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Gunner
13th December 2006, 18:44
In my quest to find the perfect Bike Cam, I think I have found a pretty good one.

Its Called "Oregon Scientific" and costs $200. Available from Noel Leemings
This camera is water proof, shock proof, has audio and records the footage inside the camera via a SD card or the 32mb internal memory.

The excelent thing about this is, The camera is all you need to do everything except view the movies on the camera as it has no viewfinder.

Comes with handle bar mount, flat mount, velcro straps, rubber strap, silicon grease for the O rings, sticky rubber and velcro pads, USB cable, and A/V cable.

Uses 2x AA batteries which last a very long time.
Video Modes:
High - 640x480 30fps, 640x480 15fps
Med - 320x240 30fps, 320x240 15fps
Lo - 160x120 30fps, 160x120 15fps
All in AVI format
Dimensions : 40mm dia x 110mm long

Has 3 buttons on top, ON/OFF, RECORD, MENU.
Takes up to a max 2GB SD card, which records 1HR's footage at the highest resolution. Has a base that swivels.
The exposure works really well and so does the focusing (has a really large fixed focus length)
Plug it into the computer to download/watch and it also works as a mass storage device, plug it into a tv for direct playback. Or delete the clips on the camera itself via the menu.


CONS.
The mic isnt very sensitive, because its water proof its behind the plastic/rubber housing.
The flat base that it comes with needs to be a little bit larger to make it more stable.
Its small rubber buttons makes it hard to turn on/off with gloves on.
AVI format only.
Maximum 2Gig SD card =1HR, you could try a 4Gig and see if it works.

Heres a few pics, screen shots and a video clip. (converted the clip to 320x240 wmv so I could upload)
The camera falls off in the clip, but I had made up a saftey line on it, was attached with magnets onto my tank and the vibrations was resonating up into the cameras mic making it sound funny with the revs of the bike.
Was my first attempt of mounting this camera on the bike so will come up with a better way next time.

Gunner
13th December 2006, 18:51
Will prob use this as my main camera setup instead of my spycams and camcorder as its so quick to setup and use.

Hitcher
13th December 2006, 19:08
Was that balanced on top of your tankbag, or something? Clearly you have an adhesion problem.

TerminalAddict
13th December 2006, 19:09
wow dude .. you did a back flip :gob:

Gunner
13th December 2006, 19:34
Was that balanced on top of your tankbag, or something? Clearly you have an adhesion problem.

Just stuck some strong magnets on the flat base atachment that comes with the camera and stuck it to the tank.
The base needs to be bigger, the length of the camera is more than the base so its a bit tipsy forward. Easily fixed tho.

limbimtimwim
13th December 2006, 20:58
If you just plug it into a TV, does it just display what it is seeing? Ie. when not playing back.

Gunner
13th December 2006, 21:25
If you just plug it into a TV, does it just display what it is seeing? Ie. when not playing back.

No, as soon as you plug it into a tv or similar and turn it on, it brings up a playback menu only.

Kendog
13th December 2006, 21:33
I saw this advertised and thought it looked pretty good.

Thanks for the write up, it's very tempting.

Kendog
13th December 2006, 21:36
It it the ACT2000?

Gunner
13th December 2006, 21:38
I saw this advertised and thought it looked pretty good.

Thanks for the write up, it's very tempting.

You cant go wrong really, $200 isnt much considering a standard spycam is about $50 and then you have to record it somehow. It would be good for skiing or snowboarding aswell (waterproof, shockproof).

saul
13th December 2006, 21:50
Nice clean image:rockon: very cool thanks

Kendog
13th December 2006, 21:56
Here is a good review (http://helmetcameracentral.com/2006/11/06/oregon-scientific-atc2k-atc-2000-helmet-camera/) of it.

I may have to get one.

Edit: Just read the comments from people that own this camera. Doesn't sound like it would be that great on a motorbike.
Gunner, would be interested in some some more video once you have some.

Cheers

Gunner
14th December 2006, 18:09
Here is another clip, 20 seconds long, 640x480 30fps wmv format.

sAsLEX
14th December 2006, 18:14
Any chance of uploading to youtube? For some reason my comp wont DL most attachments from KB

Gunner
14th December 2006, 20:02
uploaded video on youtube

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Kendog
14th December 2006, 20:26
That last one is a great vid.

Its not bad looking camera for $200.

Fryin Finn
15th December 2006, 07:37
Some hints - try to avoid getting the instruments in the shot - if mr plod stops you and you have been misbehaving he could swipe it and use it in evidence against you. Also if it's auto focusing, you lose the focus beyond the cockpit.:mellow:

jumma
15th December 2006, 08:39
Some hints - try to avoid getting the instruments in the shot - if mr plod stops you and you have been misbehaving he could swipe it and use it in evidence against you.

Would be stink if you put yourself in the shit like that, but that's gotta be half the reason you have a tank cam. Plus evading the cops would make a mint video;)

DMNTD
18th December 2006, 08:09
Has anyone else tried one of these?

Skunk
18th December 2006, 09:43
Has anyone else tried one of these?
Gunner has. :dodge: I'm going to get one soon. There's a few reviews on that link that was posted by Kendog on page one.

DMNTD
18th December 2006, 16:14
Gunner has. :dodge:
Oh chortle chortle! :spanking:
Oh well went out a bought one anyway for shits 'n giggles.
Should get my bike back tomorrow so once weather sorts itself I'll post some nice sedate footage :scooter: :mellow:

beyond
18th December 2006, 21:06
Hey DMNTD,

Let me know what you think. Looks like a reasonable bit of kit for the price.


:)

DMNTD
18th December 2006, 21:13
Let me know what you think. Looks like a reasonable bit of kit for the price.
Haven't had a play with it yet as someone forgot to buy batteries for it :innocent: so at the moment it's looking styley on my kitchen table.
From what I/we can make out one would be muchly disappointed if one missed out on one of these!
When I bought it from Noel Lemmings I priced up a SD card for it...same price as the camera,$200....so I've just bought one off TradeMe for $70.00 (http://www.trademe.co.nz/Electronics-photography/Memory-cards/SD-Media/2G-over/auction-81151857.htm) delivered.

Shadows
19th December 2006, 01:09
I picked one up the other day. I found a spot for it on the left fork just above the bottom triple tree. That point of view should mean that there is nothing of the bike in the picture and a full view of the road. Wind noise might be a problem though, but you can turn off the microphone if need be. I might try it out tomorrow, if the SD card arrives.

stanko
19th December 2006, 20:23
I picked one up the other day. I found a spot for it on the left fork just above the bottom triple tree. That point of view should mean that there is nothing of the bike in the picture and a full view of the road. Wind noise might be a problem though, but you can turn off the microphone if need be. I might try it out tomorrow, if the SD card arrives.


You dont need a SD card it has 32mb on board.

I went and bought one today to put on my bucket racer If I face it rearwards Ill be able to see how everyone passes me so easily.

DMNTD
19th December 2006, 20:26
You dont need a SD card it has 32mb on board.

I went and bought one today to put on my bucket racer If I face it rearwards Ill be able to see how everyone passes me so easily.

32MB internal memory is good for 51sec's I think at it's highest quality :mellow:
With a 2GB memory card...$70 off TM,it'll take it up just over an hour :yes:

Waylander
19th December 2006, 20:34
Haven't had a play with it yet as someone forgot to buy batteries for it :innocent: so at the moment it's looking styley on my kitchen table.
From what I/we can make out one would be muchly disappointed if one missed out on one of these!
When I bought it from Noel Lemmings I priced up a SD card for it...same price as the camera,$200....so I've just bought one off TradeMe for $70.00 (http://www.trademe.co.nz/Electronics-photography/Memory-cards/SD-Media/2G-over/auction-81151857.htm) delivered.



Hmm... I think one of us might have to bring a laptop to the pub next time you're down this way.

Shadows
23rd December 2006, 01:43
The bastards still haven't got my SD card. Fancy offering a deal on one with the camera... but not having one in stock in order to be able to honour the deal when it is made.
I got impatient waiting for the memory upgrade, and tried the camera out on the handlebar the other day. I decided I didn't like the fork mount idea, it was too bodged. It seems to work okay, but it would be nice to get more than a minute of footage. There might be a bit of a vibration problem to sort out, a longer vid would confirm that, this may not be too easy to resolve with a solid mounted donk and with me not wanting mount a camera on my helmet.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GWbC5sshg70

I think I captured a UFO in the top left corner of the screen, right at the end of the clip. Weird.

saul
23rd December 2006, 05:59
Oh chortle chortle! :spanking:
Oh well went out a bought one anyway for shits 'n giggles.
Should get my bike back tomorrow so once weather sorts itself I'll post some nice sedate footage :scooter: :mellow:

I would be very interested in your findings.

I have had a look locally for one of these babies and there is none on the shelves here:angry:

Looks like a great day here I would expect some footage tonight:rockon:

Cheers

Kendog
23rd December 2006, 06:34
I think I captured a UFO in the top left corner of the screen, right at the end of the clip. Weird.

I was not a believer till now.

But Mulder was right.

Transalper
23rd December 2006, 09:29
Looks pretty good for $200, i noticed it's only 15 frames per second instead of normal TV 25 fps, that might be where the wobble effect is coming from, but still looks good for internet at least (haven't seen it on real TV so can't comment there)

NOTE: For SD cards, I go here (http://www.flashcards.co.nz/catalog/index.php?cPath=24_46)... They have a Kingston 2GB 16x Secure Digital (SD) Card for only $65 NEW at the moment.
They do other types of memory card and some other related stuff too.
Cheers
TA.

Shadows
23rd December 2006, 10:54
Looks pretty good for $200, i noticed it's only 15 frames per second instead of normal TV 25 fps, that might be where the wobble effect is coming from, but still looks good for internet at least (haven't seen it on real TV so can't comment there)


Maybe the 15fps is a YouTube thing. It was recorded at 30fps, which is the camera's highest setting. The wobbly bollox looked pretty much the same on the telly, but overall the picture quality was a bit better, even on a 42" screen.

Man, if this thing works like this on my VibraGlide, I reckon it'll work on anything.

Transalper
23rd December 2006, 12:12
Um ok, i don't know how many frames per second Youtube uses, I just quoted the 15fps from first post by Gunner where he listed the specs, but you're right, i see the link provided by kendog says it's 30fps in the second generation version of the camera.
I don't know where the wobbly flag effect is arrising, i don't have it in any of my YouTube content.

Skunk
23rd December 2006, 14:33
I've just got one. Going to fit it to the bucket and will (hopefully) have some footage from the racing at Taupo. Still got to get a SD card for it.
Anyone tested a 4gig card yet?

Shadows
23rd December 2006, 16:14
I don't know where the wobbly flag effect is arrising, i don't have it in any of my YouTube content.

I do..... I could see the camera shaking like a leaf on the bars, and I know from hanging on to them that it can feel like you're trying to hold back a supercharged washing machine on spin cycle at certain revs.

Shadows
23rd December 2006, 16:16
I've just got one. Going to fit it to the bucket and will (hopefully) have some footage from the racing at Taupo. Still got to get a SD card for it.
Anyone tested a 4gig card yet?

I think they will only take a maximum card size of 2Gb.

TonyB
23rd December 2006, 18:36
Hope Santa brings me one of these! It would be an excellent tool for analysing your racing. Plus you could get a pretty accurate idea of lap times. I want one!

Idubbs
2nd January 2007, 17:09
Hey,Guys. On the back of this thread, I went out and bought one too!. Not easy to find mind you -not all Noel Lemings have them. Pics below... check out how I've mounted the cam. Great product from www.ramsolutions.co.nz. I can also use it to fix my radar detector on as well - just need to buy the mounting plate.:rockon:

Skunk
4th January 2007, 10:34
I took mine racing at Taupo but the vibration proved to be too much... It would turn off a soon as I reached half revs. I'll try a different mounting position.

vifferman
4th January 2007, 10:55
I got impatient waiting for the memory upgrade, and tried the camera out on the handlebar the other day. ....Weird.

I'll say! I just about pissed myself laughing - that's about the weirdest video I've seen in a long while. :laugh:

Not only were the visual effects amusing, but the sound effects - oh dear!:rofl:

Sorry... I've just about recovered now.
It must be the drugs... :confused:

Shadows
4th January 2007, 11:21
I'll say! I just about pissed myself laughing - that's about the weirdest video I've seen in a long while. :laugh:

Not only were the visual effects amusing, but the sound effects - oh dear!:rofl:

Sorry... I've just about recovered now.
It must be the drugs... :confused:

LOL yeah it was pretty bad. Need a better mounting situation methinks. And to turn off the microphone.

vagrant
28th January 2007, 00:26
I got one of these for xmas. So far I have only used it strapped to the helmet for mountain biking, but have just finished up the mockup for a mount to fit it above the mirror mount on the Blade.
They take great video if the light is right, and constant. It seems to take a few seconds to catch up when you go from from light to dark to light.
I will post again when I have tested the bike mount out.

Vagrant

Skunk
28th January 2007, 09:59
This was my second mount attempt (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=50836&d=1168754509). Too bouncy. I'll have a go at a third one. Link is 1.5mb and a Quicktime movie.

rustys
29th January 2007, 12:32
skunk, keep working on it , took mine to taupo track yesterday, had the same problem, turning its self off, did get some footage about half a lap. It actually takes a good picture and sound. Thought the sd card had come loose popped some tape on the back to hold it in more possitive, still did'nt make any differrence. It must be the noise or vibration, cause it works real well on my road bike, mounted solid on the tank. Going to go out hold next to the muffler with the bike running to see if it switches off, that will elliminate if its noise ? I think i will have to look for a better mounting point on the race bike. A bit more experimenting i think!

Skunk
29th January 2007, 12:51
I think it's just vibration (4 stroke single in an alloy frame) - with a solid mount to the frame it switched off real quick. Second attempt was rubber mounted on the tank with foam underneath. Stayed switched on but wobbled.
My latest attempt is rubber mount to the frame.
I also found that it didn't like being close to the high tension electrics...

skelstar
29th January 2007, 13:01
Must be much better attaching to yourself wouldn't it? ...reduce heaps of vibration.

Skunk
29th January 2007, 14:10
I look around at the scenery and who's passing me too much. Kinda ruins the effect. Apart from that I get double vision sometimes due to the vibration.

Maybe I could rubber mount myself?

skelstar
29th January 2007, 14:21
Trying to resist the temptation to get a piccy from images.google.com to suit your last comment ;)

Shadows
29th January 2007, 14:43
I look around at the scenery and who's passing me too much. Kinda ruins the effect.

Yeah, same here. Not wanting to look like Joe 90 also has a part to play in not sticking the camera to my helmet.

rustys
29th January 2007, 15:49
Just tried the camera out on my 1100 mounted on the side of my helmet,stays running fine,takes a good picture,can't hear the bikes engine or gear changes in this postion,mic picks up wind noise,and like anything on your helmet ie straps and shirt collar flapping in the breeze. But you don't realise that actually your head moves around quite a lot ie wind buffetting, bumps and general scanning of the corners you don't get a good view of the
effects, and its also hard to gauge where to aim it when its mounted on the helmet
The track yesterday was quite bumpy ( using the small circut ) Iam racing a zxr 400 and had it mounted on the brackets that hold the front top fairing and screen, so i guess this was'nt the best place ,I also had it mounted on the tail piece facing rearwards.The tank on the zxr is lower than the tripple tree so i will have to pack the camera up somehow.
I have come to the conclusion that it must be firmly mounted and no big bumps.
Wonder how ( Idubbs) is going with his mounting arm from RAMSOLUTIONS.

The_Dover
29th January 2007, 15:58
I picked one of these up from Noel Leemings yesterday for 169.99. score.but I haven't got an SD card yet cos I'm too tight to pay retail prices and I can get a 2gig for 40 bucks tomorrow.

I'm just about to put my first video up on that tube site if I can figure it out but it's only at the lowest res.

I have mounted the camera to the mirror stem on my gixxer and it seems to be ok, still get a bit of that wavy flag shit but for under 200 notes it's not too bad given it's a piece of piss to use and comes with all the mounting hardware you need.


I haven't had a chance to take it out today cos I've barley left the shitter since 1 am. God bless wireless.

<object width="425" height="350"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/hrAVj5puh0M"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/hrAVj5puh0M" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" width="600" height="350"></embed></object>

Finn
29th January 2007, 17:32
I have mounted the camera to the mirror stem on my gixxer.

Cool. You've just doubled the value of your gixxer.

The_Dover
29th January 2007, 18:28
here's a couple of pics of the mount.

Idubbs
30th January 2007, 22:51
Just tried the camera out on my 1100 mounted on the side of my helmet,stays running fine,takes a good picture,can't hear the bikes engine or gear changes in this postion,mic picks up wind noise,and like anything on your helmet ie straps and shirt collar flapping in the breeze. But you don't realise that actually your head moves around quite a lot ie wind buffetting, bumps and general scanning of the corners you don't get a good view of the
effects, and its also hard to gauge where to aim it when its mounted on the helmet
The track yesterday was quite bumpy ( using the small circut ) Iam racing a zxr 400 and had it mounted on the brackets that hold the front top fairing and screen, so i guess this was'nt the best place ,I also had it mounted on the tail piece facing rearwards.The tank on the zxr is lower than the tripple tree so i will have to pack the camera up somehow.
I have come to the conclusion that it must be firmly mounted and no big bumps.
Wonder how ( Idubbs) is going with his mounting arm from RAMSOLUTIONS.

I'm pretty happy with my setup - the vidcam's held pretty firm and I like to think the rubber isolation plays it's part. Footage I got is reasonable though I reckon it may be helpful to use a high speed SD card instead of the cheap and nasty one that I recently bought...might just get rid of some of the wavey lines. Must agree with Dover - not bad kit considering the price and ease of use. Hey, by the way .....another of our members here has used a Ram Solutions mount to fix his vidcam onto his tank using a suction cup attachment. Apparently gives the advantage of elevation over looking the instruments as well as the road.! Holds on well too....

skelstar
31st January 2007, 07:48
Hey Dover, is that vid quality about the same when you just run it on your PC (ie youTube hasn't degraded the quality)?

DMNTD
31st January 2007, 20:50
Well my Oregon vid cam just suffered a 200+ tumble 'n roll....and the little farker still works too!! :gob:

Hope to have it sorted for this saturday's trackday,should make for some interesting slow mo :scooter:

beyond
31st January 2007, 21:12
Well my Oregon vid cam just suffered a 200+ tumble 'n roll....and the little farker still works too!! :gob:

Hope to have it sorted for this saturday's trackday,show make for some interesting slow mo :scooter:



Hopefully it was still not attached to your bike during this tumble and roll???


:)

T.I.E
31st January 2007, 21:15
im surprised it didnt fall off before.
that cam sounds amazing.

DMNTD
31st January 2007, 21:18
Hopefully it was still not attached to your bike during this tumble and roll???
LOL....nah fortunately not!! Had it strapped to my left wrist so I could so close road action up 'n down the Kaimai's but to no avail....
Highly impressed that this wee cheap cam still works after such a wicked tumble

nodrog
31st January 2007, 21:22
LOL.... Had it strapped to my left wrist.....

are you sure you were on your bike?

T.I.E
31st January 2007, 21:33
are you sure you were on your bike?

which bike? maybe the vibration got in the way?

vagrant
31st January 2007, 21:46
Picked up the mount for my camera yesterday. The guys in our metal shop did an awesome job. It took a bit of stuffing round to get it angled right, but its getting there. Pics below. (dammit, got myself in the mirror)
At various rpms the vibe harmonic thru the mirror is pretty bad, but the camera doesn't seem to notice it much.
The audio side is absolute crap, makes the bike sound like its grinding itself to death. I will have to get a piece of microphone foam sock and cable tie it over the pickup, see if that cleans up the sound a bit.

Took it out for its test run on the mentors ride. The picture is great, and going to be handy for coaching. Roll on the Thursday ride. Now I just have to work out how to edit the tracks and Tube it.

One design fault with it is that the controls are small rubber buttons, and hard to get to with gloves on, other than that, I am happy with how its working so far.

beyond
1st February 2007, 16:46
Hello, my name is Paul and I am addicted to Oregon Cams :)

I reckon with all the KB'ers buying these things we should have organised a pretty good discount on them by now. I'm going to feel quite out of place on KB rides with every other bike sporting an Oregon Cam :(

It looks like it's going to be the accessory to have for 2007. Now, if I can invent a clamp that will give no vibration and minimise sound distortion, I won't need to win the lotto this weekend :)

Skunk
1st February 2007, 17:33
Where do I order your clamp?

barty5
1st February 2007, 17:54
i bought one couple months back hopless on the bars (off road) switch off had to go for the side of helmet as to much movement on the arm kept gettin great footage of head stock as it rolled around other wise works great only other hassle is guys i go ridin with aways fall off behind me so never get to take the piss out of them re livin it ova an ova

T.I.E
4th February 2007, 14:54
At various rpms the vibe harmonic thru the mirror is pretty bad, but the camera doesn't seem to notice it much.
The audio side is absolute crap, makes the bike sound like its grinding itself to death. I will have to get a piece of microphone foam sock and cable tie it over the pickup, see if that cleans up the sound a bit.


simple but effective good work on that one, also as well as foam try a wind sock, looks like sheepskin, foam picks up wind noise, the sock is better, also together they should be more effective.
where is the mic located on the front?
and with the wind being straight on, it will be hard to tone the noise down.

Buddy L
5th February 2007, 16:36
I just got one the other week, didn't even no that their was a cult following.
Have made up mounts out of alloy for mounting under the side mirror, will post up picks when i get i back from the weilders (Rookie) better do a good job.
Getting it ready for the KB track day in taupo

takitimu
6th February 2007, 16:35
i bought one couple months back hopless on the bars (off road) switch off had to go for the side of helmet as to much movement on the arm kept gettin great footage of head stock as it rolled around other wise works great only other hassle is guys i go ridin with aways fall off behind me so never get to take the piss out of them re livin it ova an ova

Hey Barty,

Are you using the rubber strap that comes with the camera to attach it to your helmet or something else, also how does it handle crashes ?.

Nigel

scott411
20th February 2007, 12:44
I tried to use one on my motard bike at pearoa, it worked fine on the dummy grid but would tuirn itself off as soon as i hit the track it would turn off and corupt the file, i treid new batterys, i thought the SD card might be popping out so i jammed somthing in their to make sure it sould not move,

i had it mounted on the handlebars, if i shake the unit it will turn off, any idea's i thought the batteries might be moving and disconting

rustys
20th February 2007, 14:10
scott411, had exactly the same problem with mine on the track, I am riding a screeming ZXR 400 mined you, put some tape over the SD card, srewed it up, tried again same problem. Its definatly a problem on a race bike, under racing conditions. Warm up laps, i have some footage but under high rev's seems to cut out. Have some good footage from my road bike, on the road,no problems.
Going to try it out on the YZF R6 on the track, at the track day March 9th, to see if thats any better.

Skunk
20th February 2007, 15:05
I had success by mounting the camera on polystyrene and tying it down with the rubber straps. It wobbled a bit too much but the video was good.
The various attempts I've made make me believe that it must be well insulated from high frequently vibration.

scott411
20th February 2007, 15:36
thanks guys, i am going to try mounting it on the front fender on foam, ill keep you informed, i was pissed off as it owuld have been awesome footage

jumma
26th February 2007, 15:17
woo hoo. Just joined the Oregon club - went thirds on one with my flatmates as no-one wanted to fork out $200 themselves.
Drew numbers out of a hat for the first usage which went to my flatmate on his CBR 1000. We just duct taped it to his tank with a spacer about 5-6cm high between the tank and camera. Worked a treat, sound is a little shitty but impressed otherwise.
Now i've just gotta figure out how to You tube this stuff

idleidolidyll
26th February 2007, 15:26
I've started using a more expensive video camera with a monitor i can see when riding.
It helps set up the shot and as a bonus, the cam has a zoom.

Oregon therefore up for sale, it came to me without any mounts or card but is otherwise fine.

Yours for $100

pm me if interested

no replies within a few days means it's going on trademe

saul
26th February 2007, 16:34
I've started using a more expensive video camera with a monitor i can see when riding.
It helps set up the shot and as a bonus, the cam has a zoom.

Oregon therefore up for sale, it came to me without any mounts or card but is otherwise fine.

Yours for $100

pm me if interested

no replies within a few days means it's going on trademe

Dibs :innocent:

saul
26th February 2007, 19:23
Sold:rockon: :sunny:

idleidolidyll
26th February 2007, 19:28
Sold:rockon: :sunny:

yep sold, no more pm's please, it's all Sauls

jumma
27th February 2007, 08:45
...as soon as i hit the track it would turn off and corupt the file, i treid new batterys, i thought the SD card might be popping out so i jammed somthing in their to make sure it sould not move,

i had it mounted on the handlebars, if i shake the unit it will turn off, any idea's i thought the batteries might be moving and disconting

Attatched camera to my bike yesterday and went for a short blast. When I pulled over at the end to turn off the damn thing it was already off! Got home and viewed footage and was only the first minute.

I had it mounted next to my headlight and can only assume it was the vibrations from revving the shit out of my bike that prompted it to shut down. Am gonna attempt to wrap it up in some foam or similar and see if that helps. Will keep you all posted.

marty
27th February 2007, 09:18
couple of guys use (or at least try to use) these for skydiving. they have nothing but bad things to say - too unreliable and switch off while hanging off the side of the plane - temp and vibration related we reckon. the best ones are digital tape machines on the side of the helmet. works fine @ 200km/h.

idleidolidyll
27th February 2007, 10:52
The Oregon was OK and for the price, bloody excellent.

Trouble was it did have a tendency to switch off if mounted badly. They don't like vibration and the worst place to mount them is on a handlebar IMO.

I reckon a mounting plate of some kind with a vibration damper would fix em.

That said, have fun Saul, I like my newer more expensive DV Cam with 12x zoom and a live viewing monitor. The monitor ensures I really am capturing the right action. As for wet weather: I'm over rain, I never set out in the stuff and if it rains when I'm out, I'll just stash my little camera away.

With a 2GB card I get over 3 hours of 640x480 30fps video and sound (.avi).

Kflasher
27th February 2007, 11:33
In my quest to find the perfect Bike Cam, I think I have found a pretty good one.

Cheers dude I have been in the hunt for a small one just like that right price too.

Kornholio
27th February 2007, 12:12
Dibs :innocent:

Lights, action ....camera :D

Actually me, spud and fish are planning a wee jaunt this weekend if ya want some footage to test it out................. :sunny:

saul
27th February 2007, 17:30
Lights, action ....camera :D

Actually me, spud and fish are planning a wee jaunt this weekend if ya want some footage to test it out................. :sunny:

I think that that is exactly what is needed:yes: :rockon:

Stalker:innocent:

saul
27th February 2007, 17:36
The Oregon was OK and for the price, bloody excellent.

Trouble was it did have a tendency to switch off if mounted badly. They don't like vibration and the worst place to mount them is on a handlebar IMO.

I reckon a mounting plate of some kind with a vibration damper would fix em.

That said, have fun Saul, I like my newer more expensive DV Cam with 12x zoom and a live viewing monitor. The monitor ensures I really am capturing the right action. As for wet weather: I'm over rain, I never set out in the stuff and if it rains when I'm out, I'll just stash my little camera away.

With a 2GB card I get over 3 hours of 640x480 30fps video and sound (.avi).

Cheers mate I have used a vid cam with a nice mount but I always had the feeling that it was to bulky, plus I had to swap with my radar detector.

I like the size of the O cam and I will sort the mounting (ahem) no trouble:yes:

Have seen dmntd's cam after it came of at a decent rate of knots and it still looked in good condtion.

Should be here tomorrow:love:

Kornholio
27th February 2007, 17:41
I think that that is exactly what is needed:yes: :rockon:

Stalker:innocent:

JOY!!! :sunny:

idleidolidyll
27th February 2007, 17:53
I think that that is exactly what is needed:yes: :rockon:

Stalker:innocent:

Get a 1GB card for it Saul. I suggest a fast write card not a cheapie but hey, i'm no videographer, just a humble photographer

a 1GB card should give you about an hour

Gunner
27th February 2007, 19:46
Update....

Went for a blast up piecock hill on sunday and taped the camera to my seat cowl facing backwards.
Unscrewed the round clamp thing that the mounts clip onto, so I had a stable base. Stuck a small piece of non-slip mat under it just to absorb some of the vibration/movement.

The footage turned out really well, didnt vibrate or move at all and didnt turn itself off even after a few big bumps and a few wheelies. The sound however is still not that good. You can hear the bike, but at certain revs it still gets that hum/buzz noise that resonates thru it.


Solution...
Tonight I unscrewed the small piece of hard plastic underneath the camera at the front, That is where the mic pick-up is, Under this plastic is a rubber diaphragm of some sort and under that is 4 holes that lead into the mic.

The diaphragm is for the water proofing, but I think that it also plays a big part in the audio quality. As it lets sound vibes thru it first then into the mic(works like a filter).
So far I have done some "voice" tests on it without the diaphragm and plastic, and It picked up the sound really good, It has made it more sensitive and clearer.

Will try to go for a ride tomorrow night with it taped in the same place, and see if it has made a difference.


PS - To get the triangle screws undone I used a precision screwdriver set (2mm flat blade).



Troy

saul
27th February 2007, 20:41
Get a 1GB card for it Saul. I suggest a fast write card not a cheapie but hey, i'm no videographer, just a humble photographer

a 1GB card should give you about an hour

Yep I have one lying around somewhere:yes: Man storage is soooooooooo cheap now days lol:yes:

Buddy L
28th February 2007, 18:09
this is my set up for the camera off the fairing and mounted on alloy with a foam packer under it, made it up at work. and got a mate to weild it up. Going to try it out tomorow night.

Kflasher
1st March 2007, 11:40
Hey guys I have just bought my camera the “Oregon Scientific”. I have only used this twice now and have found it brilliant (both motorway rides). I am unable to upload from work so have to post it some other way. I have strapped it to my steering damper via a block of polystyrene at the moment until I can sort something more permanent. This is great piece of equipment, once at work I have watch my trip I have almost got the angle perfect just a little vibration to sort out. Hope to share all this soon.

saul
1st March 2007, 17:28
Hey guys I have just bought my camera the “Oregon Scientific”. I have only used this twice now and have found it brilliant (both motorway rides). I am unable to upload from work so have to post it some other way. I have strapped it to my steering damper via a block of polystyrene at the moment until I can sort something more permanent. This is great piece of equipment, once at work I have watch my trip I have almost got the angle perfect just a little vibration to sort out. Hope to share all this soon.


Very cool. Look forward to that.

Here is my first attempt at getting her ahem mounted (heheh):love: :rockon:

Hopefully with the sponge in between the cam and the escort it should create a nice vibration breaker.

Find out tomorrow:yes:

vagrant
1st March 2007, 18:36
[QUOTE=Gunner;955029]Update....
Solution...
Tonight I unscrewed the small piece of hard plastic underneath the camera at the front, That is where the mic pick-up is, Under this plastic is a rubber diaphragm of some sort and under that is 4 holes that lead into the mic.

The diaphragm is for the water proofing, but I think that it also plays a big part in the audio quality. As it lets sound vibes thru it first then into the mic(works like a filter).
So far I have done some "voice" tests on it without the diaphragm and plastic, and It picked up the sound really good, It has made it more sensitive and clearer.

Will try to go for a ride tomorrow night with it taped in the same place, and see if it has made a difference.


How did that work out?

Gunner
1st March 2007, 20:57
Sound is a lot better now, there doesnt seem to be that irritating noise that was there before and you can hear the bike more, but I am getting a bit of wind noise that I didnt get before. Will try it without the plastic bit at the bottom and see if that makes it any clearer, then will try to put a very small bit of foam or something similar where the diaphragm used to be to reduce the wind noise.


Troy

Kflasher
2nd March 2007, 07:01
Hey guys tested the camera again… as you do, I defiantly have to sort out a proper mount to take out the vibration. Also the ride I went on (ATNR) started out west directly into the sun needles to say the captured image was crap, but once sun was behind me it defiantly got better I tried a lower setting of 15fps and it is still good for computer and TV viewing. I captured four films all varying in length and file size (naturally). As soon as I get better filming I will find a way to post them….but once again fark what a great piece of equipment.:yes:

Buddy L
2nd March 2007, 11:36
Hey guys tested the camera again… as you do, I defiantly have to sort out a proper mount to take out the vibration. Also the ride I went on (ATNR) started out west directly into the sun needles to say the captured image was crap, but once sun was behind me it defiantly got better I tried a lower setting of 15fps and it is still good for computer and TV viewing. I captured four films all varying in length and file size (naturally). As soon as I get better filming I will find a way to post them….but once again fark what a great piece of equipment.:yes:

I was next to you at the start of the ride last night, mine still turned itself off just going on the motorway to get to the ride. Tryed it again half way but the same thing happened again.
It got me thinking maybe i could be the "SD" card that i got, i go two 2gb cards for just under 60 bucks new ( real cheapys), and i don't think they like the good vibes that the bike is giving off. maybe the more $$$ spent on a card would have been a good thing.

Fub@r
2nd March 2007, 22:19
So whats the overall verdict on these cameras?

NordieBoy
3rd March 2007, 08:48
Too early for an "overall" yet :D

scracha
4th March 2007, 11:02
Spare set of rechargable batteries and a spare 2GB (50 bucks) SD card and you've got reasonable recording. Never mind for recording purty bike vids, I was thinking of when some dickhead pulls out in front of you etc.

Can it take external lenses or audio input? How heavy is it from a bike mounted POV

EDIT. Certain types of 2GB SD cards with a kiwibiker discount could be sold for a mere 40 bucks.

Is it this one here? Notice they've got a helmet strap! Not often Noel Leeming does flippin bargains!
http://www.natives.co.uk/do/ecco.py/view_item?listid=9&listcatid=39&listitemid=2842

Idubbs
4th March 2007, 11:52
I can show you another couple of mounting options in the photos below.......but as a side issue, check the Oregon sliding clip and shoe fitting for free-play. This may well contribute to the vibration problems as much of the blame to date has been placed on the mounting system. I have also chosen to use the fastest SD memory card that I can, because I'm wondering about the inbuilt buffering system with the Oregon. Then again, you can be quite philosophical and say "what the fkk do you expect out of a $200 hobby camera!!....!"

As for the mounts - the suction cup option is excellent for sprots bikes, provide you don't have squillions of honda stickers planted ovet the deck of the tank. Sticks like shit on a brick wall, even on gentle curved surfaces, and the camera peers over the instruments and screen. I had this mounted on my VFR but because of the higher fairing, the camera had to peer through the
screen. Worked great until you get sun-flares, and in my case (over the Takaka Hills), a dust cloud that turned out to be a swarm of bugs (you know, only the size that the S.I can produce!).

For me, my only real option is the mirror stem mount - almost as good!:Punk:

Incase you are interested in these, you may want to phone Ram Solutions on ph 0800-246-426

MacD
4th March 2007, 18:32
I was looking at the suction cup mount on the RAM website for my Oregon camera. Did it solve the "switch-off" problem? I've played around with a range of foam mounts on the bars but there really is too much vibration there with the Bandit so I'm looking at a tank mount solution. There are the cheaper petrol filler bolt-on arrangements, but I like the thought of being able to remove the suction cup system easily.

paturoa
4th March 2007, 18:51
if you need memory go here http://www.pricespy.co.nz/

at the moment there are 178 places selling 2G, SD Ram the cheapest is 27 including gestapo tax

Fub@r
5th March 2007, 18:34
Anyone tried a mount like these for a camera?

Also found a fold up number plate bracket as well for when your hooning making your videos :)

Kendog
5th March 2007, 19:31
Anyone tried a mount like these for a camera?

Also found a fold up number plate bracket as well for when your hooning making your videos :)

That tank mount looks like a great idea.

Where did you find that?

Fub@r
5th March 2007, 19:57
Got the initial pictures from Korider.com.

Have found the guy selling them on Ebay, has an adjustable one as well

http://stores.ebay.com/Cycle-Machine-Shop

saul
5th March 2007, 19:57
Well my little baby keeps coming up with error after putting the bike (gently) down from bird watching. :scooter: :gob: :yes:

I thought I was going to be happy with my set up but will have to do a little more thinking around the vibration issue. Bugger:yes:

Fub@r
5th March 2007, 20:01
Got given one of these yesterday.........once I figure how to mount it I will post the video results and see how it compares with an Oregon Scientific

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Electronics-photography/Video-cameras/Video-cameras/auction-90520012.htm

Fub@r
5th March 2007, 20:03
Well my little baby keeps coming up with error after putting the bike (gently) down from bird watching. :scooter: :gob: :yes:

I thought I was going to be happy with my set up but will have to do a little more thinking around the vibration issue. Bugger:yes:

Have read on other sites a possible solution to this.........seems the SD cards are not very secure in these cameras and vibrate loose and give the error message. Suggested fix was using a piece of soft foam and tape to hold the SD card securely in place. Haven't seen one of these cameras to know exactly what you do but it might be something to look in to.

saul
5th March 2007, 20:09
Have read on other sites a possible solution to this.........seems the SD cards are not very secure in these cameras and vibrate loose and give the error message. Suggested fix was using a piece of soft foam and tape to hold the SD card securely in place. Haven't seen one of these cameras to know exactly what you do but it might be something to look in to.

Yep I think that could help as when the error message comes up the card does not save the footage. This indicates (to me :yes: ) that the card is losing contact with it's connection = error:yes:

Fub@r
5th March 2007, 20:14
Yep I think that could help as when the error message comes up the card does not save the footage. This indicates (to me :yes: ) that the card is losing contact with it's connection = error:yes:

If you do a google search for oregon scientific there are quite a few sites where people are using these cameras and different mounting arrangments and examples of the results.

Seen some good snowboarding ones but all the ones where they were used on a motorbike have the wave effect in the video. Only decent video I have found using these cameras was when it was rear mounted on the pillion seat

Buddy L
5th March 2007, 20:34
Yep I think that could help as when the error message comes up the card does not save the footage. This indicates (to me :yes: ) that the card is losing contact with it's connection = error:yes:

The same problem that i have, not much room for a bit of foam but will give it a go. Haven't been able to record a thing yet keeps cacking out.

Kendog
5th March 2007, 21:18
Got given one of these yesterday.........once I figure how to mount it I will post the video results and see how it compares with an Oregon Scientific

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Electronics-photography/Video-cameras/Video-cameras/auction-90520012.htm

Will be good to see that as well. Had thought this type of 'cheap' camera would be another option to look at.

Gunner
5th March 2007, 21:37
Got given one of these yesterday.........once I figure how to mount it I will post the video results and see how it compares with an Oregon Scientific

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Electronics-photography/Video-cameras/Video-cameras/auction-90520012.htm

Note the video clip resolution is only 320x240 on that camera. Oregon has 640x480.

Ram Solutions
5th March 2007, 22:07
Got given one of these yesterday.........once I figure how to mount it I will post the video results and see how it compares with an Oregon Scientific

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Electronics-photography/Video-cameras/Video-cameras/auction-90520012.htm


Check this out..........
http://www.ramsolutions.co.nz/webapps/site/62807/64745/shopping/custom/shopping-ram.html?find_groupid=6605

Fub@r
5th March 2007, 22:20
Going to have a go at making a tank bracket like above

Will be interested to see if the $50 camera has the same issues as the Oregon one with vibration

Also heres a comparison of a number of SD Card manufacturers............there are some big differences in read and write speed between them all

http://www.digit-life.com/articles2/flashcard-test/flashcard-test-p2.html?80445

Shadows
5th March 2007, 22:53
Got given one of these yesterday.........once I figure how to mount it I will post the video results and see how it compares with an Oregon Scientific

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Electronics-photography/Video-cameras/Video-cameras/auction-90520012.htm

I think disco dan got the same one. Not too bad, but a bit watery. Here's the thread... http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=40421

NordieBoy
6th March 2007, 07:44
Well my little baby keeps coming up with error after putting the bike (gently) down from bird watching. :scooter: :gob: :yes:

I thought I was going to be happy with my set up but will have to do a little more thinking around the vibration issue. Bugger:yes:

I'd be tempted to put vasaline all over the batteries (slows down vibration and possible arcing at the contacts) and also on the SD-card (anti-vibration).
Won't cause any damage and may solve the problem.

saul
6th March 2007, 12:11
I'd be tempted to put vasaline all over the batteries (slows down vibration and possible arcing at the contacts) and also on the SD-card (anti-vibration).
Won't cause any damage and may solve the problem.

Sounds like an idea errr-SOMEBODY ELSE DO THIS FIRST- lol :yes:

Thanks NB. All jokes aside, I will give it ago tonight (if the foam trick doesn't work):yes:

NordieBoy
7th March 2007, 05:55
Same problem with my GPS's but the vasaline fixed them nicely.

Skunk
7th March 2007, 14:12
Same problem with my GPS's but the vasaline ficed them nicely.
Sounds painful...

I might try that as I'm having no luck so far.

saul
11th March 2007, 14:15
Same problem with my GPS's but the vasaline fixed them nicely.


Well have just done over thirty minutes with the cam.:rockon:

I combined a bit of sponge and a small mod to my mount and looks like all systems are go:Punk:

Have given the front end a real work out as well and no errors.:yes:

It's gonna be a fun thing for sure.

Sound is still terrible even with everything taken of the mic.

Definatly a sound over event if I bother to try and be clever.:yes:

MacD
11th March 2007, 16:13
I'm still having variable results with my Oregan camera. Foam under the card seemed to help, although I've just changed that to a layer of insulation tape stuck to the underside of the card itself. Also the camera may be sensitive to the lower voltage of rechargeable batteries? I seem to have fewer problem after switching to alkaline batteries, or they could just be making better contact?

By the way, you can often recover "missing" videos if the camera errors during recording by running a file recovery tool on the card while it's plugged in via USB. The standard Tools-Error Checking utility in XP will recover the files. Just rename them as .avi and use something like Classic Media Player to play them or fix the avi file with a suitable utility.

RedKLR650
11th March 2007, 21:47
In my quest to find the perfect Bike Cam, I think I have found a pretty good one. Its Called "Oregon Scientific" and costs $200. Available from Noel Leemings .

Well, as I didn't make the Dusty Butt 1000 yesterday, I did manage a bit of time away from the office this afternoon and took my new Oregon Scientific ACtion Cam for a spin. I managed just over 2 hours of footage on 3 cards with no dramas or switching off problems that some of you have experienced.

Those of you that have had card troubles, do you realise that you need to push your card in past level with the opening ( use your fingernail ) and the card will click and lock onto place. As for batteries, I was using 2x 2300mAh AA batteries, and good quality Sandisk 2Mb cards, but the big problem a lot of you seem to have is with mounting, so I used that rubber strap and fixed it to my leg around my boot just above the ankle. That way I could twist my foot to get views to the left and right etc, as well as being able to tilt it up and down.

I had a mate along for the ride on his Africa Twin, and we took turns at leading so sometimes the camera was facing forwards and sometimes backwards, seemed to work OK in thick dust on the shingle too :Punk:

My name is Stu and I'm now an action Cam addict - Bugger, now I'll have to get yet ANOTHER bigger hard drive

Cheers, Stu :scooter:

Kendog
12th March 2007, 05:33
but the big problem a lot of you seem to have is with mounting, so I used that rubber strap and fixed it to my leg around my boot just above the ankle. That way I could twist my foot to get views to the left and right etc, as well as being able to tilt it up and down.

I had a mate along for the ride on his Africa Twin, and we took turns at leading so sometimes the camera was facing forwards and sometimes backwards, seemed to work OK in thick dust on the shingle too :Punk:

That sounds unique and cool. Can you post some video examples?

Shadows
12th March 2007, 08:30
That sounds unique and cool. Can you post some video examples?

Yeah, bung it on Youtube if you can

RedKLR650
12th March 2007, 09:32
That sounds unique and cool. Can you post some video examples?
I'm a stills photographer by profession, and this is my first foray into video, and as the smallest video files I shot are around 500Gb, they're a wee bit on the big side to upload. Does anyone have any ideas or software advice for editing the files so I can cut them into smaller sequences and post some examples. I've got a great bit of footage the other evening when a large Wallaby jumped out of some bush and bounded up the track 20 metres in front of the KLR until escaping up a bank into the trees.....

Help needed.... Nordieboy ?? Any ideas ???

NordieBoy
12th March 2007, 09:52
500Gb? :shit:

Windows or Mac?

RedKLR650
12th March 2007, 11:00
500Gb? :shit:

Windows or Mac?

Doh !!

Oops, should have read 500-1000Mb files

PC based system

Cheers, Stu

NordieBoy
12th March 2007, 21:07
Windows PC based or Linux PC based?

oldguy
12th March 2007, 21:19
same problem as RedKLR650, how do I cut or should I say edit them in to smaller size files so I can upload on to yourtube.

I,m running XP home, what software would I need to edit.

erik
12th March 2007, 22:07
If you've got windows xp, then you should probably try Windows Movie Maker (http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/downloads/updates/moviemaker2.mspx)

(looks like there's more info on how to use it here (http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/using/moviemaker/default.mspx))

I think it comes with some versions of XP or you can download it there.

I've only got windows 2000 so I use virtualdub (http://www.virtualdub.org/) for basic video editing and compression.

RedKLR650
12th March 2007, 22:10
Windows PC based or Linux PC based?

Win Dooze with XP SE2

Cheers, Stu:scooter:

MacD
18th March 2007, 08:31
Success! I managed to record around an hour of video yesterday with minimal video "wobble" and no switch-off problems. The layer of standard insulation tape on the bottom of the SD card seems to have solved the contact problems with the card. I wonder if different manufacturers cards have slightly different dimensions? The card was always "clicked" into place, but seemed to lose contact over bumps as you could watch the recovered video and see the road feature that caused the jolt coming just before it switched off.

Secondly I moved the camera off the handle bars down to beside the engine on the crash bars, so the camera is solidly mounted to the frame effectively. I used the bar mount and some foam, but the foam is fairly compressed and just takes up the difference in dimensions between the bar and the mount.

I've used MS Moviemaker on XP to edit/compress the files so far, but my next plan is to try some Xvid encoding.

NordieBoy
18th March 2007, 08:37
So...
Anyone sick of their one yet and willing to sell?

:D

Waylander
23rd March 2007, 19:35
Anyone tried putting it inside thier helmet looking through the visor?

Been watching the vids from this guy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VTeIJ0yuB-I&NR

Seems to work fairly well but there's a vid later on labled I dropped the camera or something like that so you may want to tape it in or something instead of just setting it in there.

Shadows
23rd March 2007, 19:59
Anyone tried putting it inside thier helmet looking through the visor?

Been watching the vids from this guy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VTeIJ0yuB-I&NR



Damn. He must have a really queer shaped head to get the camera inside like that. Weird.

Waylander
23rd March 2007, 21:34
Damn. He must have a really queer shaped head to get the camera inside like that. Weird.
Watched a few other vids.
He's not using one of these cameras but more a flat one like still camera.

saul
24th March 2007, 20:36
Todays outing:yes:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mbLZdhxIB2Q

Thursday night+++

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yQhW4Mx6Hp8

Hope they meet with your approval I'm a newbie

I am having lots of fun with it:rockon:

Dodger
13th April 2007, 10:43
Has anyone tried a 4GB card in these yet?

RedKLR650
13th April 2007, 12:52
Has anyone tried a 4GB card in these yet?

Sorry Dodger, 2Gb max I'm afraid. :gob: That will get you just over 60 min, although if you try to record all that in one go, it will start a new chapter after 45 min therefore making 2x parts to your 1 hour video. :shit: The SD cards over 2Gb are a new standard which is not compatible :angry:

Cheers, Stu

Dodger
13th April 2007, 13:09
Thanks for that,
Mate of mine has one of these beasties and was asking about SD cards.

RedKLR650
10th May 2007, 19:45
Yeah, bung it on Youtube if you can

I finally signed up for a youtube account, check out the video I made with the camera strapped to my right leg ( to avoid the vibration issue ) facing forward while going for a gentle ride through a local forest ( on wet greasy grass....

Hope this link works..... :gob:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JssaeTZniI4

Bloody Wallabys..... :scooter:

NordieBoy
10th May 2007, 20:00
Wow.
Good footage ...ummm... leggage?

Jantar
10th May 2007, 20:17
I ordered one from Noel Leeming, but was told that they had none available, and wouldn't be getting any more in. Ebay came to the rescue, and I got an Oregon Scientific ATC1000 (the smaller brother of the one Noel leeming were selling) for US$83. After including postage to get it here the all up cost was US$100.67 or NZ$145.

The main difference is that it shoots at 15fps instead of 30fps at the highest resolution, but faster if you chose a lower resolution. This isn't a big issue as the standard for 16mm movies used to be 16fps. I tried it on a short ride up Letts Gully Road, and it lasted 150 seconds for 32MB. I reckon I should get 40 minutes or so from a 512MB card I have. That's more than enough for most purposes.

RedKLR650
10th May 2007, 23:40
Wow.
Good footage ...ummm... leggage?

Just to show the others that our adventure bikes are as nimble as the road guys on the asphalt :-) Keep an eye out for the sparks and noise at around the 39 / 40 second mark..... :scooter:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZwHNaAgiH0

Must cut the stand and reweld it at a higher angle..... :shutup:

Cheers, Stu

Shadows
11th May 2007, 00:48
Just to show the others that our adventure bikes are as nimble as the road guys on the asphalt :-) Keep an eye out for the sparks and noise at around the 39 / 40 second mark..... :scooter:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZwHNaAgiH0

Must cut the stand and reweld it at a higher angle..... :shutup:

Cheers, Stu

Damn, that made you step your line out a bit :whistle:

That vid came off really well, I must try that. I had a go at facing it forwards but it didn't turn out well enough to waste space here.

NordieBoy
11th May 2007, 08:19
The scary one for me was the first time wearing MX boots on the road and going around a nice tight corner and scraping the metal toe protecter.

Like the stand, it's a real brown pants moment if you're not expecting it :D

RedKLR650
11th May 2007, 09:16
Damn, that made you step your line out a bit :whistle:
That vid came off really well, I must try that. I had a go at facing it forwards but it didn't turn out well enough to waste space here.

I had the wee actioncan strapped to my leg to stop the vibration and also depending on if you had your toe, midfoot, or heel on the peg, you could sort of tilt the viewing angle up and down a wee bit.......

I went out one time and got a whole lot of road, and next time lots of sky, so it takes a bit of playing around. :shutup: I'm toying with the idea of glueing a very small glass :nono: ( called that but made of plastic ) off a spirit level on the top. You can get small ones for the hot shoes of cameras for panoramas etc, so that may be a help:yes:

I'll post some more wee snippets soon:gob:

Stu:scooter:

saul
18th June 2007, 19:51
A few shots that show my cam mounted.:yes:

Hardly any vibration noticed in the viewing.:love: :sunny:

BarBender
18th June 2007, 20:27
A few shots that show my cam mounted.:yes:

Hardly any vibration noticed in the viewing.:love: :sunny:

Nice bro,

Thats what I need - plastic clip fasteners! (or whatever they're called)

boomer
18th June 2007, 21:49
thanks to Saul i scored a camera from Duck on here; after having no joy in the shops :~}

pretty happy for what it is ! links to follow :D

boomer
18th June 2007, 23:31
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ehZZQN6a5tA

saul
19th June 2007, 06:41
Nice one Boomer "don't follow me" lol that is great.

Very nice angle and good view.:yes:

Looking fwd to some good stuff and my cd:yes:

Kflasher
19th June 2007, 06:48
looks cool dude, I have same camera, I have an issue with the vibrations I have made a small ali bracket from the top clamp. How have you cured the vibrations??? any special mounting?

Cheers

boomer
19th June 2007, 23:05
looks cool dude, I have same camera, I have an issue with the vibrations I have made a small ali bracket from the top clamp. How have you cured the vibrations??? any special mounting?

Cheers

saul is da man.. fill battery housing with speshal material ( vaseline or petroleum jelly.. or similar ) shove cardboard or rubber behind teh memory card to keep good contact and put cloth around the mount point before mounting the camera vice.

Done ;)

Kflasher
20th June 2007, 06:45
saul is da man.. fill battery housing with speshal material ( vaseline or petroleum jelly.. or similar ) shove cardboard or rubber behind teh memory card to keep good contact and put cloth around the mount point before mounting the camera vice.

Done ;)

As simple as that aye...DOH!

BarBender
20th June 2007, 14:05
saul is da man.. fill battery housing with speshal material ( vaseline or petroleum jelly.. or similar ) shove cardboard or rubber behind teh memory card to keep good contact and put cloth around the mount point before mounting the camera vice.

Done ;)

I use re-chargeables so just put sellotape around the cells so the batteries dont move side to side.
...Again - another pearl of wisdom from Saul.

saul
20th June 2007, 18:17
If you look early on about this topic a guy called Nordie? (from Nelson) started the pearls of wisdom.:yes:

Cheers guys:love:

BarBender
20th June 2007, 18:19
If you look early on in this thread a guy called Nordie? started the pearls of wisdom.:yes:

Cheers guys:love:

CHEERS NORDIE!!!

NordieBoy
20th June 2007, 20:37
All this attention!
:o



Anyone sick of their one yet?
Anyone?

boomer
20th June 2007, 23:01
Nice work Nordie! and i'll be keeping mine for a while longer.. i reckon the mrs will love havin me go deep sea diving with that attached to ma heeed

oh and Saul.. ya cd is the post.. sent yesterday buddy !

Kornholio
20th June 2007, 23:29
Nice work Nordie! and i'll be keeping mine for a while longer.. i reckon the mrs will love havin me go deep sea diving with that attached to ma heeed

oh and Saul.. ya cd is the post.. sent yesterday buddy !

Wheres my CD you bastard :p

boomer
21st June 2007, 15:04
Wheres my CD you bastard :p

i didn't think you liked girls :dodge:

saul
21st June 2007, 18:59
i didn't think you liked girls :dodge:

lol :dodge: :yes:

yep got it thanks mate.:yes:

I think I will continue with windows movie maker as vista doesn't like it very much:dodge:

boomer
21st June 2007, 19:08
premiere needs a lot of memory on its own so if your running vista as well then you'll probably need about 3 gig of memory ;) oh well.. theres some other uselfull shit on there too bro!

sorry its no use

boomer
21st June 2007, 22:56
part II is up on you tube .. specially for Dan

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meh at my attempt at compression.. i'll try again later

saul
22nd June 2007, 06:20
premiere needs a lot of memory on its own so if your running vista as well then you'll probably need about 3 gig of memory ;) oh well.. theres some other uselfull shit on there too bro!

sorry its no use


I got heaps of ram mate:yes:

Its not that it's no use (and I thank you very much for it) its just that it keeps turning the desktop to vista basic.

I don't think that I can get out this weekend I havent found rear tyre yet:angry:

Shadows
22nd July 2007, 03:02
So far I haven't managed to get a decent video using this camera.

It just couldn't handle the vibrations - it turned itself off and never worked again after this ride...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0V8K7-JD9iw

Noel Leeming has organised a replacement, next time I'll try a Ram mount and see if it lasts any longer.

NordieBoy
22nd July 2007, 07:52
So far I haven't managed to get a decent video using this camera.

It just couldn't handle the vibrations - it turned itself off and never worked again after this ride...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0V8K7-JD9iw

Noel Leeming has organised a replacement, next time I'll try a Ram mount and see if it lasts any longer.

I'd sell it if I were you :innocent:

saul
22nd July 2007, 09:35
So far I haven't managed to get a decent video using this camera.

It just couldn't handle the vibrations - it turned itself off and never worked again after this ride...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0V8K7-JD9iw

Noel Leeming has organised a replacement, next time I'll try a Ram mount and see if it lasts any longer.

If you want to sell it for a crazy low price I would be interested:innocent:

Shadows
22nd July 2007, 11:46
I'd sell it if I were you :innocent:

Nah, I'd prefer to hold on to my bike for a while yet...


If you want to sell it for a crazy low price I would be interested:innocent:

I have some other applications for the camera so if I can't use it on the bike all is not lost - hopefully the Ram mount will make a difference though.

NordieBoy
6th August 2007, 18:21
Hmmm, looks like I can get one for $247...
Should I or shouldn't I?

saul
6th August 2007, 18:56
Hmmm, looks like I can get one for $247...
Should I or shouldn't I?

If you said $147 then maybe:yes:

If you said $100 then yes:love:

If you said $247 then no thats wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy to much:gob:

Shadows
6th August 2007, 20:41
Hmmm, looks like I can get one for $247...
Should I or shouldn't I?

I wouldn't, they are only $199 new. Noel Leeming should be able to order one for you.

NordieBoy
6th August 2007, 20:55
Noel Leeming havn't sold them for a while now.

Cajun
6th August 2007, 21:45
Noel Leeming havn't sold them for a while now.


spotted them on ebay for $100+shipping with a 2gig card, and a few other extras.

Shadows
6th August 2007, 21:46
Noel Leeming havn't sold them for a while now.

Have you asked if they can order one for you?

saul
6th August 2007, 21:51
Noel Leeming havn't sold them for a while now.


Theres heaps of them up here @ NL:yes: or there was last week:yes:

RedKLR650
8th August 2007, 09:47
So far I haven't managed to get a decent video using this camera.
It just couldn't handle the vibrations - it turned itself off and never worked again after this ride...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0V8K7-JD9iw
Noel Leeming has organised a replacement, next time I'll try a Ram mount and see if it lasts any longer.

Bear in mind they were never designed for bikes / vibration situations, they were designed for skateboarders, skiers, cavers, etc, and as with any $200 toy, what do you expect ?? Try it with a $2000 camera and the only reason the quality will be better is that it is heavier and will vibrate less. Try wrapping some lead sheet around it to dampen the vibration, or mount in fibreglass batts inside some plastic downpipe, both options will solve your problem in different ways. Or do what I do, just strap to your leg or arm - problem solved..... If you go back to post # 144 in this thread you will be able to see the quality I can get from it. Hope that helps, Stu :bye:

NordieBoy
9th August 2007, 19:15
Oh well...
Now to work out how to mount it to the helmet...
:rolleyes:

Transalper
9th August 2007, 22:49
I'm not using an Oregon camera but i stick my helmet camera to helmet now days with 3m Dual Lock velcro (http://www.andybaird.com/travels/gertie/superlock.htm). Just been a bit expensive and hard to source so far. Guess I'm not looking in the right places.

k14
9th August 2007, 23:03
I'm not using an Oregon camera but i stick my helmet camera to helmet now days with 3m Dual Lock velcro (http://www.andybaird.com/travels/gertie/superlock.htm). Just been a bit expensive and hard to source so far. Guess I'm not looking in the right places.
That stuff is incredible, the most sticky velcro I've ever come across. Can be very difficult to tear it apart once you stick the two sides together!!!

boomer
9th August 2007, 23:21
If you said $147 then maybe:yes:

If you said $100 then yes:love:

If you said $247 then no thats wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy to much:gob:

what about $80 :love:

NordieBoy
10th August 2007, 00:00
what about $80 :love:

Depends if you're selling or buying...

Cr1MiNaL
10th August 2007, 00:58
Looking for one of these Oregon cams if anyone selling flick me a pm. Cheers.

NordieBoy
10th August 2007, 20:04
Handlebar mount test on the DR.

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NordieBoy
11th August 2007, 09:32
Didn't realise it had it's own website...

http://www.atc2k.com

NordieBoy
12th August 2007, 12:32
I havn't had any turning off or card issues (yet).
All I did was smear the sides and ends of the batteries and both sides of the sd-card (inc contacts) in vasaline.

Just need to work out how to mount it to a helmet easily instead of the bars.
It's making me seasick editing the vids :sick:

boomer
12th August 2007, 12:37
Handlebar mount test on the DR.

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<embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/EltxkrWxvd4" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" height="230" width="280"></object>


i could have rode my sprotsbike faster than that ... :zzzz:

NordieBoy
12th August 2007, 13:03
i could have rode my sprotsbike faster than that ... :zzzz:

I could have ridden your sprotsbike faster too :D

The track is well used by 4wd's and I don't want to meet any up close and personal.

Buddy L
18th August 2007, 21:13
You need at least grade 5 ear muffs on, when riding you DR tha,t thing is noisey

Cr1MiNaL
18th August 2007, 22:08
need bike cam... buy or loan? pm me plzzzzz o fellow bikers..... need to record lapping boomer.... !! lol

boomer
18th August 2007, 22:25
need bike cam... buy or loan? pm me plzzzzz o fellow bikers..... need to record lapping boomer.... !! lol

if you lap me i'll give you my bike bro.

Cr1MiNaL
18th August 2007, 22:33
when you lap me i'll give you my bike bro.

Well I've never had this bike on the track b4.. and no this is not an excuse!... I'm sure if u give me till the end of summer Ill pass u... (not lap btw).... but ur on homeboy, I'll take ur bike off u .... and sell it for parts coz i'd never be caught riding one of those in public! ROFL

NordieBoy
9th September 2007, 11:41
Anyone mounted the ATC2K on a helmet successfully using the straps that came with it?

Shadows
9th September 2007, 18:53
Anyone mounted the ATC2K on a helmet successfully using the straps that came with it?

I used them around my left leg once, it seemed to work okay, left hand cornering looked quite cool with the camera so low to the ground.

NordieBoy
9th September 2007, 21:29
I used them around my left leg once, it seemed to work okay, left hand cornering looked quite cool with the camera so low to the ground.

Nope, not pratical for me.
Sitting/standing/balls of feet on pegs/instep on pegs/gorse/branches.

Helmet is best, but.......

Shadows
9th September 2007, 21:54
Helmet is best, but.......

.....you don't want to look like Joe 90?

NordieBoy
9th September 2007, 22:14
.....you don't want to look like Joe 90?

Hey!
I need those strings otherwise I'd fall over.

Prof - R
10th September 2007, 00:03
hey i would just like to know if anyone knows where i can get one of these cameras from

delusionz
11th September 2007, 13:01
man the sound is fuct on that camera.

zeocen does video blogs and his sound is perfect, ask him what his camera is

NordieBoy
11th September 2007, 15:00
man the sound is fuct on that camera.

zeocen does video blogs and his sound is perfect, ask him what his camera is

But does his camera cost $200 and is his mic waterproof to 3m?

unrealone
12th September 2007, 09:31
Called Noel Leeming last Saturday morning before a ride out, and got mixed replys from various stores (Typical). Their Tory Street store (both normal and technology) told me that they no longer stocked Oregon brand as it was unreliable.

Called the Porirua Branch and the lady was much more helpful. She knew exactly which model I was talking about and said that they were very popular (yes I know shes a salesperson, I was once too) and that they could get more in for me if I wanted. Confirmed price of $199 aswell.

So will go in sometime this week before I go for our next ride this weekend. Am planning on strapping it to my leg, or if I can be bothered work out some sort of mount on my bike. Will try and put all the suggestions in this thread to good use and let you all know what I come out with. Videos will be posted.

Shadows
12th September 2007, 10:28
Called Noel Leeming last Saturday morning before a ride out, and got mixed replys from various stores (Typical). Their Tory Street store (both normal and technology) told me that they no longer stocked Oregon brand as it was unreliable.

Called the Porirua Branch and the lady was much more helpful. She knew exactly which model I was talking about and said that they were very popular (yes I know shes a salesperson, I was once too) and that they could get more in for me if I wanted. Confirmed price of $199 aswell.

So will go in sometime this week before I go for our next ride this weekend. Am planning on strapping it to my leg, or if I can be bothered work out some sort of mount on my bike. Will try and put all the suggestions in this thread to good use and let you all know what I come out with. Videos will be posted.

Hurry up, they are ordering me a replacement one from Oz as we speak... I talked to them yesterday about it, they might be able to tag it to the order.

NordieBoy
12th September 2007, 11:08
Their Tory Street store (both normal and technology) told me that they no longer stocked Oregon brand as it was unreliable.
They stock Oregon iPod speakers though.
Oregon are big in weather stations which is where I think they make most of their $$

NL in Nelson said they thought Oregon Scientific had stopped making them or that they had gone under :D

zeocen
13th September 2007, 16:02
But does his camera cost $200 and is his mic waterproof to 3m?

Just got shown this thread..
What I do is significantly different to what you guys are trying to achieve so my method wouldn't really work that well. I ride with the thought of topics to talk about and talking about the scenery for my US/overseas mates. You couldn't really go balls to the wall with it as it might impede your vision at high speeds (I'm on a 250, so.. yeah, hasn't been an issue yet hehe).

What I did was get some velcro, a sony dsc-t3 camera and slapped it in my helmet with the lens just peeking over the chin guard, this lets me still see everything as I cruise at a leisurely pace, and having the camera in my helmet it also lets me talk without wind noise (if visor is down), so I'm able to talk shit while riding around.

I know a few other motorcycle 'video loggers' who use this method, and do some intense speeding, but it's mostly American's so it's usually just straight road warrior type stuff, I'm not sure if it would be terribly safe going at crazy speeds in corners with a camera in your face.

The 2 options for camera-in-your-face-vlogging is the sony-dsc series and the Kodak-v750.. the v750 lens is further down the camera so you have to stick the whole camera on the visor, but it's significantly better video quality.

To see what mine looks like (it will bore you, i'm not a good rider... yet!) check out http://livevideo.com/zeocen , Or for better riders go to LiveVideo and search for my mates 'Mordeth13' and 'Trinith' ... 'RideYourRide' is another good one.

zeocen
13th September 2007, 16:20
man the sound is fuct on that camera.


I dont think the sound is fucked on the camera, it just sounds like it's vibrating against the frame it's on.. you could probably remedy that by putting some foam or cloth between the camera and whatever it's vibrating on.

vagrant
17th September 2007, 20:28
I dont think the sound is fucked on the camera, it just sounds like it's vibrating against the frame it's on.. you could probably remedy that by putting some foam or cloth between the camera and whatever it's vibrating on.

The microphone is a cheapy, and not well mounted inside the camera. I am in the process of trying to pull it out and replace it with a plug. Then I can put a mic in my helmet, and run a cable to the camera.
It might not be as waterproff, but if my bike gets that deep in water, I don't think i'll be that bothered about a $200 camera leaking.

Will update when and if I get it to work.