Two interesting Hondas on Trade Me

[mynameis]

Um,

Here is the first one :

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=84821321&key=1366148

And the second one :

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=85539114&key=1366148

Go on tell us what you know about these bikes, anything really. Blooog baaah!

[Str8 Jacket]

I like the red one.

[Madness]

I've got more chance of affording the red one. 30k for a Honduh!, Yeah right.

[gamgee]

this one is pretty interesting as well
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=85219444
:bye:

[skelstar]

Well, the last piccy of the 'red one' shows a for sale sign with $6500 on it. Something that the trademe hawks haven't picked up on I think.

[Paulus]

I thought that they only made limited numbers of RC45s for racing homologation reasons (500 a year????). 11700 sounds like a lot of them.

I had an RC30 many years ago and I must say that the wanting was much better than the owning. Ended up swapping it for a Fireblade. Still that old Blade is now next to worthless while the RC30 continues to appreciate.

[Deviant Esq]

Well, the last piccy of the 'red one' shows a for sale sign with $6500 on it. Something that the trademe hawks haven't picked up on I think.

Well spotted, though it actually says $6250. Wonder how he can ask a $7500 as a buy now when he's got that sign on it? Would have been sneaky, if he hadn't left the sign on when taking the photos!

[gav]

Nice! But by all accounts the RC45's werent that great when they were released, well not in standard trim anyway....
Still they're V4's so can't be too bad I suppose! :yes:
As for the 75hp at the rear wheel of the 400, Andy Bolwells ZXR450 is rumoured to have 90! :gob:

[mynameis]

this one is pretty interesting as well
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=85219444
:bye:

Nice one blady hijacker! :p It's a very nice shiny black "Kawasaki" NC 30 as stated on the ad ppppfff lolzz.

But I think these ones are better value for money!! :

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=85839624&key=1448818

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=84984843&key=1450233

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=85570749&key=1450233

Why is you'rs on the blady higher end of the market? Just coz you can't ride that bike! hahaa

[Paulus]

Nice! But by all accounts the RC45's werent that great when they were released, well not in standard trim anyway....

I seem to remember it finishing last in several 750 shootouts. Snatchy fuel injection, not enough power and poor weight distribution were (I think) the main problems (excluding cost of course which was the MAJOR issue).

[mynameis]

I wonder how it puts out 75 hp eh. What exact mod? Pro Dyno Kits? It's a awesome looking bike though!

And I wonder who'd buy the RC 45 for that much when you can get a MV F4 for that price! (2nd hand I guess)

[Deviant Esq]

I'd not be buying a VFR400 that the owner wouldn't re VIN for me. Taking a chance it could be an ex racing bike. The other problem with the VFR400 is often the price they're asking. I'd still love an NC30 but it very much depends on the right bike at the right price. Okay, so it's not as bad as a '92 CBR250RR (some dealers are over $6k), but still, you can get a lot more bike and a lot newer for similar money in a lot of cases, or maybe $1k more...

Here's an example:
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Motorbikes/Sports/auction-86071732.htm

And another:
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Motorbikes/Sports/auction-85183391.htm

Okay, so they're both Hondas too, but that's what the original post was about... :nya:
Plenty of bikes are over priced on trademe as people on here have said, but there are some nice looking machines for nice looking prices too. Some are from dealers and look like better bikes and better buys than a more expensive private seller.

Hard for someone without much experience in bikes though. :(

[slowpoke]

I'd take the RC45 in a flash..........if I had the cash.
It was one of the few Honda's designed as a road bike second and a race bike first so the road trim setup was a load of bollox and totally unapplicable to it's intended use. The suspension, exhaust and road gear would have all been junked as soon as it was wheeled outta the shop and the race kit applied, which for the average rider would have transformed the bike.
Slighty and co may have struggled at the outter reaches of it's performance envelope but for Joe Bunny like you and me it would be an awesome ride.

[eliot-ness]

There's a 96 RC45 in Dec. Trader mag for $40.000 Advertised as one of only two road RC45s in NZ.... GP Honda, Mt Maunganui

[Hailwood]

Just posted a suggesiton on his auction that he might like to remove the for sale pic with $6250 on it if he has a buy now of $7500...wonder what reply I get if any.......

[aff-man]

the first one is worth the $30k... it's got enough titanium in it to build a large sized vault. Were the bizzo when they came out, and due to racing ad such are now ultra rare and ultra collectable.

The second one is the first's little sister, lest titanium and stuff but more fancy bits than on a stock vfr...

dunno what the guy with the black one has been smoking but if he thinks it's worth that...

[Paulus]

There's a 96 RC45 in Dec. Trader mag for $40.000 Advertised as one of only two road RC45s in NZ.... GP Honda, Mt Maunganui

The owner of the Honda dealership in Ashburton used to have 2 of them sitting in his shop. I believe they were both his and were on display and at that time not for sale. I think they were Japanese imports.

[Paulus]

the first one is worth the $30k... it's got enough titanium in it to build a large sized vault. Were the bizzo when they came out, and due to racing ad such are now ultra rare and ultra collectable.

The second one is the first's little sister, lest titanium and stuff but more fancy bits than on a stock vfr...

dunno what the guy with the black one has been smoking but if he thinks it's worth that...

Unfortunately the stock bike bears little resemblence to the successful HRC racer. Time will tell whether they'll become a truely collectable classic or not. Personally I don't think they'll ever be as fondly remembered as the RC30.

[aff-man]

Unfortunately the stock bike bears little resemblence to the successful HRC racer. Time will tell whether they'll become a truely collectable classic or not. Personally I don't think they'll ever be as fondly remembered as the RC30.

I thought the "stock" one had all the engine bits in it??

[merv]

I think the RC45 seemed like a disappointment when it came out because everyone remembered Fred Merkel winning two WSB championships on the RC30 and here was a new Honda to take on the Ducatis which had marched ahead in engine size and development, and they even employed Doug Polen a former WSB champion to ride it. Once the RC45 was on the scene no other 750 four got close to its record in WSB, but alas except for John Kocinski winning the title in 1997 no other 750 four ever did either. So was it a good or bad bike? Who knows really. Even now given how Bayliss has performed back on the WSB Ducati are any of the Jap 1000 fours any good either? Its all relative isn't it. Should we really all buy Ducatis? I don't think so.

Me I'll stick to my VFR because it was released around the same time as the RC45 but as the street version and it does that job perfectly. I am sure if I rode the RC45 I would begrudge its riding position and its overly tall first gear and I would hardly notice the extra 25 hp.

[Deviant Esq]

Just bought a copy of "Bike" magazine over here in the UK, and some guy had written in saying the RC45 was his dream bike but he couldn't find one anywhere, impossible to source (he was from the US, and they never made it over there) etc etc, and then saw one while overseas on holiday, in a motorbike shop. But no amount of cajoling would make the dealer part with it as it was a part of his personal collection. Goes to show, to the right buyer, they really are worth a fair bit of money.

[HenryDorsetCase]

The owner of the Honda dealership in Ashburton used to have 2 of them sitting in his shop. I believe they were both his and were on display and at that time not for sale. I think they were Japanese imports.

they were still there on Saturday I drooled over them. They've been discussed on KB before also.

I dont think Brendan would sell them. my view is the RC45 at $30k is good buying, and has potential to be a sound investment.

I also think that a cash offer of $25k would buy it.

[HenryDorsetCase]

when will someone put an NR750 on tardme is my question.

[mynameis]

dunno what the guy with the black one has been smoking but if he thinks it's worth that...

Haha lolz yeah I rekon stick new black paint and bum the price up! :p

[Coyote]

As for the 75hp at the rear wheel of the 400, Andy Bolwells ZXR450 is rumoured to have 90! :gob:
Whoaho! How did he manage that?

[imdying]

Whoaho! How did he manage that?

Probably be absolutely raping the bottom end :rofl:

[aff-man]

Whoaho! How did he manage that?

and a few ummm not "stock" parts I imagine

[Beemer]

Just posted a suggesiton on his auction that he might like to remove the for sale pic with $6250 on it if he has a buy now of $7500...wonder what reply I get if any.......

Knowing the mentality of many TM users, no doubt he'll not appreciate it and immediately blacklist you!

[Coyote]

Probably be absolutely raping the bottom end :rofl:
Phff, who needs it

and a few ummm not "stock" parts I imagine
Exactly what not stock parts is what I'd like to know

[imdying]

Phff, who needs itRoger that :rofl:

[Hailwood]

He has replied to my question...seems the mechanic put the price on it as a joke!!!!! He says the engine is worth more than that alone...there you are a TM user with a sense of humour

[JayRacer37]

SPLURT!!!! pah, why does an RC45 always do that to me?? IF (big IF) I had the money, i'd have it in an instant. the RC45. Honda's "we will show our design philosphy works" bike. Made of unobtaium, and harder to get too. It didn't matter it didn't work on the road, as slowpoke said. it just WAS. I want.

[JayRacer37]

Nice! But by all accounts the RC45's werent that great when they were released, well not in standard trim anyway....
Still they're V4's so can't be too bad I suppose! :yes:
As for the 75hp at the rear wheel of the 400, Andy Bolwells ZXR450 is rumoured to have 90! :gob:

Yup, rumour's are wonderfull things eh, and not too accurate either. If that thing is 90HP.....:rockon:

I had the pleasure of spending a few late nights in Andy's workshop in Oamaru whilst rebuilding a recaltriant race bike over the nationals, what a top bloke, and as genuine as you get. But as he said then , the most they ever saw was 85....:shit: or something. Terry's SV was down on Hp over the south island apparently, made Bol's bike look even better than it is tho

[gav]

Admitting to 85 or something is still pretty close to 90 don't you think? Yeah, Andy's a top bloke alright. Was suprised he's never had a crack at racing a 600. Was real suprised to see him out in Prod Superbike on a ZX10 a couple of years ago, but he never did look that comfortable on it.
As for Terry's bike being down, that could explain just how fast Andy could pass him down the back straight at Levels during some of the F3 races.