07 ZX6R or 07CBR600RR ??

[justsomeguy]

The reviews are out...

"Let the competition compromise performance for rider-friendliness; the new ZX-6R was designed to take home trophies and set the quickest lap times, while being more exciting to ride than anything else in the middleweight sportbike category."
http://www.motorcycle-usa.com/Article_Page.aspx?ArticleID=4061&Page=1

"In the end, I am hard pressed to find a fault in the 2007 Honda CBR600RR. It is lighter, faster and looks better than any CBR to date. If it's able to back up the hype associated with it, then you could very well be looking at history in the making. The motor addresses the needs of street riders and should be more than competent for racers, the brakes and suspension are billed as racing quality, and it is, of course, a Honda."
http://www.motorcycle-usa.com/Article_Page.aspx?ArticleID=4090&Page=1

[hurricane_r]

well i dont know shit all about bikes 250cc, or 250cc's in genral but i like honda,
and 600RR looks sick,,, so

YEA GO 600RR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Smorg]

Dont know if I like the look of either of them....the CBR looks like a Fazer which I think is fugly and I dont like the teardrop headlights of the kawasaki, not that I can afford either of them 12K just is'nt enough for a new 600 maybe an '88 CBR1000

[Smorg]

wait weren't you banished or something?

[SixPackBack]

GSXR750. Size of a 600 with a whole lot more power. Noice bike:yes:

[justsomeguy]

GSXR750. Size of a 600 with a whole lot more power. Noice bike:yes:

Exactly... perfect blend. Should have one in a few months.:yes:

[bistard]

KAWASAKI All the way!!!

[Whynot]

Go teh R6.
It just looks the business :yes:

[sels1]

Took a 675 Daytona for a test last weekend - awesome machine. Recommend anyone buying in this class to test one before they make a purchase. I have cut and pasted this for your info.


TRIUMPH WINS MASTERBIKE - JEREZ 2006
Hot on the heels of winning the Supertest in March 2006, the Daytona 675 has just scooped the prestigious Masterbike 2006 award for the best Supersport bike.

Taking place annually, Masterbike is an objective multi magazine track test for sports bikes, organized by Motociclismo, the best selling bike magazine in Spain. The Masterbike test is one of the most important and influential magazine tests due to its impartiality and fairness.

The bikes used in the test were selected by Motociclismo directly from manufacturer/dealer stock and then run in by the magazine, rather than using bikes drawn from the manufacturers' own press fleets. This ensured that the bikes being tested were truly representative of those a customer would buy from a dealership.

The test is split into three categories - Supersport, Superbike and Maxisport, and magazines from 17 countries around the globe send their fastest riders to test each bike. Every rider does three flying laps on each bike, of which their fastest lap is recorded. The score for each bike is then based upon a combination of the average fastest lap time, the bike each rider scored their fastest lap time on and a comprehensive survey based on each bike.

The Daytona 675 came top in each of the scoring categories! Triumph achieved the fastest average lap time and were over 0.5 second faster than the other contenders. The majority of the riders did their fastest lap on the Daytona 675 and the bike got the highest survey average, scoring an impressive 8.5 out of ten.


The top 3 in the Supersport category were:

1st: Triumph Daytona 675 81 points
2nd: Yamaha YZF R6R 47 points
3rd: Suzuki GSXR 600 35 points

[bugjuice]

where's the option for the 04 636? bastards!!!

[ajturbo]

ah crap.. the bike i chose did finish in top 3.... but then again. who cares, as long as I am happy with what i brought?

[sels1]

The Triumph 675 Daytona...in case ya hadnt seen one....:yes:

[Fishy]

K6 GSX-R750 is the best bike to hit the shop floors in 2006.

[placidfemme]

so many choices... I picked the R6... cause thats my dream bike... but a very close second is the CBR600RR :)

[justsomeguy]

where's the option for the 04 636? bastards!!!

They ain't sold new anymore granpa.......

Everyone knows they're the bizzo - especially in blue.

-- However from my limited test riding experience the 03/04 636 is easily the most aggressive mid range sportsbike. It's pretty much similar to the 06 R6 in ergo's maybe just a tiny bit slower wayy up top.

[justsomeguy]

Took a 675 Daytona for a test last weekend - awesome machine. Recommend anyone buying in this class to test one before they make a purchase.

Nope sorry,
Took AMPS demo for a solid thrash down a certain dwive:love: and through a few other roads.....

It handles brilliantly BRILLIANTLY!!! - but the power delivery is a bit ..... boring...

It doesn't have the same kick or attitude as a 636 ....

I'd still pick the 750.. 600's just don't have that shove and thou's are too scary to redline everywhere....

[sels1]

- but the power delivery is a bit ..... boring...
It doesn't have the same kick or attitude as a 636 ....
..

It would seem the professional test riders managed a different result to you....:yes: :dodge:


The Daytona 675 came top in each of the scoring categories! Triumph achieved the fastest average lap time and were over 0.5 second faster than the other contenders.

[onearmedbandit]

Surely the 'feel' he got from it is more important than what is printed in a magazine.

Out of all of the above bikes I would go for the 06 750. As said before the weight, size etc of a 600 but mucho more power (and more importantly torque).

[Squeak the Rat]

If the extra few grand isn't a factor then it's [Edit: gsxr750] the logical choice....

[Nutter34]

Gix 750, for the rideability

[Coyote]

The CBR looks great in Black or White

What I like most about the new bikes is the older models will be cheaper :yeah:

[KLOWN]

I don't like the look of the 07 zxr but i'm in love :love: with the 636 what a beautiful machine

[sels1]

Surely the 'feel' he got from it is more important than what is printed in a magazine..

Yeah, its like shoes really....it dosent matter what is written about them, its how they fit you

[madandy]

Gixxer 7fiddy or the Trumpy 675 depending on your tastes and power requirements. The "...boring..." power delivery of the Triumph will be a result of a near perfect torque curve that lacks any spikes or flat spots/dips through the rpm.
IMHO a better looking bike than the new 600's.

[justsomeguy]

Gixxer 7fiddy or the Trumpy 675 depending on your tastes and power requirements. The "...boring..." power delivery of the Triumph will be a result of a near perfect torque curve that lacks any spikes or flat spots/dips through the rpm.
IMHO a better looking bike than the new 600's.

Yep, that's it.

Similar to a CBR954 - you're doing well over 200kmph but it feels like 80ks and you're getting sleepy....

Personally I prefer the "Where's the power, where's the power, where's the..... YEEHAAA here we go" delivery.......

[madandy]

I must concede that a linear torque curve is a little souless. With some engines you really do wonder where the power is for a few thousand rpm...then as you [justsomeguy] say you prefer, all hell brakes loose...personally I'd like it a little smoother than that but not so smooth as to rob the power delivery of some character, ah la Trumpy 675...hence my vote for the GSXR750 - that extra 75cc adds some torque and the engine has a steepening of the curve above cruising rpm to really make you feel alive

[Toaster]

The 750 is sweet man. good herbs for the bills.

[special_jimmy]

750 :done:
no contest

[Toast]

Normally I'd choose 6R without a doubt, but that new 600RR sounds unbelievable on paper. I still went 6R anyway...

[Fatjim]

Got to go the 750, as I need all the cubes I can get. The trumpy in a 750 might be a gas too.

[onearmedbandit]

The only 750 of it's type, and in our small poll the favoured bike compared to all the 600's. Considered by many testers to be the best sportbike ever, considered by many riders to be the perfect balance of power and weight, with a very nice handling package as a result. Will the 750 class make a return, or will the lack of a race series keep it where it is? Catch 22, no race series because of no bikes, no bikes because of no race series.

[Coyote]

Lets all get Gixxer 750s and get a race class going. They'll all be similar bikes so it'll be up to how good the rider is which should make for good racing

Of course I need the money

[Toast]

Catch 22, no race series because of no bikes,

Doesn't stop them making 800cc race bikes. Sure, they're prototypes, but if it's got 2 wheels and a manufacturer's sticker on it, people will relate it to the road bikes.

[sAsLEX]

Doesn't stop them making 800cc race bikes. Sure, they're prototypes, but if it's got 2 wheels and a manufacturer's sticker on it, people will relate it to the road bikes.

umm how long they been at 800..... not even on track (race ) yet (bar imor or whatever they are).

[SPman]

So many great bikes - all off which have performance that cant be used to the full on the road - if you want to stay semi - legal and intact, 99% of the time!
Charpentier reckoned the 07 CBR was faster than the 04 Ten Kate Superstock bikes, stock!

I'd like a 750, but I think I'll get an Enfield 500 and amble around the countryside.........

[justsomeguy]

For those who've ridden both - what are the differences in power delivery and handling between the K4/K5 750 and the current model.

The older bike had the perfect seat height and ergonomics for me, the current one seems so much smaller.

[SixPackBack]

I have ridden a K4 600 and a K6 750. The 600 had great handling that gave me the impression I was going faster on my work route than my K4 1000...I wasn't [speedo doesn't lie], was a hell of a lot of fun and felt heaps smaller and lighter than the thou . The 750 was easily a better handling bike [in fact the best up to date I have ridden] a LOT faster over my work route than either the 600 or thou, effortless and reassuring to ride fast with pin point accurate steering and felt even smaller than the 600.
When I came to sell my thou the 750 lost out on comfort only, to a K6 thou [this was important with my dodgy neck]. Penis measuring aside the average rider would be faster [easier] on the 750 than either a 600 or a 1000. I have heard tall people complain of a lack of room on the new 600/750.
Ride both Ujwal.

[lukelin250]

go honda wooooo hoooo

[Gremlin]

Kawasaki needs to make a bloody 750/800 or something. While the gixxer looks all good on paper (600 frame, with 750 engine) look at what you get for $1000 bucks ish more? The gixxer thou is better value for money imho.

most of those 600s are pretty small bikes, and tend to be more track focussed, meaning they are more peaky...

having to go for one... Kawasaki all the way... those bikes talk to ya...

[boomer]

look at what you get for $1000 bucks ish more? The gixxer thou is better value for money imho.

Money aside, most people can't ride the thou as fast as a seven fiddy



...those bikes talk to ya...

Didn't mummy love you?

Ducati or teh rsvr milli for me

[Fishy]

Money side, most people can't ride the thou as fast as a seven fiddy


Completely true mate!.

The K6 750 has the perfect balance with power/handling. To date I can say that the K6 750 would be the most confidence inspiring bike and best handling bike (in stock trim) I have ever ridden and I have ridden a LOT of different bikes.

The only reason I bought the 1000 was the extra torque as I ride 2up most of the time. If I was single and didn't have the missus on the back I would have bought the K6 750 and nothing else.

[ninjac]

My choice is ZX-6R for the mo. Looks dead sexy in pics,
but its what they look like in the flesh and how they feel that will make my decision.
No word yet on NZ prices.
07 ZX-6R $8999USD
07 ZX-10R $9999USD
For that extra $1000USD you get better value i.e steering damper.
600cc bikes are a little over priced because they are the biggest seller.

[MD]

1.Kawasaki needs to make a bloody 750/800 or something.
2. most of those 600s are pretty small bikes, and tend to be more track focussed, meaning they are more peaky...

3. having to go for one... Kawasaki all the way... those bikes talk to ya...
1. I hear ya brother. Sing it out loud (so Mr K hears us)
2. I wouldn't describe the 636 as peaky. The power just climbs from 8,000 onwards through the redline. What more can you ask for.
3. Sing it again bro.
Justsomeguy, It's been said so many times. Buy what YOU like. I've ridden all on your shopping list except the 750 -blame that on a disappointing lack of demos around. If it's road use you do then I'd think twice before touching the yammy. Now that's peaky. My lawnmower has more torque.
You want a bit of euro flair, or just something different, then the Trumpet has looks, style and performance and a unique engine format.
You mentioned the 636 is no longer available new. The local shop here has a brand new 2006 636 going for...$13,995. That's 14 grand for a new bike, 2 yr warranty blah blah. Hard to go passed that and justify the extra dosh required to get on the 750, 675 or 749. Now that I've restored mine to the euro spec with the extra 10hp up top, it's bloody fantastic.

[2_SL0]

It would seem the professional test riders managed a different result to you....:yes: :dodge:

LMFAO

Agreed

[James Deuce]

The current GSXR750 is a lot more comfortable for me than the previous couple of models, plus it is a hell of a lot easier to ride, and ride WELL, than a 600.

The 750 has a much broader spread of power than my R6 did, and has much less weight on the wrists.

[ninjac]

Now that I've restored mine to the euro spec with the extra 10hp up top, it's bloody fantastic.
I wondered what spec bikes we get. I thought we got the euro spec.
Is that where you just cut a wire to the ECU. Why don't the dealers give the bikes the full monty power mod when they arrive?
There is a large variation of 07 ZX-6R's. There is ones with the small orange lens rear indicators and there are some with the clear on the side type indicators (ER6 type). Also there are some with a black belly pan, I have even seen some pics of an orange one.

[sAsLEX]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZWmFZyGeUE

[madandy]

I prefer this one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jw64a_kS9-w&mode=related&search=

[Clivoris]

Of the options presented....It just has to be the 750. Everyone I know that owns one has a small willy, but cos they own a GSXR750, I hardly ever notice their dwarfism. Anything that has that much potential to make my life that easy, is on the top of my list of things that make life easier. Rumour has it that they go good too.

[MD]

I wondered what spec bikes we get. I thought we got the euro spec.
Is that where you just cut a wire to the ECU. Why don't the dealers give the bikes the full monty power mod when they arrive?


Lets not take this thread off track. We get the Nth American 636 version which has 10hp kneecapped from 13k to redline.- search for my thread I started about Oct 06 for the details.

[MD]

You mentioned the 636 is no longer available new. The local shop here has a brand new 2006 636 going for...$13,995. That's 14 grand for a new bike, 2 yr warranty blah blah. Hard to go passed that and justify the extra dosh required to get on the 750, 675 or 749. Now that I've restored mine to the euro spec with the extra 10hp up top, it's bloody fantastic.

EDIT- Bloody hell. Just seen in MCT $12,995 at Hamilton M/C for a new 2006 Kawasaki 636! That's value for money. Must be run-out time which means the new ZX6R must be about to land anyday.

[sAsLEX]

EDIT- Bloody hell. Just seen in MCT $12,995 at Hamilton M/C for a new 2006 Kawasaki 636! That's value for money. Must be run-out time which means the new ZX6R must be about to land anyday.

So is a 750 worth the extra lots of dosh now?

I doubt it.

[Grantasaurus]

I prefer this one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jw64a_kS9-w&mode=related&search=

Holy jesus.

Is that a 750 doing close to 300km/h?

Shit....

[Grantasaurus]

Omg me wants.

[onearmedbandit]

Holy jesus.

Is that a 750 doing close to 300km/h?

Shit....


That is Suzuki's own track in Hamamatsu, apparently the Suzuki test riders were hitting the redline in 6th gear cranked over. I'm hoping to call past the Suzuki factory on my next trip to Japan, wonder what the chances are of nicking a bike and doing a few laps? None, I'm guessing.

[Grantasaurus]

I want my own test track.
I'd definitely not be as slow as I am now if that were the case...
A private track has now been added to my powerball/ fuck off rich list.

It would be open for free to KBers of course :D

[Grantasaurus]

Oh, and yeah, it would be Kawasaki FTW

[onearmedbandit]

No, no it wouldn't. Going by our own poll it would be Suzuki.

[madandy]

.....OWNED :p

[Grantasaurus]

No, no it wouldn't. Going by our own poll it would be Suzuki.

For me if its a Japanese bike its a Kawa or nothing...

Hence why its Kawa FTW for me :P

So not owned

[onearmedbandit]

lol, all good. I'm a gixxer fanatic through and through, but that doesn't mean I don't appreciate the other models.

[madandy]

quick track video of the Trumpet:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=165yEUVQWZ0&mode=related&search=

[imdying]

For me if its a Japanese bike its a Kawa or nothing...

Hence why its Kawa FTW for me :P

So not owned

If a GPX 250 is enough to make you wave the green flag, dude, don't be narrow minded, try some other brands... there's a world of love just waiting for you :scooter:

[onearmedbandit]

Nothing there madandy.

[Grantasaurus]

Don't get me wrong... I'm not in love with Kawas because of my GPX 250, its a cheap learner bike, nothing more.

It's the ZX7 that had me in love with Kawas. They just shout "superbike" at me.
I've always loved the look of all the Kawasaki bikes. Dunno why.
That said, my appreciation of the Big K pales in comparison to how I cream myself over MVs and Guzzis.

[imdying]

It's the ZX7 that had me in love with Kawas. They just shout "superbike" at me.And 'fat chick' to the rest of us... coincidentally... the only ZX7 owner I know in person likes fat chicks... freaky eh? :lol:

[Gremlin]

It's the ZX7 that had me in love with Kawas. They just shout "superbike" at me.

And 'fat chick' to the rest of us... coincidentally... the only ZX7 owner I know in person likes fat chicks... freaky eh? :lol:
:bash: Leave Grantasaurus alone... its obvious he has impeccable taste. :Punk:

Yes... so she is a little on the heavy side, but at least she isn't wheelying out of corners, and she is all you really need in the country :love:

[Karma]

Big girls need love too... even TUBGIRLS!

[Indiana_Jones]

Daytona 675 for me :)

-Indy

[Grantasaurus]

Big girls need love too... even TUBGIRLS!


Fat girls need loving too.

But Tubgirl, oh god no, Tubgirl gets no love. No love at all.

[zjet]

I love the looks of the Trumpy, so much so i have got me one. I have yet to give it a BLAST but i,m sure i wouldn't be riding like you fast buggers.

[boomer]

You brought this one up from the depths didn't ya?

[R6_kid]

Daytona 675 seems like a mint bike, i love the curves on the ZX6R but love the aggresive lines on the R6... it's a hard ask to make a choice.

[jade]

K6 750 for me
what is the difference between the k6 and k7 ?

[SlowHand]

K1. It's in the owner's manual.

[mynameis]

K6 750 for me
what is the difference between the k6 and k7 ?

K6 is the 2006 year model and K7 is the 2007 one, hope that helps :D

[discotex]

K6 is the 2006 year model and K7 is the 2007 one, hope that helps :D

:done:

K8 will be a new model though.

[babyblade250rr]

i brought my six hundy based on looks as it appears that performace wise they were all pretty similiar in the 600 range, but i must say my six is damn quick once 0ver 10k/rmp it's ridiculous i really mean hold on for your life or you fly off!! saying that i believe it's a bike suited to the race track not so much on road and it really doesnt like revin low especially in jam packed traffic!

but you'll love whatever you end up with

good luck with it