Wanted tyre warmers

[Firefight]

anyone know of any tyre warmers for sale ?

new/second hand, please drop me a pm, or tx 021 21 35978.


firefight :cool2:

[Two Smoker]

They get up around the $450 mark for new ones, but ill have a chat to some people, see what i can find out :niceone:

[Firefight]

They get up around the $450 mark for new ones, but ill have a chat to some people, see what i can find out :niceone:


thanks chris, let me know as soon as you can .

F/F :crazy:

[Motoracer]

I know what you are upto FF. I am overwhelmed but hold that thought because looks like I just need to put a bit of time into it to make my own.

I am making one for the front only atm as an experiment.

Here is what I am going to be using as materials.

* Second hand, electric blanket from trademe
* Water repalent and breathable car cover as the outer cover
* Heavy duty plastic inner to seal off the electrics from water.
* Heat Insulator (old second hand sleeping bag) to go on the outter side of the warmer. I will use two layers of the inner on the outter side to put the insulant in between to minimise fire risks.

Does anyone else have anyother advises to give on things that I might need to watch out for? I am going to take full measures to make it fully waterproof.

If it's a success, I might even make them and sell em :D

[FROSTY]

just a lil point guys --Um dont we need 240v to run them things?
I saw a cool idea once-don't know if its work though.
Those chemical neck and back warmers work for an hour at a time-
cheap as too-$30 each---wonder how well they would work as tyre warmers.

[Motoracer]

just a lil point guys --Um dont we need 240v to run them things?

Yup. They should have power supply on all the tracks. They have it at Pukie, Manfield and I don't quite remember if they did in Taupo...

[Firefight]

[QUOTE=Motoracer]I know what you are upto FF. I am overwhelmed but hold that thought because looks like I just need to put a bit of time into it to make my own.



Firstly it is very presumptuos of you to think they are for you, I know I am not as good a rider as you, but how do you know there not for me ? :confused2 .

Secondly, you are spending far too much time out west, Who does it remind me of ?? :confused: I take it this home made electro thingy will have some form of electrical complinace certificate ? No, I thought not ?, Make sure you try this thing out before you come out to Pukekohe, the last thing we need is a power outage for the whole district, its not that long since we got power hooked up out here, its still a bit of a novelty ! :crazy:

So any one who was getting me prices for these warmers please continue
to look and advise me.

Firefight :crazy:

[Motoracer]

Well FF, I haven't heard anyone using them for the road and something tells me that you won't be riding on the track often enough for it to be worth it. Unless you are secretly planning on racing as well??

Ok, so since it won't be a legally certified product, I won't be selling them.

I have already bought the car cover, and I have just placed a bid on the blanket which I should hopefully win by tomorrow. I'll try to gather the rest of the stuff in the weekend and hopefully make at least the front one by next weekend.

P.S. I used to live out west. You should have seen some of my creations from that time :crazy:. I used to race BMX's that I had put together from what I had gathered from the dump.

[FROSTY]

well then MR why doncha come out to massey-Were having an inorganic collection at the mo. Youll have enuff bits to build 100 tyre warmers.
Actually I must admit I spotted a trike in like "as new" condition on top of a inorganinic pile. I snaffled it into the boot of my car.
It was one of those warehouse specials that needed putting together --
Clearly It was assembled by a non westie because NOTHING worked
Took it to bits and put it back together and it really is like brand new.

[Motoracer]

If you have some old sleeping bag or an old jacket that you need chucking away, I could make good use of that. It'd save me on scrolling through trademe for that too.

[Two Smoker]

Hey Dave, ive seen brands such as Dragon Tyre warmers pop up a bit, prices are around $300-$900....... Still havent talked to some people but will do and get back to you :niceone:

[Firefight]

Hey Dave, ive seen brands such as Dragon Tyre warmers pop up a bit, prices are around $300-$900....... Still havent talked to some people but will do and get back to you :niceone:


Yeah okay Chris, pm me when you got the info, don,t want you know who to know. :crazy:

F/F

[Kwaka-Kid]

hey there FF. Listen Gary @ GP trading was doing them for about $400 a pair or there abouts at least!
Was considering going there (tauranga) sometime soon to pickup a set of tyres if he can help me out - if you like i can ask him and see what he can do ?

Anyways i reckon sudeeps the f-ing man for his idea! shit me sudeep you stole it off me! i already talked to my mate nick about sorting out his old electric balnket etc!

[Motoracer]

Anyways i reckon sudeeps the f-ing man for his idea! shit me sudeep you stole it off me! i already talked to my mate nick about sorting out his old electric balnket etc!

Lol see, I am not the only cheap skate out here! I hope it all works out well for both of us.

[andy1]

Hey FF, i got a price for TyrSox tire warmers $600Brand new. I wouldnt have a fucken clue what they sell for in NZ?! Let me know! ;)

sayonara!

[andy1]

This is in the wrong forum but FF do u know what Digital Gear Display`s sell for in NZ? if anyone can find out thanx a mil!
seeya!

Oyasumi

[Firefight]

Hey FF, i got a price for TyrSox tire warmers $600Brand new. I wouldnt have a fucken clue what they sell for in NZ?! Let me know! ;)

sayonara!


Thanks mate, have been qouted about NZ$800.. for them, sounds like a good price, a bit of difference in brands, have been quoted from :sneaky2: NZ$300.00 up to NZ$1000.00... also am looking into those digiy thingymabobs for you.

F/F

[Motoracer]

Small question here guys. It seemed all good in theory but now I have come across a bit of a problem.

On the electric blankets that I got from the warehouse, it says that I need to allow 2 hours to let it warm up. 2 Hours?? Half of my racing will be finished by then. It also says that I strictly need to keep it flat when it is operational (so maybe they are using different types of fragile wireings on these blankets that can't be bent?)

What do ya reckon guys? Is it possible to safely crank up the juice so that I don't have to wait for 2 hours to get it up to temperature?

[Cajun]

most electric blankets don't take to long to heat up, but they might take a while to heat up a tire, they say don't bent electric blanks, cause they can damage wire inside, and then catch a light, but i do see that to much of a problem since you will there with the bike

[Motoracer]

most electric blankets don't take to long to heat up, but they might take a while to heat up a tire, they say don't bent electric blanks, cause they can damage wire inside, and then catch a light, but i do see that to much of a problem since you will there with the bike

Cheers Cajun, I'll see what I can manage.

[wkid_one]

You can pick them up new from the Uk for a little over one hundred pounds. Go to www.motrax.co.uk (http://www.motrax.co.uk/) - they are UK118 I think

Now bear in mind that most of these need a power outlet - which may prove a problem in some situations.

Also remember that a tyre warmer is designed for a very different purpose than an electric blanket - and you may in fact be wasting your time and effort entirely by making something that doesn't warm the tyre effectively - or worse - over heats the tyre. Whilst making your own is the kiwi way - when tyres are the only thing between winning and binning - I would be inclined to trust the R&D of those specifically designed for the job.

[Cajun]

no worrys MR

[Hoon]

80C deg it'll need to be able to heat to. 50C for wets. Hey MR I'll go halves with you on a king size blanket and maybe we can fit both our tyres in!

[Cajun]

maybe you can just put it over whole back so you can warm whole bike up won't even have to go for warm up lap dc:<

[wkid_one]

Just take your wheels to bed with you? Or take a really big microwave? Maybe a big magnifying glass for sunny days?

[Motoracer]

Sorry hoon, I already have my blankets wit me.

Other two ideas floating in my head are:

1) Rubber tubes that can be tied around the bike wheel. Then I could pour hot water in it. Pros: Simple. Cost effective Cons: Hassel to get hot water, heat doesn't last for too long even if I insulate it well.

2) Again rubber tubes with one of them small electric heaters to blow air into the rubber tubes. It'll only have an intake so it'll constantly be fed hot air. Pros: constant heat is supplied Cons: a bit complicated to put together and set up.

I just need to find thoes old fashion tire tubes of the right size. I wonder if they still make em for tractors or something...

[Kickaha]

Thanks mate, have been qouted about NZ$800.. for them, sounds like a good price, a bit of difference in brands, have been quoted from :sneaky2: NZ$300.00 up to NZ$1000.00... also am looking into those digiy thingymabobs for you.

F/F

There can be a difference between them and not just in the price,the better ones will even have adjustable thermostats,one temp doesn't fit all,the tyre manufacturer should be able to give you optimum temps to have them set at depending on what tyres you are using.

You get more benefits from tyre warmers than just having tyres up to temp when you hit the track,they will also extend your tyres life,one day is now one heat cycle.

Make sure the first thing you do when you come off the track is put them on and leave joining the dummy grid for as long as you can so they have less chance to cool down.

[Motoracer]

There can be a difference between them and not just in the price,the better ones will even have adjustable thermostats,one temp doesn't fit all,the tyre manufacturer should be able to give you optimum temps to have them set at depending on what tyres you are using.

You get more benefits from tyre warmers than just having tyres up to temp when you hit the track,they will also extend your tyres life,one day is now one heat cycle.

Make sure the first thing you do when you come off the track is put them on and leave joining the dummy grid for as long as you can so they have less chance to cool down.

Good points, cheers!

[Kwaka-Kid]

How Essential are tyre warmers guys? And im serious - as okay i do only run proddy tyres and proddy tyres are made to heat up in normal street conditions i guess.. but at any track, say pukekohe, i head out there, and i spend the whole back straight weaving hardout, and around the bends and everything *DELETED CONTENT* ... well yeah sorry i started babling and giving away race technique, but what im saying is after all that are my tyres not warmed up? I always get good starts etc and if anything loose places during the race but that first lap is the good one!

[Kickaha]

I'll try and find the link but an American magazine spent a day at a track testing tyre warmers,weaving,etc and the end conclusion was pretty much anything other than tyre warmers was a waste of time for heating the tyres and weaving didn't really work

http://venus.13x.com/roadracingworld/issues/feb00/weave.htm


maybe the value of weaving is more pyschological :bleh:

[Motoracer]

Kickaha mentioned before that the tire warmers prevent heat cycles between races, which is really important. On the winter series, no matter what you do in the first race in the morning, it won’t warm up till your last few laps of the race (I am talking about a 6-lap race) unless you got warmers.

[wkid_one]

They also prevent cold tearing damage to the tyre which is equally important.

I've been doing a bit of reading on this as well seeing as the CBR will see a bit of track time - and thanks for the advice Kick.

If you read most of the tyre warmer websites - they say typically three laps to hit optimum temp - thereby 50% of the race!

Reading the web - one factor to heating your tyres is also the type of tyre you are using. The more race oriented the tyre - the quicker it is likely to get to optimum temp - but also the quicker it is likely to lose temp. Ie, whether you are using pure race v road tyres. Looking on the web - two things work best to heat tyres - warmers and laps.

I too have read and been told that weaving is next to useless at getting tyres to temp as at the of the day - you actually have to slow down to weave - therefore you actually REDUCE that amount of heat the tyres get - food for thought.

I suppose this is something I will need to look into next year - fuck, more money - but hey, you can't take it with you.

[Firefight]

we are now sorted, thanks to all who offered help, advice and contacts for
tyre warmers, :wacko:

F/F.