Drunk little bastards

[placidfemme]

Sam and I live next door to a church, which has a larg-ish carpark which for the most part at night is covered in darkness.

In the 2 years that we have lived there, there have been numerous incidents of drunk teens partying away in the carpark after 10pm. Normally this is just a pain in the ass because they make shitloads of noise, blast thier car stereos at high volumes (from inside all you can hear is BOOM BOOM BOOM) and loud drunken conversations. Not a problem, turn the radio on and go back to sleep.

But recently it has started to get worse and I've noticed that its the same group of teens coming back time and again. Fights have started a few times and you can see them throwing punches at each other, throwing bottles all over the church cark park and spraying graffiti on the church walls... again not our problem and not too much of an issue to get to sleep afterwards.

But since the New Year this group has returned and are showing up pretty much every second night, the difference being that they have now started to come into our garden, making shitloads of noise right outside our bedroom window, they have also taken to destroying our solar lights by kicking them around the garden like a ball, so far we've lost over 10 solar lights and have decided not to replace them as they obviously attract these wankers.

Last night it happened again and they destroyed our last two remaining solar lights, they were jumping around on our deck. I got up and turned on the outside light and they ran away back into the church car park, I turned the light off and went back to bed and within minutes I could hear them out by our back door, so I got up again and turned on the back door light and again they ran off...

I fell asleep listening to them fighting with another group of youngsters, woke up this morning and my bike cover had been removed from my bike (there was no damage to the bike and no indication that they had even tried to steal it or anything) and I found my bike cover out by the back door, also our bin that was out by the back door was right out in the middle of the church carpark with out rubbish bag torn open and rubbish all over the church carpark.

There isn't much we can do to stop them coming into our garden as the hedge that runs down the side where the carpark is has about 1m of free space between the ground and where the leaves start.

It was recently suggested to put fishing line around the hedge/tree trunks, so at night when they try to run under it they get tripped/caught up in it, however this wouldn't help too much after some thought because there is a pathway further down the hedge where they can just walk through, also the drive way has no gate so there are various ways they can access our property.

I also don't think its wise for either Sam or myself to go outside and confront them seeing as they outnumber us, they obviously have no concerns about physically fighting people and they're always drunk.

Any suggestions of how to deal with this situation?

[MOTOXXX]

ummmmmm call the cops?

[Pumba]

Id like to say call the cops and let them sort it out, but the question is would they even bother turning up

[Whynot]

It was recently suggested to put fishing line around the hedge/tree trunks, so at night when they try to run under it they get tripped/caught up in it

Try the fishing line but forget to take the hooks off :innocent:

[Donor]

Any suggestions of how to deal with this situation?

Party at your place?

A large presence of heavy set KB members should give them the idea they're upsetting someone with bigger friends than them...

[judecatmad]

BB gun perhaps?

[imdying]

Operator: '111 Emergency, which service please'

You: 'There's a group of teens with what appears to be a gun outside my window'

Hillarity ensues :yes:

Alternatively, host a KB part, and beat the little fuckers to death with bats.

[Patrick]

Party at your place?

A large presence of heavy set KB members should give them the idea they're upsetting someone with bigger friends than them...

WOT 'E SED....

[placidfemme]

I've thought about calling the cops... but as was mentioned... would they bother turning up?

Because what could I say "Some drunk kids keep coming into our garden and destroying our solar lights... come sort it out"

And also... if that was the case they would know that the cops had been called and obviously why and it wouldn't be hard to guess who called them... so that could just provoke them to come back the next night and do worse shit... if you know what I mean...

[RantyDave]

Any suggestions of how to deal with this situation?
Call the police. Won't make any difference, but when you do get round to braining one of the little cunts at least you can say you tried.

Call the police and suggest some ripe ground for drink drivers.

Capture one and drag it round to it's parents house. Explain about the solar light things. Don't forget to multiply price of solar light things by 10 and divide by however much the little darling will get paid for working at maccas.

Have a nasty accident with the deck not being quite as strong as you thought it might be.

Video them and stick it up on YouTube. Use car registration numbers as tags as well as the location of the church.

Talk to whoever runs the church and see what they feel like doing. Extra points if you can get them to suggest something a good Christian should not really be suggesting.

Dave

[yungatart]

If you go with the cop option, be aware that unless you can "see" weapons or are in fear of your life or fear for someone else's life they won't turn up. Of course, they have weapons and have been making threats....haven't they?
Good luck!

[Patrick]

Id like to say call the cops and let them sort it out, but the question is would they even bother turning up

If you don't call the cops, they sure won't turn up...

Invite em along... you might be pleasantly surprised... a good way to get quotas from the learner/restricted breaches, WOF and Regos, liqour breaches, EBAs and disorder/fighting lockups just to name a few.

[Patrick]

I've thought about calling the cops... but as was mentioned... would they bother turning up?

Because what could I say "Some drunk kids keep coming into our garden and destroying our solar lights... come sort it out"

When you put it like that, yep... they won't come.

Talk it up. Make it sound interesting. They will come.

[Swoop]

They like dark places.

You could think about putting up a security light hooked up to a very bright light.

Edit: Very easily done if you already have the light wired in, outside. Cost about $20-

[Ixion]

Well, it's a bit more than that. "There's all these drunken men fighting , and now they're on our deck and trying to break in. There's only us two women here and I'm really frightened." I think that would warrant a Priority 1.

[alexthekidd]

Operator: '111 Emergency, which service please'

You: 'There's a group of teens with what appears to be a gun outside my window'
.

oooooooh the hilarity guaranteed to ensue off this, SWAT teams, More police than you can shake a stick at, i'd go with this one :lol: i'm pretty sure they wouldn't consider partying there again after being viciously attacked by SWAT Teams.


Alternatively loads of KB bikers with their big intimidating bikes all rolling up at once should scare the little fekers straight, know it would me if i was in their position lol

[Beemer]

Call the police and say there is a fight going on - they will be more likely to turn up then. Say the kids appear to be underage and drinking and bingo, I bet they will be interested. Get a sensor light that comes on whenever they enter your property, or leave the lights on all night. They probably think they can get away with it because you're a couple of girlies, so perhaps get some male friends to come around for a few nights to go out and shout at them to fuck off.

Otherwise, put the fucking hose on them, or have a sprinkler set up on a timer to go off every 10 minutes during the night.

And I'd definitely be having a word with the people from the church, it's their property, these people are possibly damaging it, and they are damaging your property too. I bet they wouldn't be impressed.

Or - MOVE to another place!

[Donor]

Even better!

Get a bunch of the biggest, hairiest KB'ers to meet somewhere round the road, when they arrive, flick a call, and have the bikers arrive en masse...

Nowt like a bunch of possums blinded by the light of a number of large rumbly motorcycles...

Muhaha...

[Patrick]

Well, it's a bit more than that. "There's all these drunken men fighting , and now they're on our deck and trying to break in. There's only us two women here and I'm really frightened." I think that would warrant a Priority 1.

WOT 'E SED TOO...

[Bloody Mad Woman (BMW)]

Do call the cops esp in the early hours of the morning! Pity you don't have a fire hose like I do outside my back door. Shit that thing has some force behind it - I've used it once to clean my "porch" and would have no qualms about scaring away "unwanted scum".

[bugjuice]

sumond thou fuzzy bacon-smelling ones

[davereid]

Years ago when I lived in a city I had a similar problem. Didnt want to put a fence up, cos would get grafittied. Didnt want to put a barbed wire fence up as would be seen as antagonistic - might invite revenge.

So, put in stakes every 500mm and planted some vicious old english roses, the nasty thorney bastards, which I tied to the stakes.

Instant biting fence - very effective, looked good, and solved the problem.

Wont help with the buggars in the church yard. See if the church know about it - potential vandalisim, fire etc etc, they may trespass the bastards.

[yungatart]

Call the police and say there is a fight going on - they will be more likely to turn up then. !

Not here they don't!!
There was a fight across the road from us a couple of weeks ago, it sounded as though it was getting pretty out of hand (I didn't get up to look tho), rang the cops, 45 minutes later they rang me back just to see if it was still going on....WTF????

[Beemer]

Not here they don't!!
There was a fight across the road from us a couple of weeks ago, it sounded as though it was getting pretty out of hand (I didn't get up to look tho), rang the cops, 45 minutes later they rang me back just to see if it was still going on....WTF????

They did in Lower Hutt, especially if you say a guy is beating up a girl!

[ManDownUnder]

Yep - cops.

Make a note of how many are there, record a few plates over the next few nights etc... if you safely can.

Call the cops every time it happens.

[ManDownUnder]

45 minutes later they rang me back just to see if it was still going on....WTF????

Maybe the taxi's were all booked?

[crazybigal]

call the cops but tell them that they are drinking and you "think" you saw a knife. they will come charging round to sort the little shits out.

[kadams]

Target practise with the crossbow or the Air Rifle, even better my brother has a .303 you could borrow.
Or you could just call the cops and say you heard a girl screaming from the church and that there is a gang of kids that look pretty drunk...:gob:

[scumdog]

Call the cops -every time it happens.

That way they'll know it's not a 'one-off' and they'll take some action.

Maybe up where you live the may not turn up the first time - but if you don't let 'em know then they'll NEVER turn up.

[DMNTD]

Party at your house!

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[WickedOne]

Party at your house!

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YYYEEHHHAAA, Bring it on!!!!!

[Swoop]

the kids appear to be underage and drinking and bingo
There is an age limit for playing bingo now???!!!

[Postie]

get some FLASH BANG grenades, chuck it outside when they get all rowdy, then after the FLASH,BANG, look outside and you'll see a bunch of stunned drunk teenagers on the floor in the foetal position, kind of like chucking TNT in into a barrel of mullet, hence the term "stunned mullet" (possibly)

Then go outside and proceed to de-ball the males, they shouldn't have the choice to breed anyway.



yes I was watching Texas SWAT on Prime last night

[Paul in NZ]

Call the Police. Earlier in the week it's not as busy...

If thats a no show - make an appointment with your local community constable and point out that the problem is long term and escalating.

If thats a non result - call the local press.

Don't get involved unless you have to and then don't piss about arguing with the pricks - act decisively.

[Kwaka14]

I have two large angry dogs which stopped most of the drama's that used to happen out my way.... Buy a Bull Mastiff, you'll fork out 100.00 on dog food weekly but it's worth it....

[placidfemme]

thanks all for the tips... I guess calling the cops outweighs the other suggestions (although I wouldn't mind shooting the fuckers).

I thought about (and even made) water ballons... but frozen... thought it was a great idea until I tested the first one... smaller than your average computer mouse... but would hurt like a rock... they barely break into 3 pieces when thrown against a wall or into the church carpark... But was advised by multiple people that I could end up with the cops after me if I took such action seeing as the possibility (depending on my aim) of them being seriously hurt...

[Juud]

Since when is vandalising someone elses property not enough for the cops to come and check it out? Call the cops and tell them about the recent developments near you and on your property. Violence only leads to retaliation.

Good luck, hope you get it sorted!

[SwanTiger]

Cook me a roast dinner (preferably pork) and I'll solve your problem. And perhaps apple pie and hokey pokey ice cream for desert? :D

BTW, is that the church off K'Rd, near the ANZ?

[Jimmy B]

To original post:

Two words: Bull Mastiff :Punk:

[Flatcap]

As some others have suggested - thorny roses and a decent sprinkler system. Even better if the sprinkler will reach into the church carpark

[Patrick]

Cook me a roast dinner (preferably pork) and I'll solve your problem. And perhaps apple pie and hokey pokey ice cream for desert? :D

BTW, is that the church off K'Rd, near the ANZ?

Forget the roast...just loads of pies...

[placidfemme]

Cook me a roast dinner (preferably pork) and I'll solve your problem. And perhaps apple pie and hokey pokey ice cream for desert? :D

BTW, is that the church off K'Rd, near the ANZ?

lol no-where near there... North Shore... Birkenhead

[Patrick]

lol no-where near there... North Shore... Birkenhead

North Shore Team Policing Unit (sort of the riot squad - turn up in numbers with a paddy wagon) is always keen on this sort of thing... ring em direct and ask for the Officer in Charge of that unit...

[ManDownUnder]

hide some Class A in the bushes, call the cops and let them know you saw one of them ditch the stash "over there"??

[Grahameeboy]

Are you sure it is not the Church Youth Group..............:dodge:

Talk to the Vicar because the last thing they want is damage etc........assume Vicar does not live on site? If he does, what is he / she doing and they should call Police...........personally I would have no trubs calling Police..........helped arrest some hoon once doing wheelspins up our road and no comeback and the other week these drunks threw things at my house , I caught them, threw them in the bushes and the next day I had an apology letter in my mailbox.........these people live on other people's fear although I guess if your motorbike is vunerable I can understand.......
Or get one of those cardboard police cars.............

[Grahameeboy]

hide some Class A in the bushes, call the cops and let them know you saw one of them ditch the stash "over there"??

You got some to spare then..........I have seen those drums in your yard disquised as oil drums..........

[ManDownUnder]

You got some to spare then..........I have seen those drums in your yard disquised as oil drums..........


sssssss SHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!

Bloody Dover and his mates find out it'll be all on!

:chase:

[Grahameeboy]

sssssss SHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!

Bloody Dover and his mates find out it'll be all on!

:chase:

Mates????:dodge:

[Dai]

Mates????:dodge:


Yes "Mates"

as in a flock of sheep or a herd of heffiers or any other farmyard animals.

[Flyingpony]

Ring the Police

[Toaster]

Call 111 and tell them what is going on. They are unlawfully on your property can should be arrested and charged.

[Finn]

Talk to the Vicar because the last thing they want is damage etc........assume Vicar does not live on site?

Of course he doesn't live on site. Do you think he would miss an opportunity to entertain a bunch of young men?

[avgas]

Must be those 'youth groups'
i say tell the church to move so that you can put more residential there

[Patrick]

Of course he doesn't live on site. Do you think he would miss an opportunity to entertain a bunch of young men?

bWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[SwanTiger]

Ah, Birken Head! The crime capital of North Auckland.

Can I please have extra crackling.

[Patrick]

Ah, Birken Head! The crime capital of North Auckland.

Can I please have extra crackling.

Don't you mean "pies..."

[SwanTiger]

Don't you mean "pies..."
You're so mean. I'm on a diet.

[Patrick]

You're so mean. I'm on a diet.

Me too... only a bakers dozen of donuts in a single sitting now...

[SwanTiger]

Me too... only a bakers dozen of donuts in a single sitting now...
Mmmmm. $2.50 packet of half dozen mini donuts from BP and a fresh large Hot Chocolate :yes:

Anyway, back on topic: Placidfemme, when would you like me to come over? I am going possum shooting tonight but I'm free tomorrow night. I'll skip lunch so that I have enough room in my stomach.

[placidfemme]

lol

Thanks all for the tips and stuff :) Those little pricks havn't returned since I last posted... maybe with school coming up the folks won't let them out the house... dunno...

We're going to be placing wire (as opposed to razor/bard wire lol) around the trunks of the bush/trees that separate the church from our garden, not sure when we're going to do this, but soon hopefully... it should act as a deterant more than anything, if the problems persist then we'll be calling the piggie patrol to come give them some bacon...

[MisterD]

Rig up some outside speakers playing Barry Manilow records that'll keep 'em away...no, seriously this has been tried at vandalism hotspots in the UK and really works.

[placidfemme]

Rig up some outside speakers playing Barry Manilow records that'll keep 'em away...no, seriously this has been tried at vandalism hotspots in the UK and really works.


Who's Barry Manilow?

[LilSel]

lol........:shutup:

[Edbear]

Who's Barry Manilow?




:killingme :killingme :killingme :killingme :clap:

[DMNTD]

Rig up some outside speakers playing Barry Manilow records that'll keep 'em away.
Hey hey now....no need to be that cruel!!

Glad to see ya going to try the wire job Tam. Don't forget to hang the bells on the wire too :yes:

[KLOWN]

we had some trouble at the end of our street where i used to live with young people damaging property, i have no problem with burnouts and druken going ons but when they damage property look out, so me and my neighbour went out when they were there. I had my two dogs and my air rifle and he had a musket and a shotgun. My neighbour had packed the musket with powder, no ammo though, and we told them to fuck off then gave them a warning shot with the musket. They ran away very quickly and NEVER came back. I think retaliation doesn't even enter thier minds when pepole own guns and dogs.

edit: we previously warned our other neighbours that they may here a loud bang when we go to sort out the problem, just so no one would call the cops on us.

[placidfemme]

Glad to see ya going to try the wire job Tam. Don't forget to hang the bells on the wire too :yes:

lol yeah, just waiting to hear back from some mates if they have any scrap wire laying around that we can use, otherwise I'll be popping up to Mitre10 to see if they sell wire... guess the warehouse may sell little bells...

[Indiana_Jones]

.....Can we still have a party anyway?
:D

-Indy

[ceebie13]

Call the cops... but meantime, photograph the little bastards from a spot across the street...that way they might not link it to you. Stick the photos on "Snapt" and also produce them as evidence to the cops. And/or discreetly jot down their regos and report them with or without (preferably with) your photo evidence. Photograph the grafitti too...anything to nail the little pillocks.
Sounds like it may not be just you that they are annoying. Talk to any neighbours and see if they'll support you in united action. Send the pics to the local paper...name and shame 'em. It's a start! Do all you can even if later in the day it shows up the cops for lacksadaisical (SP?) ineptitude. I mean, lets face it...the cops will be too busy looking for easy pickings at the roadside rather than helping rid our streets of young pissheads like this!

[unhingedlizard]

Looks like the chance of a free piss-up is going down the drain.

Tam, I had similar problems in Paraparaumu with kids who used to think it was funny to set my car alarm off and throw rocks on my roof while I was home. Called the police in the end and they were fully aware of who it was as these sort of kids are usually known to them. Didnt have any problems after that.

[nodrog]

lol yeah, just waiting to hear back from some mates if they have any scrap wire laying around that we can use, otherwise I'll be popping up to Mitre10 to see if they sell wire... guess the warehouse may sell little bells...

just get barbed wired, then you wont need the bells, the screaming will alert you.

[kro]

For God's sake, call the cops, if they are destroying your gear, and tampering with your bike, then what next???? home invasion???. Crikey, don't for one minute put up with this shit, it's absolutely not on.

Call the police, and tell them you have a prowler, and they will come running.

Personally, I would give my right testicle to still be in Auckland, and be part of the KB party idea, because I would sort these little wankers out, quick smart. I did it many a time when I lived on Mercury Lane off K road, and it aint hard to get rid of tossers, trust me.

My initial reaction is phone the police, and say there are teens drinking and vandalising property next door, and that you think you have seen people on your property, and the rozzers will turn up smartly.

[The_Dover]

just get barbed wired, then you wont need the bells, the screaming will alert you.

get some of that really fuckin nasty razor wire shit.

put that all over the place and cover it in piss and shit like the gooks did in 'nam.

the cunts wont come back after a couple of doses of septaceamia and an amputation or two.

[Jonny Rotten]

how about next time there on your property give us a bell and some of us can turn up in a van drag one into the back and then drive out to wood hill forest and make him dig a shallow grave about 3 foot deep then whack him over the head and knock him out and leave him there.....

or you could aways follow then home and trash there garden and shit and leave a nice note for there perants

[Indiana_Jones]

how about next time there on your property give us a bell and some of us can turn up in a van drag one into the back and then drive out to wood hill forest and make him dig a shallow grave about 3 foot deep then whack him over the head and knock him out and leave him there.....

I like that idea :D

We can all wear ex-president masks while do it :D

-Indy

[The Pastor]

I think you can download plans to make landmines on this thing called the inter-ma-web???

[imdying]

I think you can download plans to make landmines on this thing called the inter-ma-web???

Why yes, yes you can... http://www.textfiles.com/anarchy/

Here's good... http://www.textfiles.com/anarchy/warfare

Main those suckers next time they step foot inside your property. Oh, but you'll want to check this out as well http://www.uib.no/People/mfakh/LMK/LMsampart (in other words, don't blow yourself up).

[Patrick]

lol... if the problems persist then we'll be calling the piggie patrol to come give them some bacon...

Make sure you ask them, just like that... they will come running... :zzzz: :zzzz: :zzzz:

[Chickadee]

The speakers and Barry Manilow idea's a pretty good one.

Had to laugh when we were in Scotland a couple of years ago, some of the shops had trouble with youths (aka Neds) loitering around causing trouble. So they hooked up speakers and played classical music. Worked a treat, the little shits leave - hard to look 'hard' with classical music blarring away.

Roses and other natural deterants sound good, along with calling the cops - keep calling every time it happens. Don't put up with that sort of crap. Big scary dog will probably work too.

[Komuter]

Hmm, yeah I have dealt with nighbours like this at times.

Mitre Ten will sell you a tick tick tick sprinkler with a radius of about 5+ metres. route the house lopped through a window so you can kink and unkink it and watch the results.

Also Warehouse will sell you a bright workshop light for $10 @ 2000 Watts its daylight for a short while.

Speakers are 2 obvious.

I think your best bet is a couple good sprinklers strategically located.

[Wasp]

surely you can pick up a known vicious dog from somewhere really cheaply? just starve it and let it loose (don't, i hate dogs)

music idea is good, specially if they dont have any cars there to drown it out - some one here should lend you some big speakers

got a porch light? get a sparky to change it to a security sensor light thingy

whatever happens keep us updated!

[LilSel]

im a drunk lil bastrrd right now... can i come play in your bush placid fememy?? haha :laugh:

[placidfemme]

im a drunk lil bastrrd right now... can i come play in your bush placid fememy?? haha :laugh:

lol you really must be drunk... and who said I had a bush? :innocent:

[LilSel]

who said I had a bush? :innocent:

LOL!!!! *hangs head in shame*... :dodge:

[Macktheknife]

Stop it you two, you will get everyone excited.

[WickedOne]

Too late.....:o

You ready for tomorrow Tam?

[placidfemme]

Too late.....:o

You ready for tomorrow Tam?

lol

I hope so :) The weather looks like crap, so not very happy about doing the test in possible rain... oh well :)

Got the bike sorted... check out my thread here for pics of the work done to the ZXR over the weekend!

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=43560

[WickedOne]

lol

I hope so :) The weather looks like crap, so not very happy about doing the test in possible rain... oh well :)

Got the bike sorted... check out my thread here for pics of the work done to the ZXR over the weekend!

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=43560

Good job, looks great in the pics. Look forward to seeing it in person. Rain or shine, it will still be a piece of cake. :Punk: