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jeremysprite
7th December 2006, 11:00
My very best mate (he is now, anyway) went away for the weekend, and was kind enough to lend me his 1990(?) CBR250 R, only done 9,000k's. Very mint condition. This is my impression of it, going from FXR to CBR

Pros:
Sound is just magical. I'd always keep it in 1st or 2nd, just to hear that note way up the range, like a screaming monster. It's great fun riding around town, giving it a little throttle in the crowded streets of Queenstown, and have people in their flash beemers eyeing you up.

Featherweight clutch. I didn't realise how heavy the FXR one was, but it was really different. Lack of contact point feel also led to a few stalls.

Acceleration is good obviously, compared to the FXR, we (flatmate, 85kgs, on the cibby and me, 60kgs, on the fixxer) we would tie up to about 65k's, then the CBR would pull away, but it could also be because flatmate is only a learner so isn't the hottest at high rev gear changes (and we very careful with the cibby, it's very precious)
So someone else would probably give me the learn straight off the line.

It's nice cruising at 100k's, it takes a wee bit of effort to push it up to 120, and I'd assume some longer shifts to accelerate to 140-150 zone, which is good in that it won't lose you your license unless you're deliberatley pushing it up to those speeds, and if you want to overtake, you have an excuse to hear that weeeoooarrrrrhhhhh.

Very stable on the road, front end feels planted but has the potential for a really sharp turner, given the right rider. Large, wide bike compared to the fxr, but seems like a lower seat, can reach the ground reasonably easy. Pretty light to push around, backstep out of a parking space or whatever. Wind buffeting is low, until you start to go into that weeeoaoorrrrhhhh zone in 5/6th.

Looks pretty sweet. High beams on it are AMAZING. I mean, I can see, like, 20-25m in front of me at night! Very cool.

Being an inline 4 I guess, the engine heats the alluminium(?) frame up, and riding in the hot sun it was kinda annoying, especially with non-breathing pants on. It was nice at night though, legs were toasty warm.

Cons:
Idle is annoying, it stalls really easily even after a long warm day ride. Probably just needs the idle screw adjusted, but Chris(flatmate) got left behind 'cos it stalled.

10L tank isn't the best, I'd probably upgrade it to a later model tank with bigger range, only get around 190k's, which is pretty good for a 10L, but the thing has no fuel gauge or reserve light. Don't even know if it has a reserve, I think it just runs onto it...

Speed light that turns on at 90k. Ugh.

6th gear is a bit strange, is it a cruising gear? Only small difference between the 5th and 6th sounds/revs, so it led to a few *clutch in, strong shift with foot, ow, it's in top, clutch out* moments. No gear position indicator, found it a bit difficult coming from the FXR with a dig display. Made especially difficult that I thought it was a 5 speed, changing from 3rd to 2nd, thinking it was 2nd to 1st, trying to find neutral... Lol


-Overall-
Very nice bike, very refined. The sound on it is great (think its got an aft m. exhaust) Gave my friend the learn on my FXR though, I'm just way more confident on it, and he's not to great round the curves yet, it'll be fun when he finally gets a bike and improves.

It's so much fun riding with a partner! I've never been on a group or even 2 person ride, and it was so much fun! Way better blasting down to Bob's Cove with a mate than by yourself. Planning to go to Wanaka over the Crown Range, hopefully with flatmate's girlfriend's flatmate (GSXR 750, '90 ish)

THE FXR, after my CBR riding.
Seat felt like a plank of wood, and it was weird how skinny it was. Handlebars were a bit cramped. But it felt real good passing a campervan AND flatmate when he couldn't do it, on a bigger bike. And of course, racing away in front going through the Dalefield loop.
My mirrors suck. I can hardly tell if that black smidge on the vibing mirror is the cibby or a lowflying raincloud.
The sound of the fxr is still nice, throbbing kinda sound instead of a smooth winding up sound.

So yeah, CBR's are a nice bike, and riding with a partner is fun fun fun! I think a n00b rider would cope okay on a CBR (don't know about a RR), as long as they have the mental control not to go too fast at first, as it could be scary for a new rider.

:rockon:

slinky
7th December 2006, 11:07
i went from fxr to a CBR250RR
huge difference!
i went to drop my fxr off to new owner.

when on fxr i always thought i was quite far foward.... lol
after being on teh cbr i felt up right. the bike felt tiny, and skinny like you said!

jeremysprite
7th December 2006, 12:23
Yeah I would like a CBR, they're very nice, and the mileage ain't bad on them either - 185k's to a 10L tank, commuting. It's no hyosung, but good for a 15 yo sports bike.

Grub
7th December 2006, 12:35
We've had an FXR for a year ... just sold to some lucky 16 yo learner in Chch (take it easy).

I loved (almost) everything about the FXR. It's looks, it's huge (350km) tank, it's nippiness around town, the way I could take it down to the pegs on a windy road.

I hated the way they run out of gas in the bowl when at full throttle, 9,500rpm, 95kmh, against a Welly Wind. The gas just can't gravity feed fast enough past the needle.

It was my partners (learner) bike, it got me back into biking and onto my fabulous CBR600. I owe that FXR a lot.

Brett

jeremysprite
7th December 2006, 13:22
lol this has turned into more of an FXR plug than a CBR review!
Anyone got a completish CBR w/ a seized/no engine, repair work needed or summat like that?

Toast
7th December 2006, 14:00
Looks pretty sweet. High beams on it are AMAZING. I mean, I can see, like, 20-25m in front of me at night! Very cool.


Is the FXR really that bad in the first place? I know that going from my CBR250R to an '02 ZX6R (which has supposedly some of the best lights of any sportsbike), the difference was massive.

jeremysprite
7th December 2006, 14:07
Um, yup. Probably the difference btween your CBR and ZXR 4 times over. It's a commuter, not a nighttime cruiser, and it's got 20w bulbs to prove it. I also somehow managed to make my dim's change from both headlights on dip, to one headlight on full, and two headlights for full beam. No idea how I did it, just noticed when I was riding. Could almost mistake it for an R1 now...

slinky
7th December 2006, 14:12
We've had an FXR for a year ... just sold to some lucky 16 yo learner in Chch (take it easy).

I loved (almost) everything about the FXR. It's looks, it's huge (350km) tank,

Brett

:D hehe, i could get 450 from mine
i got a shock when i got on the CBR, i got into reserver, thinking i would be fine, after 30 ks or so i ran outta petrol (just as i got to school)
lol, reserver on the fxr was more like 100 ks.
was a great bike!

Grub
7th December 2006, 14:16
Have to admit the FXR light is excellent ... for inspecting the front tread (but not much else)

Grub
7th December 2006, 14:21
:D hehe, i could get 450 from mine

Clearly you weren't trying to do a 60km round trip @ 100 kliks against a Welly NE Wind with yer elbows under yer armpits, yer knees wrapped around the cylinder and yer eyeballs holding hands under the tank:innocent:

jeremysprite
7th December 2006, 15:53
Yeah I think I've managed 420 before, it's just too far to ride slowly though... and then I'm always scared of running outta fuel it'd suck.
If the FXR had a more powerful engine I'd put some ram air ducts on it and reclaim back another 4 litres or so thats scooped out for air intake. Give it a real good range, like 600ks :rockon:

slinky
7th December 2006, 15:59
yeh i think i took my chances with the 450.
it was good having the 4th sector of the gauge split into 4 smaller sections.

and no, i didn't have to fight off the wellington wind! lol