bmw f800

[MD]

After writing all this in the sportsbike thread I realised I should give it it's own little thread all to itself.
Yippee!!. Got the demo F800St for the long weekend. Don't you love shops that do that, give you a $19,000 machine to play on for a 5 day weekend.
I did the Gladstone hill area yesterday and must say this bike is growing on me fast. Bridgestone tyres are my pet hate and this baby has BT020 (touring) tyres.
Did the really tight blue mountain loop and this is where the bike shined. Turned with an ease and speed no 187kg bike has any right too. As I headed up a new-ish R1 follows me. Oh bugger I think, I'm not out to push a demo bike hard and now I have a boy racer on my tail with no doubt hopes of embarrassing me. Well bugger me after a few tight bends and he's disappeared from my mirrors. Next came the Takas that were soaked so it was a crawl and the wet confirmed my distrust of all things Bridgestone. Inexcusably slippery in the wet. My 636 with Pirellis would have run rings around me.
Anyway, back on to dry roads and time to enjoy what I liked about this 85hp puppy.
DISPLAY. My pet hate No. 2 about bikes - they should all have a gear indicator and the F800 dash has a beaut. So easy to read and lots of fun stuff to pass the time. Air temp! Cool, leave Tawa 15c , around Whitby 16c the Hutt drops to 10.5c and colder up the summit. Now you have proof when you 'feel' cold.
Other useful stuff like ave. fuel use etc.. And a fuel guage that seemed damn accurate. At a certain point when the fuel light comes on another display appears counting down how many kms you have left. I'm told by another BMW owner that this is very accurate to 'get off and push time'.
I am seriously thinking of changing to one of these bikes. On average country backroads it's as fast as I would usually ride a sportsbike, simple as that. If full race pace comes into play, sure then it's lack of ponies and not so sticky rubber will be the limiting factor- eventually and not by much. But the test was sweeping around bends I usually take at about 160kph and doing the same speed on the BMW without any drama.
FUEL. I did 290 km yesterday of thrashing it and still haven't had to re-fill the tank. It is down to 18km left but it was a fast day of thrashing it. Let's not mention the average speeds, those who ride with me sometimes have an idea. Lets just say there was no way I was going for an economy run. So to get 300kms out of 16 litres- FAST riding up and down hills is bloody fantastic.
I now believe one test claim that at 90kph it will travel 470km on a tank.
LEAN. This thing leans brilliantly and the suspension does a top job. I kept thinking how fast this would be over hills if I had Pirrellis - that I personally get more confidence out off. This bike is just as much fun on hills as the sportsbikes I've owned. The twin motor provides instant go when it's time to overtake.
ABS- well not on my Christmas want list but have to reluctantly say it works a treat. Weird feeling when the foot pedal starts pumping your foot up and down as it releases-enguages-releases... Does seem to stop a bike very quickly and works safely while cranked over. (Bugger it, I wanted to rubbish this as technology for technologies sake)
These observations are all my personal taste so who cares what others think but I like the look of the bike, I like the comfort without giving away any ability to ride bloody fast. No I wouldn't even bother trying it on a track day- 85hp is just not going to cut the mustard. I like the odd ball aspects like tank under seat, belt drive. I like the luxury of full info display, factory built in heated grips that work a treat! A CENTRE STAND, shit are they handy or what and this one does not touch down in corners. I'd attach some pics but all I have are from other official sites - see mcnews.com.au for a full test and lots of pics if interested.
Oh and Speedking jumped on it and immediately takes off through the gears on one wheel. Then rides up his long curving driveway in a standup wheelie. Stoppies are not going to happen with ABS but we all know a certain world champion stuntsmaster who uses a F800.
To me it's a well put together package but I still think BMW are asking too much but I'm weakening. Another tank full ride and I might be convinced.

[paturoa]

....... Don't you love shops that do that, give you a $19,000 machine to play on for a 5 day weekend.....

......... and time to enjoy what I liked about this 85hp puppy.......
.........and the F800 dash has a beaut......
.........I am seriously thinking of changing to one of these bikes.....
........ is bloody fantastic......
..........This thing leans brilliantly and the suspension does a top job. ...
......... Another tank full ride and I might be convinced.....

yeah, really generous of them bike shops - lol

[White trash]

If it's good enough for Chris Pfiefer, it's good enough for anyone.

[MattRSK]

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[MattRSK]

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[White trash]

The cool one. You stick that panier wearing wannabe hussy where the sun don't shine. :D

[Bonez]

Thank you for the writeup. Sounds like a hoot to ride. Seems to have a good fuel range, centrestand (I personnally prefer bikes with them so it's added to my new bikes to consider list) and fun factor if I read your writeup correctly.

[Highlander]

If it's good enough for Chris Pfiefer, it's good enough for anyone.

Being given one by the manufacturer and paid to tour the world demonstrating it may bias his opinion some what don't you think?
The telling question is would he still have one if it was HIS dollar (Euro?) he was spending.

[MD]

Thank you for the writeup. Sounds like a hoot to ride. Seems to have a good fuel range, centrestand (I personnally prefer bikes with them so it's added to my new bikes to consider list) and fun factor if I read your writeup correctly.

Good point. I wrote pages and missed the key message- This bike screams FUN

[Coyote]

If it's good enough for Chris Pfiefer, it's good enough for anyone.
When I saw him ride it I instantly wanted one

Does that make me a corporate puppet?

[Highlander]

When I saw him ride it I instantly wanted one

Does that make me a corporate puppet?

Only if they donate one to your cause and you dont then pass it on to me.

[Coyote]

Only if they donate one to your cause and you dont then pass it on to me.
I have a cause?

[Highlander]

I have a cause?

Or like me are you a lost cause?

I read somewhere about the Patron Saint of Lost Causes, just can't remember who he was.

Found it. St Jude

[Coyote]

Or like me are you a lost cause?

I read somewhere about the Patron Saint of Lost Causes, just can't remember who he was.

Found it. St Jude
I don't believe I even had a cause to loose

[Zapf]

sounds like I might have to try one out.

[MD]

My fetish for shiny metal objects got me again. The shop simply made me an offer I couldn't refuse.
Funny how so many people are constantly looking to move up the horse power ladder and here I am moving down ...and enjoying it. :whocares: CBR1000RR 150 odd hp , ZX6R 120 hp and now 85 hp. Shit might end up on a scooter if I'm not careful!:scooter:
Having a blast riding this thing. Even with tyres I don't like and don't trust I can get my knee down. Wheelies at first looked unlikely but today I nailed a few ripper standups in 1st and 2nd. The speeds much slower than most would wheelie at, but again that's part of this bike's appeal- being different. Quite fun though because the balance point has the bike bloody near vertical - well it seems high anyway from the cockpit.

[Titanium]

The cool one. You stick that panier wearing wannabe hussy where the sun don't shine. :D

No way can you see her panies when she is sitting like that!

[Titanium]

Ditch the stock headers and can, put on an Akrapovic system ........:yes:

Oh yeah ... and some air filters from evoluzione ......

The CanBus will do the rest.

[Clivoris]

My fetish for shiny metal objects got me again. The shop simply made me an offer I couldn't refuse.
Funny how so many people are constantly looking to move up the horse power ladder and here I am moving down ...and enjoying it. :whocares: CBR1000RR 150 odd hp , ZX6R 120 hp and now 85 hp. Shit might end up on a scooter if I'm not careful!:scooter:
Having a blast riding this thing. Even with tyres I don't like and don't trust I can get my knee down. Wheelies at first looked unlikely but today I nailed a few ripper standups in 1st and 2nd. The speeds much slower than most would wheelie at, but again that's part of this bike's appeal- being different. Quite fun though because the balance point has the bike bloody near vertical - well it seems high anyway from the cockpit.

Well shit. That's out of left field man. Sounds like you really like it. What mods do you have planned?:yes:

[MD]

Well shit. That's out of left field man. Sounds like you really like it. What mods do you have planned?:yes:

It took me by surprise too. Even weirder is that I would rate the ZX6R as the best bike I've owned, I was lovin that bike, yet I traded it in?
No mods planned. I can't think of anything that needs to be changed (apart from tyres). I like the look and sound of that fat muffler on the beemer.
Never owned a BMW so I will give it a try. In the end if I fall out of love with it- move on. Unlike a woman you can dump a bike without any dramas and bitchin.

[Hitcher]

Having seen it in the flesh, your new ride looks particularly funky, Mark. Red is good!

[limbimtimwim]

Ba hahaha!!

Can't wait to get passed by you on a corner going up the hill.

[skelstar]

Pretty cool looking bike mate. Look forward to seeing it in the flesh.

[erik]

Nice bike :niceone:

[Clivoris]

Ba hahaha!!

Can't wait to get passed by you on a corner going up the hill.

On the back wheel, one handed, on the inside of a hairpin while snogging a French chick. Like that Chris Pfeifer geezer.:yes:

[limbimtimwim]

On the back wheel, one handed, on the inside of a hairpin while snogging a French chick. Like that Chris Pfeifer geezer.:yes:Yeah I know. :(

[F5 Dave]

um, I think he's German.:mellow:

[Clivoris]

Yeah, but the French chicks are hotter.

[What?]

I took one for a 1.5 hour spin yesterday. Awesome bike, no doubt about it.
Going to buy a lotto ticket today.

[MD]

I took one for a 1.5 hour spin yesterday. Awesome bike, no doubt about it.
Going to buy a lotto ticket today.
Good to hear you liked it. I've clocked up 4000kms now and have no regrets about buying it. Just back from a long weekend Wgtn- Gissy-Opotiki-Rotovegas-wgtn. The F800 was a blast. Great comfort with true sportsbike handling. The belt drive sure keeps the rear end clean and those beemer heated grips work a treat (Desert road was chilly so gave me a chance to try them).
I'll have to get some wheelie pics taken. This is the bees knees for near vertical, totally balanced long standups. Got a heap of rippers in over the weekend. Just sitting behind vehicles watching the wide eyes staring out the back as you follow them at a constant speed, just floating the front wheel above their boot!

[skelstar]

Just sitting behind vehicles watching the wide eyes staring out the back as you follow them at a constant speed, just floating the front wheel above their boot!
Now that I would like to see...preferably from a bike, not inside the car :shit:

[Beemer]

My fetish for shiny metal objects got me again. The shop simply made me an offer I couldn't refuse.

Ah, so you're the bastard responsible for the local branch of the BMWOR missing out on a test ride of said F800 this weekend! We had a test ride lined up for Sunday and my husband was dead keen to give it a try, but we got an email this morning to say it had been sold so we have to settle for the R1200R instead.

Suffice to say, said husband is not impressed! Better not show yourself around our way unless you're prepared to hand over the keys!

[MD]

Not guilty Beemer. I almost bought their demo but after I had thrashed it for 700kms on a 'test ride' I decided to take the new one on the showroom. The shop wasn't keen to part with the demo anyway- for obvious reasons, they need it to sell more bikes. I heard the demo has been sold now though.

[Beemer]

Not guilty Beemer. I almost bought their demo but after I had thrashed it for 700kms on a 'test ride' I decided to take the new one on the showroom. The shop wasn't keen to part with the demo anyway- for obvious reasons, they need it to sell more bikes. I heard the demo has been sold now though.

Bit silly of them to sell it before bringing it up here to show it off in front of an interested audience then - we had to book appointment times! Hope you enjoy it, wonder who got the demo then?

[et al]

Nice one MD. If I had seen this post BEFORE seeing you and your new toy in action I would have thought you had joined the Coronation Street watching Pipe and Slippers brigade! But NO - having seen the shagged rear tyre and the way you punt that thing around I can see that the cliche "less is more" is working for you. Have to say that is a very interesting looking bike, I had seen pictures of it and was not overly impressed however it looks way better in the flesh. I like the clean and tidy lines, especially of the engine and I reckon that has the thickest coat of engine enamel I have ever seen, which will keep it looking mint forever.

[Blackbird]

Nice write-up and it pretty much mirrors the comments by the biker journos from Oz and NZ who attended the official Australasian launch in Coromandel. I had a Beemer (K100 RS) before the Blackbird and have a great affection for the make. I think you've proved that Beemers can foot it with anything else in real world conditions. They will still be running in a couple of decades too.

Well done on your choice:rockon:

[MD]

Well I've clocked up 7000km in 6 weeks and absolutely lovin this machine.
Now that I've changed both tyres to Conti Sport Attacks, today was the first 'hard' ride to sample the tyres. What was excellent handling just got better.
The motors loosened up nicely now and seems to enjoy revs. Very un-BMW like this bike in so many ways. Funny how less seems more?. It's never going to beat any 600/4s or 1000 V2s in a straight line. But I actually enjoy the power surge (cut me some slack here Ok). Its such fun to thrash through twisties because of the ease it flips side to side and just inspires confidence when ridden hard and given plenty of corner speed.
There's some really clever engineering on this machine and quality of build.
Scorpian are bringing out a cool stubby muffler soon.

[Clivoris]

Meh. Only 7000km? Family and work holding you back eh?

[MD]

Good review in latest AMCN vol 56 No. 16. Like them I've found a false neutral pops up sometimes from 4th to 5th. Another good point they picked up is how a parallel twin pulls smoother from low revs than V twins. All the way home fro Manfeild I stayed in top most of the time. It's a pleasure to doodle through townships at 45kph in top and just smoothly pull away. My old VTR would shake, rattle and kick up stink if you tried that.

Now I've got a track day under it's belt and the F800S was a hoot. Handling was superb. Some mags have to mention that there's no adjustment up front. Atleast one test qualified that, saying that they wouldn't change anything if they could. I couldn't unsettle the front wheel no matter what I threw at it. The F800 felt so planted at full lean despite Manfeild's crap seal & ruts. The back would hop and skip a bit coming out of the tightest turns- probably just my lack of interest to play around with the rear settings, or to bother checking tyre pressures (just sounds like work to me)

Sure there were a few times when I missed the acceleration rush on the straights, but the high corner speeds it thrives on made up for that. Don't get me wrong, it's surprisingly quick off the mark and out of turns. Just don't take on feather weight chicks on RSV 1000s in a drag.
Seemed odd being so comfortable while on the track! Maybe that's why I got in so many sessions in one day and for the first time actually enjoyed the whole ride home.

Apparently BMW are bringing out an offroad version - that motor will be fantastic for that. Also a R model naked. Errr? Isn't mine a near naked already? Maybe it will wear a g-string.
Looking forward to getting it on Taupo now. And a replacement muffler.
Oh and let's not forget the 20,000km service intervals. Nil, zip, none, zero cleaning or adjustment to the belt drive - which also means no grease & shit thrown over the rear wheel. Then there's the 385km I got on a tank taking 15.7L to refill. That's 24 km/l or 68 mpg.

[F5 Dave]

Think I might have to ride one of these.

But I'm not 50 yet! & the dreadful BM switchgear
Any thoughts about 2up?

[limbimtimwim]

Oh and let's not forget the 20,000km service intervals.Not even an oil change? Does it have a dry clutch and separate oil for the gearbox?

[SPman]

The more I hear about the 800, the more interested I am in trying one. A bit like a modern TRX 850 (another under rated bike).
You don't need wads of horsepower to have fun on the road (although it certainly is nice on occasions) and more people are coming to realise that, which means, we might get a better selection of very competent, balanced, sports (as opposed to race) bikes, that work well in all road conditions.

[F5 Dave]

Yeah? I kinda thought the TRX was overrated. 850 twin that couldn't get out of it's own way & had dreadful off-idle carburetion thrown in. Even Jim decided (probably subconsciously) that his deserved a violent death.

[scracha]

modern TRX 850 (another under rated bike).

Take a TRX 850, cross it with a TDM850 to give longer travel suspension, luggage and a bigger screen. Double the price...voiala. A BMW F800.

[MD]

Not even an oil change? Does it have a dry clutch and separate oil for the gearbox?
That's right. Just checked the manual to be sure. First service (and oil/filter change) is at 10,000km then every 20,000 after that. Engine & gear box all one unit.
Manual says it's a dry sump but when I rode in the rain the motor got wet.. well I thought that was funny.

F5 Dave- hey Im not 50 (yet) and there's not a single grey hair on my head. Edit- and it's got the perfect seat/grab rail for passengers.
The switchgear is brilliant, not odd. It becomes second nature to use, much easier than traditional switchgear.
There are a few demos around at the mo. The UK Sports & Leisure M/C mag has a current test as well "handling is simply superb" and other flowery stuff.
Built tough. I bounced off the tyre wall at Manfeild entering the pits. A slow hit but still they are usually the ones that do heaps of damage.I expected some unpleasant broken fairing, indicators and such but simply loosened the bent back indicator and re-fitted it. Turps took the black rubber off the paint without a mark. I couldn't believe there were no cracks or bent/broken plastic?:Punk:

[skelstar]

hey Im not 50 (yet) and there's not a single grey hair on my head.

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:shit:

[MD]

Quick Skels, quick. I was waiting for a response.
You must have a vast library of pictures just waiting for the right moment to come along.
My claim still stands though. No Grecian 2000 here mate.

[skelstar]

I lined the cue-ball photo from the day I met you. I knew I'd have to use it one day.

Now if only Jim2 would post next, that would be pretty sweet.

NAH...images.google.com is your friend too apparently.

[James Deuce]

Yeah? I kinda thought the TRX was overrated. 850 twin that couldn't get out of it's own way & had dreadful off-idle carburetion thrown in. Even Jim decided (probably subconsciously) that his deserved a violent death.

Scurrilous rubbish!

Scandalous baseless accusations!

"dreadful off-idle carburettion" - easily fixed by adjusting the throttle cables correctly. The TRX has Throttle Position Sensors that read every increment of throttle movement so you have to make sure that twisting the grip = cable movement = equals slides openeing. Any slack will have you lurching all over the place.

The only things "wrong" with the TRX are the std fork springs and the 2 candlepower gas lantern they call a headlight.

I'd STILL have that bike if I hadn't killed it. More fun than a sack full of monkeys.

You take that back you two stroke luddite! Yamagamma indeed!

[skelstar]

Now if only Jim2 would post next, that would be pretty sweet.
Too easy.

10fc

[James Deuce]

Too easy.

10fc

Shutup! You ride the motorcycling equivalent of a Honda Civic.

Shut up, SHUT UP!

[F5 Dave]

[does quick search] Hey you still can get Grecian 2000! There's a blast from the 80s.

[hmmm. . .does another search] Although it appears Claytons has indeed gone off the market. Damn, what am I going to mix with Gin now?

[F5 Dave]

. . . More fun than a sack full of monkeys.. .

I can't begin to think how that would be fun, I'd think that would be deeply distressing for the poor little primates.:nono:

[Drew]

Shutup! You ride the motorcycling equivalent of a Honda Civic.

Shut up, SHUT UP!

Quite the "tanty" thrower aint ya Jim. Does it take you long to pick up your toys once they've all gone out the cot?

[James Deuce]

Quite the "tanty" thrower aint ya Jim. Does it take you long to pick up your toys once they've all gone out the cot?

At least I don't have an earwig moustache.

[Drew]

At least I don't have an earwig moustache.
I'm unfamiliar with this term, what's an earwig moustache?

[miSTa]

The more I see and read about the F800 the more I want to give one a go...


Good write ups MD.

[MD]

I'm unfamiliar with this term, what's an earwig moustache?
I'm just impressed you Guys can spell moustache - I had to look it up to check you had it right!
And why would an insect have a moustache?
And stop taking my thread off topic.
And why does .... no..no.. lets not ask that in public.

[James Deuce]

It's a moustache that looks like an earwig crawling on your top lip!

[Drew]

Thanks for clarifying that for me, I'd shave it off, but your opinion means squat to me:yes:

[scarva]

I bought one Nov 06 - 7,500km on clock already.
Very clever & enjoyable machine.
Yehaa!

[limbimtimwim]

False neutrals a problem?

[MD]

False neutrals a problem?
Wash your mouth out!
This is where BMW ownership has it's benefits- after sales support. BMW have realised early in the piece that some owners are finding the gear change a bit too clunky and/or some are getting false neutrals in one of the top gears. I have come across a few falsies (on the bike, not tits) into 5th I think ? BMW are distributing two modifications worldwide and have added these mods to new bikes made after Feb 07. One is a replacement front cog to drive the belt. This one has a rubber cush built in to reduce any vibes - I have not noticed any backlash/vibes from the belt drive myself, in fact it feels much quieter and smoother than any chain drive by a long shot.
The second is a voluntary mod at the owners choice swapping a washer in the clutch assembly that improves gear changes. BMW state the trade off is a louder clunk engaging 1st from neutral "a noise similar to some Japanese bikes" quote BMW germany (ha ha that made me laugh, Germans with a sense of humour?)
The F800 owners forum has a couple of owners who have recently received these mods and they confirm gear selection is better and it's fixed the odd falsie.
I've spoken with BMW NZ and they confirmed they have been informed of these mods and will contact owners when the parts arrive. All covered under warranty.

Here's another great story. A UK owner took his F800 in for it's 6000 mile service happy as Larry about the condition of his bike. The shop ring him later to say..THEY are not happy with the condition of the enamel paint on the engine, so they have ordered an entire new motor for his bike! I've done 9000km now and the enamel is like new. No other owners on the forum have found any probs with the paint.

[limbimtimwim]

Wash your mouth out!
This is where BMW ownership has it's benefits- Dave Anderson's gave me a nice rubber Suzuki key ring. It doesn't scratch the paint.

[MD]

Dave Anderson's gave me a nice rubber Suzuki key ring. It doesn't scratch the paint.
BMW give you a solid gold diamond studded key ring. Spot the difference ..:bleh: :lol:

[Fatjim]

They bloody should do for the price you paid.

[Viking Steven Poulson]

Every bike has or will I rephrase that alot have false neautrils even my R80RT has a case of them my answer is take a more positive change with your foot and then problem is solved dont change like a girl then your problem is solved years of riding has proven this

[kiwicam]

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chris pfeiffer seems pretty happy with his bmw

[limbimtimwim]

Every bike has or will I rephrase that alot have false neautrils even my R80RT has a case of them my answer is take a more positive change with your foot and then problem is solved dont change like a girl then your problem is solved years of riding has proven thisYou should try a modern jappa 4. :) Whenever I ride something other than GSXR I always forget to use the gearbox like a man and fuck up changes. Mind you, a GSXR is a girls bike.

I wonder if a K1200(n) has a good gearbox... Someone give me theirs to try out...

[F5 Dave]

Every bike has or will I rephrase that alot have false neautrils even my R80RT has a case of them my answer is take a more positive change with your foot and then problem is solved dont change like a girl then your problem is solved years of riding has proven this
Actually forget the Jap multi, you should try hooking up with Ivan. I'm sure you two would get on great.

Saves wasting all that punctuation I guess.

[MD]

Back in post 63 I mentioned that BMW were distributing improved parts free of charge. These modifications became standard on F800 made after Feb 07.
I had these mods fitted today - rubber cushed front pulley for the belt drive and 2 washers in the clutch asssembly. Only had a short taste tonight but...
Fan-bloody-tastic. What was already a great bike to ride just got better. I've always found the parallel twin is smoother than a V but now it's gone up another notch...or three. At slow speeds at low revs there was a bit of transmission backlash before. These parts have totally cured that and now it's a dream to tackle things like a tight roundabout at idle, no jerkiness, just silky smooth movement and pulls away effortlessly from anywhere without any vibration. I tried to see if it would stall going around roundabouts down to 1500 revs and nothing but clean pick up all the way. It has given the bike a much wider spread of useable revs. Went up Ngauranga gorge in top in traffic at 70kph (almost under 2000 revs) and not a sign of any shake, rattle or vibe.
Makes riding in commuter traffic a pleasure. Wasted on me since I only ride to work about once a week.
The washers have also made the gear changes easier i.e. a lighter jab does the job and it feels more secure when it goes in now. To any owners out there not sure - check with your shop and get the mods done, you wont regret it.
I've also added a centrestand and fitted an Akrapovic can. The can removed 4kg and seems to add a little more go juice.
What else? Clocked up 12,000kms and the finish is spotless, like new.
I think I have run out of extras to fit??? Nothing to do now but ride for 20,000km between services, ha ha.
Oh yeah, see BMW throw in free pussy with every bike.

[merv]

Pleased someone loves his bike - cripes you're sounding like a VFR owner.

[Sanx]

Oh yeah, see BMW throw in free pussy with every bike.

You sick sick man. That's definitely in the 'too young' category.

[Lucy]

[does quick search] Hey you still can get Grecian 2000! There's a blast from the 80s.

[hmmm. . .does another search] Although it appears Claytons has indeed gone off the market. Damn, what am I going to mix with Gin now?

I've got a bottle (unopened - why would anyone open a bottle of Clayton's). Found it in a supermarket in Aus a couple or five years ago. When I say I found it - doesn't mean I was LOOKING for it! But when I saw it I had to have it.

[What?]

I've got a bottle (unopened - why would anyone open a bottle of Clayton's). Found it in a supermarket in Aus a couple or five years ago. When I say I found it - doesn't mean I was LOOKING for it! But when I saw it I had to have it.

Damn, that is one of the saddest stories I have ever heard.

[miSTa]

MD, you're obviously very happy with your bike but is there anything you don't like about it? Also have you a passenger yet and if so how have they found seating? I haven't seen too much written on passenger accomodation though I would imagine it to be typical BMW - perfect.

[MD]

MD... is there anything you don't like about it? Also have you a passenger yet and if so how have they found seating?
Just never ask a F800 owner to top up their water OK. BMW's Designers were high on some bad shit that day.
Pillions love it. My daughters have always enjoyed rides as Kids up and down our street but one ride on this bike and they loved it. Being Kids they don't know anything about bikes, all they know is they feel so much better and safer on the 800. So now they ask for rides more often and want to go further a field. In fact yesterday I took my 10 y.o. for her longest ride into the city and around the bays. It has really good grab rails and peg positions. Roomy comfy seat with that raised hump between the rider and passenger that works well.
I am sounding biased aren't I. There are times, not many, when I wish for heaps of horse power but only for a moment. As it is, it is an ideal balance between it's handling and it's power. If you gave it another 20 horses or more then the suspension would need a full overall - in which case, why the hell wouldn't you just buy a 130, 150, or 170+ hp sportsbike in the first place if that's what you want, what you really really want...
I must get some knee down pictures to show just how well this thing corners.

[miSTa]

If all you've got to complain about is topping up the water (presumably the water bottle not the radiator) then all is sweet.

I know what you mean about the power, going from the ZZR1100 to the BMW GS I missed the power for a while, now I couldn't give a toss.

Good to hear the pillion perch is good. It's a must for me.

Time to book a test ride for Saturday.

[miSTa]

Well I managed a test ride today on a F800S and really have to echo everything MD has said about them. Fantastic bike, absolutey confidence inspiring. Handling is brilliant, no fighting with the bars to get the thing to turn; it just does it. Love the sound in the higher revs, love the looks and yes it has character.

I believe I want one.

[98tls]

Well hurry up then............summers coming.............

[miSTa]

Got another test ride sorted for next weekend with Mrs S. If she's happy and I can justify $19k on a bike then why not.

[98tls]

Got another test ride sorted for next weekend with Mrs S. If she's happy and I can justify $19k on a bike then why not. :Punk: Good stuff mate.............just promise to do the dishes for..........a few years.......

[Highlander]

Well hurry up then............summers coming.............

Still last summer isn't it?
Helen is arranging longer summers for us too now.

Good on you Mr S. must add one of these babys to my wish list.

[wysper]

Is there a version that doesnt have the fairing?
A fully naked one? More like the stunt bike CP rides?
Or has an owner modded it like that that anyone knows of?

[Eric]

Tell us how the missus liked touring on the back. Am intrested to find out with the chance of touring 2-up in the S-Island.

[miSTa]

Is there a version that doesnt have the fairing?
A fully naked one? More like the stunt bike CP rides?
Or has an owner modded it like that that anyone knows of?
There are rumours of a F800R, nothing confirmed.


Tell us how the missus liked touring on the back. Am intrested to find out with the chance of touring 2-up in the S-Island.
As far as the S is concerned I wouldn't really want to do 600km+ days two up, 300km days would be ok as long as it's no more than 2-3 days in a row. Solo wouldn't be a problem. Having said that I very very nearly bought one.

[MD]

There are rumours of a F800R, nothing confirmed.


As far as the S is concerned I wouldn't really want to do 600km+ days two up, 300km days would be ok as long as it's no more than 2-3 days in a row. Solo wouldn't be a problem. Having said that I very very nearly bought one.
Mr S, you very very nearly made the right choice. I can't imagine any bike would be fun for a passenger doing 600km+ in a day. Yuck, why would you want too? If you are going that distance, buy your own bike and really enjoy yourself!
From the owners forum the word is BMW have confirmed that there will NOT be a R model.
Some said earlier that the F800 was overpriced. I thought the same at the time ,but now consider it a good deal when you look at other similar cc bikes; Guzzi 750 Breva twin $22k & GSXR 750 $18.9k

[MD]

Sorry to add yet another bit of useless BMW information.
This whole BMW ownership thing is starting to amuse me. What company keeps sending out free upgrades? First I got the enhanced belt pulley and the option to have some clutch washers changed.
Today the shop tell me there were some dud spark plugs fitted about the time my bike was made, so can I bring it in for free replacements! Get out of here? My bike is running flawlessly, but hey new plugs for nothing. That's the sort of price I like.
I've just got to convince them that my tyres are faulty because the tread is falling off somehow.

[Clivoris]

Sorry to add yet another bit of useless BMW information.
This whole BMW ownership thing is starting to amuse me. What company keeps sending out free upgrades? First I got the enhanced belt pulley and the option to have some clutch washers changed.
Today the shop tell me there were some dud spark plugs fitted about the time my bike was made, so can I bring it in for free replacements! Get out of here? My bike is running flawlessly, but hey new plugs for nothing. That's the sort of price I like.
I've just got to convince them that my tyres are faulty because the tread is falling off somehow.

That's just sad man. If it was a relationship I'd be complaining about being smothered. Next thing you know they'll be expecting a commitment. Aprilia on the other hand manage to treat me with absolute disdain and disrespect. Just like I'd expect to be treated by a supermodel. Treat me mean and keep me keen I 'spose. Mother*&%#$&'s. Do you think the pricks would answer e-mails?
N.B. I have no problem at all with the local dealership. I bet they have some interesting things to say about dealing with Aprilia though.

[Zapf]

That's just sad man. If it was a relationship I'd be complaining about being smothered. Next thing you know they'll be expecting a commitment. Aprilia on the other hand manage to treat me with absolute disdain and disrespect. Just like I'd expect to be treated by a supermodel. Treat me mean and keep me keen I 'spose. Mother*&%#$&'s. Do you think the pricks would answer e-mails?
N.B. I have no problem at all with the local dealership. I bet they have some interesting things to say about dealing with Aprilia though.

I was about the consider a Tuono, u know sort of the same thing as a superduke. But guess now they are off the list after hearing about your experiences.

[Clivoris]

I was about the consider a Tuono, u know sort of the same thing as a superduke. But guess now they are off the list after hearing about your experiences.

I guess that my bitterness shows, but like I said our local Ape dealership provide good service. I have had major problems getting some parts but this was not through the Ape dealer. I would have a chat with your local dealership to see what they reckon. Apparently there are two seperate companies doing bike supply and parts back-up. For non-insurance parts I would purchase via the internet. This is a good place http://www.apriliaforum.com/
Still, wish those pricks at Aprilia had replied to my e-mail, especially after going through their extensive registration process. Maybe computer glitch but I have heard similar stories on the above Aprilia Forum.

[Zapf]

I guess that my bitterness shows

Slightly off topic, but how do you find your bike compare with a superduke? Have you ridden one?

[Clivoris]

Slightly off topic, but how do you find your bike compare with a superduke? Have you ridden one?

Never ridden one but knew a couple of experienced geezers in Hamilton who had them. Apart from the tank size and long-range comfort, I have heard nothing but good things. I would certainly be having a long hard look at one if I was in the market. I've seen some second-hand bargains. The Tuono is a great bike and a keeper, but if I was getting another I would probably spend the extra for a Factory. I have had to spend bucks improving the power delivery and throttle response, with the bonus of a nice exhaust tone. I am also intending to get my forks fettled to see if that reduces the vagueness of the front end. My sense is that you would expect to spend less modding a ThuperDuke.

[Zapf]

My sense is that you would expect to spend less modding a ThuperDuke.

Yes my thoughts exactly. Not much modding I am hoping for. The SD being much cheaper than a factory as well. Factory's are like 28k are they not?

[Clivoris]

Yes my thoughts exactly. Not much modding I am hoping for. The SD being much cheaper than a factory as well. Factory's are like 28k are they not?

I wouldn't be in the new market for a bike. I haven't seen the latest model Tuono around second hand but have seen a pre 05 factory for around $16k. Pretty good buying I reckon, but the ThuperDukes are a similar price. Tough decision for someone.

[Zapf]

I wouldn't be in the new market for a bike. I haven't seen the latest model Tuono around second hand but have seen a pre 05 factory for around $16k. Pretty good buying I reckon, but the ThuperDukes are a similar price. Tough decision for someone.

are u doing the GC this year on the Tuono then?

[Sensei]

I guess that my bitterness shows, but like I said our local Ape dealership provide good service. I have had major problems getting some parts but this was not through the Ape dealer. I would have a chat with your local dealership to see what they reckon. Apparently there are two seperate companies doing bike supply and parts back-up. For non-insurance parts I would purchase via the internet. This is a good place http://www.apriliaforum.com/
Still, wish those pricks at Aprilia had replied to my e-mail, especially after going through their extensive registration process. Maybe computer glitch but I have heard similar stories on the above Aprilia Forum.

Hey Clivoris , just wondering what trouble / parts you have needed & why .

[Clivoris]

Around a year ago I lost the front end on a round-about due to a combination of cold temperatures, too much lean for the conditions and dodgy Dunlops. Might have been a bit of petroleum residue involved too. I am still waiting for a belly-pan panel and the footpeg they sent was a new, less aggressive pattern that gets slippery in the wet. They can't apparently get the original pattern so I am waiting for a footpeg that matches the pattern that they have sent. At least then I'll have both feet sliding off in the wet.

[Clivoris]

are u doing the GC this year on the Tuono then?

GC?.......

[skelstar]

Grand Challenge.

[MD]

Oiii! :Offtopic: You guys go get a room. Next we will have pages about the Grand Chancellor

[Clivoris]

Oiii! :Offtopic: You guys go get a room. Next we will have pages about the Grand Chancellor

Fairy muff. Lovely bikes those BMW F800s'.

[Zapf]

Just to add some info re the ABS option on the F800

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ABS- yes I have noticed the ABS can cut in when you don't want it entering a bend as you go over a bump. It only effects my rear brake. Some owners claim both wheels can lose braking until the ABS reactivates the brakes. I find this hard to believe . I did a track day and couldn't get the front ABS to activate so they are dreaming if they trigger it regularly on dry roads. You have to be in full panic braking to trigger the front!
It's no big deal once I know it can happen on rare occasions. It's not that the brakes refuse to work, they cut out for a split second that can feel too long when you are at race pace going into a tight bend. If buying one again for hard riding or track days, I would go without ABS. But for purely road riding the ABS works. If you ride in the wet then the ABS is a MUST, it's amazing how well it works.

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[BMW]

Good point. I wrote pages and missed the key message- This bike screams FUN


A mate has one. SHE loves it.
She is the first person in NZ to do over 10,000km and now has a recognized BMW warranty race pipe. Gives the bike more noise and even more horse power to have more fun! Now it is close to what power I am running and the bike is lighter! Very quick.

[MD]

A mate has one. SHE loves it.
She is the first person in NZ to do over 10,000km and now has a recognized BMW warranty race pipe.

:confused:

I'm pleased she likes it but I don't understand what you mean by "the first to do 10,000km"?

I've done 15,000km. Do I get a prize? Maybe BMW ar giving out prizes for any of their bikes that don't self destruct after 10,000km? I could do with a new toaster with matching steak knives.
I've got the BMW supplied Akrapovic pipe as well.
And please, no more reports of woman riding F800s.

[skelstar]

I've heard its a chicks bike ;)

[merv]

I've heard its a chicks bike ;)

Is that what you're getting if only you could sell your "boys" bike?

I must say I always like to hear how pleased MD is with his bike coz its much nicer than hearing people diss bikes.

[Das Bruce]

To whoever mentioned the naked roadster had been cancelled, have you heard anything about the GS style F800?

[What?]

To whoever mentioned the naked roadster had been cancelled, have you heard anything about the GS style F800?

Officially there is no F800GS - unofficially, keep your eyes on the Intermott show (October??)

[Highlander]

MD I see your profile now lists you are riding a Triumph 675. Did you get board with the BMW or what?

[Hitcher]

Did you get board with the BMW or what?

He had to pay for his own accommodation costs. BMW is not that generous. He may have however become bored with it?

[MD]

MD I see your profile now lists you are riding a Triumph 675. Did you get board with the BMW or what?

As Merv has noted. I refuse to pay for bike rego. Always sell a new bike by it's use by date - 11 months 29 days max. I cut it fine with the black 636, rego expired the day we did the deal/changeover. Had me sweating that did.

Actually...this happened..
http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=30414&page=2

Which is far better than 'shit happened'

Departing with the F800 was a tough call and not easy. It was and is a great bike with lots of special features and performance punching way above it's weight.
But in the end the sportbike devil inside came out to play.