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riffer
29th July 2004, 11:05
Interesting site discovered while bored:
http://198.144.2.125/MG42/mg42.htm
For those of you for whom a regular machine gun just isn't enough...
the WWII German MG-42
Love the sound when the page starts up!!
jrandom
29th July 2004, 11:08
Hoooooo yus.
If I had the time and money to collect, an MG42 would be at the top of my drool list.
Racey Rider
29th July 2004, 11:14
Does she have a name Spank?
Nice smile :whistle:
vifferman
29th July 2004, 11:40
If only I had a C category licence.Is that like a gun-collector's licence? Our MD is a gun collector, and has all sorts of stuff, including an Oerlikon (sp?), which he has only 3 rounds for, and because they take ages to reload, he hasn't fired it often.
riffer
29th July 2004, 12:09
Does she have a name Spank?
Nice smile :whistle:
Hmmm. How about this:
http://www.hunt-naked-women.com/
SpankMe
29th July 2004, 13:28
Does she have a name Spank?
Nice smile :whistle:
Sydney Moon (http://bunnys.cjb.net/sydney_moon.htm)
jrandom
29th July 2004, 13:55
Is that like a gun-collector's licence?
Yup. A-class is 'sporting guns' - rifles and shotguns, excluding those that come under E-class. B-class is handguns; you need to be an active member of a pistol-shooting club. C-class is collector, which lets you own just about anything. D-class is dealer. E-class is military-style semiautomatics for when you want to own and use semiautos with pistol-grip stocks, magazines of more than seven rounds capacity, etc.
The only way to own a fully-automatic firearm in NZ is via a C-class license.
scumdog
29th July 2004, 15:16
Quote from jrandom:"The only way to own a fully-automatic firearm in NZ is via a C-class license."
'course that's based on the assumption that you want to fall within the guidlines for legal ownership? :whistle: :2guns:
riffer
29th July 2004, 15:27
'course that's based on the assumption that you want to fall within the guidlines for legal ownership? :whistle: :2guns:
And what exactly is the penalty for illegal ownership of this type of weapon?
FROSTY
29th July 2004, 16:17
the penalty is simple--a stroll in front of a panel of your peers--in a bullseye suit
geoffm
29th July 2004, 16:37
Yup. A-class is 'sporting guns' - rifles and shotguns, excluding those that come under E-class. B-class is handguns; you need to be an active member of a pistol-shooting club. C-class is collector, which lets you own just about anything. D-class is dealer. E-class is military-style semiautomatics for when you want to own and use semiautos with pistol-grip stocks, magazines of more than seven rounds capacity, etc.
The only way to own a fully-automatic firearm in NZ is via a C-class license.
Legally anyway. Didn't stop Jorgenson and some mates using an (illegally owned) Reisling SMG in Basset Road all those years ago...
C class means you can own them (with police approval and various fine print), but aren't allowed to shoot them (buggerit)
BTW, prior to 1920, if you could afford to buy one and feed it, you could have whatever pistols or machineguns you wanted. The law was changed (in the UK and we followed) because of fears of a Bolshiviek uprising, as per Russia, as there were a lot of well pissed off ex-servicemen after WW1. Crime has nothing to do with it.
Geoff.
Motu
29th July 2004, 17:08
An engineering company up the road here sometimes makes period guns for the movie industry,some working,some not.I was up there last year and they had a gattling gun they had built and were having a bit of trouble getting it running.I thought it looked kinda usefull....
spudchucka
29th July 2004, 19:13
And what exactly is the penalty for illegal ownership of this type of weapon?
Target practice!
Motu
29th July 2004, 20:28
Just being talking to one of the guys about the gattling gun,they are playing around with the belt feed still,they have a firing alley in the workshop! Apparently it fires .22s and seeing as it's made up of single barrels it's not classed as a machine gun,they aim to sell them - $10,000 each.
Indiana_Jones
29th July 2004, 22:16
ah the classic MG42, it fired so fast it was wasting bullets :)
One of my 1/35th German's has one :Punk:
-Indy
scumdog
30th July 2004, 02:41
And what exactly is the penalty for illegal ownership of this type of weapon?
Nothing if they don't catch you :Pokey:
But whatever your good lawyer can beat them down to. (dunno the penalty, I'll have to wait until i can look up "the book" ):confused2
riffer
30th July 2004, 07:47
Nothing if they don't catch you :Pokey:
But whatever your good lawyer can beat them down to. (dunno the penalty, I'll have to wait until i can look up "the book" ):confused2
I imagine at the very least you would lose your licence and be subject to regular checks in the future. Not to mention it would make it extremely hard to get your licence back.
Probably as difficult as if an ex partner presented an affadavit to family court saying you were a dangerous man.
Jackrat
30th July 2004, 10:09
I imagine at the very least you would lose your licence and be subject to regular checks in the future. Not to mention it would make it extremely hard to get your licence back.
Probably as difficult as if an ex partner presented an affadavit to family court saying you were a dangerous man.
A mate of mine went through a marriage and his soon to be EX did the dirty on him about his guns.The local cops took the lot and it was twelve months before he could apply to have them returned.
He got them back, but what a drama.
A C catagore gun can be fired under police supervison but the paperwork is unreal.I have a Marlin m70 .22 that has a tube mag an takes up to 17 rounds.I shoot at the local club alongside several policemen,nobody has ever said a thing about it but I'm pretty sure it's a no no now days.
Some things are banned because they LOOK scary. :wacko:
scumdog
30th July 2004, 11:32
A mate of mine went through a marriage and his soon to be EX did the dirty on him about his guns.The local cops took the lot and it was twelve months before he could apply to have them returned.
He got them back, but what a drama.
A C catagore gun can be fired under police supervison but the paperwork is unreal.I have a Marlin m70 .22 that has a tube mag an takes up to 17 rounds.I shoot at the local club alongside several policemen,nobody has ever said a thing about it but I'm pretty sure it's a no no now days.
Some things are banned because they LOOK scary. :wacko:
You sais a mouthful there! I can't see why a 5-shot .22 semi-auto with a pistol-grip is treated as a MSSA and needs a special licence but a 15 shot 'normal' looking semi-auto is 'just' a .22 :angry2:
SPman
30th July 2004, 11:42
You sais a mouthful there! I can't see why a 5-shot .22 semi-auto with a pistol-grip is treated as a MSSA and needs a special licence but a 15 shot 'normal' looking semi-auto is 'just' a .22 :angry2:
Because logic and common sense are not pre-requisites for our esteemed legislators????:wacko:
Lou Girardin
31st July 2004, 15:54
Legally anyway. Didn't stop Jorgenson and some mates using an (illegally owned) Reisling SMG in Basset Road all those years ago...
C class means you can own them (with police approval and various fine print), but aren't allowed to shoot them (buggerit)
BTW, prior to 1920, if you could afford to buy one and feed it, you could have whatever pistols or machineguns you wanted. The law was changed (in the UK and we followed) because of fears of a Bolshiviek uprising, as per Russia, as there were a lot of well pissed off ex-servicemen after WW1. Crime has nothing to do with it.
Geoff.
Sorry to be a pedant, it's Reising, Reisling is a particularly nice wine.
If MG42's are a bit scarce, get an M60. It's basically the same ,but with a lower rate of fire.
Can't beat the sound of an M61 Vulcan though, sounds like Hell tearing open.
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