work on already.

crashe
28th November 2006, 08:58
Got a warehouse blue 'Milano' pushbike here..... handle bars and seat adjustment to make it to your size.... as it is all lowered for my height.
Been hanging in the garage for a couple of years but still in great nick.... just have to pump up the tyres... still has its chicken strips on it.... :whistle:

You can borrow that if you want.... it does have lots of gears (about 18 I think) on it to help you go up hills.

Ixion
28th November 2006, 12:28
Got an Avanti mountain bikey thing , 18 apologies for gears , you're very welcome to borrow . Very welcome, cos then I have a perfect excuse for not doing the "ride push bike for exercise to lose weight " thing. Not that it works anyway, cos all the roads round here lead inevitably to pubs. I can throw it in the Pajero to bring it round to you if y'need. As far as I'm aware it's all good, but I'm no expert on treadlies. Seems to work for me anyway. Size is for a bloke around 5/9" or a bit more.

McJim
28th November 2006, 12:30
PM on it's way

Keystone19
28th November 2006, 12:33
Bahahahahahahahahahahahahaaaaa.....

Mr Skid
28th November 2006, 13:01
I've got something here though it might require some kenad-it..

McJim
28th November 2006, 13:03
I've got something here though it might require some kenad-it..

Yuck - it's covered in Shitmano too - not a decent Campagnolo equiped piece of kit then....:Pokey:

Mr Skid
28th November 2006, 13:06
Yuck - it's covered in Shitmano too - not a decent Campagnolo equiped piece of kit then....:Pokey:Groups sets are ok, though wheels are a bit to be desired - it has/had a set of WHR-550s and I had to pull the tires & tubes to drain them after riding in the rain.

jrandom
28th November 2006, 13:13
Yuck - it's covered in Shitmano too - not a decent Campagnolo equiped piece of kit then...

Just out of interest, why do you prefer Campy?

I ride Ultegra because I saved about a grand over equipping my bike with Chorus. Campag is very expensive here, for some reason. Yes, the guys at the shop are always going on about how I need to put Record carbon on my next bike, but, you know... WTF?

Mrs Fish rides Chorus with a compact crank, and as far as I can tell from playing on her bike, it's much of a muchness, quality-wise. My drivetrain actually seems to shift a little more smartly, which I like.

McJim
28th November 2006, 13:22
Just out of interest, why do you prefer Campy?

I ride Ultegra because I saved about a grand over equipping my bike with Chorus. Campag is very expensive here, for some reason. Yes, the guys at the shop are always going on about how I need to put Record carbon on my next bike, but, you know... WTF?

Mrs Fish rides Chorus with a compact crank, and as far as I can tell from playing on her bike, it's much of a muchness, quality-wise. My drivetrain actually seems to shift a little more smartly, which I like.

The real reason? No Bullshit?

I used to live in Italy and have a lot of friends there - I therefore like Italian stuff. Shimano and Campagnolo have been developing their groupsets neck and neck for some years now. I've also seen an agressive market dominance gained by Shimano and their statements of "If you have any Shimano components on your bike you must equip your entire bike in Shimano as it's not compatible with any other manufacturer's components" tended to stick in my throat too. In short - I like the underdog...and back in the UK there's not a lot of $ difference between Record and Dura-Ace.

jrandom
28th November 2006, 13:33
In short - I like the underdog...and back in the UK there's not a lot of $ difference between Record and Dura-Ace.

Fair enough too, and a very common attitude. If I wasn't stuck down here where every item of European import costs twice as much as it should, I'd do the same. However, like I said, in NZ you save serious coin by sticking with Shimano.

In particular, the people who spend enough on the likes of Veloce, which isn't that great, that they could have gotten Ultegra instead? That's just sad.

If Dura-Ace was good enough for Lance Armstrong, it's good enough for me, and it's going on my next ride, which will probably be a Kuota. I guess we'll just have to wait and see whether popular wisdom is correct and that combination will cause the bike to cancel itself out, anti-matter style, in an outraged explosion of uncoolness.

Ixion
28th November 2006, 13:42
,,

In particular, the people who spend enough on the likes of Veloce, which isn't that great, that they could have gotten Ultegra instead? ,,

What ? Not the Veloce? I know nothing of the rest of it, but that's a noble name with which to conjure.

McJim
28th November 2006, 13:49
What ? Not the Veloce? I know nothing of the rest of it, but that's a noble name with which to conjure.

I suspect there to be a conflict of contexts arising shortly (as I'm sure you do too!) to clarify - Veloce in this context is used to denote a bicycle groupset of the 'budget' variety manufactured by Campagnolo in Italy. Many of the bits that should be carbon fibre or at least aluminium alloy are made from plastic etc...but it does bear the brand....

Since the word 'Veloce' just means 'Fast' I suspect there to be a veritable plethora of applications of this word in the wheeled industries.

Mr Skid
28th November 2006, 13:53
I've also seen an agressive market dominance gained by Shimano and their statements of "If you have any Shimano components on your bike you must equip your entire bike in Shimano as it's not compatible with any other manufacturer's components" tended to stick in my throat too.I was reading a Shimano ad where it talked about the design of their chainrings. It infered that, although another company could produce a facsimile, unless they understood how it was designed, it wouldn't work.

Huh?
Sounds like the start to an interesting discussion on metaphysics and identity theory, but I'll still rather have a Cannondale si unidirectional carbon crank on my SystemSix thank you.

Have you seen the Campag "Complete Organism" ads however? They seem to be taking the same approach as Shimano.

I'll scan the ad's and post them, if you want.

vifferman
28th November 2006, 13:57
Yaaaaawwwwwwnnnnn.... [snore... snort....whiffle..........zzzzzzzzzzzz....]

Mr Skid
28th November 2006, 13:58
Since the word 'Veloce' just means 'Fast' I suspect there to be a veritable plethora of applications of this word in the wheeled industries.Imagine if there was a Yamaha Tiagra, or a Honda Sora RR?
I can just imagine how one would shift gears on a Sora motorbike:

To shift to a lower gear, you'd tap down on the gearshift.
To shift to a higher gear, you'd push a small button located beside your left knee.

Cheaparse.

The_Dover
28th November 2006, 13:59
you all still look like poofs in lycra whether you've got shimano or whatever....

jrandom
28th November 2006, 14:03
you all still look like poofs in lycra...

Pah. Look in the mirror next time you go riding in a saggy one-piece with a speed hump and sponsor logos all over it.

Extract the plank from thine own eye...

Mr Skid
28th November 2006, 14:11
Did you say lycra?

The_Dover
28th November 2006, 14:12
leather is for safety.

lycra is for Aerobics Oz Style.

MisterD
28th November 2006, 14:21
Just out of interest, why do you prefer Campy?



You seen the SRAM gear yet then? I've been running Gripshift on the MTB for years so it might be time for the road bike to get the upgrade too

jrandom
28th November 2006, 14:37
You seen the SRAM gear yet then?

I'm not an early adopter. Once the new SRAM road groupset has acquired a reputation one way or the other, I might consider it. There is also the consideration that my mechanic won't be familiar with it, etc.

Do you know if there are there any bike shops in Auckland showcasing it?

McJim
28th November 2006, 14:40
I was reading a Shimano ad where it talked about the design of their chainrings. It infered that, although another company could produce a facsimile, unless they understood how it was designed, it wouldn't work.

Huh?
Sounds like the start to an interesting discussion on metaphysics and identity theory, but I'll still rather have a Cannondale si unidirectional carbon crank on my SystemSix thank you.

Have you seen the Campag "Complete Organism" ads however? They seem to be taking the same approach as Shimano.

I'll scan the ad's and post them, if you want.

The point is that Shimano came up with that bullshit first - that was the point where I looked and said "So my Miche hubs won't fit with my Sachs sprocket and shimano brakes with suntour cranks?" Bugger - I'll have to get campag brakes coz there are no compatability issues" and was in 1984...there was no Chorus or Veloce or Athena or Croce D'aun...there was Triomphe and Victoire and C Record...ahhh those heady days when we all wanted a 531c frameset....

jrandom
28th November 2006, 14:40
lycra is for Aerobics Oz Style.

Lycra is for stopping your skin from grating off and bleeding like fuck during hard exertion.

Leather is for men with handlebar mustaches named Maurice.

jrandom
28th November 2006, 14:41
in 1984... ahhh those heady days when we all wanted a 531c frameset....

In 1984, I had a little plastic shoe with wheels on it that I paddled around the lounge floor with my bare feet.

McJim
28th November 2006, 14:48
In 1984, I had a little plastic shoe with wheels on it that I paddled around the lounge floor with my bare feet.

Funny you should say that - sounds like what my sons are doing about now.

I remember when your brake cables came out the top of the levers.
I remember when weinmann centrepulls were a pretty neat idea.
I remember when gear levers were on the downtube.
I remember falling off coz I couldn't get my toe straps undone.
I remember when 10 gears was enough to get you up any hill.
I remember Bernard Hinault wearing funny shoes and thinking "that'll never catch on"!

jrandom
28th November 2006, 15:01
Funny you should say that - sounds like what my sons are doing about now.

Sounds like your sons are about the same age that my son is and that I was in 1984.

Some have accused me of getting into the breeding side of things a little too hastily. I usually reply by pointing out that by the time I'm your age, I'll be able to kick the kids out into the harsh, cruel world and enjoy my mid-life crisis in peace.

MisterD
28th November 2006, 15:51
I'm not an early adopter. Once the new SRAM road groupset has acquired a reputation one way or the other, I might consider it. There is also the consideration that my mechanic won't be familiar with it, etc.

Do you know if there are there any bike shops in Auckland showcasing it?

Dunno yet, but I was having a yarn to my mechanic about it and like the idea of the linear derailleur...didn't twig until then that SRAM incorporates what used to be Sachs...

MisterD
28th November 2006, 15:57
I remember when

I remember when saddles all had three holes along the top
I remember when index shifting was for softies
I remember the great Biopace chainring debate
I remember when Mavic was the coolest label to have on your wheels - thank god some things don't change.

Mom
28th November 2006, 16:08
As anyone able to lend me a pushbike to get to work on for a month or so? It'll be kept in a locked garage at home and chained up down the corridor in view from where i work.

Only have one in the family at the moment which my father is using to get to work on already.

Nice call Gareth.......just think you will get fitter too........:scooter:

Brett
28th November 2006, 18:36
LMAO at you Gareth!!!!! Bahahahhahahhahahahha

Dude i have a freestyle BMX that needs the tyres pumped up and some new brakes, but you are more than welcome to borrow it. Good stunt bike it is.

R6_kid
28th November 2006, 18:45
Nice call Gareth.......just think you will get fitter too........:scooter:

at 20kms each way i think i'll get a little bit more than just 'fit'

cowpoos
28th November 2006, 18:46
at 20kms each way i think i'll get a little bit more than just 'fit'
get hungery??? there a bakery on the way?

R6_kid
28th November 2006, 18:47
LMAO at you Gareth!!!!! Bahahahhahahhahahahha

Dude i have a freestyle BMX that needs the tyres pumped up and some new brakes, but you are more than welcome to borrow it. Good stunt bike it is.

haha cheers bro, i was thinking about that on the bus on the way home from work today... would tie in nicely with getting a pit bike. But theres some decent sized hills for me to get up so having the luxury of a geared mountain bike is slightly more appealing.

R6_kid
28th November 2006, 18:49
get hungery??? there a bakery on the way?

haha im sure they'll be a few mate, gotta ride through west auckland

Mr. Peanut
29th November 2006, 00:16
Got an Avanti mountain bikey thing , 18 apologies for gears , you're very welcome to borrow . Very welcome, cos then I have a perfect excuse for not doing the "ride push bike for exercise to lose weight " thing. Not that it works anyway, cos all the roads round here lead inevitably to pubs. I can throw it in the Pajero to bring it round to you if y'need. As far as I'm aware it's all good, but I'm no expert on treadlies. Seems to work for me anyway. Size is for a bloke around 5/9" or a bit more.

How IS that going? Want me to chase you round the garden? :blink:

insane1
29th November 2006, 01:15
i have a mountain bike that you can have if you want you know where i live pm me.