2007 Norton rotary for TT

[jonbuoy]

http://www.realclassic.co.uk/norton06120100.html

[Jantar]

Could Norton sell 150 road versions of the NRV 588? I think so.
Well I know that at least one would sell in New Zealand. :yes:

That would be so good parked next to the RE5.

[thehollowmen]

Well I know that at least one would sell in New Zealand. :yes:

That would be so good parked next to the RE5.

Make that two
I'd shell out for the future beauty

[The Pastor]

More hp that kgs :)

[slowpoke]

Why is it that something that is beautifully engineered has no conventional aesthetic value but somehow looks beautiful in a way you can't explain?

Lucky I haven't got kids, I'd sell 'em to the slave traders to get my trembling mits on one of these!

[hurricane_r]

holy sh*t, i love wankels, this thing is a beast

[Deviant Esq]

Wonder what it sounds like? Would love to be at a race event and hear one of those screaming past. Awesome stuff. :sunny:

[N4CR]

amazing.... a true work of engineering and beauty.

and since i can't post attachments anymore i cant post the wonderful norton re5 rotary mp3 i have. how sad. ****wits. :nono:

[Edbear]

Lucky I haven't got kids, I'd sell 'em to the slave traders to get my trembling mits on one of these!



My kids would probably want to sell me....:yes:


Hey Suan! See if you can cadge a ride while you're over there and let us know what it's like...?:rockon:

[nudemetalz]

I remember watching the TT on TV back in the 90's and it had nearly a lap aboard the Norton. What a sound !!! Imagine an extra loud RX7 pulling lots more revs !!!

[Juan]

Interesting....... Should be good, remember Hizzy wining on the White Charger.... what a noise...

Also MV back with Martin Finnegan ....

And Rutter back on the Kawasaki...

McGuiness on HM Plant Honda

www.iomtt.com for details

Not too long now... we even have Madness and The Stranglers performing in our town

http://www.peelbayfestival.streetheritageevents.com/

Oh it's going to be a big party...i'm on holiday for TWO weeks..... Yahoo:rockon:

[jonbuoy]

Would be nice to hear one going flat out, hope they make it into a road going version.

[nudemetalz]

Not too long now... we even have Madness and The Stranglers performing in our town

http://www.peelbayfestival.streetheritageevents.com/

Oh it's going to be a big party...i'm on holiday for TWO weeks..... Yahoo:rockon:

"....Our house..in the middle of the street,...our house...."
Oh, I remember Madness !!!

That IOM should be one to remember, I'm so jealous !!

[Juan]

"....Our house..in the middle of the street,...our house...."
Oh, I remember Madness !!!

That IOM should be one to remember, I'm so jealous !!

It's a five min walk to the festival site from our new house..... moving shortly............. remember?????? not sure i'll remember much!!!!:Punk:

[vifferman]

That is SO kewl!

Two things that struck me about the article. This first is that it is 'fly by wire'. Uh-oh... I hope the electronics aren't made by Lucas, The Prince of Darkness. :shit:
Secondly, the zorsts are made from inconel, as "rotaries' exhausts are too hot for titanium". Zounds!

[bistard]

Yes,a very cool bit of kit,I remember the flames from the old bike on overrun,
Fantastic!!
I wonder who would ride it??

[Swoop]

That is one VERY sexy looking bike!
Manual shutoff override on the electronic throttle? They have plenty of confidence in the electronics then?
I guess it could be worse, the Italians could have supplied the electronic componentry:shit:

"....Our house..in the middle of the street,...our house...."
Oh, I remember Madness !!!
Just love the building advert on recently with that tune! Close the eyes and enjoy the sounds!!!

[JayRacer37]

so, Steve Spray to ride it. That'll be one to watch, he certainly knew his way around the Norton Rotary's of old.

So the NRV588 should either be compared to an 1176cc four stroke twin....

If this is the case, conveniently fits under the SBK rules Ducati wants to adopt re 1200 twins....now THAT would be one to watch...

[cowpoos]

so, Steve Spray to ride it. That'll be one to watch, he certainly knew his way around the Norton Rotary's of old.

So the NRV588 should either be compared to an 1176cc four stroke twin....

If this is the case, conveniently fits under the SBK rules Ducati wants to adopt re 1200 twins....now THAT would be one to watch...
it would hav traction isusse at high revs dude....I doubt it would be much good in wsbk...three power pulses per crankshaft reviloution...it would wheel spin like a bitch!! the older ones didn't make as much power..but if the wsbk version came to the track it would hav to hav compeditive HP so would be 200-210hp...it would just hav to much holding it back from being compeditive...still be good to see...and I'ld love to be proven wrong...

[JayRacer37]

it would hav traction isusse at high revs dude....I doubt it would be much good in wsbk...three power pulses per crankshaft reviloution...it would wheel spin like a bitch!! the older ones didn't make as much power..but if the wsbk version came to the track it would hav to hav compeditive HP so would be 200-210hp...it would just hav to much holding it back from being compeditive...still be good to see...and I'ld love to be proven wrong...

Yes, true. But then sometimes 'big-bang' isn't always the best way. Two-strokes are brilliant to ride on the track due to their very quick and neutral throttle pick-up, 'cause there firing more often. Mick Doohan wrecked Max Biaggi and Alex Criville's careers when he got the 'screamer' format back from the big bang, and HRC wouldn't allow Biaggi and Criville to have a supposedly harder to ride and more snappy screamer. they thought that the screamer had more top end etc etc. Mick said later it was just to screw with them, there was no real diffrence in between them, since tyre technology caught up from the early '90's!! Maybe it could happen...definitly be a diffrent noise in WSB!

[avgas]

That is awesome news - i hope they go productions. Would love to see a test between that and the daytona 675

[calmone]

Feb 2,3,4, Pukekohe Classic Festival TT Spectacular . A Norton 588 Rotary (third version) from the Birmingham National Motorcycle Museum will be ridden by Steve Spray. The meeting this year is celebrating 100 years of Isle of Man racing with a lot of UK bikes being shipped over for the weekend.
If like me you cant make IOM get to Puke

[oldguy]

Would be nice to hear one going flat out, hope they make it into a road going version.

Check this link got some good old clips, need (RealPlayer)

http://www.jpsnorton.com/videoclips.asp

[desmo dave]

the Italians could have supplied the electronic componentry. i havent had any electrics crap out in over 20 years of italian bikes. may be i'm lucky.... hang on there has been a few batterys but they were jap. best music played at the TT have been hailwood on a ducati, and the mighty Britten V1000. better not forget the Mv's.

[IkeKrull]

Cooling will be the biggest issue, modern ceramics have pretty much taken care of core engine reliability during race conditions (the 1991 787B won the 24hr Le Mans race with a practically flat power delivery curve and almost no engine wear visible on post-race disassembly) and the naturally good balance of the design means that power delivery is smooth - the torque curve on rotary is pretty much a straight line - the faster it revs, the more torque is produced. But still, overheat a rotary and it is going to die.

Get the cooling to be foolproof and the bike will run, and possibly win races. Mess it up (and due to the shape of the combustion chamber, and the fact the rotors revolve 'in the middle' of the housings - its easier said than done to cool a rotary without lots of extra weight and complexity) and they'll be breaking down every race.

Theres a 50cc gokart rotary producing ~40-50hp - The AIXRO XR50. I've never heard of a 50hp 50cc 2-stroke, let alone anything like that from a 4-stroke.

http://www.nova-racing.com/nova_gb/index.htm

That would make an interesting transplant for the old street magic.

Scale that power/displacement ratio up to 588cc (obviously unfeasible as its not a linear relationship, but still...) and Norton could be onto something.

Theres also rotamax (rotamax.net) who are developing a single-rotor 150cc unit, that given some serious tuning might make a decent bike power plant, but i'm not sure when that will actually appear.


I'd love to see the rotary used in bikes again - Go Norton!

[IkeKrull]

doh, it seems the XR50 engine actually displaces 250cc. Respectable, but not so impressive. Doesn't require a gearbox to drive a go-kart though, which is interesting.