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disenfranchised
27th December 2006, 09:57
Tought I'd share a couple of short articles I've seen.
Not the most recent items, but haven't seen them mentioned here yet.

New look Hyosung bikes (http://sameerkumar.blogspot.com/2006/10/hyosung-trendkiller-and-gt650x-shown.html)

Hyosung powered racebike (http://sameerkumar.blogspot.com/2006/09/fischer-mrx-ready-to-roll.html)

ZeroIndex
27th December 2006, 10:07
The 650X doesn't look too bad (for a Hyosung), but watch that you don't cut yourself on the curves on the MRX :rofl:

stevedee
27th December 2006, 10:11
Great looking bikes and the video is pretty good as well. Think that they will be a force to be reckoned with. I'd buy one.

spd:-)

moko
27th December 2006, 15:03
Brit mag reviews ahve been favourable towards the Hyosung 650 range.Suzuki were rattle enough here to massively discount the SV for a while,now Suzi prices have crept up again,Hyosung have thankfully ditched the "SV clone" styling and the latest models are comparitively very cheap and look very sharp.to paraphrase a Brit bike mag talking about another model entirely the Hyosung is 99% of the SV for 80% of the money,personally I think it looks a lot better than the Suzi and the mag reports have been very,very favourable.

Meekey_Mouse
27th December 2006, 15:06
Wow! Hyosungs might be moving up in the world:gob:

madandy
27th December 2006, 15:19
"...the Hyundai of Motorcycles..."

When they get serious about a Litre twin, and unleash that it should be quite impressive after the first generations' faults are ironed out.

SixPackBack
27th December 2006, 15:30
*SPB shudders *...........uuurgh they is 'orrible!!

SwanTiger
27th December 2006, 15:31
"...the Hyundai of Motorcycles..."

When they get serious about a Litre twin, and unleash that it should be quite impressive after the first generations' faults are ironed out.
A 1000cc V-Twin engine is in development and due to be released in a cruiser series sometime mid 2007 followed by a sports bike series. It is designed to compete with the SV1000 however it is set to have slightly more horsepower so may win the battle hands down with price and horsepower advantage.

Their current downfall would have to be the 250cc V-Twin engine, it has the potential to put out 35 HP with approximately $600 - $1,000 worth of modifications. Hopefully they catch onto this and create more powerful 250cc engines, this would definitely see them create a cult following and market domination, especially in places like New Zealand.

ZeroIndex
27th December 2006, 15:50
A 1000cc V-Twin engine is in development and due to be released in a cruiser series sometime mid 2007 followed by a sports bike series. It is designed to compete with the SV1000 however it is set to have slightly more horsepower so may win the battle hands down with price and horsepower advantage.

Their current downfall would have to be the 250cc V-Twin engine, it has the potential to put out 35 HP with approximately $600 - $1,000 worth of modifications. Hopefully they catch onto this and create more powerful 250cc engines, this would definitely see them create a cult following and market domination, especially in places like New Zealand.

so, what bike are you gonna be getting next?

Bonez
27th December 2006, 15:51
Any 650 owners had sticking valve issues here at all?

SwanTiger
27th December 2006, 22:41
Any 650 owners had sticking valve issues here at all?
This issue seems to be isolated (for the majority) to North American customers and it has been suggested that bad fuel is the cause. I don't know how much truth there is to that explanation, however the last time I checked Kawasaki NZ nor any dealer in NZ who has sold a Hyosung is aware of a customer experiencing this problem.

Then again, I have heard of a guy who raced his GT650 having the engine shit itself, I don't know if sticky valves were the issue. I think motobob or keystone19 know of the guy, perhaps someone else on KB does too and can elaborate?

Hillbilly
28th December 2006, 01:10
Not sure about the styling, but the steel trellis frame in the 650X is a step in the right direction. The steel twin spar frame in the 650GT series adds 20kg to the weight over the SV's 168kg alloy frame.

I keep getting the impression that the GT250 has the same or a very similar steel frame to the GS500. At 170kg, the GT250R is too heavy.

N4CR
28th December 2006, 01:47
Their current downfall would have to be the 250cc V-Twin engine, it has the potential to put out 35 HP with approximately $600 - $1,000 worth of modifications.
WHY??????????????? 35 IS NOTHING.

DIY TURBO A ZXR/CBR250 ETC OR SPEND 1K ON A 2T AND YOU HAVE SOMETHING THAT WILL SMOKE A 400 WITH EASE. WASTE OF MONEY STILL TO MOST PEOPLE.

HYOSUNG IS STILL A HYOSUNG, ITS SHIT. YOU CAN PUT A DUCATI MOTOR IN IT, IT'S STILL A HYOSUNG. I WOULDN'T TOUCH IT FOR A FEW YEARS, JUST LIKE MOST NEW ASIAN MARKET PRODUCTS. DODGY THEN QC AND PRODUCTION REIFNEMENT KICKS In AND IT'S ALL GOOD. THEN THE PRICE GOES UP AS WELL.....

WHERE THE HELL IS WINJA GET HIM BACK! OR I'LL GET FURRY KITTENS ON YOU



I keep getting the impression that the GT250 has the same or a very similar steel frame to the GS500. At 170kg, the GT250R is too heavy. YES IF ITS 170KG DRY AND IT'S A 250 'SPORTY TOURERY NO BALLS BIKE' THEN YES IT'S QUEER AND IS IN DIRE NEED OF JENNY CRAIG. IT IS PROBABLY IN 600 TERRITORY WHEN WET? ZXR250C WET 2./3RDS FUEL IS A HEALTHY 160KG. AND THATS 17 YEARS OLD!!

Bonez
28th December 2006, 05:27
WHY??????????????? 35 IS NOTHING.

DIY TURBO A ZXR/CBR250 ETC OR SPEND 1K ON A 2T AND YOU HAVE SOMETHING THAT WILL SMOKE A 400 WITH EASE. Aren't 400s the same price or cheaper. Add a DIY turbo to them then what?

disenfranchised
28th December 2006, 06:26
I keep getting the impression that the GT250 has the same or a very similar steel frame to the GS500. At 170kg, the GT250R is too heavy.

But its supposed to only be 150kg (155 for the GT250R) which seems to be only around 10kg heavier than the older 250's you get.

Bonez
28th December 2006, 07:03
But its supposed to only be 150kg (155 for the GT250R) which seems to be only around 10kg heavier than the older 250's you get.Not too bad really. My old '77 CJ250T, a vertical twin, weighed in at around 159kgs dry/183.0 kg wet, had about 27hp and 80mph top speed. Could handle 600km plus weekend trips no worries. You could slot a Cb360 donk in them. I like the fact the GT250s are a biggish framed bike.

Edit- Would be interesting to do a side by side comparison with a GT250, GT250R, GPX250 and GSX250 twin.

Maha
28th December 2006, 07:33
Why feck around with them when you could feck around with this 185hp fecker:yes: .....


http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7694/2647/1600/Moto%20Corse%20MV%20Platino.jpg

disenfranchised
28th December 2006, 07:37
Edit- Would be interesting to do a side by side comparison with a GT250, GT250R, GPX250 and GSX250 twin.

Do you mean in the real world, or just on paper?
cause there'se always stuff like this around

http://www.motorbikes.be/en/compare.aspx

Bonez
28th December 2006, 07:39
Why feck around with them when you could feck around with this 185hp fecker:yes: .....


http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7694/2647/1600/Moto%20Corse%20MV%20Platino.jpg

The Suzuki you mean?

That thing in the front is Chinese owned. Obviously of poorer quality............

Bonez
28th December 2006, 07:43
Do you mean in the real world, or just on paper?
cause there'se always stuff like this around

http://www.motorbikes.be/en/compare.aspxReal world stuff of course. Paper crap is ok around the bonfire while drinking a few Woodstocks.

Maha
28th December 2006, 07:53
The Suzuki you mean?

That thing in the front is Chinese owned. Obviously of poorer quality............

Italian-Japanese i think you will find Bonez...and at US$88,000 the Agusta is a step in the right direction....:yes:

Bonez
28th December 2006, 07:56
Italian-Japanese i think you will find Bonez...I stand corrected. Thanks. The Chinese seem to be owning everything these days it's hard to keep up.

Hillbilly
28th December 2006, 09:26
But its supposed to only be 150kg (155 for the GT250R) which seems to be only around 10kg heavier than the older 250's you get.

Check out the specs according to the review attached. It's 170kg dry. (2nd part of the review is only a photo)

PS: NC4R, you're caps lock key is stuck!

disenfranchised
28th December 2006, 10:00
Check out the specs according to the review attached. It's 170kg dry.

Seems to depend what you read

Australian site has it at 155Kg
http://www.hyosungmotors.com.au/gt250r.html

UK site has it at 171Kg
http://www.hyosung.co.uk/detail.php?id=6

Korean at 168Kg
http://www.hyosungmotors.co.kr/product_e/roadsport/gt250r_s.asp

And an independent statistics which claims a frankly ridiculous 126Kg
http://www.bikez.com/motorcycles/hyosung_gt_250_r_2006.php

N4CR
28th December 2006, 19:10
Aren't 400s the same price or cheaper. Add a DIY turbo to them then what?

TURBO A HYOSUNG IF IT CAN TAKE IT THEN WHAT. I'M JUST SAYING MODDING A HYOSUNG OR A 250 WITHOUT A TURBO OR SOME OTHER SERIOUS STUFF IS PRETTY POINTLESS REALLY PRICE/PERFORMANCE ETC. TURBO A 400 WOULD BE INTERESTING ACTUALLY, MAYBE LOW 600 POWER IN A SMALL PACKAGE?


PS: NC4R, you're caps lock key is stuck!

IT'S N4CR AND YES I KNOW, I'M REPLACING WINJA TILL I SEE FIT.

TonyB
28th December 2006, 20:01
Then again, I have heard of a guy who raced his GT650 having the engine shit itself, I don't know if sticky valves were the issue. I think motobob or keystone19 know of the guy, perhaps someone else on KB does too and can elaborate?

If it was in Chch then it was related to the flywheel. As an aside, since the Hyosung in question died, the owner has heard several stories of big brand V-Twins destroying crankshafts and flywheels under race conditions, so the problem was not a result of poor build quality.

Bonez
28th December 2006, 20:08
If it was in Chch then it was related to the flywheel. As an aside, since the Hyosung in question died, the owner has heard several stories of big brand V-Twins destroying crankshafts and flywheels under race conditions, so the problem was not a result of poor build quality.How do you come to that conclusion? Without inspecting the components?