I need new tyres

[ArcherWC]

Well after my thrash up norf (being schooled by DMNT:gob: ), I am now in need of new tyres.
Have been using pilots in the past, but am looking at the new Metzler Sportec M3s or Racetec K3.

I use the bike as my daily commuter and for "spirited" fun riding. Im really not bothered by wear (if i have to replace monthly, so be it), but i need to have total confidance in them in all weather, thus i am leaning towards the M3's just by the look of the tread patton.

Can i please have some opinions from the more experianced supersport riders out there.

Ps: i dont like Pirelli so dont even think about telling me to get corsas :shutup:

[Mrs Busa Pete]

have you consided some square crossplys you nana

[boomer]

buy my pilot power.. $100 for teh front and i'll give you teh rear for a spare track/play thing.

and do a fukin search..:p theres plenty of crap on tyres alredy

[Kwaka14]

I'm going to try the Avon Vipers next so I can have a play on the 12, they seem pretty good from what I've heard..... The Azaro's I'm running at the moment are great so can only imagine what the Viper is like as a softer compound.

[ArcherWC]

have you consided some square crossplys you nana


Funny bastard

Choice is going to be one of the following

1. Pilot Powers (though have always had pilots and want to try something else)
2. Metzler M3
3. Dunlop D208rr (qualifiers???)

[quickbuck]

I would go for the M3.
They were fitted to my 600 when I got it, and loved them.

Put on a couple of sets over the past 2 years, and they give plenty of confidence.
Went to M6's (Roadtec) as my daily commute is very straight. They have served well also, however don't give quite the same grip on the track.
As I only get on the track on occasion there isn't a need (for the extra grip for me) really. I know where the limits of the tyres are....

So, go for the M3's :yes:

[Clivoris]

I'm running Continental Sport Attacks. But to be honest I don't think I notice the finer details of tyre difference. I know that I haven't liked Dunlops or Michelins on previous bikes. The Conti's have never done anything I don't like and get super sticky.

[Dodgyiti]

Cycletreads are having a sale at the moment on Diablo Corsa's for $550 a set.
Got some on Sat and Whoohoo they are great.
Dunno if that suits your price range or not, but I thought it was a good deal?
Was running M3 before and these are a world away.

[Hellraiser]

Get some shinko's they will suit your nana riding.

[Paulus]

Well after my thrash up norf (being schooled by DMNT:gob: ), I am now in need of new tyres.
Have been using pilots in the past, but am looking at the new Metzler Sportec M3s or Racetec K3.

I use the bike as my daily commuter and for "spirited" fun riding. Im really not bothered by wear (if i have to replace monthly, so be it), but i need to have total confidance in them in all weather, thus i am leaning towards the M3's just by the look of the tread patton.

Can i please have some opinions from the more experianced supersport riders out there.

Ps: i dont like Pirelli so dont even think about telling me to get corsas :shutup:

I always thought that Pirelli and Metzeler were now the same company. Certainly my Pirelli Diablos have "Made in Germany" written on the side of them.

My personal feeling is that most of those fast enough on the road to make use of super sticky tyres already know what works. If you don't get some of these race type tyres hot enough they'll have less grip than some of the more road oriented versions. Road surfaces aren't the same as on a race track anyhow and if you're pushing hard enough to need Super Corsas or Race Tecs then you probably won't last long.

[BarBender]

have you consided some square crossplys you nana

Looks like the Waipoua Forest stint is assured a long and painful future for the said Aprilia rider.

Bro - I could be wrong but that list of tyres 'may' not be the best choices for that everyday commuting and weekend fanging combo. Auckland weather is changeable so you need to consider grip as well. I ride the 12 everyday to work and take it out for the odd 500+ 'ride' maybe every second weekend. Personal choice talking here (and as mentioned on a different site) - I tend to go for something like a Strada on the rear and something slightly softer on the front.
And while I am "spirited" at times - I doubt Im riding the bike to warrant anything softer or stickier. I'll leave that sort of stuff for the track.

[DMNTD]

Get some shinko's they will suit your nana riding.
LOL...bling for this man! :killingme :killingme

[Squeak the Rat]

The latest (well the latest in NZ) issue of Bike magazine has a blind tyre test with riders of varying levels of experience. The sports tyre came consistently last, and the sports touring was top followed closely by the track/road tyre.

Most people wouldn't find the limits on a decent sports/touring tyre, and if you're commuting or doing high km's then this might be the more "logical" choice.

But then again, logic shmogic.

:rockon:

[ArcherWC]

LOL...bling for this man! :killingme :killingme


:Oi: Ass :spanking:

[DMNTD]

:Oi: Ass :spanking:
Bring it on Tubby Spice :love:
Re tyres...Pilot Power front...Pilot Sport rear seems to be a popular and safe combo.
Ours currently has a Pilot Road on the back...not for long :yes:

[ArcherWC]

Re tyres...Pilot Power front...Pilot Sport rear seems to be a popular and safe combo.



Thats what ive got now, just wanted a change

Will probably just go Powers front and rear

[Ralph]

Well, out of those chioces that your looking at I would go for the Metzeler M3's, I have powers now and are a great tyre but i will go for the M3's next time just to try them out.
They are both much the same but would expect a slightly longer life from the M3's.
They have a short warm up time like 4km and that tread would profide great grip in the wet aswell, either straight or at 30deg.
Here's a thread about them.
http://http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=40359&highlight=metzeler (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=40359&highlight=metzeler)

Hey if you don't like them change them and you'll know that powers are the tyre for you.

[90s]

Hmm, tread pattern is exactly that - a pattern. Tyres either have water channels or not and the 'pattern' has no demonstratible effect on how well it works.
However, it has a big effect on marketing and it is marketing that designs the tread patterns rather than the good people who work out carcass construction, compounds etc.

This is generally true for on road cars and bikes, but for off-road dealing with viscous materials such as mud etc there can be a genuine effect.

So chose the best construction and design and compound that suits you and then look at the pretty shapes.

(ready to be shot down on this but used to work with dunlop designers so ... )

[Clivoris]

Hmm, tread pattern is exactly that - a pattern. Tyres either have water channels or not and the 'pattern' has no demonstratible effect on how well it works.
However, it has a big effect on marketing and it is marketing that designs the tread patterns rather than the good people who work out carcass construction, compounds etc.

This is generally true for on road cars and bikes, but for off-road dealing with viscous materials such as mud etc there can be a genuine effect.

So chose the best construction and design and compound that suits you and then look at the pretty shapes.

(ready to be shot down on this but used to work with dunlop designers so ... )

Apparently Continental used focus groups to select the most attractive tread pattern for their Attack range. Must be why I like them.

[geoffm]

Hmm, tread pattern is exactly that - a pattern. Tyres either have water channels or not and the 'pattern' has no demonstratible effect on how well it works.
However, it has a big effect on marketing and it is marketing that designs the tread patterns rather than the good people who work out carcass construction, compounds etc.

This is generally true for on road cars and bikes, but for off-road dealing with viscous materials such as mud etc there can be a genuine effect.

So chose the best construction and design and compound that suits you and then look at the pretty shapes.

(ready to be shot down on this but used to work with dunlop designers so ... )



Yes and no. The pattern has a large effect on the way the tyre heats up, and hence the wear and handling. I had a Dunlop D207 on the front of the Beemer - the heavy weight and the tendency for the Ks to push the front made the tread blocks go triangular in section as the were pushed back, leading to some dodgy handling. Anyone here remember ribbed tyres and "tramlining" on grooves in the road?
But yes, beyond the engineering, the tread pattern is also a marketing function.
Geoff

[pritch]

Pilot Power front...Pilot Sport rear seems to be a popular and safe combo.


Ummm that's actually a bit odd. I think those tyres have different profiles and may not be designed to be used together.

As for putting a softer compound tyre on the front, the manufacturers already do this for you...

[pritch]

Hmm, tread pattern is exactly that - a pattern.

Not entirely. Some rear tyres have little or no tread in the centre (eg Z6s and Stradas?) the idea being that the sipes on the front tyre will pump water from the road surface for the rear.

If you paired a Z6 rear with a front that was designed to work with a rear that swept its own water that could create potential for problems of the hydroplaning kind?

Of course, if you feel lucky ...

[ArcherWC]

Went Pilot Powers in the end $500 fitted for the pair at Treads :done: