CBR250 R vs RR?

[MidnightMike]

So whats the difference, i know the rr's are faster and have double disc brakes, but whats the difference?

And ive done a search and cant find anything on this.

[Coyote]

RR's aren't faster top speed wise as all the CBR250s had the same motor, though the better handling makes you able to go faster. The RR had the nicer frame, banana swing arm, double disks, nicer looks, etc. But they also come at a price nowadays. I got mine for $5500. If I was to get the same one today I'd be looking at $8000. Wish I hung onto it as an investment

RR's 1994 and newer have been restricted to 40hp at the crank, whereas previous models have 45hp

[Mr. Peanut]

They're both excellent bikes, the rider is more important.

[awesker]

what Coyote said pretty much summed it up. Pretty much comes down to personal preference and budget.

[Momentum]

you can pick up a nice 92 rr for like 4 to 5k just dont buy it leading up to summer
there is no way in hell the pre 94's are over 35hp they aint that quick

and the rr's are by far the nicer bike i have had a rr and an r next to each other

[Quartermile]

Yea I'm looking for a RR they seem better

does anyone have one for sale?

[SimJen]

I had both, the RR was the better bike.
Looked better, stopped better didn't really go any quicker though.

[Mr. Peanut]

The answer is get neither, and buy an NSR.

[SimJen]

Thats what I did.....
NSR250SP. Derestricted 60hp.
fireblade brakes, lighter weight, better handling/suspension.....
And the cool dry clutch rattle :)
Kicked the ass of 250-4's
Only get a good one though.....

[FilthyLuka]

The answer is get neither, and buy an NSR.

oh come on! hes already buying a honda! doesnt need to be a smokey, high pitched and rattly honda...

on that note i agree, buy a nsr...

denden

[steved]

Courtesy of Vtec in another thread;


HP is meant to be the same, but I've ridden MC22's heaps, and the power delivery is different, less mid range, but more top end, although that could all just be in the carb tune.

The brakes on the MC22 are WAY better. I think the MC19 has a skinnier rear wheel. The suspension and steering geometry's are very different. The MC19 definitely feels more like a commuter, and the MC22 feels more like a track bike.

Let's put it this way, I ride my MC22's pretty well. My mate got an MC19, and he wanted me to commute for a day on it to find out what I thought, and if it needed anything doing, I nearly made it all the way home before I lost the rear end on a left hander that I do noticeably faster on my MC22. A bit embarrassing, part of me sliding it out can be attributed to the very dissappointing Pirelli Sport Demons not being properly broken in, but I've just lost all confidence in the MC19.

The only things the same on the bike are the engine, and the headlights and taillights.

The things that are definitely different, are:
The wheels
The brakes
The suspension
The chassis
The Swingarm
The carbs
And a whole lot of other things. The MC22 was a big step up in my opinion.

I'll put it another way. Id rather have an mc22 than a ZXR250c, but I'd rather have a ZXR250c than an mc19.

[BUNGY]

Really when it comes down to it your better off to get a single R because its way cheaper for only a slighty better bike that you intend to sell again once you get onto your full license. Plus because your just a learner getting a fast bike you will probably crash and then the insurance is going to cost more. :rockon:

[Quartermile]

Yea ok but when your spending your life savings on a bike or in Bungys case more than your life savings you want to get a good one and if your spending more on it now you will probably end up getting more for it when you sell it.

Also if you intend to loose your bike on a corner maybe you should look at getting the better bike with the bigger tyres and double front brakes.

Although not like you need that with your nice cornering skills Bungy ( Midnight Mike can back this up) :scooter:

But I suppose when your used to the cheaper nastier bike's in life like the :sick: kr:sick: as apposed to the finer things maybe the cheaper option is bets for you.

[hurricane_r]

i have a CBR250R

i put a RR engine in it and a RR exhuast conversion

RR up next to R is alot diferent, same thing is really only the base block
all looming /chassis all running gear is diferent,

the RR is better all round than the R techicaly,

with right setup R can keepup with and i think go faster maybe than the RR *which im going to do*

but yes like others said, comes down to rider, a good rider on a R could easily thrash a averagly quick rider on RR

my opinion,,,

[TygerTung]

Really you're wasting your time if you want a fast bike which handles well, 4's are no good at all.

You want a 2 stroke twin, perhaps a suzuki RGV250, these go much cheaper than the CBR's, are much faster, and MUCH lighter, around 30-40kg lighter, more power and better handling.

It's either a:

Suzuki RGV-250
Yamaha TZR-250
Honda NSR-250
Kawasaki KR-1(s)

The suzuki is by far the most plentiful and easy to get parts for, the others are more rare, the kawaski is VERY rare although has the most power, may not handle AS well as the others, but it is very good.

There is earlier 2 stroke 250's around (RG-250, KR-250, NS-250R, RZ250 etc) but these, although having GREAT performance suffer reliability problems being a bit older.

So if you want a showey bike which doesn't really go anywhere, by all means get a CBR/ZXR/FZR/GSX-R250, but if you ACTUALLY want performance, get a 2 stroke.

If it's gonna be ya first bike DON'T get a 2 stroke, get a cheap 125 which you can thrash and crash and learn how to REALLY ride, horsepower is your enemy when you are learning, you need to know how to ride without it. When you know how to really get the most out of a bike around the corners etc, then you're best to move up to somthing with a bit more power.:scooter:

[aderino4]

I used to own a 89 CBR250R. love it to bits.. bulletproof and very easy to ride.

It goes fast around the corner and pulls quite well even though it has a very strong tendencey to slap around if you get a bump mid corner.

Whenever I look at the RR, the R looks very dated and ugly.
So if you can afford it go with the RR otherwise you will regret getting the R.

3 years later (today) I own NSR250SE. Damn noisy, vibrating, rattly (although I love the dry clutch rattle) and a bit harder to commute compare to the CBR (due to the bogging down below 5k and all; but I'm sure it can be sorted with more fine tuning).

It also has a more extreme riding position and hurt the wrist a lot more than the CBR.

It handles so much better, much easier to go fast and it looks better.

If you can afford the 2 stroke oils and don't mind the harsher riding position with all the noise int he world. Go with the NSR. The swipe card is a very nice bonus as well.

[Quartermile]

Like Bungy's Kr thats got Heaps of power, Yea Right

Na personally I would prefer not to get a 2stroke, I realise they have a fair few more BHP but I'll be happy with a 4 moving up from the Fxr and get a 600 when the time comes.

[Indiana_Jones]

The CBR250R looks better then the RR to me. I must be too retro.

-Indy

[Quartermile]

I just got a GSX250RR and that's great pretty similar to the CBR250RR's I think but they got a good old Suzuki label:D