Complaint from Suzuki Corp about my SV site [Archive]

SpankMe

18th January 2007, 18:22

Grahameeboy

18th January 2007, 18:23

Just don't respond..............best way.

What is the site address by the way?

SpankMe

18th January 2007, 18:27

www.sv-portal.com

Biff

18th January 2007, 18:28

Tell them to fk off, remove their logos from your site, then tell them to fk off again.

You using their logo is the only thing they have on you. If they could be arsed to pursue you that is.

Jantar

18th January 2007, 18:32

I've had a quick look... Where's the pornography? :innocent:

Clivoris

18th January 2007, 18:40

You must remove it immediately!!!! I can look after it until you can find somewhere more appropriate. No trouble at all mate.:rofl:
The fucked up retards. Why dont they save their energy for trying to remove that fucked up prick G W Bush?:tugger:

yungatart

18th January 2007, 18:44

Hah! Americans playing the moral high ground!! They should sort out their own back yard before they come over here telling you what to do.
Ignore them! If it wasn't so laughable it would be funny!

Steam

18th January 2007, 18:49

Isn't the USA the biggest producer and consumer of pornograpy in the world?
I read somewhere the US porn industry produces more hours of porn video than every other country put together. Maybe they include home movies in that.

MSTRS

18th January 2007, 18:52

While you are telling them to fuck off, perhaps you can instruct them in proper spelling....ass is a donkey!

Squeak the Rat

18th January 2007, 19:04

Put this letter on the homepage with a really smutty photo under it. Reply to suzuki that you've done as they asked..... :lol: That'll fuck em off.

NordieBoy

18th January 2007, 19:08

Maybe it's Spank's avatar that's getting them.... excited.

pervert

18th January 2007, 19:10

Maybe it's just the Orientals they take offence to; try changing the girls to hot whiteys. :laugh:

SixPackBack

18th January 2007, 19:10

http://www.gixxer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=125586

onearmedbandit

18th January 2007, 19:23

For those that are not a member of gixxer.com

R6_kid

18th January 2007, 19:25

just say that the images were all submitted by site members that ride SV's, and that if they wish you will remove the members from their brand rather than their brandings from your site.

SpankMe

18th January 2007, 19:26

http://www.gixxer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=125586

Might wonna addd the SV site thread (http://www.sv-portal.com/forums/showthread.php?t=23940) SixPackBack.

onearmedbandit

18th January 2007, 19:28

And how dare you call SpankMe a 'gentleman'. Do you know how hard he has worked to shake that title?

TonyB

18th January 2007, 19:39

Is it possible to use the 'adult content' feature so that only registered members who have enabled the 'show me the porn' feature can see it? That should keep Suzuki and their lawyers happy.

El Dopa

18th January 2007, 19:47

American Suzuki has an issue....blah blah blah.....

Glenn Hansen
American Suzuki Motor Corporation

Looking for an appropriate response to tell them to shove their fucked up morels up their arse.

Dear Glans,

My website is not hosted on a US server/I have moved my website to a non-US hosted server (delete as appropriate).

American Suzuki therefore has no juristiction. So why don't you go and get fucked? It might help you loosen up.

Yours respectfully,

Spank

SixPackBack

18th January 2007, 19:48

And how dare you call SpankMe a 'gentleman'. Do you know how hard he has worked to shake that title?

He's O.K by me onearmedbandit and does not deserve the shite from pencil pushing tossers in their corporate play pen.

Not only does his sv portal promote Suzuki, but the man currently rides a Suzuki. But he likes porn?....so fucken what!:whocares:

[Link updated]

Fatjim

18th January 2007, 20:03

Maybe a little over the top, but in a small way they have a point.

I'm sure Spankme wouldn't mind KB being linked/logo displayed from a Bangkok underage brothel's webpage.

You can say it's the internet, and you can do anything you like, and if you put your picture on the internet it's far game etc ...... But the mature thing is be a little considerate. Having said that, Suzuki are way outa line on this one, it's not is if Spankme's peddling porn, it's just a little free speech.

SpankMe

18th January 2007, 20:06

I'm sure Spankme wouldn't mind KB being linked/logo displayed from a Bangkok underage brothel's webpage.

How far underage? and whats the URL? :p

Krusti

18th January 2007, 20:39

Cause SV's are porn/smutt and no one should have to look at them let alone ride the dirty smutty things.

The problem is half you people get all horny and excited looking at SV pics and next thing you will go out and jump on a respectable Kawasaki and root it!

Ban the SV ... the world will be a better place....:dodge:

GIXser

18th January 2007, 21:06

Hello,

American Suzuki has an issue with the content of your site here. Even though I believe that most viewers of this site know that the American Suzuki Motor Corporation is not affiliated with this site, you do use our product logos and focus on our motorcycles. In that regard, we ask you to remove the inappropriate and offensive content that is on the homepage currently.

This type of pornography does nothing but damage the image of motorcyclists, and of Suzuki motorcycles. Please remove this vulgar content from your site's homepage immediately, and if you desire to continue showcasing pornography, place it in a well guarded and age-appropriate venue.

Glenn Hansen
American Suzuki Motor Corporation

Looking for an appropriate response to tell them to shove their fucked up morels up their arse.

fuck em!!!! its called freedom of speech check the first amendment, they fucken invented it-- ya could post Glenn Hansen (AKA the Saint) email address, then we can all tell em what we think... ps "our motorcycles", fucken incorrect Glennis" i paid for mine.. it belongs to me ,and not some fucken jap!!!
Go and have a "mastie Glennis"!!

(yeah yeah i know i get carried away sometimes...)

Busy

18th January 2007, 21:12

Check the headers of the email, I'd put money on it not coming from them but one of your rivals - happens all the time.

Ixion

18th January 2007, 21:46

We gotta lotta geeks. U want us to DoS their site? Tell the bastidges that we r kiwis and they r Yanks , n they would not no a proper bike if it nit theire arse.

SpankMe

18th January 2007, 21:48

Check the headers of the email, I'd put money on it not coming from them but one of your rivals - happens all the time.

It was sent via the site contact link so I guess it could have been anybody.

Who ever it was, they can peddle their sexually repressed religious upbringing somewhere else.

James Deuce

18th January 2007, 21:51

Make sure you spell morals right.

That's all I ask.

Oh, and the opportunity to drive some morals home with a lump of 4"x2" with a 9" nail through the end.

Ta.

Steam

18th January 2007, 21:52

Talking of rather nice animated Gif's, does anyone have any links to a collection of said "adult" gifs? No need to post it here, you can PM me.

Chickadee

18th January 2007, 22:03

...............Ah bugger - I'm logged in as my wife...where's the delete post button gone?

GIXser

18th January 2007, 22:03

Make sure you spell morals right.

That's all I ask.

Oh, and the opportunity to drive some morals home with a lump of 4"x2" with a 9" nail through the end.

Ta.

Firken hell JIM2 did you fall into a coma on top of your "Post/Reply key"

the man has 9000 posts,,( i need to spend more time online,,,)

James Deuce

18th January 2007, 22:14

I've been here a while and I'm still waiting for the blowjob American Suzuki promised me.

The_Dover

18th January 2007, 22:17

I think you're disgusting SpankMe and you're going straight to hell to ride a honda for all eternity.

In Quasimoto leathers.

TerminalAddict

18th January 2007, 22:18

I resemble that remark !!!!

but i was fucken funny all the same .. .bling !!!

SpankMe

18th January 2007, 22:21

I think you're disgusting SpankMe and you're going straight to hell to ride a honda for all eternity.

In Quasimoto leathers.

But I already ride a Honda.

The_Dover

18th January 2007, 22:22

that would explain the sickness

Deviant Esq

19th January 2007, 01:43

Talking of rather nice animated Gif's, does anyone have any links to a collection of said "adult" gifs? No need to post it here, you can PM me.

*Jumps on the bandwagon*

:innocent:

Lou Girardin

19th January 2007, 05:42

They're right, get rid of the "porn" and replace it with decent pics of dismembered 5 year old Iraqi terrorists.

Mr. Peanut

19th January 2007, 06:33

I think you're disgusting SpankMe and you're going straight to hell to ride a honda for all eternity.

In Quasimoto leathers.

:eek: Cunt!

dawnrazor

19th January 2007, 07:16

just swap your avatars around, I'm tired of looking up that girls shirt, no matter how long I stare she never takes the the damn thing off...tease

ahem....apart from that, they can only 'do you' for use of their logos without their consent, which they may well do if this is some global mission to clean up suzuki san image, 'cus of some incident in a japanese parlor of happy happy joy joy, that hasn't made it through to the western press...:gob:

If you really feel strongly about it, you could always send them back the 750 :shutup:

Finn

19th January 2007, 07:19

Tell them to fk off, remove their logos from your site, then tell them to fk off again.

It's not their logo. It's Suzuki's of Japan and we all know the Jap's like a bit of hows your father. At least it's one of their own too.

RantyDave

19th January 2007, 07:37

In that regard, we ask you to remove the inappropriate and offensive content that is on the homepage currently.
I actually think they sort of have a point. It's someone in Suzuki's job to ensure their image (they spent a fortune on) is associated with things other than (say) an animated gif of a woman rubbing her tits in some guys face. Given the shit that rolls down from Apple's lawyers I think their response is quite restrained ... although it would have been better had they said "specifically the bit with the tits".

Dave

Hitcher

19th January 2007, 07:48

I may be obtuse, but what's the go with "American" Suzuki? Aren't they just an operating division of Suzuki Suzuki?

And what authority does Mr Hansen have anyway? Tell him you resent him calling himself after your favourite rock band, and his actions bring their legacy into disrepute, particularly when connected with the name "Glen" that implies carnal knowledge of a woman's nether regions. He must immediately desist.

imdying

19th January 2007, 07:59

Might wonna addd the SV site thread (http://www.sv-portal.com/forums/showthread.php?t=23940) SixPackBack.

I've added my 2c to the thread SpankMe, please do consider it.

ManDownUnder

19th January 2007, 08:03

1) Ask Mr Moral guidance for confirmation that he speaks for Suzuki globally. If not have him suggest a way limiting exposure to the images for those in the region(s) he does represent.

2) Make a condition of signing up/looging in that the user certifies they are over 18 blah blah blah...

3) Place a statement in there confirming the images contained herein are in no way endosed by Suzuki etc. Have him put it past his legal people and get back to you. The on that response, raise a few questions, alter a few words and send it back. The legal dept will love that - keep them busy for a while and all at Mr Moral's department's expense.

All in all - you have a shit show of actually winning this fight.

Edit - do you actually have contact details for this guy? I.e. can you validate the complaint actualy came from Suzuki US or is it spoofed. Might be a good thing to check.

aff-man

19th January 2007, 08:52

hmmmm yeh would be interesting to see if this actually came from "suzuki america"

I don't suppose you could track the IP address the contact message came from??

Now as someone mentioned before, I don't quite understand what authority suziki america have if they are just a branch of the head office in japan??

Maybe send an email to the head office informing them of glenis's email and how it violates freedom of speech bla bla bla or something to that affect. And possibly get a whole lot of people to send emails to the head office. See just how long Glenis keeps his job.

Unfortunatly you'd need to find out if it's real or just a hoax first

aff-man

19th January 2007, 08:57

from thier website

Copyright/Trademark Ownership
This site © American Suzuki Motor Corporation (ASMC). You may use the information, text or graphics contained in this site only for your personal use and may not reproduce, adapt or publish it, in whole or in part, for any purpose without the express written consent of Suzuki Motor Corporation (SMC) or ASMC. The Suzuki mark and design are registered trademarks of SMC, and are used by license agreement with ASMC. The Suzuki mark and design may not be used, downloaded, copied or distributed in any way without the express written consent of SMC or ASMC. Certain images are provided by eVox Productions, LLC. These images are ©, eVox Productions, LLC. 2003-2004. All rights reserved.

so swing an email off to the suzuki head office and ask if ya can use thier logo. If they say yes then american suzuki can't say or do shit.

scumdog

19th January 2007, 09:00

[I]Hello,

Looking for an appropriate response to tell them to shove their fucked up morels up their arse.

It's 'morals', their fucked up MORALS, can't be letting them think somebody abusing their logo can't spell eh?

ManDownUnder

19th January 2007, 09:09

We certainly did not ok this use of our logo for their shirts. :angry2: Small graphic ok, but not for shirt sale (http://www.socalsvriders.com/shop/). :angry2:

Looking for immediate legal advice on sending a cease and desist email to them :argh:

Interesting - this seems to be the same problem you had Spank - a while back, but with other using the KB logo in an inapproriate way. Surely this is just the same issue from the other side of the fence?

That being said...

Irrespective of which branch or jurisdiction etc - usage of intellectual property is a touchy subject to all. Suzuki have spent a lot of time and money associating their brand with a number of things - they don;t want it diluted with other things, and are legally obliged to act upon anything illegal (i.e. something that's theirs, associated with under 18 access to pron).

Picture this - it hits the US Court system, some kids been whacking off to the pics on the Suzuki site then goes nuts - gets his bike (a Suzuki) and commits the heinous crime of speeding only to be involved in a fatal accident.

Thge lawsuit starts and the prosecuting lawyer is paid on a percentage of damages. So they chase the money. Who can they blame?

THE INTERNET? No... the SV site - maybe but I doubt there's enough there to keep the partner at the law firm in Porches for more than a week.

SUZUKI CORPORATION. YOU BEAUTY.

Questions
1) Did Suzuki know this site existed (Yes)
2) Did they know their brand was peddling porn - that very porn than drove poor Jimmy into a cum depleted state of mental instability such that he went out and killed himself - on Suzuki's very product! (yes)

So Suzuki knowing allowed this situation to exist, resulting in the death of this child and now blah blah blah

Sue for $10m... give or take.

davereid

19th January 2007, 09:56

Its only the trademarks they can complain about. So you can show a PICTURE of a suzuki, but not just the logo. So, ignore it until you get a letter - not an email, from someone who can actually do something about it. ie an NZ based trade mark lawyer. Then piss em around to ensure they get to pay lots in legal fees, then pull the trademarked stuff off.

Of course if you are VERY GOOD at HTML & PHP programming you may be able to use frames to display parts of THEIR site on yours. Just the logos of course...

Edbear

19th January 2007, 10:05

It's 'morals', their fucked up MORALS, can't be letting them think somebody abusing their logo can't spell eh?

Maybe he meant the mushrooms...?

Swoop

19th January 2007, 14:56

Dear suzuki america,

Thank you for your email.
We note that you are not a member of this site. Do you ride a suzuki?

Your request has been forwarded to our complaints department and you will be contacted when we have discussed the issues that you have raised.

Thank you and have a nice day, etc, etc.

Translation:
You are not a member so fuck off.
Our complaints department rarely meet and couldn't give a toss about your whiney arse problems. If it is that big a deal, why didn't the "real" suzuki complain???
Who do we bill for the free advertising of your products?

jrandom

19th January 2007, 15:28

A true corporate drone would have included meatspace contact details in the email.

Google tells me that Glenn Hansen is indeed 'Communications Manager for American Suzuki Motor Corporation', but then again, all that that proves is that the practical joker who wrote the email is just as good as me at driving Google.

I'd just ignore it.

If it really is the real Mr Hansen, and he's not just randomly trying to throw his weight around, you'll eventually get a lawyer's letter to the registered address for the domain, probably cc'd to your hosting company.

Dime to a dollar that never happens, though. Might do if the issue was abuse of IP vis-a-vis logos and shit, but if that's not in question, pfft. They can fuck off and die.

I like it when corporate drones fuck off and die.

It makes me feel warm and happy on the inside.

:)

The Stranger

19th January 2007, 16:04

Hello,

American Suzuki has an issue with the content of your site here. Even though I believe that most viewers of this site know that the American Suzuki Motor Corporation is not affiliated with this site, you do use our product logos and focus on our motorcycles. In that regard, we ask you to remove the inappropriate and offensive content that is on the homepage currently.

This type of pornography does nothing but damage the image of motorcyclists, and of Suzuki motorcycles. Please remove this vulgar content from your site's homepage immediately, and if you desire to continue showcasing pornography, place it in a well guarded and age-appropriate venue.

Glenn Hansen
American Suzuki Motor Corporation

Looking for an appropriate response to tell them to shove their fucked up morels up their arse.

Point out how unsafe motorcycles are and enquire how, given their high morals they can knowingly sell these death traps to an unsuspecting innocent public.

Could go further and compare them to the tobacco companies whom also knowingly produce goods designed to kill and maim and ask him how does he sleep at nights.

Does anyone have a copy of the Herald article which was published late last year or very early this year pointing out how constructive freely available internet pornography is? In the article it pointed out that as the the availability of porn increased the incidence of rape decreased etc etc.

Include a copy of this article and point out that you on the other hand are constructively enhancing the quality of life in America whilst their death traps and having the opposite effect.

V4ME

19th January 2007, 16:28

AAARRHH - And I was just really starting to enjoy my SV ...
:angry: :angry:

NinjaNanna

19th January 2007, 16:33

GIXser

19th January 2007, 19:38

I think you're disgusting SpankMe and you're going straight to hell to ride a honda for all eternity.

In Quasimoto leathers.

What ...like Boomer????

GIXser

19th January 2007, 19:47

Thank You SpankMe for the restraint you have shown on KB allowing me to choose not to see the pornographic images people use on this site.

I ask why don't you extend the same courtesy to your SV site. Personally I think that the "censored avatar pic" is likely to entice such people to actually register on your site.

Personally I am not offended by your avatar but given the choice to see or not to see, I choose "no". I don't think my wife would be so happy if my daughter was sitting on my knee whilst I surf with that avatar demanding attention

Realistically in the end it is your choice what you do.

My two cents

Sorry i could not help myself for replying..

dont have your daughter sitting on your knee whilst surfing the net, or watching tv, or reading a mag of any sort ,
because porn is everywhere-- like it or not,
my daughter does not go on the net for that reason, (the other reason is so i can keep all the porn to myself)

also, whats ya wife got to do with it,?? shouldnt she be in the kitchen with a ball gag on....:yes:

(just kidding in case ya take it seriously..)

my 2 cents

madboy

19th January 2007, 22:28

Tell them you're really sorry, but you don't know how the nuts and bolts of the site work. It was designed by your cousin Osama and his bud Saddam. Sadly Saddam's not around anymore, and Osama is living out of cellular coverage. But you're going to visit their chum Sheik soon and you'll get him to give you instructions on how to pull the images.

Being American I'm sure they'll be accommodating.

ZeroIndex

20th January 2007, 02:49

did you write a Disclaimer saying it's not affiliated with Suzuki Motorcycles International?

kels

20th January 2007, 04:34

Wow how very cool that you have those wanks (ooops typo) yanks looking at your web page Spank!

Lissa

20th January 2007, 08:10

I read that email but didnt post.... its been bugging me, it doesnt seem to be written very professionally, and Greg Hanson would of course put his title at the end of the email. (also googled it.. he is communications manager).

Skyryder

20th January 2007, 09:54

The first thing I'd query is 'What porn?' Some guy getting guy whacked by a pair of tits? Hardly porn in my books. I'd just call it a bit of 'tank slapping.'

Skyryder

V4ME

20th January 2007, 10:31

I agree - and I'm concerned - What Porn!! - I havent seen any - and I'm a registered user!!

:shit:

Pixie

20th January 2007, 22:19

[I]
Looking for an appropriate response to tell them to shove their fucked up morels up their arse.

The pic is of a morel.A fungus of a strangely appropriate shape for such a purpose.

Clockwork

21st January 2007, 07:07

I guess we can rest assured that Suzuki would never use sex appeal to sell any of their products then. :innocent:

Lou Girardin

21st January 2007, 20:21

I guess we can rest assured that Suzuki would never use sex appeal to sell any of their products then. :innocent:

No, their owners have more than enough.

oldrider

21st January 2007, 21:30

Well I just had a look and I am disgusted! :shit:

I am so upset by the vulgarity of your webb site that I am now going to buy a Suzuki just so that I can suck up to those nice purists who have complained. :yes:
You have been very naughty boy. :nono:

Keep it up, Cheers John.

Ixion

21st January 2007, 21:35

I understand that Maurice entirely agrees with SuzUSA, and considers you should ditch those pictures of women, and put up some more appropriate to Suzuki riders.:devil2: He has some shots of his "special friends" if you would like to use them. Very "artistic", nudge nudge know wot I mean (No I don't know if Dover is in them). That should satisfy SuzUSA, no more pictures of women.

Storm

21st January 2007, 21:39

I dunno if thats the go Ixion. Spank wants people on his site, not a vacant lot with tumbleweed bouncing about the place

terbang

22nd January 2007, 07:19

I'd take it as a compliment if the yanks complained about my site..

Finn

22nd January 2007, 07:33

So Suzuki doesn't use sex in advertising?

www.suzukifilms.com

PuppetMaster

22nd January 2007, 09:28

Spank, if it wasnt an email and they used your website reply/enquiry page, you must have the IP address logged.
Just do a Whois and check the ISP details. I bet you $100 it isnt from Suzuki. You would expect a manager from Suzuki to email you directly using his official Suzuki mailbox.

**waits for his $100 in the post......