Displaying Leaner Plate........

[Snapper]

I was fined for not displaying a leaner plate...... I have written to the Police Infringement Bureau explaining that the L plate was definitely displayed when I left for the journey I made, yet they have written back saying 'after careful consideration the offense will not be waived'.

I also explained that I have made every effort to ensure I display the L plate and that I have had difficulty due to the design of the bike (surface area to attached the plate) etc.

How carefully did they consider that the plate was on my bike when I was last physically ABLE to see the back of my bike? How much more effort is humanly possible? Am I supposed to pull over every 5 minutes and make sure it's there?

I am now having to write back and request a hearing to get a judge to decide. What a waste of public time and money, for what!?!?!

I have witness at the address I left who also tell me the L plate was certainly attached to my bike when I set off. TAX payers money will be wasted sorting this out!

I'm wondering if anyone else has had the same petty crap from the long arm of the law.

Shame they can't spend more time stopping the boy-racers wheel-spinning and speeding past my home every day and night, mufflers n'all.

Rant over..........for now!

Merry Christmas by the way! :bye:

[Grub]

My g/f lost about 5 learner plates that we had velcroed on. The FXR150 had just a slim slither of rear bumber to stick anything to. Eventually I undid the reg plate and screwed it back on through the learner plate.

She never got a ticket but after the third one, I took photo of us putting the plate on and of the velcro (that is supplied with the plate) all in place.

Maybe you can take a series of photos now to support your evidence. I would take it to court and make them look silly. A word of warning, don't try and pretend that a photo you take tomorrow was taken before the offence. All digital photo files have EXIF data that can't be changed, which records all the camera setting at the time of the photo.

Brett

[sunhuntin]

just bolt the plate on with the license, rego and such. that where mine is....only down side is its in a spot where the tyre has had a pretty good munch. its been on 3 bike, in 3 positions, and as a result, there are portions missing. lol.

[Karma]

Hahaha...

The good old "We've considered your letter and decided Fuck You! anyways"

Do you really think they even read your letter? Probably got to the bit where you said something like "my fine should be overturned" and then sent you out a stock Fuck Off letter.

[McJim]

The problem you are facing is the large number of riders who do not bother with an L plate at all and then bleat that it fell off when faced with $400 and 25 demerit points.

I believe you firmly affixed your L plate to the back of the bike and that you were unfortunate enough that it fell off. The fact remains that the law states you must have an L plate of prescribed dimensions firmly affixed bneneath your number plate and you did not - regardless of how it came to not be there it wasn't there when you were stopped.

I used the old "drill a hole through number place and bolt it onto the mudguard" technique. Worked for me.

[Karma]

Firmly affixed?? with a small strip of velcro??

[Snapper]

I'm quite happy for my hard earned tax payed money to be spent prosecuting you. If you didn't have an L plate displayed and were fined, then you were unlucky enough to encounter a dickhead cop. The fact still remains, you did not have an L plate and the law is the law.

I hate the law too. Anyway, back to earning dollars to pay for your prosecution. I'm so upset.

There has to be boundaries on what can and cannot be perceived as doing ones best to ensure the plate is attached. Much like you cannot be blamed for a light bulb blowing while you drive. Having a broken headlight before you leave for a journey is one thing, having it break WHILE you drive is another.

So, back to my comments on 'human effort' - what do you propose I am suppose to do about the fact that a plate can come off without my knowing? And the fact that it was on when I set off...

And you think this sort of law is one worth wasting hard earned money on when there are more serious issues with society? That to me is somewhat deranged!

[Snapper]

Firmly affixed?? with a small strip of velcro??

Cable tie. But using a cable tie means making holes in the L plate which in turn weaken the L plate, and when scooting along the wind then rips it off. It's happened several times. The remaining part of the plate was and still is clearly visible on the bike.

[Snapper]

Hahaha...

The good old "We've considered your letter and decided Fuck You! anyways"

Do you really think they even read your letter? Probably got to the bit where you said something like "my fine should be overturned" and then sent you out a stock Fuck Off letter.

Of course they did. They do Joe Public no favours at-all really, do they!

[Snapper]

My g/f lost about 5 learner plates that we had velcroed on. The FXR150 had just a slim slither of rear bumber to stick anything to. Eventually I undid the reg plate and screwed it back on through the learner plate.

She never got a ticket but after the third one, I took photo of us putting the plate on and of the velcro (that is supplied with the plate) all in place.

Maybe you can take a series of photos now to support your evidence. I would take it to court and make them look silly. A word of warning, don't try and pretend that a photo you take tomorrow was taken before the offence. All digital photo files have EXIF data that can't be changed, which records all the camera setting at the time of the photo.

Brett

Thanks for this advise Brett

[Snapper]

The problem you are facing is the large number of riders who do not bother with an L plate at all and then bleat that it fell off when faced with $400 and 25 demerit points.

I believe you firmly affixed your L plate to the back of the bike and that you were unfortunate enough that it fell off. The fact remains that the law states you must have an L plate of prescribed dimensions firmly affixed bneneath your number plate and you did not - regardless of how it came to not be there it wasn't there when you were stopped.

I used the old "drill a hole through number place and bolt it onto the mudguard" technique. Worked for me.

I will have a look and see if this is possible. I believe it will cover a reflector though and that would fail a warrant.

[SwanTiger]

And you think this sort of law is one worth wasting hard earned money on when there are more serious issues with society? That to me is somewhat deranged!
I agree that the law is stupid and wastes resources, however as myself and McJim have already stated, the law is the law and at the time you did not have an L plate displayed.

I'm not being negative, this is an explanation for why they refused to waiver the fine you received. No amount of court appearances or lawyers will devoid of the fact you did not have an L plate displayed which has a very clearly defined law and consequence.

[-df-]

My g/f lost about 5 learner plates that we had velcroed on. The FXR150 had just a slim slither of rear bumber to stick anything to. Eventually I undid the reg plate and screwed it back on through the learner plate.

She never got a ticket but after the third one, I took photo of us putting the plate on and of the velcro (that is supplied with the plate) all in place.

Maybe you can take a series of photos now to support your evidence. I would take it to court and make them look silly. A word of warning, don't try and pretend that a photo you take tomorrow was taken before the offence. All digital photo files have EXIF data that can't be changed, which records all the camera setting at the time of the photo.

Brett

not correct, EXIF data can be changed and the tag can be modified that holds the original date of the photo taken...I spent a wee while coding a EXIF coder/decoder last year. There are programs on the net that can do this, if you can't find one that will allow you to change the date and you have a hex editor just open it up and directly change the dates within the photo as they are just stored in there (at the top part). Just make sure you don't and any extra (or remove any) chars/bytes in there otherwise all the offset pointers will be shot and the photo wont open.

Not that I recommend you doing this...just educating you on the fact you can ;)

[Snapper]

I agree that the law is stupid and wastes resources, however as myself and McJim have already stated, the law is the law and at the time you did not have a L plate displayed.

I'm not being negative, this is an explanation for why they refused to waiver the fine you received. No amount of court appearances or lawyers will devoid of the fact you did not have an L plate displayed which has a very clearly defined law and consequence.

So someone driving at night with only one headlight should not be given the benefit of the doubt that it was working when they set off? I disagree. Someone who gets pulled frequently for such issues, sure, nail them.

The law may be the law, but it does have leniency and guidelines which are at the discretion of the officer at the time. If I can show that I have made every effort possible I don't see why I shouldn't be let off due to that discretion being harsh.

I have not received demerit points for this incidentally, and have been advised by my solicitor just moments ago that there should be no problem getting it waived with the help of my witnesses (one of which works for the Ministry of Justice).

[Snapper]

not correct, EXIF data can be changed and the tag can be modified that holds the original date of the photo taken...I spent a wee while coding a EXIF coder/decoder last year. There are programs on the net that can do this, if you can't find one that will allow you to change the date and you have a hex editor just open it up and directly change the dates within the photo as they are just stored in there (at the top part). Just make sure you don't and any extra (or remove any) chars/bytes in there otherwise all the offset pointers will be shot and the photo wont open.

Not that I recommend you doing this...just educating you on the fact you can ;)

Nice one. I'm actually an MCSE, networking/servers being my thing, so this should be easy enough. Not that I will be doing it of course!

[bull]

what was the reason for pulling you over initially before they discovered that they could fine you for the no L - plate offence?

[Snapper]

what was the reason for pulling you over initially before they discovered that they could fine you for the no L - plate offense?

Speeding, 62 in a 50. This was months ago, it's taken them nearly 4 weeks to get back to my letter about the plate. I've paid the speeding fine.

[sunhuntin]

my l plate has seen 3 bikes, been in one accident, and covered from paeroa to invercargill, plus many more k's in between those trips. all up, its been there just shy of 2 years.
when i first went out, mum followed me and we cut on corner off that was blocking the inidicator. had an accident, new bike, l plate in a different spot. tyre had a munch on the way to bulls, meaning there are two opposing corners gone. the lower right corner is gone as well, after it got sucked into the tyre heading south. ive been through 3 check points, and have not been told to get a new one by any of the officers.
velcro and cable ties will not hold a plate on, especially if its in a spot that is not protected from the wind.

[Hellraiser]

I will have a look and see if this is possible. I believe it will cover a reflector though and that would fail a warrant.

If it covers your reflector you can be fined for not being up to WOF standard even though you may have a current WOF.

So you choose ........

a). No L plate ......... $400

b). Not up to WOF standard ......... $150

c). Walk.

[ArcherWC]

i got fined for no L Plate on my RSV 1000, the coppa wouldnt accept my international licence (he was a dick)

[Alice]

I lost my L plate 2nd ride, first ride I was to excited to spend time attaching it. When I delved into the little cardboard wrapper and discovered there was only valcro to attach the dam thing I thought to myself this is not going to last five minutes. Well I do not know how long it lasted, but 160km later there was definitly no sign of it. I was hoping it would stay on so the considerate car drivers would have a bit of patience with me.
I rung the AA Sat morn to find out if they possibley had plates more suitable for bikes thinking perhaps that was the problem, I should have asked for L plates for a bike, hu, my mistake, ....but the lines where all busy, then I got busy.
Think I will ring them again in a minute.

[Citroenjunkie]

I am more than happy to have my fortnightly tax payment used in your defence, even if these other misers aren't.

I was once chased and pushed along the motorway by a cop in an Xr8 complete with mags, spoilers and the rest and when I tried to explain his downright dangerous behaviour to the constabulary I got the same letter, so go on, have a go at my expense.

I'd rather pay for your case than a stadium for f#*%@n rugby!!! :done:

[sunhuntin]

I lost my L plate 2nd ride, first ride I was to excited to spend time attaching it. When I delved into the little cardboard wrapper and discovered there was only valcro to attach the dam thing I thought to myself this is not going to last five minutes. Well I do not know how long it lasted, but 160km later there was definitly no sign of it. I was hoping it would stay on so the considerate car drivers would have a bit of patience with me.
I rung the AA Sat morn to find out if they possibley had plates more suitable for bikes thinking perhaps that was the problem, I should have asked for L plates for a bike, hu, my mistake, ....but the lines where all busy, then I got busy.
Think I will ring them again in a minute.

alice...dont bother with the aa!! way to pricey there! buck stores and the link sometimes have them, warehouse might have them.
when you attach this one, take out the bolt that holds your rego card, make a hole in one corner of the l plate, and attach both l and rego back onto bike with the bolt. check for indicator/reflector clearance, and your away laughing.

[Snapper]

If it covers your reflector you can be fined for not being up to WOF standard even though you may have a current WOF.

So you choose ........

a). No L plate ......... $400

b). Not up to WOF standard ......... $150

c). Walk.

LOL. Well now I know this I will chose the 150, assuming there are no demerit points for that?!?!?

What a waste of time ha. I would have had a new plate on the bike the next day anyway and could easily have ridden to a police station to prove it!

[Snapper]

I am more than happy to have my fortnightly tax payment used in your defense, even if these other misers aren't.

I was once chased and pushed along the motorway by a cop in an Xr8 complete with mags, spoilers and the rest and when I tried to explain his downright dangerous behavior to the constabulary I got the same letter, so go on, have a go at my expense.

I'd rather pay for your case than a stadium for f#*%@n rugby!!! :done:

HEAR HEAR! I've been 'pushed' up a highway by an aggressive cop just recently too (WITH my L plate on). W***rs.

[Snapper]

i got fined for no L Plate on my RSV 1000, the coppa wouldnt accept my international licence (he was a dick)

They have nothing better to do than get their revenue up!

[Snapper]

I am more than happy to have my fortnightly tax payment used in your defence, even if these other misers aren't.

I was once chased and pushed along the motorway by a cop in an Xr8 complete with mags, spoilers and the rest and when I tried to explain his downright dangerous behaviour to the constabulary I got the same letter, so go on, have a go at my expense.

I'd rather pay for your case than a stadium for f#*%@n rugby!!! :done:

Oh and thanks for the TAX offering! :scooter:

[crashe]

If you are going to fight it......

Take pictures of where it is attached and how it is attached to show the JP's in court.



BTW court costs are also $130 on top of any fine if you should loose in court.

If you win then there is no court costs.

[Snapper]

If you are going to fight it......

Take pictures of where it is attached and how it is attached to show the JP's in court.



BTW court costs are also $130 on top of any fine if you should loose in court.

If you win then there is no court costs.

Yeah I'll take photos, and my witnesses. And I figured the $130 would be worth the principle!

Thanks!!!

[jumma]

Sorry to hear about your misfortune. I've been pulled once and the officer kindly suggested I stick an L plate on, but said he wasn't losing any sleep over it himself.

Must admit to never putting one on, have managed to avoid the plod for five months now, and come the end of January I shouldn't be required to display one any longer.

Keep us posted as to the outcome.

[imdying]

I wouldn't waste your time. You didn't securely fasten it to the bike and got nicked, lesson learnt.

Those using velcro, well wtf did you expect would happen... At a guess, the velcro is designed to be used inside a cars windscreen. It doesn't take too many brain cells to rub together to figure out that on a bike velcro is next to useless.

[Snapper]

Sorry to hear about your misfortune. I've been pulled once and the officer kindly suggested I stick an L plate on, but said he wasn't losing any sleep over it himself.

Must admit to never putting one on, have managed to avoid the plod for five months now, and come the end of January I shouldn't be required to display one any longer.

Keep us posted as to the outcome.

Thanks Jumma and good luck with the full test!!!

[Snapper]

I wouldn't waste your time. You didn't securely fasten it to the bike and got nicked, lesson learnt.

Those using velcro, well wtf did you expect would happen... At a guess, the velcro is designed to be used inside a cars windscreen. It doesn't take too many brain cells to rub together to figure out that on a bike velcro is next to useless.

I secured it as best I could, hence wanting to not pay $400 punishment for not doing so. I.e. why should I pay $400 for not making an effort when I did make an effort.

I can see your point, but I guess I'm stubborn!

[NighthawkNZ]

Why is it $400 for no L-Plate and only $150 for no WOF...

WTF




I will admit when I was on my learners many a year ago... I didn't bother with the L-Plate and was pulled over a few times... Mr Plod didn't seem to care about it and I never got stung...

Its just revenue gathering

[jumma]

Thanks Jumma and good luck with the full test!!!

Restricted actually, cheers.

[imdying]

I secured it as best I could, hence wanting to not pay $400 punishment for not doing so. I.e. why should I pay $400 for not making an effort when I did make an effort.Look at it like this; in this case, they're not fining you for not making an effort, they're fining you for making an inadequate effort.


It's happened several times.Or if that doesn't make you feel better, then how about this; they're not fining you for not making an effort, they're fining you for making an inadequate effort more than once.


The reality is, plenty of people can manage to bolt there L plate on successfully, you'll get no sympathy here, especially given that you knew your method of afixing it to the bike was flawed. Think of it as third time unlucky... the first few times it fell off were your warnings.

[klingon]

I used the old "drill a hole through number place and bolt it onto the mudguard" technique. Worked for me.

I've drilled two holes through the number plate and two through the L plate and bolted it on. Interestingly, my full-licensed partner sometimes rides my bike and apparently he can be fined for riding a bike with a learner plate when he's not a learner! But a securely attached plate is a pain to remove... looks like we can't win.

On the L plate package it gives clear instructions on how to use the enclosed velcro to attach the L plate. 1) cut the velcro 2) attach the velcro to the inside of your rear window... after looking for my Volty's rear window for several minutes, I eventually caught onto the idea that velcro may not suit my purposes...


LOL. Well now I know this I will chose the 150, assuming there are no demerit points for that?!?!?


Hmmm... I would still prefer to have my rear reflector showing. The potential demerit points are some idiot rear-ending you! Is there any way you can modify the L plate to allow your reflector to show? Chop a bit of the corner like Sunhuntin or drill a massive hole through the middle if you need to!

[KLOWN]

I wouldn't waste your time. You didn't securely fasten it to the bike and got nicked, lesson learnt.

Those using velcro, well wtf did you expect would happen... At a guess, the velcro is designed to be used inside a cars windscreen. It doesn't take too many brain cells to rub together to figure out that on a bike velcro is next to useless.

I used the velcro to attach my L plate and it never fell off. Eventually I took it off when I had enough confidence and didn't want to get pulled over for exceeding 70km. I have been pulled over by cops twice and they let the no l-plate slide.

[Hitcher]

I was fined for not displaying a leaner plate.

Is that a plate that is thinner than normal, or some sort of permit required before one can turn one's bike? Certainly a fine seems in order for the latter, rather than the former.

[M1CRO]

What did you say to the cop that stopped you on the side of the road? Is it possible that he wrote down some other reason "at the time"?

[mynameis]

So someone driving at night with only one headlight should not be given the benefit of the doubt that it was working when they set off? I disagree. Someone who gets pulled frequently for such issues, sure, nail them.

The law may be the law, but it does have leniency and guidelines which are at the discretion of the officer at the time. If I can show that I have made every effort possible I don't see why I shouldn't be let off due to that discretion being harsh.

I have not received demerit points for this incidentally, and have been advised by my solicitor just moments ago that there should be no problem getting it waived with the help of my witnesses (one of which works for the Ministry of Justice).

I like your attitude boy! But without being a complete cirtical ass here get ready for a few unexpected things to be thrown at you when you're in court, remember it's their daily job and they've dealt with thousands like you before.

Yes you have made an effort which is good, but no your effort wasn't good enough hence the L plate fell off. On the other hand there are people who can sensibly, securely bolt the L plate on, what makes you think you're special and that the judge should or would consider your case.

So what would your answer be when you get this thrown at you? Just making sure you are aware of things which might come your way, that way you will be better prepared in court. Either case good luck.

mynameis

[Grub]

I like your attitude boy!
Yes you have made an effort which is good, but no your effort wasn't good enough hence the L plate fell off. On the other hand there are people who can sensibly, securely bolt the L plate on, what makes you think you're special and that the judge should or would consider your case.

I agree with that in legal terms, but having been in that position, perhaps I can explain. My g/f got her learners and the plate from the AA. Remember, they are the agency contracted by LTSA to do this stuff. In the packet was two L plates and velcro. She's never ridden a bike before and it's a long time since I had. We figured that if they supplied velcro then velcro would do the job.When we lost the first two, we thought somebody had nicked them. It never occurred to us that they blew off.

Without experience of the wind loads and pressures that the plate(s) would be under, we fully expected the supplied equipment to be up to the job. There are clauses in the Commerce Act or Fair Trading Act to that effect. You pay money, you expect to be supplied with goods adequate for purpose - the law supports you. I would explain to the JP's that you expected velcro to work because that is what was supplied for the puropose.

We're much wiser now too ... but I don't think it's appropriate to beat up someone because they didn't know that the vendor of the L-Plate wasn't acting in good faith.

Brett

[sunhuntin]

I agree with that in legal terms, but having been in that position, perhaps I can explain. My g/f got her learners and the plate from the AA. Remember, they are the agency contracted by LTSA to do this stuff. In the packet was two L plates and velcro. She's never ridden a bike before and it's a long time since I had. We figured that if they supplied velcro then velcro would do the job.When we lost the first two, we thought somebody had nicked them. It never occurred to us that they blew off.

Without experience of the wind loads and pressures that the plate(s) would be under, we fully expected the supplied equipment to be up to the job. There are clauses in the Commerce Act or Fair Trading Act to that effect. You pay money, you expect to be supplied with goods adequate for purpose - the law supports you. I would explain to the JP's that you expected velcro to work because that is what was supplied for the puropose.

We're much wiser now too ... but I don't think it's appropriate to beat up someone because they didn't know that the vendor of the L-Plate wasn't acting in good faith.

Brett


sorry...im not buying that.
surely, if youve ridden bikes before, youll know how strong the wind can be by how you get blown about. theres no way you can expect a dot of velcro to withstand that wind.... you say its a long time since youd ridden bikes when you wife got involved...i doubt the wind got any weaker or stronger in the time you werent riding.

im sure, had you asked, the aa person would have advised on the best way to attach the plate so that it doesnt blow off. its not that hard...dot of velcro vs. a speed of 100k, and wind likely making that speed higher [wind speed, either head or tail.] means tiny dot of velcro will lose. even with the bolt, i wouldnt be surprised if mine vanished, but thats cos its old and brittle, not due to insecure attachment.

[mynameis]

I agree with that in legal terms, but having been in that position, perhaps I can explain. My g/f got her learners and the plate from the AA. Remember, they are the agency contracted by LTSA to do this stuff. In the packet was two L plates and velcro. She's never ridden a bike before and it's a long time since I had. We figured that if they supplied velcro then velcro would do the job.When we lost the first two, we thought somebody had nicked them. It never occurred to us that they blew off.

Without experience of the wind loads and pressures that the plate(s) would be under, we fully expected the supplied equipment to be up to the job. There are clauses in the Commerce Act or Fair Trading Act to that effect. You pay money, you expect to be supplied with goods adequate for purpose - the law supports you. I would explain to the JP's that you expected velcro to work because that is what was supplied for the puropose.

We're much wiser now too ... but I don't think it's appropriate to beat up someone because they didn't know that the vendor of the L-Plate wasn't acting in good faith.

Brett

Yeap Brett I couldn't agree less here. And that's the reason why I said good luck with it, I guess we wouldn't know what type of judge he gets and what the verdict is.

It's all a wait and see game. But to be realistic, I see he does have a chance and on the other hand you can get a dog who will just say, it doesn't take much to figure out that velcro isn't suitable for bikes but cars only and it doesn't take a genius to figure this out.

Yes we do rely on vendors to provide us with as much info as possible but do remember some responsibility does lie on buyers/consumers end as well and if the judge turns around and says you didn't carry out your responsibility properly then I don't think there is much to say?

What do you think mate?

mynameis

[nodrog]

In the packet was two L plates and velcro.

dude, the velcro is for the window of your car



....... It never occurred to us that they blew off.....your farkin joking? :stupid:

[ferretface]

I got ticketed for parking my bike in the UK on double yellows for about 20 minutes (bastards) although I was parked at the end of a parking space.

I disputed the ticket saying that someone moved my bike onto the yellowline so that they could get out of a space easily.

They bought the excuse and sent me a letter saying "on this occasion we have decided not to...." but the council/law should always give the benefit of doubt for the first time offense and if it happens again after that - tough titties.

[MWVT]

I for one wish you good luck....

maybe out of guilt because i'm one of those ones who has used the "sorry officer must have come off" excuse before (successfully).

For the "the laws the law" brigade, if his defense is being conducted in a legal manner and then a judge finds him not guilty, then he's not guilty, that's the law too.

Good luck

[lukelin250]

good luck dude, its a stupid law. i have been fined once for it, i continue to ride with it half showing under my plate and ride pass dozens of cops every week, and havnt been fined since. as usual its upto the cop and how hes feeling at the time and wether he needs to fill his quota. show me a way that having my l plate on is gonna help and ill wear it, cause i dont see any advantage to having one on, it doesnt stop me from crashing or make me any safer on the road, telling all the other drivers im learner aint gonna have them driving past tooting me good luck either. the l plate belongs under the number plate. or in the bin.

[McJim]

good luck dude, its a stupid law. i have been fined once for it, .

It also helps if you drive at speeds below 160kph rather than drawing attention to yourself! :Pokey: :rofl:

Sorry Lukelin250 I could not resist that!

[STORKEN]

STORKEN doesn't display L plate. Then I'm not limited to 75kmh.

[McJim]

STORKEN doesn't display L plate. Then I'm not limited to 75kmh.

My experience -
they'll fine you $400 + 25 Demerits for no L Plate.
they'll fine you $400 + 25 Demerits for riding over 100kph like an arsehole
They will ignore you if you ride sensibly at 100kph with an L plate on - I spent 6 months commuting up the Southern Motorway past HP every day at 100-110kph with an L plate on - closest I got to being pulled was a friendly wave from a bike cop.

My 2c from my exp.

e.g. ride like a twat be treated like a twat.

[sunhuntin]

My experience -
they'll fine you $400 + 25 Demerits for no L Plate.
they'll fine you $400 + 25 Demerits for riding over 100kph like an arsehole
They will ignore you if you ride sensibly at 100kph with an L plate on - I spent 6 months commuting up the Southern Motorway past HP every day at 100-110kph with an L plate on - closest I got to being pulled was a friendly wave from a bike cop.

My 2c from my exp.

e.g. ride like a twat be treated like a twat.

here here! i got followed by a cop about an hour south of chch, sitting at around 110k or so...i kept hearing sirens in my head when i spotted him miles off in my mirror, but held my speed and my line. he overtook, glanced at me, and continued on his merry way.

[LtKilgore]

My experience with(out) an L plate was far more fortunate. Had it diligently affixed to my number plate by cable ties for about a month. Went to a party in town (where I did not drink, some lines make too much sense) and left my bike in a quiet street. Returned to my bike about two hours later to discover nothing amiss with my bike but the gaping space where my L plate no longer was. Perhaps some pissed biker decided that L plates were for pussies and pulled it off. I thought fuck it, my ego getting the better of me and didn't replace it.

About two months after that, while I was still firmly on my learners, I was making my way around the south island and was pulled over for doing 121kms on the straights outside of Te Anau. My first experience with that wonderful moment when the white car nearing on the horizon does have the blue and orange decals all over. I thought I was fucked, proper fucked. On a learners, well over the speed limit, no L plate, middle of nowhere, wondering how long the walk was back to Christchurch and how I was going to pay the close to $750 (I think) fine. I was nicked with no excuses. The cop took my licence back to the car while I tried to fish my heart from my boots. He came back with a speeding fine for $120....and sent me on my way. I said thanks and got back on the road, slowly, thanking all the gods of two wheels for their benevolence. $120 bucks ain't nothing, esp. on my budget but far, far more agreeable than what I was liable for. There's just no picking.

Every cop is a human being with prejudice and opinion able to make a decision on the side of the road. I got lucky, maybe he liked bikes, maybe he thought I had a cute ass, maybe his wife succumbed to conjugal duties that morning, who'll ever know? Snapper got snapped (sic) by some zealous dick perhaps with a jones against bikers, no doubt I'll get bent over for something petty in times to come, but I'm doing okay so far. I hope Snapper has some better times with the fuzz in the future

Then there was the time I got let off for doing 69 kms in suburban Christchurch.....

[STORKEN]

STORKEN'S never been pulled up in 3 years riding.