Yellow is for Lemon

[Dodger]

Thought some of you may be interested in the problems I've had with my Hyosung 250GT.
I've spoken to other riders of Hyosung's and it looks like I'm just unlucky. :(

1) Wrong Number plate - This wasn't really a problem with the bike, but more of an admin error. some how my number plate got mixed up with another bike and ended up on a 50cc scooter. was a simple fix once it was tracked down. (My plate starts with 84 the one on the bike was an 83)

2) Chain Guard - While riding my bike and just after meeting Buckbuck for the first time the back bolt on my chain guard fell out, this caused the guard to get eaten up by the chain. This was a factory fitted piece. TSS now check the guards on the Hyosungs so others shouldn't have the same problem. I'm just glad it didn't jam the wheel and send me on a quick visit to mother earth. Guard was replaced under warranty.

3) Tapping on left foot peg - When riding at certain speeds I would feel a tapping on the left foot peg, this turned out to be from the chain joiner touching the inside of the peg. This was finally fixed by installing a number of washers to space out the peg slightly. (maybe I should eat less pies)

4) Fuel indicator - When the tank was full it would show empty, as the level got lower the needle would jump up and down with the revs. and finally once I got down to 1/4 of a tank it would work fine. Part was replaced under warranty.

5) Rattle rattle rattle - This is one of the current problems. Once the bike warmed up a slight rattle could be heard coming from the exhaust. TSS attempted to fix this and I now have the rattle even when the bike is cold. Currently waiting for a replacement part to arrive under warranty. In the meantime it sounds like someone has stapled a tambourine to the underside of my bike.

6) Bouncy bouncy - My rear shock is very bouncy, with no dampening to speak of, I've compared it to other Hyosungs and its not how it should be. This rounds off the list of problems to a nice 1/2 doz. I'll be visiting TSS this afternoon to have a chat and hopefully this can be fixed at the same time as the rattle.

So far I've had the bike almost 6 months from new, and seem to be having one issue per month... is this the most unreliable bike ever made?

Remember - Yellow is for lemon. :p

[crashe]

Maybe get them to swap it over to another new bike.........
You are still under warrenty.

Then they can send this 'lemon' back to the manufacturers....

[skelstar]

Yeah, I had the chain-guard loose problem too. Just a nut that was loose that was fixed on the side of the road. The rear-shock problem seems quite common, and probably one that I had, but just didn't know and rode through it.

[Hitcher]

What's the problem? TSS are doing all of the repairs and adjustments under warranty, no questions asked. It may be a bit inconvenient having to run the bike into the shop, but that's about all.

[MidnightMike]

Paint it blue then you wont have any problems :dodge:

[Grub]

What Hitcher said.

Besides .... Yella is COOL. That's what the CBR is getting

[Ixion]

Golly gosh. I'm glad I don't work as a bike salesman.

If you really believe that such minor teething problems qualify for "most unreliable bike ever made", then you have a fascinating journey of discovery ahead of you.

Indeed, only one of the "faults" could be said to indicate unreliability, the chainguard. And that a mere 60 second roadside fix. Bolts come loose on bikes. It happens all the time. Do as experienced bikers do, carry an assortment of spares , and check things over quickly each time you stop.

Of the rest (I don't know how you can argue that someone bolting on the wrong number plate indicates the bike is unreliable), only one , the fuel guage , could really be described as a fault. And that, easily ridden round. Goodness me, most bikes don't even HAVE fuel guages. None of mine do.

I think you need to harden up considerably. Very considerably.

[davereid]

Wot Ixion said - its a motorcycle, it rattles, bolts come loose, good bikers notice them before they fall into the wheel.

Blue Loctite helps, (Please dont ask me why they don't have Blue Loctite in Korea, or China, or Milwaukee)

[bull]

Thought some of you may be interested in the problems I've had with my Hyosung 250GT.
I've spoken to other riders of Hyosung's and it looks like I'm just unlucky. :(

Think the majority of readers have missed this valuable point " looks like im just unlucky" ive spoken with Dodger and he is in no way bagging the bike, tss or hyosung for these problems. In fact hes actually finds it quite humorous and the major pet hate seems to be that he picked a yellow bike "yellow is for lemon".

Good luck with the fixes im sure TSS will sort it out for you.

[Dodger]

Ok, maybe "unreliable" was a poor choice of words. :whocares:

As bull pointed out, I'm not knocking the bike or TSS (TSS have been great, and I've been given discounts and freebies to make up for the inconveniences) this post was mealy to give people some insight into the minor issues I've had with my bike in the last 5 & 1/2 months.

I think the chain guard is probably the most annoying problem that I've had (although I think the rattle may slowly be driving my insane, but I was probably a little crazy to begin with anyway) I had only covered around 200k's on the bike at the time the guard came loose, leaving a permanent scrape on the swing arm. :angry:

What I would like is to just be able to ride my bike for a month without having a problem, is that to much to ask? :scooter:


most bikes don't even HAVE fuel guages. None of mine do.
Most bikes (at least that I'm aware of) that don't have fuel gauges have a reserve switch, the Hyosungs don't. it wasn't an issue anyway as I was just filling up at around the 280km mark)

[V4ME]

Just for the record - I have a yellow bike - SV650S - and I have never had any problems (even minor) so I'm not sure it's the colour - though I'm well aware some people can hang their hats on this theory - I've heard it said that silver is the colour for perfectionists!!
:banana:

[Dodger]

I like Yellow.
"Yellow cars cause more accidents"

Apparently people look at the yellow car and crash into someone else. Hence why I brought a yellow bike. That and I haven't seen many yellow naked Hyosungs around.

[V4ME]

[QUOTE=Dodger;915216]I like Yellow.

Snap - I like yellow too - And let's be honest - they do stand out.

[terbang]

Yella is good..! Mine is 25 years old and still going strong. New bikes shouldn't break down and have bits falling off them. We have a warranty for the "just in case because we are human" and yet people here are saying that its ok and normal for the product to fail during warranty. Jeez I'm glad this attitude hasn't flowed into aviation. My last two Suzukis, as I fully expected, have had no warranty issues though it was nice to have the manufacturer stand behind their product...

[N4CR]

mine used to be yellow and screwed so i sprayed it. no more problems since...
:lol:

http://img1.putfile.com/thumb/1/2722024756.jpg (http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=4630852)

give it a go.. come to the..... dark side
http://img1.putfile.com/thumb/1/2722024711.jpg (http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=4630851)

and drop the hyosung brand.. shiesh. :sick:

i'm just messing with ya. my first bike had blown fork seals, rooted carbs and wonky fr disc. all done under warranty.. it's just part of owning a bike. even a new one!

[avgas]

as yes, owning motorbikes is fun isnt it.
Any chance you could fix half these problems yourself - it will teach you alot about the bike.
My RZ and RG i replaced about 80% of the nuts, bolts, screws etc

[magicfairy]

i'm just messing with ya. my first bike had blown fork seals, rooted carbs and wonky fr disc. all done under warranty.. it's just part of owning a bike. even a new one!

I have owned 3 different sort of Suzukis from brand new - the only thing ever needing replacement under warranty were some indicator covers that suddenly "fell off" immediately after a service (like someone twisted them, when they don't twist but pop off :nono: )
One of the reasons you buy a new bike isn't it - so things don't break, fall off or otherwise come apart.

[N4CR]

i have owned 3 different sort of suzukis from brand new - the only thing ever needing replacement under warranty were some indicator covers that suddenly "fell off" immediately after a service (like someone twisted them, when they don't twist but pop off :nono: )
one of the reasons you buy a new bike isn't it - so things don't break, fall off or otherwise come apart.

yeah the first bike was ex jap import with 16k on it and about 15 years old.

[RantyDave]

6) Bouncy bouncy - My rear shock is very bouncy, with no dampening to speak of, I've compared it to other Hyosungs and its not how it should be.
This is getting to be very common. Yours is the third I've heard of doing this. Not good. Not good at all.

Dave

[RantyDave]

If you really believe that such minor teething problems qualify for "most unreliable bike ever made", then you have a fascinating journey of discovery ahead of you.

I think you need to harden up considerably. Very considerably.
Harden up? The rear shock completely shat itself. After six months. I don't imagine you ride into work with a spare rear shock in your pocket.

Dave

[jumma]

I like Yellow.
"Yellow cars cause more accidents"

Apparently people look at the yellow car and crash into someone else. Hence why I brought a yellow bike. That and I haven't seen many yellow naked Hyosungs around.

Completely un-related but that's so true.

I was passenger in a Canary yellow RX7 when it began overheating on the motorway just before the Terrace tunnel. We pulled over, and raised the bonnet and smoke began pouring out. Not long after there was a five car nose to tail as everyone was looking at this yellow car almost on fire and not infront of them.

[Dodger]

Ok guys just got back from TSS (great store that)
The rear shock is dead and needs to be replaced so that will be done at the same time as the rattle is fixed :)

I Also put aside a tank bag which I'll pick up tomorrow :love: so I can finally loose the backpack.

[SwanTiger]

I think most of your problems can be put down to poor assembly and not quality or reliability. Ixion has a very valid point too. A lot of the dealers selling Hyosungs are starting to pay attention to common minor issues, such as the rubber peg rests coming loose, along with the chain guard. A simple re-tightening with a bit of lock tite does the trick.

Hyosung on a mechanical/build level have a mound of experience and history in the motor industry behind them. It is everyone else that causes the problems. Distributors/Dealers who don't assemble bikes properly, service technicians who make "human errors" and of course the people right at the top of the pyramid who decide "the cheaper part is better, it does the job, so what?" then it causes problems then its a bunch of red tape bullshit to resolve it.

And last but not least, the end user, the rider is ultimately responsible for the maintenance of a bike: How it is stored, how often is it cleaned, the accuracy of service intervals and so on.

So to answer your question, no, it is not the most unreliable bike every made. It just had too many humans making errors involved in its conception.

[Dodger]

as yes, owning motorbikes is fun isnt it.
Any chance you could fix half these problems yourself - it will teach you alot about the bike.
My RZ and RG i replaced about 80% of the nuts, bolts, screws etc

No thanks, The bike was New 5 1/2 months ago, so why fix things on it myself when it's covered by warranty.
Really there shouldn't be any problems with a new bike. (well ok maybe 1 or 2, but not 6?)

[tipper]

NC4R, why the 'covering up the private bits' in your shots?? does your bike have genitalia?? Or is it just shy?

[Dodger]

How it is stored, how often is it cleaned, the accuracy of service intervals and so on.

Hmmm,
The bike has just over 3500km on the clock, it's stored in a garage at night and in an undercover car park during the weekdays.

Last service was at 1000km, the chain was re greased about 800kmish ago and prob needs to be redone (this weekend all going well). Cleaned... hmmm I cleaned it for UncleB's funeral, but not since. :innocent:

[SwanTiger]

Hmmm,
The bike has just over 3500km on the clock, it's stored in a garage at night and in an undercover car park during the weekdays.

Last service was at 1000km, the chain was re greased about 800kmish ago and prob needs to be redone (this weekend all going well). Cleaned... hmmm I cleaned it for UncleB's funeral, but not since. :innocent:
Interesting to hear your perspective, however that comment was a generalisation and not directed at your situation. How often you cleaned it obviously gives no reason for the chain guard to fall off... for example.

[skelstar]

Hyobags are substandard...its going to take a while for them to get it right.
Brilliant, another well-informed opinion.

[N4CR]

nc4r, why the 'covering up the private bits' in your shots?? does your bike have genitalia?? or is it just shy?

online privacy/identity issues

[Shadows]

I've never bought a car / bike / anything with a motor brand new for three reasons....

1) I'm too tight to shell out full price for anything,
2) the depreciation on a new vehicle in the first year or two is horrendous, and,
3) all of the factory "bugs" have been ironed out by the first owner.

Nothing with so many moving parts can be expected to come out of the factory 100%.

[Roj]

There may have been a few issues but TSS have dealt with them in what sounds to me a very good manner, of the few issues you have had the rear shock is the worst one and still covered under warranty, which is what is expected when buying a new vehicle. It is possibly time you started taking a little more time in checking your bike over on a regular basis, this can reduce the number of problems that occur during riding and may even prevent an accident.

I have been driving company vehicles for years and there has always been 1 or 2 that seem to have got thrown together at the end of the week and always had minor niggles and others that never had a problem. Comes done to quality control and as has been said previously... the people involved

[martypants]

Harden up? The rear shock completely shat itself. After six months. I don't imagine you ride into work with a spare rear shock in your pocket.

Dave

I agree.
Its a new bike It shouldnt have nothing wrong with it, who goes out an buys a brand new toy expecting something to be wrong with it???

[disenfranchised]

Ok guys just got back from TSS (great store that)
The rear shock is dead and needs to be replaced so that will be done at the same time as the rattle is fixed :)

If they tell you what the rattle is, let me know.
I've been hearing a slight rattle ever since I had the CDI wire cut to remove the power restriction/flat spot.

Well kinda a cross between a rattle and something like air being sucked through a tube.

Aside from that my Naked Yellow Hyosung has been doing me proud

[stevedee]

Have to say Doger, its still a dang fine lookin bike. Stick with it, TSS are a cool bunch.

spd:-)

[dawnrazor]

nothing wrong with yella fella......see profile.......but not the first set of issues I've heard associated with JANGYONGKIMs

[Cibby]

i think some of you are being a bit harsh on Dodger, if i brought a brand new bike, i would expect it to be spanking, having this many problems in teh first 6 months is potentially a sigh of more shit to happen?

If we just go on accepting substandard manufacturing/assembily then we will continue to get it.

We shall out our hard earned cash, i think it is fair to expect quality.

Plus a number of those issues could have been bad, what if the chain guard had locked the back wheel, would Hyosung have shelled out for that? Doubt it.

I know TSS are sorting you out which is great, but you are well within your rights under teh consumers Guarentee Act to demand a new bike that isnt a lemon. Document everything as you may need it in the future.

[Dodger]

...but you are well within your rights under teh consumers Guarentee Act to demand a new bike that isnt a lemon. Document everything as you may need it in the future.

That's what my wife keeps telling me, but I don't think I could bring myself to demand a new bike :(
Anyway, other than the minor issues the bike has been great, no problems with engine/frame/wheels or anything "important"

Although the rear shock is prob in the "important category" :(

[Dodger]

Just a little update.

Well it's taken a while but the rear shock has been replaced. (Bike feels so much better) and I'm dropping the bike off on Friday to have the rattle removed (ongoing problem since Jan). The rattle is coming from the "box" under the bike which the muffler/exhaust is connected to.

Also the tapping left foot peg has returned since the 4000k service. bloody thing. :angry: