Well, I'm confused.

[James Deuce]

After taking some fairly severe criticism for pointing out some of the tasteless behaviour on KB after our last nightmare, today's River Rd accident has prompted replies that include not posting details and not posting names.

Could someone please post the rules in regard to just when it is OK use free speech as an excuse for crass posting and when it isn't?

I'm buggered if I can figure it out.

[Disco Dan]

my understanding was that if you are related and/or have permission from family to detail the accident then you can post it up?

I aggree, some clarification would be nice... again... :shutup:

[boomer]

Why can't people just use common sense, we we're all born with it.

[Sketchy_Racer]

we're all going to know eventually....

Yes descretion is needed for such a sensitive topic, but to say that we shouldn't talk about it all, is a bit over the top.

[Skyryder]

I think there just needs to be some common sense in these matters. Clearly no names and if in doubt just keep the speculation off site and use the PM system untill all is clarified.

Skyryder

[MSTRS]

That was the case in the earlier threads (at least early on) before there was a public announcement of the names, was it not? That is site policy and has been for some time. Only went 'bad' way down the line, as I recall.

[James Deuce]

Let's not go there RG. I just want to know, in black and white, who is allowed to post about an accident, and who isn't, and who is allowed to respond to the posts about the accident, and who isn't.

OK?

[MSTRS]

We can talk about an accident in general terms but with no specifics. I thinks.

[boomer]

Surely any one can post what they like when they like; however a little common decency with regards to ensuring facts are straight AND the people who need to be informed FIRST have been.

Just think before you post! man i can't believe some of you lot.. your like fukin five year old drama queens; THINK!

[James Deuce]

No need to get aggro boomer, and I think you're missing the point.

[Finn]

man i can't believe some of you lot.. your like fukin five year old drama queens; THINK!

I'm not 5, just a little short.

[Skyryder]

We can talk about an accident in general terms but with no specifics. I thinks.

That's how I understand it. I don't have a problem with time, place, or bike. It's the speculation that gets to me. Is it it so and so, saw him/her etc etc.

Not too sure if asking family for posting permission is on, either. I think they have enough to think about than that although I can see the sentiments with that course of action.

If there is to be some hard and fast rules on names then they don't get posted until the death notice is published. That of course is in the event of death. Just not too sure how you get on with serious injuries. Like I said just needs some common sense and good old fashioned courtesy.


Skyryder

[sunhuntin]

That's how I understand it. I don't have a problem with time, place, or bike. It's the speculation that gets to me. Is it it so and so, saw him/her etc etc.

Not too sure if asking family for posting permission is on, either. I think they have enough to think about than that although I can see the sentiments with that course of action.

If there is to be some hard and fast rules on names then they don't get posted until the death notice is published. That of course is in the event of death. Just not too sure how you get on with serious injuries. Like I said just needs some common sense and good old fashioned courtesy.


Skyryder

i think with injury, not death, names should be allowed to be posted after the person in question has been asked/family member asked. with injury, chances of survival are high, and with the name known, true messages of support can be posted.

with death, i think wait until the papers/tv news/radio have announced it. in the case of the latest mess, names should be with-held unless done via pm if someone is worried about a friend. even a bike description can be an indentifier for friends. just not put out to the general public.

[Skyryder]

i think with injury, not death, names should be allowed to be posted after the person in question has been asked/family member asked. with injury, chances of survival are high, and with the name known, true messages of support can be posted.

with death, i think wait until the papers/tv news/radio have announced it. in the case of the latest mess, names should be with-held unless done via pm if someone is worried about a friend. even a bike description can be an indentifier for friends. just not put out to the general public.

Yep, that's about where I am coming from. I don't have a problem with the bike although I can see your resoning behind this. The other side of the coin is that the bike 'can' alert those that might know the rider . And that's just one of reasons these sorts of posts get posted. People can then make privatre enquires and if necessary give their support to the family.


Skyryder

[sunhuntin]

Yep, that's about where I am coming from. I don't have a problem with the bike although I can see your resoning behind this. The other side of the coin is that the bike 'can' alert those that might know the rider . And that's just one of reasons these sorts of posts get posted. People can then make privatre enquires and if necessary give their support to the family.


Skyryder

mmm, im gonna just say "what he said"

btw...when i next come off and cant tell ya, feel free to speculate, talk and gossip all you like. lol.

[Fatjim]

With injury, who cares.

With death, as soon as you can get to the keyboard.

[The_Dover]

Why can't people just use common sense, we we're all born with it.

:snigger:


I'm not 5, just a little short.

just a little...

[Mom]

Why can't people just use common sense, we we're all born with it.

What he said.......it's not difficult surely

[The Stranger]

just a little...

Dover recons it doesn't even reach his tonsils.

[Skyryder]

mmm, im gonna just say "what he said"

btw...when i next come off and cant tell ya, feel free to speculate, talk and gossip all you like. lol.

Yep and blame the other fucker no matter what.

Skyryder

[sunhuntin]

Yep and blame the other fucker no matter what.

Skyryder

lol. yep, till proven otherwise. i got no worries with friends or family reading...none of them know about it, or how to get here.

[Nicksta]

as somewone who was directly involved with the incidents of late i thought i would offer my side to those of you that have never experienced what i have now gone through.
I was not on the ride, threads were posted, luckily they were removed before i logged in. As i had not had a txt from Bruce all day i was worried by 4pm. It took until 5:30ish for me to be notified about the accident. I am grateful to those on KB who knew and removed anything to do with it till i was informed in person. I dont know how i would have felt if i had found out bu logging on to KB and reading a specualtion thread.
as for the subsequest threads that have been removed, that was for legal reasons only. I think once the police report is out, you can then come to your own conclusions and discuss it, but not before as i have a legal and financial issue pertaining to insurance. and let it be known that insurance companies view this site daily, I found out from my insurance company as they started asking questions.

So guys, use your head and grow some compassion. this may be an online world.. but it flows closely with reality which we all live in and some things are very serious in reality.

[Clivoris]

Good words Nicksta.

[Colapop]

That's exactly what I was thinking. There are enough partners who log on here who may not have been informed. The question you should ask yourselves is; Would you like to find out by reading about it on KB?

Unfortunately "common" sense just aint that common no more...

[Hitcher]

Once next of kin have been notified, then it starts becoming academic as to whether or not an accident is in the public arena. Yesterday's River Road accident has been published in newspapers, albeit not yet with the name of the rider. I don't see why we should hesitate from posting about something that is already being discussed in other media, subject to all of the courtesies that have been endlessly and incessantly raked over in other recent threads.

[Patch]

Boomer nailed it first up. :2thumbsup Respect and common decency should take precedence over the hot gossip line, of who and what happened.

There's too many :angry2: bloody morons on here all too concerned with their own selfish opinions and post counts, rather than dealing with the issues at hand and what they can possibly do to help and better the situation.

:mega: This maybe a public forum, but remember who does what to keep this site open for all - respect them. Also what you type has an impact on those reading it - you don't know who or when are reading what.


Just be mindful of your opinions, we are all entitled to our own, however right or wrong they are. This maybe in the cyber world, but remember there is a human being at the other end of the computer reading it, who has feelings.

Consider them before yourself :hitcher: do unto others as you would have them do unto you.

Quit posting "I crashed an blah blah" "I'm 50years old an still speed, crashed an got away with it"


Stop being bloody idiots and Think!! Its not all about me, me, me. Think about your fellow men and how your actions will implicate them. You never know when your likely to need their help.

As Dr. Phil said "There are only two types of person in any given situation - A Contributor or Contaminator?? Which are you?"

Merry Xmas

Ps. Learn to bloody spell too :bleh:

EoR

[James Deuce]

Thank you Boomer and Patch.

[marty]

Merry Xmas

Ps. Learn to bloody spell too :bleh:

EoR

ouch. your post wasn't exactly error free. just like the posts about crashes.......

[Hitcher]

Some people appear to have formed strange views about what may be published on this site and the ability of that to elicit what may be presumed as sub-optimal outcomes from insurance companies. Far-be-it from me to get in the way of a good conspiracy theory, but I believe it is always best to be completely straight in one's dealings with an insurer, particularly if one is required to escalate matters.