Sitting Learners. [Archive] - Kiwi Biker forums

kave

27th January 2007, 14:20

Kinje

29th January 2007, 08:10

Hi, welcome to the site.

Get a lesson from an instructor before doing the basic skills. I had never ridden a motorbike before so had no real idea what I was doing, but after one lesson had done a practice run of all the drills for the test. Next lesson had a quick refresher, then did the test no problems.

Good luck, have fun, ride safe

Roj

30th January 2007, 10:27

Welcome to the site, good luck on your BHS

take your time and don't rush things, make sure you are comfortable with starting and stopping, and comfortable with your bike:scooter:

McJim

30th January 2007, 10:42

Through whom are you sitting your BHS?

Both me and my wife did ours last year and they teach you enough to pass from scratch.

I'd never ridden a bike in my life - 2 hours later I've got my BHS certificate.

KLOWN

30th January 2007, 12:29

Steph

30th January 2007, 15:20

Definately get a lesson before the basic skills, it'll make it alot easier. I had never ridden before I took mine and god it was one of the hardest days of my life. Balance and smooth throttle control help make everything else much easier.

As for the theory, make sure you read all the practise questions at the back of the road code and take some of those practise tests you can get from the AA or BP stations. I passed mine today and if I can, anyone can.

Drum

30th January 2007, 15:26

Welcome to the site Kave and Steph.

Hawkeye

30th January 2007, 17:12

Welcome to the site Kave and Steph.

Ditto.....

klingon

30th January 2007, 18:39

Hi, I'm new to this website, and to biking. I am sitting my basic skills and learners next weekend. Any advice? Also, I just bought my first bike, a 1990 Yamaha SRX250. Anyone got any advice as to where I could find a owners manual for it?
Thanks.

My advice:

- going fast is easy, going slow is hard. Practise going slow (and go AROUND the cones, not over them)

- Keep your chin up! Literally and metaphorically. Look where you want to go and the bike will go there. Also don't get discouraged if some of the skills are difficult to master. Keep practising and you'll be fine.

And congrats on your bike! And welcome to the site! And welcome to Steph too :)

Steph

30th January 2007, 20:08

Drum

30th January 2007, 20:14

Hey Kave, I support the suggestion that if you haven't ridden much before that you get a lesson from a riding instructor.

They will have some valuable tips to give you on selecting a suitable bike, the basics of the bike (like understanding the reserve tank, parking, finding neutral etc), and riding techniques (like keeping your head up, look where you want to go, countersteer etc). Some riding schools have a series of lessons on a Saturday morning, followed by the Basic Handling Skills Test in the afternoon. By the end of the day you have your BHS certificate and ready to sit your scratchy test.

Even if you have mates that ride, most of them will teach you their bad habits so it's still worthwhile getting a lesson.

And enjoy the summer!

bull

30th January 2007, 20:22

This may help with the theory side for scratchy test.
http://www.drivinginstructor.co.nz/index.php?goto_page=courses/test_menu.php
The above site is a good place to go and test yourself on the questions, i found them to be almost the exact wording as in the scratchy test and if you get any wrong it gives you the answer so you learn for next time.

Lee Rusty

5th February 2007, 18:30

I had never ridden a bike and went and did my bhs, took five minutes then done. They didn't tell you anything, u just hopped on the scooter and went around the cones, If you have and balance then your sweet.

what sortof scooter did they use - i hope it wasnt a 50cc auto jobbie that is clasified as a moped - since you are not allowed to sit a licence test on a moped. I would be interested to know

klingon

6th February 2007, 18:56

I recommend getting some lessons from that man up there ^^^ (Lee Rusty). He's very patient, even with someone who kept riding OVER the cones :shutup:

kave

6th February 2007, 19:42

Did the basic skills through passrite. Relatively easy, although only 3 of the 6 sitting passed as far as i could tell. Sat it on a GN125 that they provided. Much much easier for the slow ride than it would have been on my bike. Also never had to take it out of first gear.

chanceyy

6th February 2007, 19:51

As i am about to sit BH & learners in several weeks ... & going to book my learners several days later .. found quite a bit of info on the VTNZ website

http://www.landtransport.govt.nz/factsheets/28.html also there is info on what is required for basic handling .. which is great :D

also the previous info regarding the tests online .. fantastic, missed several questions & had not read the road code yet .. awesum stuff !!

good luck

Lee Rusty

6th February 2007, 20:43

some of the stories that come up here worry me

if you dont change gear how does tester know you can also need to go faster for corner and brake test

both require speeds of up to 20kph - more than 1st gear

sounds like tests are not worth doing - and after going in 1st gear they are signing off that you are fit to go on the road -

I like to make sure that people who have my name on a ceertificate can actually ride the bike, well enough to go on the road.

McJim

6th February 2007, 21:18

what sortof scooter did they use - i hope it wasnt a 50cc auto jobbie that is clasified as a moped - since you are not allowed to sit a licence test on a moped. I would be interested to know

The Basic Handling Skills certificate isn't a licence test. You can sit it on an auto scooter. I did the course on a CB250 but there was another person that day who couldn't get the hang of the clutch and gears and was given an auto 50cc to sit the test.

The restricted licence test and the full licence test however must be done on a 250cc or less motorcycle (which is why it is vitally important to get those 250 decals on yer gixxer 750 before you sit your test).

Lee Rusty

6th February 2007, 22:00

50cc scooters classed as MOPEDs

Driver licence rule 1999

Moped means any vehicle running on 2 or 3 wheels that is fitted with a motor having a power output not exceeding 2 kilowatts and is designed to be ridden at a speed not exceeding 50kph under normal conditions of use.

Now before you say some 50 cc scooters go faster etc i know they do but they get registered as mopeds to save money and therefore are classed by the owner as a moped (illegally) as do some of the mini choopers with 110 cc engines - so they get cheap rego, if they get found out they get sorted out - but as 50cc mopeds dont need warrents yet they dont get found out vey often. dont worry laws are going to be changed as will moped riders have to have m/c licence - its in the pipeline

Practical tests for Drivers licences D/L rule 1999
says
paragraph 50
Practical driving test not to be completed using certain vehicles
NO practical driving test may be taken on a moped etc

As to the BSH test not being a driving test
Check Para 48 DL rule 1999

Practical driving tests required ...

Paragraph 4 an applicant for a Class 6L must take the basic motorcycle handling skill test in part D of schedule 6

So my friend it is a practical test under law and CAN NOT be DONE on a A MOPED and I suggest that if you re one of the people doing it or know of some one doing so that you tell them to contact the LTNZ to get the rules straight.

Lee Rusty

7th February 2007, 00:01

if you think it is a good thing to get your licence EASY or do your test on a scooter because it is easy consider these things

Would you think it is a good thing is a car driver dcould do their test in a small car and never take it out of 1st gear?
How safe would feel as a biker then?

Its your neck, learn to ride properly and we won't see so many things on this site about My 1st crash or I binned it or whatever

When you crash it is not a good thing, an expected thing, or always the other guys fault.

every crash can be avoided if one person NOT nessasarily the one at fault does something different.

I get students on bikes all the time who have a licence and dont feel confident about riding on the road.

So they either get better training, or stop riding , MOST stop riding, how can that be good for our sport.

We need more of us and less of them. How can it be better for us if people out there tried it once got a fright or worse, and now consider bikes Dangerous - they are anti - stop their kids from becoming riders etc etc etc and our sport dies off.

Dont do somethign because it is easy or cheap - do it because you want to do it well and then you will stay alive as a bonus.

klingon

8th February 2007, 19:51

ha ha I noticed you wrote that at 01:01am. I hope you got some sleep and didn't lie awake fuming about all the incompetent bikers out there on the road, giving us all a bad name!

Lee Rusty

8th February 2007, 21:40

i am often up late and sometimes only chance to get a look at the site

floyd2004

8th February 2007, 23:22

Congrats on all those newbies out there like me!!!
I ran thru both the tests, the biggest thing to remember is
to stay calm. they're not that hard just have to keep ur cool.

Good Luck for the tests and hope there are a few new riders out there
to join us on the roads.

TWO WHEELS ROCK
:rockon:

Roj

9th February 2007, 08:37

Thanks! I've been warned I will become as addicted to this site as trademe...

Going slow is much harder than I expected and weaving through the cones and going slow in a straight line are two things that it helps to practise practise practise. And when you can't get those two things down it's the going faster parts that make you want to keep trying.

Hi and welcome to the site,
in here you have the basic wisdom that will mean you will be around a long time...

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