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Skyryder
25th December 2006, 18:26
Came across this. Anyone know the amount that this check is worth and would it be legal. I can think of some uses for this sort of thing.

Skyryder

MattRSK
25th December 2006, 18:56
2,354,1542.36 :p

vtec
25th December 2006, 19:11
From what I can work out.

0.002 is 0.2 of a cent.

e to the power of 'i' times pi... well I'm pretty sure 'i' is a variable, and seeing as he hasn't specified the value of this variable, then you can't work out what that part of the equation is worth.

The last part is:
sum of 1/(2 to the power of n) where n is the all of the numbers from 1 to infinity... Effectively what this means is that as n approaches infinite, this part of the equation approaches 1... so I suppose that this could be seen as worth $1.

So if the bank teller can work it out, then the cheque is worth at least $1.002... nice little earner that one.

rainman
25th December 2006, 19:27
OK, 0.002 is 2 tenths of a cent, e ^ i pi is minus one (http://www.math.toronto.edu/mathnet/questionCorner/epii.html) (i is the square root of minus one in this case, base of all the complex numbers), and the series converges on 1 (1/2 + 1/4 + 1/8 + 1/16...), which cancels out the -1, leaving the final value to be 2 tenths of a cent.

Also known as 3/5 of feck all, of course.

rainman
25th December 2006, 19:32
Damn, did I just publicly out myself as a maths geek? :shit:

I got it all from Google, honest (http://www.google.co.nz/search?hl=en&lr=&q=+e+to+the+i+pi&nocalc=1)!

Fub@r
25th December 2006, 19:34
I got it all from Google, honest (http://www.google.co.nz/search?hl=en&lr=&q=+e+to+the+i+pi&nocalc=1)!

Likely cover story......... :yes:

Maha
25th December 2006, 19:52
Is the question to ''check'' the cheque?.....(thread title) should be checked...:done:

MotoGirl
25th December 2006, 19:53
I'd call you all 'maths geeks' lol - I wouldn't even attempt such a calculation :dodge:

NighthawkNZ
25th December 2006, 19:54
about 2.50 - tax of course

Shadows
25th December 2006, 20:56
Is the question to ''check'' the cheque?.....(thread title) should be checked...:done:

It is (mis)spelled as check in the USA where it originated. So technically it is a "check", innit?

Hitcher
25th December 2006, 21:46
Anyone know the amount that this check is worth and would it be legal.

The BDOTGNZA regurgitated their turkey. Stuffing. And mince pies.

Lou Girardin
26th December 2006, 06:06
A CHEQUE isn't legal tender.
The recipient can tell Mr Smartarse to stick his CHEQUE.

Skyryder
26th December 2006, 07:39
A CHEQUE isn't legal tender.
The recipient can tell Mr Smartarse to stick his CHEQUE.

Had a feeling along those lines myself but just was not too sure.

Pity, be a great way to pay speeding fines. Not much good to me though, I don't write geeky speak.

Skyryder.

boostin
26th December 2006, 08:48
I assume that this is in reply to this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fp6ccIiZp1Y

http://youtube.com/watch?v=Gp0HyxQv97Q

Skyryder
26th December 2006, 09:03
The BDOTGNZA regurgitated their turkey. Stuffing. And mince pies.

I've always been meaning to ask what BDOTGNZA means. Now seems a good time to ask.

Skyryder

avgas
26th December 2006, 09:25
Oh now thats good. Just to help out a bit...
that 'i' is for the imaginary axis amount
basically the check is worthless for more that 0.2 cents.....however if your really cunning you could get an extra 1-2 dollars. The formula allows it if you define the sum.

Laava
26th December 2006, 12:31
I've always been meaning to ask what BDOTGNZA means. Now seems a good time to ask.

Skyryder

Boxing Day Organisation To Get New Zealand Acronyms

Grantasaurus
26th December 2006, 12:41
Damn, did I just publicly out myself as a maths geek? :shit:

I got it all from Google, honest (http://www.google.co.nz/search?hl=en&lr=&q=+e+to+the+i+pi&nocalc=1)!

You sure did. At least that means I'm not the only geek on here haha

Swoop
26th December 2006, 16:40
Damn, did I just publicly out myself as a maths geek? :shit:
PUT THE POCKET PROTECTOR DOWN!!!!

NOW BACK AWAY FROM THE CALCULATOR!!!


Damn those "weapons of math instruction"...

Mom
28th December 2006, 11:43
I've always been meaning to ask what BDOTGNZA means. Now seems a good time to ask.

Skyryder

Have a read of this and all will become clear..

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=40520

Ixion
28th December 2006, 11:45
They don't give green stamps, though, do they? Huh ? Huh ? Nope, no green stamps.

Hitcher
1st January 2007, 15:27
Green stamps? Hardly seems worthwhile when the Brave Defenders have malt whisky, beer, pizza and gorrgeous women...

jrandom
1st January 2007, 16:14
Green stamps? Hardly seems worthwhile when the Brave Defenders have malt whisky, beer, pizza and gorrgeous women...

Pfft.

I have organic muesli, unsweetened yoghurt, 100% indica bud and a tie-dyed T-shirt.

As far as Murknized spellings are concerned, I'm all about feeling the love.

And as far as the equation on that cheque goes, my primary issue would be that neither pi nor the base of the natural logarithm are precisely definable as decimals or fractions, and the imaginary unit has no real number correspondence whatsoever.

You might as well write a cheque for "around about five dollars and a bit".

Hitcher
1st January 2007, 16:18
I have organic muesli, unsweetened yoghurt, 100% indica bud and a tie-dyed T-shirt.

Tell me you're doing it to impress a woman, rather than for any perceived health benefits. Please.

jrandom
1st January 2007, 16:29
FWIW, BTW, as far as I can make out, like rainman said, e to the i times pi plus the sum of 1 over two to the n for n = 1 to infinity cancel each other out (-1 + 1), so the guy wrote a cheque for 2/10ths of a cent.

I betcha there's some law somewhere about financial instruments only being valid to within a whole cent, and I also betcha the guy just copied that "-1 + 1" shit out of a textbook, and meant to write 2 cents, not 2/10ths of a cent.

When in doubt, always assume that people are stupider than they look. Works for me.

Mr. Peanut
1st January 2007, 16:41
Green stamps? Hardly seems worthwhile when the Brave Defenders have malt whisky, beer, pizza and gorrgeous women...

Been dipping into the reserves have we?

vifferman
1st January 2007, 16:52
I jes (this morning!) returned me from my Xmas Vacation in Murrkaland, and they's language is dumb: "check" can be used three times in financial transactions, to indicate the invoice, cheque, and receipt. And presumably other normal uses of the word.

But apart from that, I liked my visit to the Sultanate of kaliphornicatia very much.

Highlights:
- Flying Business Class both ways :Punk:
- Using the VIP lounge in LA for our long wait for the flight
- A day at Universal Studios with "Front of the Line" passes
- A day at Sequoia National Park, Yosemite, in the snow
- The price of petroleum distillates
- Surprisingly friendly people at US Immigration
- Not being killed when driving like a Dick
- The general politeness of Murkn drivers (mostly). Except those couple of wankers on the LA freeways on Friday night).

Lowlights:
- The chemical concoction that passes for milk
- All but one cup of "coffee" (the exception was a reasonable espresso at an Italian restaurant)
- The vifferbabe spending all Thursday night spewing
- Breakfast 'food' at most of the hotels
- My birthday somehow disappearing
- New Year's Eve disappearing completely. WTF?!?
- Having all our new Murkn Funnymoney checked carefully by vendors unused to it.
- Beggars

"I Could Go Either Way":
- Christmas Day lunch at a French Jazz cafe in SF (lovely day, lovely lunch, but not at all Christmassy)
- 600ml energy drinks
- Murkn notes
- Coming home again.

scracha
1st January 2007, 17:17
I'd call you all 'maths geeks' lol - I wouldn't even attempt such a calculation :dodge:

Pah...just cos some of us listened at high school. Anyway, maths type people are "nerds"...not at all like us geeks :second:

Ixion
1st January 2007, 19:06
FWIW, BTW, as far as I can make out, like rainman said, e to the i times pi plus the sum of 1 over two to the n for n = 1 to infinity cancel each other out (-1 + 1), so the guy wrote a cheque for 2/10ths of a cent.

I betcha there's some law somewhere about financial instruments only being valid to within a whole cent, and I also betcha the guy just copied that "-1 + 1" shit out of a textbook, and meant to write 2 cents, not 2/10ths of a cent.

When in doubt, always assume that people are stupider than they look. Works for me.

A cheque is a substitute for legal tender, and sums of less than one cent are not legal tender quality - they are monies of account only. So you are correct in your surmise.

However, the correct answer to the question "what is this cheque worth" is "nothing". A cheque must be written in English (or Maori I presume, since that is a valid official language) and (arabic) numbers. Mathematical expressions are neither. So it is not a valid instrument and is worthless.