MotoGP 07 pics. [Archive] - Kiwi Biker forums

Finn

18th January 2007, 12:38

The new 800 Suzuki has been one of the fastest bikes in testing so far.

That's great but its actually got to finish a full race without shitting itself. They'll also have to get some decent riders.

Race day will be a different story.

Edit: That Honda sure is a good looking bike.

paturoa

18th January 2007, 12:39

Suzi pictures???

Finn

18th January 2007, 12:43

Suzi pictures???

Here you go...

frogfeaturesFZR

18th January 2007, 12:48

Hows the new Yammy coming along ?

Postie

18th January 2007, 12:48

Here you go...

hahaha... nice. That one might be reliable

There isn't any Suzuki pics available that I could find and copy, but there are some in the news section on the web site
www.motogp.com

not much news of the Yamaha either. It will be awesome no doubt though. Rossi probably hasn't even tried the bike yet, he'll just turn up on race day, get on, ride and win and go for a beer.

Ivan

18th January 2007, 13:05

That's great but its actually got to finish a full race without shitting itself. They'll also have to get some decent riders.

Race day will be a different story.

Edit: That Honda sure is a good looking bike.

Good Riders?

Chris Vermuelen World Supersport champ and 2 times sbk runner up.
John Hopkins only guy left on a 500 and qualified 6th thats pretty good

Finn

18th January 2007, 13:08

Good Riders?

Chris Vermuelen World Supersport champ and 2 times sbk runner up.
John Hopkins only guy left on a 500 and qualified 6th thats pretty good

Chris Vermuelen isn't on solids yet and who?

Ivan

18th January 2007, 13:24

sorry dont understand what you mean?

Finn

18th January 2007, 13:29

sorry dont understand what you mean?

It's that stage in an infants life when they are still on the tit. In other words, they're not eating normal food quite yet (solids).

Ivan

18th January 2007, 13:31

oh ok haha

Yep well he has proved he is a good rider take Leguna Seca last yearwhen he was doing well till electrical issues

WRT

18th January 2007, 13:33

Not sure how having two guys frolicking under the sheets is supposed to help Ducati win championships but hey - each unto their own.

scracha

18th January 2007, 16:12

Here you go...
I think the engine in this Suzuki qualifies for MotoGP

scracha

18th January 2007, 16:13

There isn't any Suzuki pics available that I could find and copy, but there are some in the news section on the web site
www.motogp.com

I've got a subscription to it. PM me and I might tell the pwd.

Crasherfromwayback

20th January 2007, 23:05

Chris Vermuelen isn't on solids yet and who?

Know a bit about racing mate?
oesn't really matter how old Vermuelen is does it? You're saying he's not a decent rider.....are you now saying it's purely because he's young?

Do you know how old Freddie Spencer was when he won his first world GP title?

And John Hopkins.....he's shit too yeah? Doubt you'd win an AMA Formula Xtreme Title at 17 (I think it was) and get snapped up by a top 500 GP team if that was the case.

He's not had a competitive bike to work with yet, but when he does.....you're gonna look pretty G.A.Y. (er)

merv

21st January 2007, 07:57

Edbear

21st January 2007, 08:35

What's intriguing is how the geometry styles have changed over the years too.

Nicky Hayden now sits so far forward of the rear wheel on the 212 http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=51223&d=1169079705, while back in 1972 Geoff Perry damn near sat on the back wheel of the TR500 http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=49423&d=1167180445 (just a shame Geoff is no longer with us to sit on the bike any more)

Moving forward with the times! In a few years they'll be sitting behind the yokes holding the front axle in their hands...:yes:

Sounds a bit like F1, they're going to be just as fast on the 800's this year as the 990's were. I think Rossi may have a bit of competition this year, too just as MS did in F1. The opposition works extra hard to catch up! It's all good for the sport. I didn't agree that F1 got "boring" as many said when Michael was dominating, neither when Rossi was in MotoGP. It just shows up the need for development by the other teams and when they get it right, it brings GREAT racing!

Korea

21st January 2007, 09:04

Yep, it'll be nice for the Suzuki boys to be remotely competitive this year.
Rossi is going to have to work hard - the competition is very fast and talented. Last year's world records are this year's qualifying times and all that...
Up and coming guys to watch for:
Casey Stoner (aka Crash) on the Ducati
Pedrosa
Melandri
Shinya Nakano on a Honda
Actually, pretty much everyone in the field~
There are going to be some great battles :Punk:

White trash

21st January 2007, 09:09

They'll also have to get some decent riders.

Eh? Are you on drugs?

Chris Vermuelen managed to qualify on pole, in his very first season, on what's regarded as the most uncompetitive machine on the grid, at a track he'd only ever seen on Playstation.

Yup, those Suzuki riders are shit.............

merv

21st January 2007, 11:49

Pre-season doesn't mean much until the first race weekend then watch how the practice times go and even that won't matter once someone has won the race.

Remember all the "Rossi is doomed" comments when he was testing the Yamaha his first year on it, but we all remember who won the first race don't we, and the title?

Crasherfromwayback

21st January 2007, 17:06

Eh? Are you on drugs?

Yup, those Suzuki riders are shit.............

Ride one yaself don't ya?:shutup:

Crasherfromwayback

21st January 2007, 17:48

merv

21st January 2007, 18:28

Front mudguard looks like its off a Bella scooter or something and the damn bike is green man what you talking about sexy!

Crasherfromwayback

21st January 2007, 18:47

Green is sexy Merv! I loaded a different profile pic last night....it's my 'Green' GPZ1100.....had a good mate paint it that way....'Red' was SO not Kawasaki!

merv

21st January 2007, 18:51

... and there was me thinking you were loyal to the brands you sell!! :scooter:

Crasherfromwayback

21st January 2007, 19:06

... and there was me thinking you were loyal to the brands you sell!! :scooter:

Mate......I've had over 50 motorcycles in the 30 years I've been riding...worked in 5 shops that have covered all the main 'makes'.....they're all good! It's just that as a youngster (a fucking long time ago now) I thought I was gonna be the next Eddie Lawson!

Finn

21st January 2007, 21:18

Know a bit about racing mate?
oesn't really matter how old Vermuelen is does it? You're saying he's not a decent rider.....are you now saying it's purely because he's young?

Do you know how old Freddie Spencer was when he won his first world GP title?

And John Hopkins.....he's shit too yeah? Doubt you'd win an AMA Formula Xtreme Title at 17 (I think it was) and get snapped up by a top 500 GP team if that was the case.

He's not had a competitive bike to work with yet, but when he does.....you're gonna look pretty G.A.Y. (er)

Shhhh everybody, the village idiot is trying to communicate.

And on the racing front, I may just know a thing or two. Ask Sensei, he knows my real identity. Be prepared to remove your 6 toe foot from your mouth.

Crasherfromwayback

21st January 2007, 22:06

Shhhh everybody, the village idiot is trying to communicate.

And on the racing front, I may just know a thing or two. Ask Sensei, he knows my real identity. Be prepared to remove your 6 toe foot from your mouth.

That's right people....listen up!
This 'Village Idiot' is saying that even if Sensie knows your 'real' identity, you're still not very well informed about all things road racing.

You stated that Suzuki needed riders that were decent.....so you've shown us all just how much you know.

And for the record....I'll be the 'Village Idiot' anytime ahead of the 'Village Butt Muncher'

Finn

22nd January 2007, 06:48

That's right people....listen up!
This 'Village Idiot' is saying that even if Sensie knows your 'real' identity, you're still not very well informed about all things road racing.

You stated that Suzuki needed riders that were decent.....so you've shown us all just how much you know.

And for the record....I'll be the 'Village Idiot' anytime ahead of the 'Village Butt Muncher'

Whos' Sensie? Sensei's sister?

Finn

22nd January 2007, 07:17

Eh? Are you on drugs?

Well yes but come on guys, we're talking about the chances of Suzuki winning the MotoGP.

I don't think so Jim.

Crasherfromwayback

22nd January 2007, 08:00

Valid point. My apologies Sensei.

Crasherfromwayback

23rd January 2007, 09:44

Well yes but come on guys, we're talking about the chances of Suzuki winning the MotoGP.

I don't think so Jim.

While it's early days yet....still only the first day of the test....you may want to check out who's over a second quicker than Rossi at Sepang.
Only a test yes. Only early days yes. But ANY time you're a second a lap better than Rossi.....you're pretty handy on a bike.
Yep....Hopkins is useless.
Have a wee look... www.superbikeplanet.com
Aye....

Crasherfromwayback

23rd January 2007, 09:46

And how small (and SEXY) is the new Kawasaki?

Crasherfromwayback

26th January 2007, 08:06

I'm thinking the new Suzuki is well sexy too....

bistard

26th January 2007, 08:13

And how small (and SEXY) is the new Kawasaki?

Yes,the Kawasaki looks really cool,in fact it looks like my ZXR,I have to go now to check that its still in my Garage!!!

Crasherfromwayback

26th January 2007, 08:19

Put your glasses back on!

cowpoos

26th January 2007, 09:06

And how small (and SEXY) is the new Kawasaki?
I want one!!

Postie

26th January 2007, 09:12

I'm thinking the new Suzuki is well sexy too....

I wish they would just leave them in exposed carbon fibre with the decals like that.

Its fucking horn

Cajun

26th January 2007, 09:15

that kawasaki looks like they borrowed some green paint from the army, looks dull for a kawa green

the suzuki seams to have a huge front gaurd compared to others

Crasherfromwayback

26th January 2007, 09:49

I wish they would just leave them in exposed carbon fibre with the decals like that.

Its fucking horn

Damn straight

Crasherfromwayback

26th January 2007, 09:51

that kawasaki looks like they borrowed some green paint from the army, looks dull for a kawa green

Nah....I think you'll find it's a really nice metallic green.....

Cajun

26th January 2007, 10:19

Nah....I think you'll find it's a really nice metallic green.....

yeah picture of kawak being riden looks okay, just one in pits looks very military green

Crasherfromwayback

26th January 2007, 10:30

How's your eyesight.....looks pretty glossy and metallic to me!:shutup:

Cajun

26th January 2007, 10:31

How's your eyesight.....looks pretty glossy and metallic to me!:shutup:

yeah looks glossy and metallic, but its not kawa BRIGHT green.

Crasherfromwayback

26th January 2007, 10:34

ahhhh...I see what you mean now.....I thought by 'military green' you were meaning 'flat and drab'.....

Postie

26th January 2007, 11:29

some more pictures of Rossi on the new Yamaha, the sponsor still has not been announced but according to sources, they might be dressed in Telefonica colours this year.

below are pics and screen shots I knicked from motogp.com

Rossi is of course, on top and has done the fastest time on the last day, showing all he is still king.
The Suzuki's continue to impress, the bike's made it round at least one entire lap before needing an engine rebuild, but look how fast that lap was.

Crasherfromwayback

26th January 2007, 11:56

.
The Suzuki's continue to impress, the bike's made it round at least one entire lap before needing an engine rebuild, but look how fast that lap was.

In fact....Hopkins did a race length simulation on the last day of the test, a whole seven seconds quicker than his race time last year!

merv

26th January 2007, 15:19

Here's the Suzuki story http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2007/Jan/070125b.htm

Here's the Yamaha story http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2007/Jan/070125a.htm

Crasherfromwayback

26th January 2007, 15:53

Yeah it's gonna be an even better season than last year!

Crasherfromwayback

27th January 2007, 09:05

http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2007/Jan/070126z.htm

Go Hopkins! I know Finn will be cheering him on!

Finn

27th January 2007, 10:25

http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2007/Jan/070126z.htm

Go Hopkins! I know Finn will be cheering him on!

It's all just media hype. You of all people should know that testing is nothing like race day. Suzuki doesn't stand a chance of the title. I'd even put money on it.

Place your bets.

Crasherfromwayback

28th January 2007, 07:31

It's all just media hype. You of all people should know that testing is nothing like race day. Suzuki doesn't stand a chance of the title. I'd even put money on it.

Place your bets.

Here's a bet for ya Finn.....

I'm willing to bet you $1000.00 (and yes I'll payup if I lose) Hopkins wins a race this year.....or if you'd rather.....The same amount he wins a world Moto GP title before he's done.

You can't lose mate...he is after all....useless right?

We can both forward the coin on to a trused KB member to hold.....

Finn

28th January 2007, 07:39

Here's a bet for ya Finn.....

I'm willing to bet you $1000.00 (and yes I'll payup if I lose) Hopkins wins a race this year.....or if you'd rather.....The same amount he wins a world Moto GP title before he's done.

You can't lose mate...he is after all....useless right?

We can both forward the coin on to a trused KB member to hold.....

I'm talking about Hopkins winning the title this year on a Suzuki. Make it $10,000 .

Crasherfromwayback

28th January 2007, 07:46

I'm talking about Hopkins winning the title this year on a Suzuki. Make it $10,000 .

Well I doubt you'll see anywhere I said he'd do that......but you on the other hand HAVE said he's useless.

So really I can't see why you'd not put your money up.....somewhere close to your mouth.....

Finn

28th January 2007, 07:52

Well I doubt you'll see anywhere I said he'd do that......but you on the other hand HAVE said he's useless.

So really I can't see why you'd not put your money up.....somewhere close to your mouth.....

I think $10,000 says enough. Chicken?

Crasherfromwayback

28th January 2007, 07:55

I think $10,000 says enough. Chicken?

Not chicken at all mate....simply don't have ten grand......

But seeing as you're so confident (and wealthy), I'm sure you'll be only too happy to take up my offer.:sunny:

The_Dover

28th January 2007, 07:58

I think $10,000 says enough. Chicken?

I'll bet you ten grand I can kick your arse around the nurburgring

Crasherfromwayback

28th January 2007, 08:09

Finn's obviously that wealthy that maybe he can shout us all there for a winner takes all?

k14

28th January 2007, 08:14

I'm willing to bet you $1000.00 (and yes I'll payup if I lose) Hopkins wins a race this year.....or if you'd rather.....The same amount he wins a world Moto GP title before he's done.
Ooooo, big call. Might be a good one though. I'd put some $$ on suzuki taking a win this year but I'd say it is more likley with that auzzie than the yank on the seat. Imo hopkins is the most over rated rider in motogp. How long has he been there now and hasn't even finished on the podium yet. Whereas vermeulen does it in his first season.

Crasherfromwayback

28th January 2007, 08:22

Ooooo, big call. Might be a good one though. I'd put some $$ on suzuki taking a win this year but I'd say it is more likley with that auzzie than the yank on the seat. Imo hopkins is the most over rated rider in motogp. How long has he been there now and hasn't even finished on the podium yet. Whereas vermeulen does it in his first season.

Mate.....Vermeulen is a wizz for sure (it's been said he's as accurate with his feedback about what the bike's doing as Eddie Lawson was)...but Hopkins is also only 23...it just seems like he's been round forever.

Hopkins is a real hard charger....and untill now, hasn't had the bike to take it to the boys.....I doubt you'll find that Revvin Kevin would've put the good word in for him if he thought that...

Hopkins has had to ride the Suzuki round corners like a man possesed to try and stay with the other bikes.....his lean angles and corner speed have been second to none....now that they've gone to the 800's they're all having to ride like that, and Hopkins has been doing it for years......he'll go well I've no doubt!

Ivan

28th January 2007, 09:34

I agree its going to be good,

But I am a fan of Vermeulen and Hayden and I think Vermeulen has a good chance this year considering he did race auzzie 250 gp he knows about the bikes cornering like that.

Hayden well I think he is going to do well again not as well as the 990 for the share fact the way he corners sideways but thats going to catch alot of guys out and then they will get used to it and slide the whole corner

Crasherfromwayback

28th January 2007, 10:10

Yeah the whole knocking them back to 800cc to make them safer thing is such a crock of shit!

I mean f*ck.....if they're going round corners 10-20k's faster than the 990's, they're only gonna fly further when they bin it......it's in the corners that they're gonna hit something solid right?

All it's done is cost the factories a shitload of money they needn't have spent......as per usual....the 'Big 'H'.....used their weight to get what they wanted. It was after all, them that wanted the whole four stroke thing in the first place. F*ck....they've been wanting to race four strokes from way back......NR 500 lost them so much face......they've been wanting to show the world ever since! And it's not as if they weren't ready and waiting to go 800 seeing as it's simply their 990 V5 with a cyl hacked off it......how convenient....hope they get roosted!

If they were serious about slowing them down....they should've simply limited them to four speed boxes or lowered the rev ceiling.

Finn

28th January 2007, 10:46

I'll bet you ten grand I can kick your arse around the nurburgring

You're on. Bring TT with you when you drop the MV off. I've got a PS2 around here somewhere.

You'll have to work the 10 grand off though.

Korea

28th January 2007, 21:58

as it's simply their 990 V5 with a cyl hacked off it......

I heard it's still a V5 - I may be wrong. Anyone confirm this?

cowpoos

28th January 2007, 22:16

I heard it's still a V5 - I may be wrong. Anyone confirm this?
its a V four

Crasherfromwayback

29th January 2007, 00:14

I heard it's still a V5 - I may be wrong. Anyone confirm this?

990 divided by five = 198

990 - 198 = 792.

What do you reckon?

slowpoke

29th January 2007, 02:50

So where does all this "ride 'em like a 250" talk originate?

I mean the things have still got over 200hp even in 800cc form, more than your average superbike, and no-one talks about riding them like a 250. Going by the table below the 800's are heavier than the 990's too (not sure about years 2005/6) so surely the same old strategy applies: get it turned as quick as you can, stand it up and feed it the fat.

I know the lower reciprocating mass is allowing higher corner speeds but I'm buggered if I can see what a 250 has got to with anything. The 800's have 100hp more and are nearly 50kg's heavier, so from someone who has ridden neither I don't understand the connection.

Minimum Weight - MotoGP Class
# of Cylinders 2004 Min 2007 Min Difference
2 Cylinder 135 kg 137 kg 2 kg
3 Cylinder 135 kg 140.5 kg 5.5 kg
4 Cylinder 145 kg 148 kg 3 kg
5 Cylinder 145 kg 155.5 kg 10.5 kg
6 Cylinder 155 kg 163 kg 8 kg

edit: buggered if I know what's happened to the table, how come the layout is all screwy when it looked ok before I saved it...?

Brian d marge

29th January 2007, 03:00

I havent heard any rumours this end and I know one or two from different factorys

Just come back from dinner with an Gp mechanic and we were talking about the same thing ..

I do know that Honda Japan are trying to rationalise its range of products, So it may be a way of cost cutting??

Just a guess there

STephen

Crasherfromwayback

29th January 2007, 06:46

So where does all this "ride 'em like a 250" talk originate?

I mean the things have still got over 200hp even in 800cc form, more than your average superbike, and no-one talks about riding them like a 250. Going by the table below the 800's are heavier than the 990's too (not sure about years 2005/6) so surely the same old strategy applies: get it turned as quick as you can, stand it up and feed it the fat.

I know the lower reciprocating mass is allowing higher corner speeds but I'm buggered if I can see what a 250 has got to with anything. The 800's have 100hp more and are nearly 50kg's heavier, so from someone who has ridden neither I don't understand the connection.

edit: buggered if I know what's happened to the table, how come the layout is all screwy when it looked ok before I saved it...?

Apart from the lighter engine internals (which allows greater cornering speeds like you say), they don't have the huge amount of torque that the 990's had....so they can't point and squirt like they used to......so to do the same lap times (or even quicker as they almost all are now) they're relying on higher cornering speeds and momentum.

cowpoos

29th January 2007, 07:17

Apart from the lighter engine internals (which allows greater cornering speeds like you say), they don't have the huge amount of torque that the 990's had....so they can't point and squirt like they used to......so to do the same lap times (or even quicker as they almost all are now) they're relying on higher cornering speeds and momentum.
and as they reach the point through the corner that they apply throttle the rear wheel is traveling at a higher speed...and physics dictate that it will take even more HP to break traction

and less reciprocating mass to slow under brakes..

Crasherfromwayback

29th January 2007, 11:13

and as they reach the point through the corner that they apply throttle the rear wheel is traveling at a higher speed...and physics dictate that it will take even more HP to break traction

and less reciprocating mass to slow under brakes..

True......looks like they stop good!

Crasherfromwayback

29th January 2007, 13:35

Is it wrong to get an erection over a disc rotor?

cowpoos

29th January 2007, 13:41

Is it wrong to get an erection over a disc rotor?
no....nothing wrong with getting a woodie over anything on a motoGP bike as long as its not the rider...

Edbear

29th January 2007, 13:48

Is it wrong to get an erection over a disc rotor?

Yes!:third:

Deano

29th January 2007, 13:54

no....nothing wrong with getting a woodie over anything on a motoGP bike as long as its not the rider...

Even when it's a Honda brake rotor........?

bistard

29th January 2007, 14:01

Is it wrong to get an erection over a disc rotor?

Pete you need to get out more!!

Crasherfromwayback

29th January 2007, 14:10

Pete you need to get out more!!

Can't mate....haven't got a licence!:scooter:

bistard

29th January 2007, 14:17

You live in Courtenay Place,just walk or crawl,if its that bad,just get a hooker to come to you,lazy prick!!

Crasherfromwayback

29th January 2007, 14:25

You live in Courtenay Place,just walk or crawl,if its that bad,just get a hooker to come to you,lazy prick!!

Good point....what IS your mum doing tonight anyway?:love:

bistard

29th January 2007, 14:31

Good point....what IS your mum doing tonight anyway?:love:

Lives in Brisbane,you probably bumped into her when you lived there,looks kinda like that thing wearing the G string,thats right your mum!!,you gave her that G string for xmas

SPman

29th January 2007, 14:36

Here's a bet for ya Finn.....

We can both forward the coin on to a trused KB member to hold.....

If you mean trussed - well - Finns no chicken

If you mean trusted - well - that rules out anyone on THIS site........unless they are, trussed!

Dover???????

Crasherfromwayback

29th January 2007, 14:40

If you mean trussed - well - Finns no chicken

If you mean trusted - well - that rules out anyone on THIS site........unless they are, trussed!

Dover???????

Yeah dunno what happened to the 't'...that's what happens when you try and speed type with two fingers I guess....looks like 'two pigeons feeding'

merv

29th January 2007, 16:21

Is it wrong to get an erection over a disc rotor?

I see you like the black boys Pete.

Crasherfromwayback

29th January 2007, 16:39

only if they're fully equipped with girly bits....

gav

29th January 2007, 18:48

Is it wrong to get an erection over a disc rotor?
That depends if you keep it under the pillow or leave it at the foot of the bed....

Couple of things, if Nicky Hayden can win a MotoGP world title with only 2 race wins, then I can't see why John Hopkins doesnt have a shot at a world title.
While Rossi might have set the fastest time at Sepang, its interesting that his team have cancelled th Philip Island test to remain at Sepang and carry on testing. Tyres are going to have a big effect this year and with Bridgstone picking up more top teams they have every chance of having an advantage over the Michelins. Interesting to read the comments by the Suzuki how important that they see, of being the top Bridgestone team and so getting the top tyres.
As far as riding the bikes like 250's this is not so much the switch to 800cc but more in the emergence of top quality engine management systems. Even last year you could see how improved they were that allowed rookies like Pedrosa and Stoner to be on the pace straight away. The bikes are actually cutting power in corners so the riders can ride similiar to a 250 with deep and fast corner entries and just pinning it mid corner. The electronics are doing so much that they are able to ride them in this way and get away with it. The systems are only getting better all the time too.

Postie

31st January 2007, 14:11

Tyres are going to have a big effect this year and with Bridgstone picking up more top teams they have every chance of having an advantage over the Michelins. Interesting to read the comments by the Suzuki how important that they see, of being the top Bridgestone team and so getting the top tyres.

and so Suzuki run into their first gremilin, the can't do corners.

The track Suzuki's appear to hold true to their road going cousins when it comes to corners.

So any Suzuki rider who has lost grip mid corner (and that has to be pretty much all of you) feel relieved to know that you are not a bad rider, its just the bikes blood line.

Ivan

31st January 2007, 14:23

I say ban traction control
Make it man and machine
The rider has to be in full control the bike slides and bucks eg 500cc 2 stroke

Everything has got so pc now: Im not taking it away from rossi the mans a legend he won without traction control but now its in it makes slow riders faster,

In my Opinion Moto GP is the class to be the king of racing you have to win this so why make it easy for the riders with traction control make it so hard that the man wins

WHO would be Rossi

JayRacer37

31st January 2007, 14:30

and so Suzuki run into their first gremilin, the can't do corners.

The track Suzuki's appear to hold true to their road going cousins when it comes to corners.

So any Suzuki rider who has lost grip mid corner (and that has to be pretty much all of you) feel relieved to know that you are not a bad rider, its just the bikes blood line.

I think the reasons the suzuki's have been strong thus far is because of there brilliant handling!! the one trump card th Suzi's had is how wel it goes round corners. By grip I would belive they are talking about exit grip..somthing the Brigie seems to struggle with. Those front Bridgestones seem pretty hot tho!! who else saw the pics of Elias with his knee, arse, elbow, peg, handlebar etc etc on the ground at Sepang???
Ivan's kinda right, wouldn't it be nice to see them riding without aids again?? But the best riders will still win, 'casue it is only an aid, its not doing th whole thing for you. It does make slower riders closer tho...which creates closer racing!! so..is it all bad??

Crasherfromwayback

31st January 2007, 14:38

I think the reasons the suzuki's have been strong thus far is because of there brilliant handling!! the one trump card th Suzi's had is how wel it goes round corners. By grip I would belive they are talking about exit grip..somthing the Brigie seems to struggle with. Those front Bridgestones seem pretty hot tho!! who else saw the pics of Elias with his knee, arse, elbow, peg, handlebar etc etc on the ground at Sepang???
Ivan's kinda right, wouldn't it be nice to see them riding without aids again?? But the best riders will still win, 'casue it is only an aid, its not doing th whole thing for you. It does make slower riders closer tho...which creates closer racing!! so..is it all bad??

Damn straight Jay.....if 'Postie' had read what Hopkins has said about the GSRV he wouldn't have 'posted' that....Postie....Posted.....sorry....

Ivan

31st January 2007, 14:44

I think the reasons the suzuki's have been strong thus far is because of there brilliant handling!! the one trump card th Suzi's had is how wel it goes round corners. By grip I would belive they are talking about exit grip..somthing the Brigie seems to struggle with. Those front Bridgestones seem pretty hot tho!! who else saw the pics of Elias with his knee, arse, elbow, peg, handlebar etc etc on the ground at Sepang???
Ivan's kinda right, wouldn't it be nice to see them riding without aids again?? But the best riders will still win, 'casue it is only an aid, its not doing th whole thing for you. It does make slower riders closer tho...which creates closer racing!! so..is it all bad??

Bring back the 500cc 2 stroke I say:shit:

But I would say that im a 2stroke freak.

Because 1 stroke isnt enough and 4 strokes is wasting 2 strokes 2 many
GO the 2 stroke

Postie

31st January 2007, 15:36

Postie

31st January 2007, 15:39

Damn straight Jay.....if 'Postie' had read what Hopkins has said about the GSRV he wouldn't have 'posted' that....Postie....Posted.....sorry....

Hook, line and sinker.

Suzuki fellas, always on the defence.

Crasherfromwayback

31st January 2007, 21:38

Hook, line and sinker.

Suzuki fellas, always on the defence.

That's right!

Here's a picture of Hopkins's Suzuki handling badly......and like I've said several times....Hopkins is well used to having to ride his Suzuki like this!

Finn......how 'bout that $1000.00 bet mate?:moon:

Crasherfromwayback

31st January 2007, 21:42

Better have said picture then...

Finn

31st January 2007, 22:09

Finn......how 'bout that $1000.00 bet mate?:moon:

You're on and just so we're clear, you're saying Hopkins will win the 07 MotoGP on a Suzuki? This will be easy money. Can I have it know?

JayRacer37

31st January 2007, 22:20

[QUOTE=JayRacer37;918009]Those front Bridgestones seem pretty hot tho!! who else saw the pics of Elias with his knee, arse, elbow, peg, handlebar etc etc on the ground at Sepang???
QUOTE]

similar to this?

HAHAHA yeap, that'll do nicely, shame its Capirex rather than Elias eh?? Still, go the old boy!! Just like Frankie, only far more famous and less prone to waving fingers in Englishmens face's whilst wearing a dressing gown over somthing said englishman didn't do...not that he hadn't before.....:rockon:

Crasherfromwayback

1st February 2007, 07:01

That's great but its actually got to finish a full race without shitting itself. They'll also have to get some decent riders.

Race day will be a different story.

Edit: That Honda sure is a good looking bike.

Chris Vermuelen isn't on solids yet and who?

Shhhh everybody, the village idiot is trying to communicate.

And on the racing front, I may just know a thing or two. Ask Sensei, he knows my real identity. Be prepared to remove your 6 toe foot from your mouth.

Here's a bet for ya Finn.....

I'm willing to bet you $1000.00 (and yes I'll payup if I lose) Hopkins wins a race this year.....or if you'd rather.....The same amount he wins a world Moto GP title before he's done.

You can't lose mate...he is after all....useless right?

We can both forward the coin on to a trusted KB member to hold.....

Here was my offer Finn......you in our out?

Finn

1st February 2007, 07:06

Here was my offer Finn......you in our out?

You're back peddling. The thread is about MotoGP 07, not once race. To clarify, Suzuki don't stand a chance at the title in 07.

Crasherfromwayback

1st February 2007, 07:24

You're back peddling. The thread is about MotoGP 07, not once race. To clarify, Suzuki don't stand a chance at the title in 07.

I'm not back peddling mate.......I took you to task over the skill of Hopkins.
So it appears you're the one in reverse....

Finn

1st February 2007, 08:50

I'm not back peddling mate.......I took you to task over the skill of Hopkins.
So it appears you're the one in reverse....

Don't try your car sale tactics on me mate.

Crasherfromwayback

1st February 2007, 09:08

Too late....:scooter:

Ivan

1st February 2007, 09:23

So crashers getting $1000 im guessing as FIn seems to backing out of it

Postie

1st February 2007, 09:31

John Hopkins need's shoulder sliders, I haven't seen many people lean a bike like him. Still I am willing to bet that neither Vermeulen or Hopkins wins a race this year, I'm not saying the bikes are bad, becuase they have already been pretty fast and I'm not saying the riders are bad, there is not a single bad rider in the MotoGP, just based on Suzuki's overall performance last year, with the exception of Chris Vermeulen in Phillip Island, the whole package is just not up to the standard of the front runners and with a whole new bike for the team to get used to, I find it unlikley that they will get a race win.

I think that both riders are very talented, but Hopkins has not done anything impressive in the motoGP yet, since 2002 when he started, his best ever finish was 4th. He was outclassed last year by the tiny Danni Pedrossa and baby face Casey Stoner in their first year on a GP bike. Myabe John Hopkins just isn't cut out for the GP bike.

Finn

1st February 2007, 09:50

So crashers getting $1000 im guessing as FIn seems to backing out of it

Incorrect Ivan from Featherstone. I said Hopkins / Suzuki doesn't stand a chance at the title, which it doesn't.

Ivan

1st February 2007, 10:11

Incorrect Ivan from Featherstone. I said Hopkins / Suzuki doesn't stand a chance at the title, which it doesn't.

Its Featherston not Featherstone
Suzuki DOes stand a real good chance at winning the title im sure of it

Crasherfromwayback

1st February 2007, 10:12

Incorrect Ivan from Featherstone. I said Hopkins / Suzuki doesn't stand a chance at the title, which it doesn't.

It's only after telling you us all how useless Hopkins is, and me telling you you're full of shit that you changed course......and decided it was about Hopkins winning Moto GP this year.....which I never said he'd do THIS year.

Seems you're the one with the old change of tune trick.

Finn

1st February 2007, 10:18

It's only after telling you us all how useless Hopkins is, and me telling you you're full of shit that you changed course......and decided it was about Hopkins winning Moto GP this year.....which I never said he'd do THIS year.

Seems you're the one with the old change of tune trick.

Read my post #31 then apologise.

And get out from behind the counter and go serve some customers!

Finn

1st February 2007, 10:19

Its Featherston not Featherstone
Suzuki DOes stand a real good chance at winning the title im sure of it

I spelt it like that on purpose. I've been there once you know.

Crasherfromwayback

1st February 2007, 10:20

Read my post #31 then apologise.

And get out from behind the counter and go serve some customers!

You are a customer.....when you pay!

k14

1st February 2007, 10:26

Its Featherston not Featherstone
Woah, whats the world coming to when Ivan is correcting someone else's' spelling? Hmm, maybe its even an oxymoron?

gav

1st February 2007, 20:10

WTF? Alex Barros fastest at Phillip Island? Wonder what Troy Bayliss must be thinking sitting at home.....

merv

1st February 2007, 20:53

Ok I've said before preseason testing won't mean much once the first race gets underway.

The Phillip Island tests drew to a close with Hayden fastest at 1.29.52, Pedrosa second at 1.29.72 then a whole bunch of Ducatis and then the Suzukis with Vermuelen 9th at 1.30.72 and Hopkins 11th at 1.30.80.

All the factories will be working for improvements and Honda won't be sitting round resting on their laurels so whoop de doo now the Suzukis don't look so hot.

Rossi wasn't even there so does that mean Hayden is fastest? Who knows. Wait for the first race. Will Finn win the money? I don't know I'm not a betting man.

Crasherfromwayback

1st February 2007, 23:30

Ok I've said before preseason testing won't mean much once the first race gets underway.

so whoop de doo now the Suzukis don't look so hot.

Rossi wasn't even there so does that mean Hayden is fastest? Who knows. Wait for the first race. Will Finn win the money? I don't know I'm not a betting man.

What it means Merv....is that the Ducati works REAL well there, the Suzuki's have always struggled there, and Rossi and his team know they go well there so have decided to forgo the test there and go to Sepang again where they struggled this time. Forget that with a qualifier on he beat Hopkin's time. They weren't in the hunt all test, time wise on race rubber.

So what we have this year.....is Bridgestone with as many (if not more) teams as Michelin providing them feedback, with more and more tracks they now have good results at......and teams like Suzuki, Ducati, Kawasaki and even some Honda teams coming at Michelin. Japanese tyres......who's gonna get the most help in having tyres made specifically for them? Suzuki? Yep.

Crasherfromwayback

2nd February 2007, 08:27

the Suzukis don't look so hot.

And seeing as you're a bit of a Honda Boy.....I thought you might like this wee pic....even though it's not a GP bike......it's still one sexy MoFo of a bike!
Probably one of THE sexiest I've seen in a while....

merv

2nd February 2007, 12:13

Presumably DuHamel's bike?

Ivan

2nd February 2007, 12:39

Thats one nice looking bike,
Great to see ALex Barros doing well, he is a toprider that SBK race win of his was marvelous. All he wants is to win a world championship before he ritires, i still think Vermuelen and Hopkins being so young have a great future ahead of them, BOth possibly WOrld Championship winners Vermulen allready has a World Super Sport title now he needs Moto GP

Crasherfromwayback

3rd February 2007, 01:37

Presumably DuHamel's bike?

Aye......and here's Finn's mate again!

And Elias.....lean angle?

Crasherfromwayback

3rd February 2007, 01:39

Presumably DuHamel's bike?

Aye....well sexy bike!

Here's Finn's mate again....and Elias......lean angle? Not bad....

Kyle

4th February 2007, 10:31

Hmm interesting thread, lots of hot air, but some worthy comments too.
Those pictures are cool, im loving the honda, kawa and yamis looks, especially the small tails.
That brake disc rotor looks like its made out of carbon or something? and wow look at the other detail, all the nuts and bolts are nothing like a road model.
Id back Honda to take the title because i want them too, 1st 2nd and 3rd this time!, but maybe ducati`s frolicking snowbunnys can do it, or yamaha because that rossi guy rides one, but were talking about all new bikes, anything could happen yet. Its the young guns that havnt crashed much yet that you have to watch out for.
From a racers point of view rather than a spectator, id have to say if those guys are heading towards bridgestones camp, and the rest are with michilen (sp), then maybe i should be getting some of those tyres. And where can i get one of those sexy bums for my bike?