Is a fzr-r 250 too powerful as a first bike?

[who_me_33]

As the topic states, is this (http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Motorbikes/Sports/auction-80917252.htm ) too powerfull as a first bike. As of yet I have not driven a motorbike (well driven 2 and 4 wheeled farm bikes, but they dont count) and am planning to learn to ride a bike to a sufficent standard on boxing day (flogging my brothers bike for the day when im home for christmas) to do the learners licence handling test. Also re that bike, is that too much to pay for one, or is it high k's for a fzr-r. As my budget is ideally $4000 including gear (im trying to allow $600 for gear), if anyone has any suggestions for a better bike in that price range, I will also look into it. Also im aprox 85kgs, and just shy of 6 foot if it helps in recomending a bike. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

[vtec]

Powerwise, it's ideal for a learner. Cheap on gas, but I've heard good and bad things about the FZR250. 31,000k's is fine. Sourcing parts for this model will be difficult, cause they are nowhere near as common these days as the CBR's or ZXR's.

I've got two CBR250RR's that I'm selling; at least one of them now, and one of them not long after. I want $5,000 not negotiable for them though. Both a little over 30,000k's. I'll be advertising them on this site as soon as I get my arse into gear and get the camera out (hopefully this weekend). I've got heaps of spares for the CBR's aswell.

[Ixion]

The fact that you are sensible enough to consider the question and ask advice is a good indicator that it will not be a problem. Well done, a very sensible approach to riding.

Welcome, and I hope your riding career is long and enjoyable.

[toymachine]

If I were you i'd try allow a little more then $600 for gear, also think about possibly having to repair/replace those fairings as learning progesses and mishaps occur.

If you think you can control yourself with regards to riding a powerful bike while learning then feel free, it'll serve you well once you've found your legs (by which time people on lower powered learner bikes will have essentially outgrown them, or feel that way).

As pointed out think about the parts aspect too..

My 2c

[nodrog]

As the topic states, is this (http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Motorbikes/Sports/auction-80917252.htm ) too powerfull as a first bike. As of yet I have not driven a motorbike (well driven 2 and 4 wheeled farm bikes, but they dont count) and am planning to learn to ride a bike to a sufficent standard on boxing day (flogging my brothers bike for the day when im home for christmas) to do the learners licence handling test. Also re that bike, is that too much to pay for one, or is it high k's for a fzr-r. As my budget is ideally $4000 including gear (im trying to allow $600 for gear), if anyone has any suggestions for a better bike in that price range, I will also look into it. Also im aprox 85kgs, and just shy of 6 foot if it helps in recomending a bike. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.


this is exactly the same as the first bike i ever owned, served its pupose well, not too powerful to scare the shit out of you, handled reasonably good, and i am 6 foot and i never found it uncomfortable. the only problem i had was when i held it in top gear on redline for way too long and it spat the bottom of the conrod out the righthand side of the block, locking the flywheel and covering my leg in hot oil. but dont let that put you off, if its been serviced well it should be sweet (mine wasnt maintained at all)

[who_me_33]

With the parts, might it be a better idea to get a more standard model (just a fzr instead of the fzr-r). Or are the parts that would be broken in a mishap (fairings etc) not too hard to source. And with the gear, how much would you allow for a start (for the time being im just wanting safety gear). And would a bike of that size have a big enough fuel tank for going over the lewis pass (from Chch to Reefton eventually) (its 250km).

[SPman]

Either model will be OK
Parts are variable in sourcing and normally expensive.
For gear - a good helmet, gloves, and a jacket would ba a start and boots, or at least wear good stout footwear.
Should do 250k if you don't cane it - just!
Good bike for beginners because there is stuff all power below 10000rpm so it has a soft start up.

[hellnback]

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[who_me_33]

Either model will be OK
Parts are variable in sourcing and normally expensive.
For gear - a good helmet, gloves, and a jacket would ba a start and boots, or at least wear good stout footwear.
Should do 250k if you don't cane it - just!
Good bike for beginners because there is stuff all power below 10000rpm so it has a soft start up.
Re the stuff all power below, is this common on a lot of 250's. And I can only assume it makes it a bit more driveable round town for the first short while.

[MidnightMike]

It depends on the engine type re the power.
It makes it more driveable around town, you just have to try and keep it below 10,000 rpm so you dont get a kick up the but and take off faster than your wanting.

[SPman]

Re the stuff all power below, is this common on a lot of 250's. And I can only assume it makes it a bit more driveable round town for the first short while.

Common on the multis - the twins make more low down grunt. I think the lower low rev power makes them soft to drive around town, but there is the 12000 and up to play with, when you get more confident

[R6_kid]

250 4's do have power, but power is proportional to the rotation of your right hand wrist...

[BarBender]

Short answer - no.

[Squiggles]

ello nick, go for a fzr as the parts would be easier to source
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=81920917&key=59948

seeya in a week or two :yes:

[who_me_33]

ello nick, go for a fzr as the parts would be easier to source
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=81920917&key=59948

seeya in a week or two :yes:
Noticed that, but its at the wrong end of the country. Funny how all the tempting bikes end up at the wrong end of the country. Also is there anything similar to the aa checkover on cars, that you can get done on bikes, or are you best off just getting someone who knows bikes well to have a good look over it.
Ive also been told about the zzr 205's, but they seem to be hard to get hold of, is it worth the wait to try and get one of them, or are they fairly similar to some of the other 250's (i assume the power delivery would be fairly similar to most of the twin cylinder 250's).

[sAsLEX]

Short answer - no.

The only 250 that would be TOO powerful for a complete novice would be a 2 stroke due to their nastier power delivery, though if you aint a dumbass you would cope fine with one.

[RPM91]

Hey M8 I live in chch also, What kind of price range are you looking at spending for a 250 ? Id recommend getting either a ZXR 250C Model which ive owned b4 or a Honda cbr250rr, either one would be a good choice, I kno of a place called motorcycle import direct which is on moorhouse ave and they have a couple 1991 and 93 fzr 250s there with low ks for 5g and also a zxr model so have a browse round there, thats where I brought my 250 from the zxr, anyways Ive upgraded now and ride a rvf 400 but good luck bro and if you need any help just give me a pm and ill get intouch with you

cheers

[sAsLEX]

www.emoto.co.nz is chch based, got my cbr through them.

[Snowcarver04]

With the parts, might it be a better idea to get a more standard model (just a fzr instead of the fzr-r). Or are the parts that would be broken in a mishap (fairings etc) not too hard to source. And with the gear, how much would you allow for a start (for the time being im just wanting safety gear). And would a bike of that size have a big enough fuel tank for going over the lewis pass (from Chch to Reefton eventually) (its 250km).


No 250 is too powerfull for a learner.

Ive just bought a 04 suzuki gsx 250.These bikes have bulletproff engines im told and is going really well.I picked it up for $3600 with brand new piralli sport demons front and back and a year long warrant and rego.

You go buy a bike thats over ten years old and u end up spending more on maintenance so the older bike generally costs you more so your better off spending that little bit more and buying a newer decent bike.

I bought all my gear from Motomail outlet store in Auckland. They sell all end of line shit and are really cheap I found. Got RJAYS boots pants and jacket rev it gloves and a HJC cl 14 switch helmet for $800 which I thought was pretty good. All brand new and survived one decent crash sliding down the road and still in good condition. Worth getting a decent helmet.I think the Cl 14 switch was $350 or something down from $450.Comes with and extra fog free visor and is the european design which is lighter and suppose to be stronger than the standard CL 14.

Anyhow more to the point, I found motomail the best value for money and they also do mail order which I guess can be hard if your not familiar with the sizing etc.

And dont buy rev it gloves.
I took my first pair back cause as soon as they get wet the glue in the finger tips holding the linings unsticks and its a pain in the arse trying to get your fingers back in.And I was taking them off really carefully and same happened to my second pair.

Anyhow theres my 2c:dodge:

[who_me_33]

Wound up getting something tamer, and cheaper, an fxr150, ($2450, 01 model, 14000k's, and included helmet, gloves (both of which are too small) and pannier bags). And now got my licence, so time to start riding.

[Storm]

Enjoy the riding mate, onya for getting a set of wheels.

PS Rule No 1 of riding on the road(you may already know this)
Treat everyone else on the road as a homicidal, incompetant lunatic hellbent on killing you.
Trust me, it'll do you no end of good

[who_me_33]

Enjoy the riding mate, onya for getting a set of wheels.

PS Rule No 1 of riding on the road(you may already know this)
Treat everyone else on the road as a homicidal, incompetant lunatic hellbent on killing you.
Trust me, it'll do you no end of good

Yep, its all there trying to do I think, I think getting from a to b for most of them is not so important. And it was the same story on the mountain bke round the city.

[Bangbug]

Good question.
You only have as much power as you are prepared to use (turn throttle == more, and vica versa, lol)
So don't worry about the good old fzr they have a bit more torque than the cbr and can handle plenty of weight on em. they're pretty cool.
Best of luck :)