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gamgee
7th January 2007, 13:23
Ok I've been riding my NC30 for about a month now, and I'm still getting really sore wrists, even when I try and take the load off them, and a sore arse after a while (I don't think there is much I can do about that). Anyway does anyone have any hints about stopping the pain, as at the moment it's really making me consider going back to something a little less painful (any suggestions on bikes that would be?)
Ixion
7th January 2007, 13:25
D'ya hear Mr Rossi complaining about sore wrists and a sore arse?
gamgee
7th January 2007, 13:27
D'ya hear Mr Rossi complaining about sore wrists and a sore arse?
yeah well I'm not doing this for a living! anyway, it's fine once I'm really riding it, 100k through the twisties, it seems to be more when i'm just cruising along at around 50-80k that my wrists and hands just go numb
Ixion
7th January 2007, 13:28
Well, ther's y' answer. Do y' see Mr Rossi riding at 50-80 kph?
gamgee
7th January 2007, 13:29
Well, ther's y' answer. Do y' see Mr Rossi riding at 50-80 kph?
hmmmm:slap: :devil2: so what your saying is I should be riding as fast as I can all the time :Punk:
sAsLEX
7th January 2007, 13:33
What you need is some "Harden Up" pills, your local pharmacy should have some
gamgee
7th January 2007, 13:42
What you need is some "Harden Up" pills, your local pharmacy should have some
or just some advice would be good... numb wrists and hands aren't exactly safe if I needed to grab the brake
onearmedbandit
7th January 2007, 13:45
Change your riding position around when riding slower. Use your stomach muscles (or muscle if that's the case) to lessen the weight on your wrists.
sAsLEX
7th January 2007, 13:47
or just some advice would be good... numb wrists and hands aren't exactly safe if I needed to grab the brake
Well build up riding slowly and if your hands are numb...stop.
Its just your body aint used to being folded up on a NC30 so give it time to adjust.
sAsLEX
7th January 2007, 13:50
Change your riding position around when riding slower. Use your stomach muscles (or muscle if that's the case) to lessen the weight on your wrists.
Would be your lower back muscles to straighten you up and take weight off your wrists. Your stomach muscles are good for folding sit up style, but not that great for riding.....
imdying
7th January 2007, 14:12
The NC30 was never intended to commute on. Don't.
Dodgyiti
7th January 2007, 14:17
I have had cafe racers for 20+ years (and 2 wrist operations) and I have found one of those wheels with handles either side for stomach and ab workouts strengthens the wrists no end. Advice given to me by my physio, and it works to some extent. It will also strengthen the stomach and lower back mucles as mentioned here.
Also when riding I rest the throttle wrist by putting my elbow of that hand on my knee and whenever I can, I raise the clutch arm up as the blood pools up due to the position inflicted by the clip-on bars. The pooling up of the blood is usually the thing that causes the 'tingles'.
Train the body, train the mind, hardening up will not stop the lack of feel in your fingers at all. And that is a safety issue.
onearmedbandit
7th January 2007, 14:19
Would be your lower back muscles to straighten you up and take weight off your wrists. Your stomach muscles are good for folding sit up style, but not that great for riding.....
You know what, I was thinking more likely be your back muscles but couldn't be arsed changing it. Good spotting though.
sAsLEX
7th January 2007, 14:19
The NC30 was never intended to commute on. Don't.
Rubbish. Though not designed for it they do it just fine!
sAsLEX
7th January 2007, 14:21
Train the body, train the mind, hardening up will not stop the lack of feel in your fingers at all. And that is a safety issue.
No Pain. No Gain.
He just needs to ride the bike a bit more so his body can adjust/acclimatise
SixPackBack
7th January 2007, 14:24
Your delicate body has not hardened to Sprotbike ridin'. A regular gym session combined with a 700kay riding day every weekend will see you sweet in a coupla months.:scooter:
limbimtimwim
7th January 2007, 14:25
Find some corners.
Dodgyiti
7th January 2007, 14:30
No Pain. No Gain.
He just needs to ride the bike a bit more so his body can adjust/acclimatise
Fair enough, but it is nice to enjoy some of your riding time, especially on something as sweet as an NC30 :love:
As for commuting on one, no worries mate, I commuted on my Mk1 Lemans for a year, and at nearly 6 foot I am folded up like a pretzle on it.
Try the wheel though, will work wonders, trust me.
Hitcher
7th January 2007, 16:01
People who insist on riding sprotsbikes should know better than to complain about riding discomfort. Either harden-the-fuck-up or sell it for something more sumptuous.
HDTboy
7th January 2007, 16:25
hmmmm:slap: :devil2: so what your saying is I should be riding as fast as I can all the time :Punk:
Welcome to the world of sportsbikes. My CBR400 had high rearsets on it. they hurt like nothing else unless you went hard. I went hard most places.
avgas
7th January 2007, 16:46
Sorry buddy, my experience is if it hurts.....the only way its gonna get better is either a) body gets used to it or b) ya change ya bike
Timber020
7th January 2007, 17:03
One word- STREETFIGHTER! big bars, upright position, mine was all good.
Or get some rollar blades and take weight off by standing while riding along.
Or just exercise those parts of you that arent strong enough yet, they are all valid options
mud boy
7th January 2007, 17:15
hmmmm:slap: :devil2: so what your saying is I should be riding as fast as I can all the time :Punk:
well when im riding i go as fast as THE BIKE can go :yes:
Goblin
7th January 2007, 17:28
Just relax your grip on the bars a bit. If you're hanging on too tight you will get sore wrists.
gamgee
7th January 2007, 17:45
yeah hopefully I'll get used to it, I don't really want to sell it
my wrists already get enough of a workout
from surfing you dirty minded people
so i'll try what you've all suggested about straightening up when I'm not riding her hard, shit it was fun riding over three mile hill today at 8000rpm+
Lou Girardin
7th January 2007, 20:22
Buy a proper bike. One you sit on, not mate with.
limbimtimwim
7th January 2007, 20:28
yeah hopefully I'll get used to it, I don't really want to sell itTry and get used to it. I did ~18,000km on my NC in less than 6 months. Getting comfortable on it is possible. Just stay off straight roads. It'll take you more than a month to get used to it and relax.
mynameis
8th January 2007, 00:20
getting really sore wrists and a sore arse after a while
Gamgee sore wrist = stop wanking sore ass = stop hoeing around ! Lolz..nah jokes fella.
Can you adjust the lever position on NC30's? Is it too high? It should be straight and flat when you put your hand on it. You shouldn't have to bend your wrists up or even down they should just lay straight and flat on both levers.
As for your ass try getting more padding on the seat mate, I am sure it won't cost too much, just an option to look into.
mynameis
imdying
8th January 2007, 07:16
People who insist on riding sprotsbikes should know better than to complain about riding discomfort. Either harden-the-fuck-up or sell it for something more sumptuous.QFT. Not designed for commuting, and not good at it. They were designed as a mini replica of an all out sportsbike. You'd be better trading it on something a bit roomier. Or better still, supplementing it for something you can commute on.
limbimtimwim
8th January 2007, 07:22
QFT. Not designed for commuting, and not good at it. Rubbish, it'll be fine.
So what if it tries to burn your right ankle on a hot day?
gamgee
8th January 2007, 07:25
QFT. Not designed for commuting, and not good at it. They were designed as a mini replica of an all out sportsbike. You'd be better trading it on something a bit roomier. Or better still, supplementing it for something you can commute on.
in all seriousness, and as much as I don't want to agree with you, I think you're right, and it isn't going to be that great for commuting, I'm going to give it a chance tho, and if I'm still not hitting the groove, I might move to something a little less sporty, what is there around like that, that is fully faired? what are the kawasaki zxr400's like? as I wouldn't mind one of those
imdying
8th January 2007, 07:32
Don't get rid of the 30, they're too much fun, and sound too good. Give a ZX6R of the G generation, 99-01 iirc. Cheap, good handling, and a bit more room to extend your frame.
NinjaNanna
8th January 2007, 08:03
Hey try one of these
http://www.cycletreads.co.nz/content/catalogueViewEntry.aspx?profilePK=all&entryPK=1229
Might help
Cheers
NN
sAsLEX
8th January 2007, 08:25
QFT. Not designed for commuting, and not good at it. They were designed as a mini replica of an all out sportsbike. You'd be better trading it on something a bit roomier. Or better still, supplementing it for something you can commute on.
Rubbish, it'll be fine.
So what if it tries to burn your right ankle on a hot day?
Well after using mine for commuting among other things over the last two years I agree with limtintmbitmitmiwmi, they are fine for commuting I mean Dunedin how long is your commute? 5 mins?
I find its your arse that gets hot from the rear cylinders~!
jade
8th January 2007, 08:47
I also get sore wrists on my current bike, its weird because I never had it on my other aprilia and yet the frame and riding position are the same...
Ive found that just relaxing my hands tends to resolve the problem...
relax
imdying
8th January 2007, 08:54
Well after using mine for commuting among other things over the last two years I agree with limtintmbitmitmiwmi, they are fine for commuting I mean Dunedin how long is your commute?Once you've ridden some bikes that actually are good for commuting, you'll understand how useless the NC30s are at it. Just because you can commute on them, doesn't make them good at it.
sAsLEX
8th January 2007, 09:11
Once you've ridden some bikes that actually are good for commuting, you'll understand how useless the NC30s are at it. Just because you can commute on them, doesn't make them good at it.
Well compared to my MC22.........
Is that its sole purpose though commuting? I would rather suffer a little during the week and have something that is capable of fun stuff in the weekend
gamgee
8th January 2007, 09:39
yeah but I only really have the bike for commuting, it's about 10mins, and yeah I was wondering why my arse was getting hot when I went for a ride in jeans this morning
I sat more uprite as suggested on the straights and it was definitely an improvement, I only got a little sore once on a really long straight, so yeah thanks for the advice
gamgee
8th January 2007, 09:40
Hey try one of these
http://www.cycletreads.co.nz/content/catalogueViewEntry.aspx?profilePK=all&entryPK=1229
Might help
Cheers
NN
thanks, but damn thats expensive!
NinjaNanna
8th January 2007, 09:48
thanks, but damn thats expensive!
Maybe so but cheaper than trading bikes, btw I can't personally reccomend them just saw them the other day and thought it might help.
sAsLEX
8th January 2007, 10:13
Maybe so but cheaper than trading bikes, btw I can't personally reccomend them just saw them the other day and thought it might help.
I have one and they do work, though never really use it.......
Mr. Peanut
8th January 2007, 11:18
I'm 6ft+ and have no trouble on an even smaller NSR. Grip the tank with your knees, it'll take some of the load off your wrist, the buffeting from the screen at higher speeds helps too.
riffer
8th January 2007, 11:59
One point not yet said, that may be relevant.
A lot of people have their brake and clutch levels turned around too far towards them as well.
Sit on the bike in the normal riding position. Your levers should be placed on the bars such that there should be a straight line along your arm through to the fingers when you use the brake and clutch.
If they are turned too far around you will bend the wrist too much and this can cut off the nerves through the carpal tunnel, which will cause tingling and slight swelling, and general pain.
Hitcher
8th January 2007, 12:44
Sit on the bike in the normal riding position. Your levers should be placed on the bars such that there should be a straight line along your arm through to the fingers when you use the brake and clutch.
Nice in theory. Both the FJR and ST1300 would require significant surgery to allow such adjustments to be facilitated.
gamgee
8th January 2007, 13:57
as would the nc30 I can't adjust it any further or it hits the speedo on full lock
imdying
8th January 2007, 14:06
You might just have to lump it. They're ghey commuters to be sure... but they hoon fab, and look so bloody awesome we can forgive them a little discomfort :yes:
sAsLEX
8th January 2007, 15:14
You might just have to lump it. They're ghey commuters to be sure... but they hoon fab, and look so bloody awesome we can forgive them a little discomfort :yes:
The 916 was meant to be incredibly uncomfortable........:whocares:
imdying
8th January 2007, 15:32
The 916 was meant to be incredibly uncomfortable........:whocares:
Yep, apparently they're a shit of a thing to commute on... but would you? Ticking up miles on the NC30 isn't so bad, they're cheap enough :yes:
arj127
8th January 2007, 16:37
Ok I've been riding my NC30 for about a month now, and I'm still getting really sore wrists, even when I try and take the load off them, and a sore arse after a while (I don't think there is much I can do about that). Anyway does anyone have any hints about stopping the pain, as at the moment it's really making me consider going back to something a little less painful (any suggestions on bikes that would be?)
exactly the same thing on my NC30, plus i also get a sore neck after a while on a longer ride from holding my head up all the time.
F all you can do about it really. Its just the way the bike is. I don't mind to much as my ten month old daughter doesn't let me ride very often anyway. But i still dig riding it.
And also, doesn't the Whitford to Maraitai road suck now, 80 k and double yellows, no fun at all
gamgee
9th January 2007, 11:35
well with the improved posture I didn't get sore at all today, so thanks kiwibiker, you saved my life (from needless pain)
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