What the hell kind of "parenting" is this?!?! [Archive]

Paul in NZ

10th December 2006, 08:29

Crasherfromwayback

10th December 2006, 08:34

"It's only the first time. We always look after our children..."

Stooopid fucks should be steralised so they can't pollute the general population with more trash.

Looking after them REAL well weren't they.....if it wasn't so bad....it'd almost be funny.:sick:

sAsLEX

10th December 2006, 08:59

I love the quote about 'New Zealands terrible drinking culture'.....

Piss orf - drinking is bloody wonderful but burbon at 10am? Followed by whatever else and at 17?? saying its a national problem is just wet cop out trying to blame society for a small groups shocking abuse and bad parenting. Pathetic

Most of them were 14.

Now if I was a judge/cop I would be doing whoever supplied them with the alcohol and premises to drink it on, Ie their grandmother and giving them a damn good arse kicking as its this "whanu's" "elders" who are meant to teach their kids respect.......

Wasp27

10th December 2006, 09:21

F.F.S.....This isn't my fault.... This isn't your fault.... It's their fault. I worry for my Grandchildren having to 'share' this great country with vermin such as these. When are we going to see politicians with enough guts to take away the handouts. Lets see them survive on their own merits. Remove these degenerates from our society. THIS OUR COUNTRY, we work bloody hard and pay more than our fair share to ensure our families have a decent standard of living and a home to call their own. This behaviour makes a mockery of everything decent. I for one am absolutely sick of hearing about this crap, aren't you. I think we are being taken for mugs........ Whats plan 'B' ????

SlashWylde

10th December 2006, 09:52

One of the girls is now expected to lose a leg. But I expect that's OK in the eyes of the 'parents'. After all, "it's only the first time" she's lost a limb.....

Article here (http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/story.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10414678&ref=rss)

yungatart

10th December 2006, 09:55

We now have second and subsequent generations of kids in NZ who have been/are being brought up by parents who have never been parented adequately and so do not have the knowledge or skill to be able to pass on how it is done.
I don't profess to know the answers but I have six kids aged from 31 to 15. While none of them are perfect, they are all great kids and we are very proud of them all.
I always made a point of getting to know their friends and their friends parents, and needed to know where they were going, who with and what time they would be home.
If you are going to give young teens large quantities of alcohol, you are asking for trouble. Too much attention is paid to "rights" and not enough to "responsibilities".
Plan B? Let me know the details Wasp 27, I'm with you!
Something needs to be done now, before our society and all we value, self -combusts in to oblivion.

McJim

10th December 2006, 10:25

I'm very pleased to see that my two sons will have little or no competition for all the best jobs when they grow up.

Keep it up New Zealand - so glad I moved here. :rofl:

Hitcher

10th December 2006, 11:29

Darwinism at work. Let them at it, as long as they don't kill or maim me and mine.

BAD DAD

10th December 2006, 13:58

Darwinism at work ? Probably true to a large extent BUT accellerated by a sickly sweet dose of socialism.

BAD DAD

10th December 2006, 14:01

How do you spell acellerated? xcellerated excellerated acs... what?

TLDV8

10th December 2006, 14:09

Darwinism at work. Let them at it, as long as they don't kill or maim me and mine.

It seems they have the same attitude but in reverse...As long as it doesn't effect me mentality.. :niceone:

Edbear

10th December 2006, 14:15

Darwinism at work. Let them at it, as long as they don't kill or maim me and mine.

Trouble is, Hitch, they so often do maim and kill innocents. If it was just them on the roads, it wouldn't be so bad, but my wife and kids drive too...

Parents should be charged and the kid should be charged with attempted manslaughter or some such.

Hitcher

10th December 2006, 14:17

How do you spell acellerated? xcellerated excellerated acs... what?

Accelerated. Try www.dictionary.com.

McJim

10th December 2006, 15:08

How do you spell acellerated? xcellerated excellerated acs... what?

Went faster and faster and faster.....or fasterer if you like.

ZeroIndex

10th December 2006, 15:10

Bring back the cane!!!

haha, the cocaine.. (reminiscing thoughts of an old Ali G video..)

um.. so, if they get away with doing a runner from the cops we can too? it's only fair..

Fub@r

10th December 2006, 18:20

Parents should be charged and the kid should be charged with attempted manslaughter or some such.

The whole screwed up thing about NZ drinking laws, its not really illegal for minors to drink, just that they cant purchase it themselves. Can't believe that mother openly admitted buying the alcohol in the first place and then to turn around and say she would do it again!!!!!!!!!

All we need is more people like this to write themselves off (without taking innocents with them) as they will only be a burden on the taxpayer in the future.

Harry33

10th December 2006, 19:03

I'm very pleased to see that my two sons will have little or no competition for all the best jobs when they grow up.

Keep it up New Zealand - so glad I moved here. :rofl:

I hear what your saying but your kids taxes will be paying for these stupid fucks and their offspring for the rest of there lives.
It seems to be in this day and age that the smart hard working people get know help at all and the (....fill in the blanks) get everything handed to them. I hope one day that a goverment comes to power and cuts all the handouts. You don't work you don't eat. You break the law you get locked up.....sorry I was dreaming.

sunhuntin

10th December 2006, 19:07

I hear what your saying but your kids taxes will be paying for these stupid fucks and their offspring for the rest of there lives.
It seems to be in this day and age that the smart hard working people get know help at all and the (....fill in the blanks) get everything handed to them. I hope one day that a goverment comes to power and cuts all the handouts. You don't work you don't eat. You break the law you get locked up.....sorry I was dreaming.

you get my vote anyday.
i hate the fact the money i work hard for gets sliced and pays for those too lazy to work, or pays for those to live a cushy life in prison where they no longer have a right to life [murderers, rapists etc] one of my best friends was murdered [and worse] on her 20th birthday. it burns me to think her parents money is contributing to the killers life of luxury.

riffer

10th December 2006, 20:11

Hang on a minute here.

The kids are probably too young to be charged with anything. "But if I don't give him what he wants he'll run away," said the mother on the news tonight.

As far as I know, supply of alcohol to a minor is legal as long as they will consume it in a private setting.

So strictly speaking, the parents didn't do anything illegal.

Sure it's morally reprehensible, but in our modern secular society there is very little room for morals.

South Auckland. Non-white family. Didn't see a father around either.

Why am I so not surprised...

:angry: woe betide any of my children if they ever try anything like this.

apteryx_haasti

10th December 2006, 20:18

I got grounded for an entire summer once for coming home from a lunchtime BBQ at about 8.30pm - for not letting my parents know where I had got to.

That was not a good summer....

Paul in NZ

10th December 2006, 20:20

Then again - I suppose when someone asks them what they got upto in the weekend 'Ah we got legless' will have a whole new meaning... very sad and what a burden to the tax payer...

Ixion

10th December 2006, 20:31

I got grounded for an entire summer once for coming home from a lunchtime BBQ at about 8.30pm - for not letting my parents know where I had got to.

That was not a good summer....

I thought apteryx haasti was always grounded. Do you know something the ornithologists have missed. :rofl:

Hillbilly

10th December 2006, 21:06

AHA! Now you know why I live on this side on the Tasman!!

Bend-it

11th December 2006, 08:16

So they decided to use discretion not to charge these dimwitted imbecilic maggots sipshit punkfaces but couldn't exercise that "discretion" with a Mr Carvell...

I'm pissed off.

dnos

11th December 2006, 08:44

That is fucking ridiculous and i also am pissed off.
I too think it is disgusting that those kids drunk all frickin day at their families house and then were allowed to drive home drunk! They then decide to do a runner from the cops and crash, and will probably get off with a lame warning or something. I just can't understand that parents and grandparents would allow something like this too happen, I am unable to relate to it as it is completely different to the way I was brought up along with all my friends.
Absolutely disgusting.

35tickets

11th December 2006, 08:53

get with the program its ALL the polices fault for chasing them......pity they wernt all killed in the crash that way society wont have to worry about what they do next

Couldn't agree more ..... now expect lengthy tax payer funded court proceedings, assuming its gets that far, where each of the little bastards will have their own lawyer, saying they didn't do anything wrong.

As for the parents..... well nothing surprises me there...talk about lead by example. The police should throw the book at the kids AND the parents. Fuck there's enough advertising on the TV telling us not to drink and drive, did these fuckers think they were above the law?

Lteejay

11th December 2006, 10:40

I'm very pleased to see that my two sons will have little or no competition for all the best jobs when they grow up.

Keep it up New Zealand - so glad I moved here. :rofl:

LOL.

I agree with Hitcher as well, Darwinism at its best - the only problem is they do tend to knock others out of the gene pool with them

MSTRS

11th December 2006, 10:49

....did these fuckers think they were above the law?

No. It's white man's law. It doesn't apply to them. Nor do the laws of physics. Nor the laws of cause and effect.

riffer

11th December 2006, 11:09

As for the parents..

I'm sorry - I must have missed the bit where they talked to BOTH parents. I stand corrected - I thought there was only one parent. :mellow:

apteryx_haasti

11th December 2006, 11:49

It gets better...

Car chase teen pledges to drink and drive again
11 December 2006

A teenager whose high-speed drink-driving left his girlfriend in hospital is promising to drink and drive again. Rae Rae, 16, has admitted drinking heavily before driving his Toyota early on Saturday in South Auckland.

He had three other teenaged passengers and during a police pursuit the car crashed into a lamp post and caught fire. Anita Matangi was pulled injured from the car and remains in hospital.

"I would do it again but with no-one in the car besides me. I would drink and drive again with just me in the car," Rae told National Radio.

His younger sister was also injured in the crash.

Rae said he had been drinking alcohol including beer and pre-mixed drinks. "Too much to drink for me to be behind the wheel."

His sister estimated Rae hit 180kmh in a 50kmh zone.

Another sister said Rae would not have learned his lesson and would be enjoying the publicity. Alcohol watch groups and police have slammed the behaviour and that of family and friends who supply young teenagers with alcohol.

Rae's mother told National Radio she gave her son alcohol and would not be punishing him. "Every time I told him not to drink too much but he don't listen. He ignore it," she said.

"I don't blame him because he was working hard. He needs something to relax."

Police said the incident would be investigated by the police complaints authority. They have not so far said whether Rae is likely to face charges.

Oooh, goooood.

Squeak the Rat

11th December 2006, 11:54

I tried grounding my kids but they don't listen and just leave. What am I supposed to do, smack them?

DingDong

11th December 2006, 12:24

ahhh to be young again... when everything revolved around getting a shot off:yes:

The "whitemans law" comment was uncalled for... I'm white, I was a bad-ass, I run from the cops, I rolled cars and I didnt give a fuck what the cops wanted... things are different now tho':innocent:

riffer

11th December 2006, 12:53

You know, he must be one hell of a driver to manage to get 180km/hr out of a Toyota Ipsum ... :dodge:

Fub@r

11th December 2006, 13:35

"Another sister said Rae would not have learned his lesson and would be enjoying the publicity"

Bloody typical, to a normal person they would be ashamed of this kind of publicity, but in South Auckland this is good publicity?

I get hacked off working around south auckland at times especailly in the schools. I use a Theodilite to take measurements but man these guys make my job so hard as despite all my explanations they all jump around in front of me, pose, do the gangsta bullshit because they are convinced its a camera!

And as a contrast I was at a North Shore school one day when this young boy asked if it was a camera and this 6 yr old girl walks past and says

"don't be stupid, its not a camera its a theodilite" :shit:

mstriumph

11th December 2006, 13:45

deMOCKracy in action, methinks :yes:

onearmedbandit

11th December 2006, 15:03

Fuck him, if he makes a threat like this the ban him from driving a car ever again. Sure, he will still do it but when he needs to take his pregnant 15yr old g/f to hospital he can be pulled over and arrested. When he needs to do anything that requires driving, and he does, he will be arrested. And if that doesn't work incapacitate him so he can no longer drive a car. I'm thinking poke both eyes out with a hot iron, remove both arms at the shoulders, and remove his legs.

How come I can see us reading about another smash this fuckwit is in within 2yrs?

Squeak the Rat

11th December 2006, 15:05

With you on that one OAB. He's basically saying he's intending to kill some one. Surely that's enough to put him out of action. In the old days it would be enough for him to go into a loony bin......

FilthyLuka

11th December 2006, 15:14

beat the fuckers! hmm... spose thats the balkan genes in me talking... but then again, if i ever threatened my slipper weilding mum with child services, all i got back was "samo probai" (just try...)

Seriously now, they dont listen to reason, so perhaps fear should me the medium of discipline... If they fear you they dont fuck with you! damnit parents, attend a jandal-jujitsu class and keep ya kids in line! (P/T)

imdying

11th December 2006, 15:24

Boyfriends at 14 indeed! Little sluts...

elle-f

12th December 2006, 05:56

apteryx_haasti

12th December 2006, 06:32

"It's only the first time. We always look after our children..."

How can you look after your children when you really dont give a shit about them in the first place? Supplying teens with alcohol then letting them drink drive and then saying its ok because its the first time kinda doesnt seem like looking after them..........

Wot she said! It's a crazy crazy attitude coming from that family...although I see on stuff this morning that he's now saying (after being interviewed on Campbell Live) that he won't do it again...

Believe it when I see it (although personally if I can see this twat, he's too close!!!)

trumpy

12th December 2006, 06:52

.......How come I can see us reading about another smash this fuckwit is in within 2yrs?

Probably not. My pick is that he will be behind bars by then as another victim of an uncaring society blah, blah, blah........(at least he won't be able to drive while he's there).
If there are no contingent consequences to a behaviour any change in that behaviour is very unlikely other than for a type of desensitisation process to set in. Don't have to be a genius to figure out the future path for this guy then.
I have seen the "Broken Windows" policy at work in the USA. When will our dumbass politicians realise that it has been successful for good behavioural not cultural (or other) reasons?! Probably about the same time our most senior police stop licking Helen's boots....