Traffic cops suck cock

[jimbo600]

My missus drives the car to the local train stn. Later in the day I go for a run (the fitness kind) to pick the car up,and therefore I am in shorts and a t-shirt. On the way back home some fucked up ex MoT ernie traffic wanker pulls me for speeding 70 in a 50 (fair enough) but gives me a $55 hit for not having a license. The distance from the stn to home would be about 5km's. Now someone please explain to me why the $55 for no license is going to lower the road toll. I also got a lecture about my attitude as I refused to give them my occupation.

Traffic cops are an embarrasment to the rest of the police.

If there are any traffic cops on this forum don't ever come up and speak to me cos I haven't got anything good to say.

[Slim]

They brought in the "you must carry your licence with you when you're driving a vehicle" thing back when they introduced the new photo licences. They gave us 6 months leeway/getting-off-with-a-warning at the time.

Why are you complaining about this now?

[Hitcher]

I thought the penalty for failing to produce a licence was $500.

[Devil]

Without getting off my butt to find out, I think there was a fine of $50 for no licence, as long as you could prove who you were. If you couldnt do that I thought it was $400 (like standard breach of licence conditions....like not carrying it with you).

I might have stuff mixed up though...

[Devil]

Driver licence offences
All drivers must carry their licence with them when they drive on public roads. If you are found driving without your licence, you can be ticketed and face an infringement fee of $55.

It is important that new drivers develop driving skills in a safe environment - safe for themselves and others. As a result, new drivers face fines and demerit points if they break the conditions of their restricted and learner licences. Drivers breaking the conditions of their learner or restricted licence will face:

a $400 infringement fine
a 25 demerit point penalty.
The less serious driver licence offence penalties have a $1,000 maximum fine, while the more serious have a $4,500 maximum. The most serious licensing offence, of driving while disqualified or contrary to limited licence, carries a maximum fine for a third or subsequent offence of $6,000. The period of imprisonment for this offence is 2 years.

[Jackrat]

You normaly get given five days or something like that to front up at the local cop shop with your licence.
It was probably your crap attitude that you got done for.

[White trash]

My missus drives the car to the local train stn. Later in the day I go for a run (the fitness kind) to pick the car up,and therefore I am in shorts and a t-shirt. On the way back home some fucked up ex MoT ernie traffic wanker pulls me for speeding 70 in a 50 (fair enough) but gives me a $55 hit for not having a license. The distance from the stn to home would be about 5km's. Now someone please explain to me why the $55 for no license is going to lower the road toll. I also got a lecture about my attitude as I refused to give them my occupation.

Traffic cops are an embarrasment to the rest of the police.

If there are any traffic cops on this forum don't ever come up and speak to me cos I haven't got anything good to say.

Ha ha ha! That's a fairly broad statement there, buddy!

Guy must've had PMS cos your attitude seems just fine to me :innocent:

[Deano]

Bugger mate - thats one less 'life' for when riding the bike.

Tickets in your car are a waste - you should have saved it up for when you really need it mate.

Did you offer him the opportunity to suck your cock as your title suggests ? Maybe that is why he got so upset.

Other than that....what attitude ??

BTW - I haven't laughed so much in ages since joining this forum. :killingme

[jimbo600]

You normaly get given five days or something like that to front up at the local cop shop with your licence.
It was probably your crap attitude that you got done for.

The "crap attitude" was his response after I refused to give him my occupation, which under currrent legislation I do not have to give. He asked for my occupation after he already wrote up the ticket. Up until that point I was affable.

So exercising ones legislative right is deemed as having an attitude is it now days?

[750Y]

bad attitude? lol, break the law, get a fine AND A LECTURE inclusive of derogatory comments. beautiful... 8-( write a letter maybe you can get off it somehow.

[Deano]

So exercising ones legislative right is deemed as having an attitude is it now days?

Hell yes.

I raised that in an earlier thread. Knowledgable crims piss off the cops no end by sticking to their rights.

[jimbo600]

bad attitude? lol, break the law, get a fine AND A LECTURE inclusive of derogatory comments. beautiful... 8-( write a letter maybe you can get off it somehow.

I am. I'll send in the coin for offence No1 the speeding, but I will not pay the other. I'll write a letter explaining the mitigating circumstance.

Also what cheered me up was after this incident I went back home, had a shower, and returned to where the HP twats were, and parked down the road warning everyone approaching of the speed trap. Made me feel much better.

[Deano]

Also what cheered me up was after this incident I went back home, had a shower, and returned to where the HP twats were, and parked down the road warning everyone approaching of the speed trap. Made me feel much better.

Whoops, obstructing (subverting ?) the course of justice ???

Thats another $2000 fine thank you Mr Jimbo. :killingme

[Jackrat]

The "crap attitude" was his response after I refused to give him my occupation, which under currrent legislation I do not have to give. He asked for my occupation after he already wrote up the ticket. Up until that point I was affable.

So exercising ones legislative right is deemed as having an attitude is it now days?

You didn't say that before,Sorry I didn't read much past Traffic cops suck cock.
I have a very good friend who is a traffic cop as you call em,.
He most certainly does not suck cock and would be the first person to give you a hand if you needed it.
If what you say is true,and I don't doubt it, then sure take it up with somebody that can really help but please don't exspect not to get a rise with the statement TC's suck cock.

[Deano]

He most certainly does not suck cock and would be the first person to give you a hand if you needed it.


So he gives hand jobs instead ?? :Police: :innocent:

[Hoon]

I got done for not having my license on me once. Actually I got hauled down to the police station for a breath test and passed it so they slapped me with that instead.

Without trying to sound unsympathetic, you can hardly blame the cop for doing his job. Also if you wanted the cop to do you a favour and turn a blind eye, getting all angst and pissing him off is hardly the way to go about it!

The reason you need to have a license on you is pretty obvious, you could be some unlicensed overstayer on his way to run a red light and kill some old lady for all he knows.

I've had countless raw deals from cops and every single time it was because I broke the law and got caught. No one to blame but myself. I've learnt my lessons and now I play everything by the book and you know what?....life is so much easier!!

[Hoon]

ummm and I think you are required to supply your occupation...maybe someone more knowledgable can expand on that??

"If you are suspected of committing a crime, you must tell the police your name, address, date of birth and occupation."

[MikeL]

I can understand the requirement to carry your licence with you. It makes the work of law enforcement a lot easier. But I also remember the bitter opposition to this when it was suggested twenty or thirty years ago. It was viewed as an unnecessary infringment on our rights and liberty, and for this reason attempts to legislate for it failed on several occasions. Principles were invoked that nowadays may seem naive. However, it was pointed out at the time that it was the thin end of the wedge. Be prepared to lose more freedoms for the greater good...

[sAsLEX]

if you give a cop your name and crap does he not have a radio but a few feet away which he could veify your current license state and all that crap??? Spud?? And the photos are a waste of time, the three I have had all look completly different and it aint hard to get a fake ID anyways!

[Lou Girardin]

How did you know he was ex-MOT?
And I suppose some cops are gay, just like any other occupation.

[bikerboy]

Be prepared to lose more freedoms for the greater good...


Greater good MikeL????, most certainly for expediency.





That's....." makes it easier" for :Police: et al. :killingme

[speedpro]

Even with only one side of the story I can see a problem with an attitude. And it isn't neccessarily Mr Plod's either.

If you screw up and get caught - tough! Live with it. An attitude will not make it better.

[Skyryder]

Whoops, obstructing (subverting ?) the course of justice ???

Thats another $2000 fine thank you Mr Jimbo. :killingme

No it's not. I had a run in many years ago for warning cars by flashing my lights. A few K's up the road this cop pulls me over and proceeds to give me lecture on subverting the course of justice. He called it obstructing an officer in the course of his duties or something like that. The bottom line was that by flashing my lights I was preventing him from issuing speeding tickets. I sat patiently waiting for him to finish then asked where was the evidence that I had obstucted him in the course of his duties. Off course there was not any as he had no evidence of anyone speeding. I pointed out that I do this on a regular basis reguadless of whether I see a speed camera or not as this is a universial sighn to slow down. That pissed him off no end and just to put the boot in I reminded him that he was my servant and as a law abiding citizen not the other way around. With his leave I then drove off.

Skyryder

[spudchucka]

My missus drives the car to the local train stn. Later in the day I go for a run (the fitness kind) to pick the car up,and therefore I am in shorts and a t-shirt. On the way back home some fucked up ex MoT ernie traffic wanker pulls me for speeding 70 in a 50 (fair enough) but gives me a $55 hit for not having a license. The distance from the stn to home would be about 5km's. Now someone please explain to me why the $55 for no license is going to lower the road toll. I also got a lecture about my attitude as I refused to give them my occupation.

Traffic cops are an embarrasment to the rest of the police.

If there are any traffic cops on this forum don't ever come up and speak to me cos I haven't got anything good to say.
If you are planning on driving then make sure you have your licence on you.

If you weren't speeding you wouldn't have got pulled over in the first place.

If you weren't an ass then you probably wouldn't have gotten the ticket

[Skyryder]

ummm and I think you are required to supply your occupation...maybe someone more knowledgable can expand on that??

"If you are suspected of committing a crime, you must tell the police your name, address, date of birth and occupation."

As I understand the law you are only required to give your name and address. Nothing else. Your occupation or anything else is no buisness of the state.

Skyryder

[spudchucka]

Knowledgable crims piss off the cops no end by sticking to their rights.
Crap. They just enjoy it soooo much more when they bust them.

[spudchucka]

if you give a cop your name and crap does he not have a radio but a few feet away which he could veify your current license state and all that crap??? Spud?? And the photos are a waste of time, the three I have had all look completly different and it aint hard to get a fake ID anyways!
Without a licence or other form of photo ID the driver could give the name of anyone they know who is of a similar age, race etc who they know has a current licence. Thats why you have to carry your licence. Its an obligation you agree to when you apply for a licence.

[spudchucka]

As I understand the law you are only required to give your name and address. Nothing else. Your occupation or anything else is no buisness of the state.

Skyryder
Name, address & date of birth. If you don't want to give your occupation then make something up like maybe a gay escort or flag pole painter.

[Skyryder]

I work with a guy who keeps his licence with his log book. Like most drivers who work the road for a living we need our licences while working and it is very easy simply to forget to take it out of our log books when driving the car or the bike. This guy has memorized his licence number. While this has never happened to him he believes that giving the cop his name, address and licence number is no different than handing over his licence. The theory is interesting when you consider that when handing over the licence the cop looks at the photo to see if it matches the person. In some respects this is no different that giving the cop the licence number. The number is a means of identifying yourself. If the cop chooses not to look at the number via the Wanganui computer to check that you are who you say you are then that is akin to an officer not looking at the photo. Just not too sure myselfe how this would stack up in Court but this fellow is adamant that by knowing his licence number he can identify himself should he have to do so. He sees no difference in the visual check of a photo as against a visual check from a number.

Skyryder

[marty]

i have been dicked soooo many times by people not producing ID, and giving their brother/sister/cousin/random/stolen details that if i identified an offence other than a licence breach, and they didn't have their licence, then they'd get both. i know my number off by heart too, but i don't expect it to get me off a ticket for failing to produce on demand. it probably wouldn't, as the number is just that - i could read your name and number in your wallet at the supermarket/the taxi ID/the keys holding the licence that you found etc (if you could find someone matching your description), and spiel that off if i really wanted to. now THAT would piss you off. (the taxi one is a true story by the way).

[Kickaha]

If you are planning on driving then make sure you have your licence on you.

If you weren't speeding you wouldn't have got pulled over in the first place.

If you weren't an ass then you probably wouldn't have gotten the ticket


What he said, in simple words,you screwed up, but you'd rather blame some "some fucked up ex MoT ernie traffic wanker" than accept resposibilty for your own actions that lead to you being ticketed in the first place.

[jimbo600]

What he said, in simple words,you screwed up, but you'd rather blame some "some fucked up ex MoT ernie traffic wanker" than accept resposibilty for your own actions that lead to you being ticketed in the first place.

Read my thread properly. I accepted totally the reason for being pulled over. 70 in a 50. Too bad my fault. What I took exception to was the fact that I got lectured to for not providing information that I am not obliged to provide.

If the fucked up ex MoT ernie traffic wanker would have waited 5 minutes I could have walked home and produced my license.

I also get very pissed off with the whole traffic attitude these days. You ask a detective about trying to mount an operation to get a 'p' offender. Wont happen in June as there aint no cash.

[jimbo600]

You didn't say that before,Sorry I didn't read much past Traffic cops suck cock.
I have a very good friend who is a traffic cop as you call em,.
He most certainly does not suck cock and would be the first person to give you a hand if you needed it.
If what you say is true,and I don't doubt it, then sure take it up with somebody that can really help but please don't exspect not to get a rise with the statement TC's suck cock.

yeah alright fair enough. Just angry at the time I guess. Pass on my regards to your mate

[jimbo600]

ummm and I think you are required to supply your occupation...maybe someone more knowledgable can expand on that??

"If you are suspected of committing a crime, you must tell the police your name, address, date of birth and occupation."

Nope,

Bill of rights name address date of birth only.

[jimbo600]

If you are planning on driving then make sure you have your licence on you.

If you weren't speeding you wouldn't have got pulled over in the first place.

If you weren't an ass then you probably wouldn't have gotten the ticket

Oh fuckup spud.

He was wrote the ticket after I answered all polite like and quote "I have no reason to be speeding my fault I was just not paying attention" He also wrote me up before asking for my name dob occupation etc as he had to refer to comms to get the info on account that I didn't have my license on me at the time. Bottom line he and hos mate were being right wankers. Also the local video library got ripped off last month and they are still waiting for a visit from the local cops. Easier to police the roads I guess.

[scumdog]

Hell yes.

I raised that in an earlier thread. Knowledgable crims piss off the cops no end by sticking to their rights.

Eh? never been pissed off by a "knowledgable crim" but sometimes their 'knowledgable-ness" has cost them $400+ more than it needed to :blah: :killingme :killingme :killingme

[scumdog]

Read my thread properly. I accepted totally the reason for being pulled over. 70 in a 50. Too bad my fault. What I took exception to was the fact that I got lectured to for not providing information that I am not obliged to provide.

If the fucked up ex MoT ernie traffic wanker would have waited 5 minutes I could have walked home and produced my license.

I also get very pissed off with the whole traffic attitude these days. You ask a detective about trying to mount an operation to get a 'p' offender. Wont happen in June as there aint no cash.

Yeah, and if the cops got called to a crash 20km away you were still going to chase him up? - bad luck- harden up, the cop has probably heard that story 50 times before and is starting to get a bit cynical ( sorry if I come across that way too ) :Oops:

[scumdog]

I got done for not having my license on me once. Actually I got hauled down to the police station for a breath test and passed it so they slapped me with that instead.

Without trying to sound unsympathetic, you can hardly blame the cop for doing his job. Also if you wanted the cop to do you a favour and turn a blind eye, getting all angst and pissing him off is hardly the way to go about it!

The reason you need to have a license on you is pretty obvious, you could be some unlicensed overstayer on his way to run a red light and kill some old lady for all he knows.

I've had countless raw deals from cops and every single time it was because I broke the law and got caught. No one to blame but myself. I've learnt my lessons and now I play everything by the book and you know what?....life is so much easier!!

Hoon, you are so honest it is unreal, good on you, I wish everybody was that realistc and self examining, top marks to you. :Police:

[scumdog]

i have been dicked soooo many times by people not producing ID, and giving their brother/sister/cousin/random/stolen details that if i identified an offence other than a licence breach, and they didn't have their licence, then they'd get both. i know my number off by heart too, but i don't expect it to get me off a ticket for failing to produce on demand. it probably wouldn't, as the number is just that - i could read your name and number in your wallet at the supermarket/the taxi ID/the keys holding the licence that you found etc (if you could find someone matching your description), and spiel that off if i really wanted to. now THAT would piss you off. (the taxi one is a true story by the way).

Me too Marty,you would not believe the number of disqualified/suspended driver that say ' I left my licence at home but I know the number and it's xxxxxxxxxxx' - yeah right, I've just checked you out and if you come with me we'll check it out o.k.?- hah, that gets a different reaction. :(

[Kickaha]

On the way back home some fucked up ex MoT ernie traffic wanker pulls me for speeding 70 in a 50 (fair enough)

I did read your thread properly and perhaps my interpretation is different than what you intendeded the above is accepting responsibility for your actions


but gives me a $55 hit for not having a license. The distance from the stn to home would be about 5km's. Now someone please explain to me why the $55 for no license is going to lower the road toll.

That isn't,it seems as though you took exception to more than just being asked to provide information you weren't obliged to.

For fucks sake,why is it just about every time someone gets ticketed they have to have a bitch about it,if no one knows the road rules and what they can be penalised for, what the fuck are you even doing riding a bike or driving a car in the first place.

Not aiming this next bit specifically at you Jimbo
But if you get ticketed and its a fair cop pay up and shut up,if you don't think it's fair then put your money where you mouth and write in or contest it in court.

[Lou Girardin]

Gee, how did we get so many disq drivers all those years ago. No photo ID, a computer system that was down more often than working. Must have been good old intuition.

[the yoshie]

Jimbo unlucky mate but they are doing A big bust around the coast this weekend so don't forget ya license take ya bike next time

[sAsLEX]

heres a question for the :Police: ,over the years I have accumulated around three photo drivers license, now I can keep one in the wallet one in the bike and one in my c*r.

Now if I get pulled over, after leaving my wallet and in date license at home, I pull out my spare(probally out of date) to prove my identity etc.
Now this achieves what you have said is wanted from having a license, but as its out of date would a plod charge me as I still dont have a legal license on me, even though the old one proves that I hold one.

[jimbo600]

I did read your thread properly and perhaps my interpretation is different than what you intendeded the above is accepting responsibility for your actions



That isn't,it seems as though you took exception to more than just being asked to provide information you weren't obliged to.

For fucks sake,why is it just about every time someone gets ticketed they have to have a bitch about it,if no one knows the road rules and what they can be penalised for, what the fuck are you even doing riding a bike or driving a car in the first place.

Not aiming this next bit specifically at you Jimbo
But if you get ticketed and its a fair cop pay up and shut up,if you don't think it's fair then put your money where you mouth and write in or contest it in court.

I've done both. I shut up and out up on the speeding as I haven't got an issue with that. I fucked up plain and simple. What I am miffed about is the no license thing. I was plainly in running gear and I thought you could employ a little discretion these days. It was after this detail I refused to proffer my occupation what invited a curt oration from the HP about attitude. Hence I have written in about it.

I understand that HP have a job to do and that's fine. I also have plenty of respect for "real" cops especially on the resources they are limited too. But personnaly I cannot stand HP. I think that they are a blight on the force.

[El Dopa]

I also get very pissed off with the whole traffic attitude these days. You ask a detective about trying to mount an operation to get a 'p' offender. Wont happen in June as there aint no cash.

If there's no money, they obviously need to collect some revenue........ :Pokey:

I nearly got done for the 'not carrying a licence' about six months after I got here. I sorta knew you needed to carry it, but wasn't yet in the habit of doing so (its not a UK requirement). The guy let me off with a very mild warning, which I was extremely glad to recieve, as the car I was driving could have charitably been described as a deathtrap, and had been made more so by an incident involving a wet road, tyres with no tread and a tree about a week before. If he'd been in a worse mood, he could probably have stuck a grands worth of car-related fines on me, which there was no way I could pay at the time. I made sure that p.o.s. got hauled away and crushed when I finally got myself sorted out here.

So thanks to whoever that was who pulled me over for cutting me an enormous (and undeserved) break.

[Gixxer 4 ever]

Whoops, obstructing (subverting ?) the course of justice ???

Thats another $2000 fine thank you Mr Jimbo. :killingme No preventing a crime happening. If you don't get caught then it is not a crime Aye :banana:

[geoffm]

Whoops, obstructing (subverting ?) the course of justice ???
Thats another $2000 fine thank you Mr Jimbo. :killingme
No not at all, just helping reduce the road toll and helping the police out by making people slow down. After all, it is all about safety, not revenue, so there is nothing for them to complain about...

[Mongoose]

Why is it, apart from the cost, an expectation that a cop, HP or who ever will cut some one some slack, surely it is a bonus if you are cut some slack, like we all know that there is an instant fine waiting for not carrying a license, be suprised when you get it? Naa, be nicely suprised when you dont get it

[spudchucka]

Oh fuckup spud.
Cheers, fuck you very much.

[spudchucka]

heres a question for the :Police: ,over the years I have accumulated around three photo drivers license, now I can keep one in the wallet one in the bike and one in my c*r.

Now if I get pulled over, after leaving my wallet and in date license at home, I pull out my spare(probally out of date) to prove my identity etc.
Now this achieves what you have said is wanted from having a license, but as its out of date would a plod charge me as I still dont have a legal license on me, even though the old one proves that I hold one.
When you get a replacement licence the old one is no longer valid and is meant to be returned to the LTSA, they own the licence not you. If you produce an old, out of date licence you still have not produced a current and appropriate drivers licence. The cop will take the out of date one off you and send it to the LTSA. You could still get a ticket but that would depend on your attitude, Jimbo.

[spudchucka]

I've done both. I shut up and out up on the speeding as I haven't got an issue with that. I fucked up plain and simple. What I am miffed about is the no license thing. I was plainly in running gear and I thought you could employ a little discretion these days. It was after this detail I refused to proffer my occupation what invited a curt oration from the HP about attitude. Hence I have written in about it.

I understand that HP have a job to do and that's fine. I also have plenty of respect for "real" cops especially on the resources they are limited too. But personnaly I cannot stand HP. I think that they are a blight on the force.
I'm assuming that you managed to carry a set of car keys with you when you went running, could you not also have carried a drivers licence?

Sounds like the cop baited you and you bit like a barracuda. Why get all huffy over giving a minor detail like your occupation? You may well say , "get fucked I don't have to tell you that". Ill guarantee the cop response will be "right than sunshine, I don't have to give you this ticket but in your case I'm going to make an exception".

[jimbo600]

I'm assuming that you managed to carry a set of car keys with you when you went running, could you not also have carried a drivers licence?

Sounds like the cop baited you and you bit like a barracuda. Why get all huffy over giving a minor detail like your occupation? You may well say , "get fucked I don't have to tell you that". Ill guarantee the cop response will be "right than sunshine, I don't have to give you this ticket but in your case I'm going to make an exception".

I was cordial initially. He already wrote up offence No1 and No2 before asking for my details. It was after I noticed this I bit like a Barracuda. So it they're going to be a cunt to me I'll be a cunt back.

[jimbo600]

I'm assuming that you managed to carry a set of car keys with you when you went running, could you not also have carried a drivers licence?

Sounds like the cop baited you and you bit like a barracuda. Why get all huffy over giving a minor detail like your occupation? You may well say , "get fucked I don't have to tell you that". Ill guarantee the cop response will be "right than sunshine, I don't have to give you this ticket but in your case I'm going to make an exception".

Keys are hidden on the car. I don't carry them with me.

[Deano]

Crap. They just enjoy it soooo much more when they bust them.

Maybe not you Spud, but I know of instances where the cop has been very pissed off when the person 'doesn't cooperate' by sticking to their rights. Jimbo even verified this in this thread by not giving his occupation and being told he has an attitude. Another example was someone I know refusing to get out of the vehicle (when he didn't have to) and the cop threatened to smash the window and drag him out.

[Deano]

For fucks sake,why is it just about every time someone gets ticketed they have to have a bitch about it,if no one knows the road rules and what they can be penalised for, what the fuck are you even doing riding a bike or driving a car in the first place.

That would seem to apply to half the population, either ignorance of road rules or just don't care and don't abide by them e.g following distances , failing to indicate, therefore they shouldn't be on the road ? I would love to see the day.....it would certainly ease congestion.

[Deano]

No preventing a crime happening. If you don't get caught then it is not a crime Aye :banana:


No not at all, just helping reduce the road toll and helping the police out by making people slow down. After all, it is all about safety, not revenue, so there is nothing for them to complain about...


No it's not. I had a run in many years ago for warning cars by flashing my lights. A few K's up the road this cop pulls me over and proceeds to give me lecture on subverting the course of justice. He called it obstructing an officer in the course of his duties or something like that. The bottom line was that by flashing my lights I was preventing him from issuing speeding tickets. I sat patiently waiting for him to finish then asked where was the evidence that I had obstucted him in the course of his duties. Off course there was not any as he had no evidence of anyone speeding. I pointed out that I do this on a regular basis reguadless of whether I see a speed camera or not as this is a universial sighn to slow down. That pissed him off no end and just to put the boot in I reminded him that he was my servant and as a law abiding citizen not the other way around. With his leave I then drove off.

Skyryder


It was more of a joke than a serious statement guys.

[spudchucka]

So it they're going to be a cunt to me I'll be a cunt back.
This particular incident aside, where exactly do you think that will get you?? Fair enough though if you want to play that game but if you piss a cop off enough he isn't going to forget you in a hurry and you may find yourself the subject of further attention.

[spudchucka]

[QUOTE=Kickaha]
For fucks sake,why is it just about every time someone gets ticketed they have to have a bitch about it,if no one knows the road rules and what they can be penalised for, what the fuck are you even doing riding a bike or driving a car in the first place.
QUOTE]

That would seem to apply to half the population, either ignorance of road rules or just don't care and don't abide by them e.g following distances , failing to indicate, therefore they shouldn't be on the road ? I would love to see the day.....it would certainly ease congestion.
Like I said before it is people deciding which laws should apply to them and wanting law enforcement on their terms.

[spudchucka]

Maybe not you Spud, but I know of instances where the cop has been very pissed off when the person 'doesn't cooperate' by sticking to their rights. Jimbo even verified this in this thread by not giving his occupation and being told he has an attitude. Another example was someone I know refusing to get out of the vehicle (when he didn't have to) and the cop threatened to smash the window and drag him out.
I know what you are saying but in all honesty it would just make any decent cop more determined to nail the prick, just means you have to work a little harder. There are definitely some bright crims out there but on the whole they are crims because they are THICK.

As far as smashing the car window goes, it depends on the circumstances and you haven't explained them well enough to comment. I've never had to do it myself but I know of plenty of incidents where car windows have been smashed, people sprayed and hauled out on their arse.

[Lou Girardin]

Obviously, the Police don't know the truly clever crims.
And where is it written that ordinary citizens have to grovel to any cop that's having a bad day. It is they, the Police, who are required to treat people in a civil manner.
It seems that this cop baited jimbo and then penalised him when he bit back. (According to Spud)
Well, keep acting like this guys and your public approval, while not good now, will be positively subterranean.
I think the Police are forgeting that they're now in contact with far more people than ever before due to the 'take no prisoners' approach and if they treat them all like crims they shouldn't complain about being loathed.
You get back what you give.

[FROSTY]

ok Im missing summat here. a person breaks the law and gets a ticket for it.
I know darn well should I break the law I could get caught and the penalties for it.
If the cop concerned is being a good guy he'll go light on me if not well Shit my mistake not his. :calm:

[Mongoose]

ok Im missing summat here. a person breaks the law and gets a ticket for it.
I know darn well should I break the law I could get caught and the penalties for it.
If the cop concerned is being a good guy he'll go light on me if not well Shit my mistake not his. :calm:

Easy for you to say when you have no ride!! :killingme

[jimbo600]

This particular incident aside, where exactly do you think that will get you?? Fair enough though if you want to play that game but if you piss a cop off enough he isn't going to forget you in a hurry and you may find yourself the subject of further attention.

So might he. That's what the PCA is for.

Two years ago I got stopped on my bike outside of Greytown. Cop gave me a ticket. I didn't like it, but he was professional and acted in a manner that one would expect from a public servant. Gave me ticket I went on my way. No bad language from me, no pious lecture from him. I had an issue about where he was stopping people (within 250m of a speed change) but I took that up with PIB. People need to know that the police are not infallable and are bound by rules of conduct like everyone else. If they abuse their power or act unprofessionally and then take issue with the response and get vindictive, they should not be in the uniform.

[jimbo600]

Obviously, the Police don't know the truly clever crims.
And where is it written that ordinary citizens have to grovel to any cop that's having a bad day. It is they, the Police, who are required to treat people in a civil manner.
It seems that this cop baited jimbo and then penalised him when he bit back. (According to Spud)
Well, keep acting like this guys and your public approval, while not good now, will be positively subterranean.
I think the Police are forgeting that they're now in contact with far more people than ever before due to the 'take no prisoners' approach and if they treat them all like crims they shouldn't complain about being loathed.
You get back what you give.

Ask Deano about the cop who pulled him on Sat AM. Now that guy should instruct at the college. Made me want to rush back and amend the title to this thread. Shame about the numbnuts Inspector that fronted later though. Ruperts eh? Same in every force be in Military or Police.

[jimbo600]

Well it's Sunday and it's sunny and I'm over Fridays little incident so I'm back to my usual merry self. So lets all have a laugh.

Monica Lewinsky was looking at herself in a mirror.

Her frustration over her lack of ability to lose weight was depressing her.
In an act of desperation, she decided to call on God for help.

"God...if you take away my love handles, I'll devote my life to you," she
prayed.

And just like that, her ears fell off.

[Hooks]

Well it's Sunday and it's sunny and I'm over Fridays little incident so I'm back to my usual merry self. So lets all have a laugh.

Monica Lewinsky was looking at herself in a mirror.

Her frustration over her lack of ability to lose weight was depressing her.
In an act of desperation, she decided to call on God for help.

"God...if you take away my love handles, I'll devote my life to you," she
prayed.

And just like that, her ears fell off.

:killingme That's absolute piss cutter mate !!! ...

[Kickaha]

where is it written that ordinary citizens have to grovel to any cop that's having a bad day. It is they, the Police, who are required to treat people in a civil manner.

You get back what you give.

I don't think anyone here has said you have to grovel to a cop,and if the cops have to treat the public in a civil manner you'd expect the public to treat them the same way,but of course it's always the nasty copper who starts the trouble isn't it?.

[Lou Girardin]

I don't think anyone here has said you have to grovel to a cop,and if the cops have to treat the public in a civil manner you'd expect the public to treat them the same way,but of course it's always the nasty copper who starts the trouble isn't it?.

Don't you think members of a professional Police force should be above reacting in kind?
Besides, nothing pisses off a driver turned feral more than a strictly 'by the book' approach.

[marty]

there is no legislative 'requirement' for cops to treat people in a civil manner. maybe there is an expectation, but if a cop pulled some great unwashed dude off your missus/kid/mum etc after having assaulted or infringed their rights in some way, would you expect them to treat that great unwashed in a civil way? i doubt it.

you're contradicting yourself here lou - you can't be civil - and be by the book - in the same breath. it just doesn't work. if i stop you for speeding on your scooter 500 metres from your house, and you didn't have your licence on you, if i was by the book i'd write you up for everything, if i was civil i might let you off the licence breach, however if i was civil, and by the book, you'd still be fucked off, especially as i gave you the ticket and said 'have a nice day' with a :)

and grovelling? no cop that i know likes being grovelled to, if anything that will get you maximum wanker points, associated with maximum $$$$$

[Mongoose]

and grovelling? no cop that i know likes being grovelled to, if anything that will get you maximum wanker points, associated with maximum $$$$$[/QUOTE]

Perhaps, maybe people should try basic honesty, Ya did it wrong put your hand up and admit it, it might just score a few browny points while you are at it.

[spudchucka]

Obviously, the Police don't know the truly clever crims.
Obviously?? How do you figure that? I suppose back in your days as a revenue collecting MOT you spent a lot of time busting sophisticated organised crime rings so you would be highly qualified to make such a comment, wouldn't you?


It is they, the Police, who are required to treat people in a civil manner.
I agree with you but joe public has to be aware that the use of police discretion is directly linked to the attitude of the driver. Police have to remain professional in the face of all sorts of abuse, its part of the job but tell me why they should give someone a break when they are being a complete twat?


It seems that this cop baited jimbo and then penalised him when he bit back. (According to Spud)
Thats one possibility put forward but how would I know, I wasn't there?


I think the Police are forgeting that they're now in contact with far more people than ever before due to the 'take no prisoners' approach and if they treat them all like crims they shouldn't complain about being loathed.
Loathed? Perhaps by a few social misfits like yourself Lou. You know as well as I do that public surveys and stats are misleading and don't show anything near what the actual reality is. The truth is that the majority of the public believe the police do a good job. While I agree that heavy handed traffic enforcement does alienate the public, I believe that the majority of NZ's are smart enough to see beyond this. Most people don't wear blinkers like your good self.


You get back what you give
Oh so true in oh soooooo many ways!

[rodgerd]

Also the local video library got ripped off last month and they are still waiting for a visit from the local cops. Easier to police the roads I guess.

Stolen videos won't kill anyone. Some dangerous cunt doing 70 in a 50 can.

[sAsLEX]

Stolen videos won't kill anyone. Some dangerous cunt doing 70 in a 50 can.

but down there they hide in the bushes on the motorway and get the 111 in 100 types!

[jimbo600]

Stolen videos won't kill anyone. Some dangerous cunt doing 70 in a 50 can.

Yup and we'll still tolerate P dealers plying their product on minors too eh? Cos that goes on too. Your attitude my friend is exactly why public support for police is deteriorating. Lets ignore Jonny public trying to make a living and pick on Jonny pay easy motorist.

As for dangerous cunt. Don't recall seeing you there at the time cockmunch so you don't know what the fuck you're on about. You don't even know what bit of road it was on.

[Jackrat]

Cockmunch :killingme :lol: :lol:
Steady on Jimbo,your almost down to my level.
I got'a remember that one :first:

[rettun]

Ahhh good old police threads :)

Its pretty much luck of the draw every time you come across an officer of the law. Almost everytime ive encountered one of them its pretty much been, young male he MUST be a trouble maker. Sure when I was in the wrong i've taken my tickets and payed my dues. The one nice Lady officer that pulled me over and ticketd me for passing @ 128(huge straight road and wankers slowing/speeding up etc) I saw her pulln out and knew she was comming for me so pulled over, she ticketed me and all was done and I actually felt bad for doin it :confused2 but yeah, every other time its been shut up, stay in your car, I dont have time to answer your questions, I dont care if its your birthday your car just blew up and its 5 past 10pm(yea true story). Just a few short weeks before I get my full and can wave it in Mr plods face after 10pm.

But yea, don't have all cops for the actions of a few its like judgin moari's or asians because you've met a few wanky ones..

Dont speed dramatically on main roads or in public places and you'll be pretty right, and if you get caught accpet it. :shifty:

[greenhorn]

As for dangerous cunt. Don't recall seeing you there at the time cockmunch so you don't know what the fuck you're on about. You don't even know what bit of road it was on.[/QUOTE]

Cockmunch: Someone eating KFC? :spudwhat:

[jimbo600]

As for dangerous cunt. Don't recall seeing you there at the time cockmunch so you don't know what the fuck you're on about. You don't even know what bit of road it was on.

Cockmunch: Someone eating KFC? :spudwhat:[/QUOTE]

Ha good one. :first:

[Firefight]

Cockmunch,, Nice one Jimbo, :first: I thought I had heard them all, my Dad taught me most of mine, hes a tough old Scot x navy CPO,man could he string them together,, hes 75, I rang him and ran it by him, he was very impressed, request permisson to use it from time to time.Always good to learn a new term.

Firefight :crazy:

[jimbo600]

Cockmunch,, Nice one Jimbo, :first: I thought I had heard them all, my Dad taught me most of mine, hes a tough old Scot x navy CPO,man could he string them together,, hes 75, I rang him and ran it by him, he was very impressed, request permisson to use it from time to time.Always good to learn a new term.

Firefight :crazy:

Your ol' man sounds hard case mate. My dad was x RN too. Feel free to use the term as often as you like.

[Kickaha]

Yup and we'll still tolerate P dealers plying their product on minors too eh? Cos that goes on too.

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Does it? I'm shocked that we would tolerate something like that in our society,I hope you informed the nice cop that stopped you where he could find them so he could go and arrest the dealers :)