Me vs Car - Me still ok

[Colapop]

Do I get my grown up bikers' badge now? I had my second ever accident on the way home tonight. The guy in the car I was approaching moved to the centreline of the road, just before a right hand tee intersection. I assumed (makes an ASS out of U and ME) and moved to the left of the lane to underpass him. It was at this point that he indicated to turn left and turned into his driveway - straight in front of me. So as the experienced and worldly biker that I am, I jumped on the back brake and locked up the wheel. Thought "No no don't do that" got off the back and more onto the front with alot more vigour before gently side slamming into the side of the car. I think I sort of bounced off a bit then dropped the bike. I immediately picked up again and turned the key off. He'd got out and was surveying his car. In quick succession the neighbors appeared and he started to tell them how I was at fault! One of the neighbors asked if I was ok...

The Police turned up about 5-10 minutes later (fuck that was quick!) But it was good because the driver was starting to really piss me off - I was stalking up and down the street side trying to remain calm. The cop got me to sit in the car and took my statement. Nothing else to that I suppose - I'll just wait and see what happens now...?

And now for the damage report;
Front right hand fairing - mounting brackets and fittings busted off.
Headlight fairing - broken around the headlight.
Headlight moulding - cracked may need replacing. (Headlight is in good nick)
Forward mounting bracket - bent to one side needs straightening maybe a bit cut off and replaced.
Radiator - Top pipe busted off, probably just needs to be welded (TIGed) back on - the radiator itself looks ok.
Forks - look ok...? no visible signs of damage and appear relatively straight.
Front Wheel - looks ok
Indicators - Busted 3 out of 4 of them - they need replacing so it appears a set of four is in order.
Everything else appears to ok....?

I actually think the car will cost more to fix than the bike. Good job coz he's a cunt. The cop told me all I had to tell him was the incident report number, so that's all I gave him.
He says "I'll fight you tooth and nail to get this fixed" so fuck him. Have fun in the courts you dick!

Oh and I'm ok too! Sore shoulder and thats it.
(shit photo's but they're from a cell phone so that's good enough)

I must not forget - a huge big thanks to KB! Especially AJTurbo and Skunk. AJ was the first who answered the phone (coz he has no life!) and Skunk who answered his call and came to my rescue (about 1/2 a k from my home) and transported my bike back here and helped me take off fairing and mull over the damage or lack thereof. I got off pretty lightly all up. Without the great people that inhabit this place I'd be still sitting on the side of the road not wanting to pay for a towie!

[McJim]

Did the fuckwit indicate left or right before 'Swan-necking' into his driveway?

[Trudes]

Oh Col, so glad you're ok!! Did you call me too? I was on the phone with TSS trying to get them to pick Nige up off the side of the road too when a call came through from your mobile and I couldn't answer it, sorry big guy, but again, glad you're ok.

[skelstar]

Thats shit luck bro. Good to hear you're ok.

[Steam]

AArg! Random cage-driving motherfu*kers!
Glad to hear you're ok, and hope you don't get stuck with the bill for underpassing.
When will you be back on the road? A couple of days or a bit longer you think?

[maybe]

Main thing is you are okay bikes fix easy people dont.

[Clivoris]

Lucky but unlucky too. Given the combined mass (or ampleness as we call it in the trade) you must have scrubbed off significant speed to escape more damage. Crashing sucks but crashing worse sucks more, and well done on the emotion regulation skills.:rockon: Glad you're still walking the earth mate.

[apteryx_haasti]

Hey Col -

Glad you're OK. Sorry to hear about your accident - take care!

A_H

[Maha]

Ja Hesus Col !!!!!!.....the said car person/cunt fulla should count himself lucky the Cops turned up when they did. He could have very easily ended up sucking wizzed meat through a straw for a few weeks......:yes:
Happy you are ok buddy.....:rockon:

[T.I.E]

looking at you how was the car?
must be a write off now after you hit it.
but glad to hear ya ok, and i hope the little shit gets it for reckless driving or something.
hope that shoulder heals up soon.

[_Gina_]

Bummer dude :(

Cage drivers will, without any warning, do anything at anytime.

Be no time and you will have the bike fixed and be back out there.

Glad you are okay.

Gg

[Meanie]

Bugger man pleased your ok though I get pissed off when people forget how to use thier indicators or flick them on as they are turning

[KATWYN]

Awww Colapop! sorry to hear about what happened.

The main thing is, despite a broken bike you are ok :sweatdrop

[Colapop]

Did the fuckwit indicate left or right before 'Swan-necking' into his driveway?Yes he did - at the moment he started turning. You expected something else?

Oh Col, so glad you're ok!! Did you call me too? I was on the phone with TSS trying to get them to pick Nige up off the side of the road too when a call came through from your mobile and I couldn't answer it, sorry big guy, but again, glad you're ok.Yep that was my feeble cry for help!

Lucky but unlucky too. Given the combined mass (or ampleness as we call it in the trade) you must have scrubbed off significant speed to escape more damage. Crashing sucks but crashing worse sucks more, and well done on the emotion regulation skills.:rockon: Glad you're still walking the earth mate.You're calling me fat aren't you? Still locked up the back before I got heavily on the friont. have to actually go out and practice emergency stops!
Get good gear it's farking gold! Quasi gear rocks - March 10 Waikanae pub

[Ixion]

Oh dear! Still, no irrepairable damage to man or machine, so that's the main thing.

Never been quite sure how the law qorks there, bit of a vague area.

[McJim]

Yes he did - at the moment he started turning. You expected something else?


I expected he hadn't indicated at all (but then I'm from Auckland!) he didn't observe the 3 second rule thingumy then.

I've had a car vs me too - please accept my sympathy. :(

[Clivoris]

You're calling me fat aren't you?

Too sharp for me bro. Obviously no new brian damage.

[boomer]

beat teh crap out of him Col and then tell him to send you the bill.

Good to see you're relatively OK bige fella.. :rockon:

[HRT]

Even when in a car those people fuck me off that dont actually indicate until they're turning. Hardly ever see anyone on the roads now that actually follows the road rules.

And WTF is up with people indicating right to go straight through a roundabout?

[Zapf]

the car indicated while it was turning into the drive way. not 3 seconds before.

[skelstar]

And WTF is up with people indicating right to go straight through a roundabout?
Apparently its the law now.

[Mom]

So glad that you have walked away from this "incident" a little bit sore and very much ok! Your bike will mend friend, it is a piss off at worst.

Was this car driver wearing a hat perchance?..........I find hat wearers the least skilled when it comes to basic road rules.

take care eh?

[RT527]

Oh dear! Still, no irrepairable damage to man or machine, so that's the main thing.

Never been quite sure how the law qorks there, bit of a vague area.

Yeah I agree on wishing a speedy recovery on both you and the Bike.

It never ceases to amaze me that people think they are driving trucks and need to go way wide or cross the centre of the road before turning into their driveway, most of these maneuvers can be completed from the left hand side of the lane....and he wasn't driving as practical to the left as possible so I suppose he could be done for inconsiderate use or even careless use, failure to indicate with sufficient warning, don't know what else .....ahhh they should just do the pecker for being a complete toss....

[Clivoris]

Apparently its the law now.

:scratch: I thought the law was to indicate your intended exit (same as any intersection) as you enter the roundabout, then indicate left as you leave the roundybout.

[beyond]

Bummer :(

Glad to hear you are ok. The bike got of light too except it looks a little sick there.

If he didn't give a three second indication (sounds like he didn't at all) then he's stuffed. Thats why there is a three second rule.

Too many dumb bunnies out there turning as they indicate.

For those who query the roundabout rules, you indicate right if turning around the roundabout but if going straight through you don't. BUT; whenever you leave the roundabout, including straight through traffic you indicate left to show you are pulling off it and that goes for straight through traffic as well.

[skelstar]

:scratch: I thought the law was to indicate your intended exit (same as any intersection) as you enter the roundabout, then indicate left as you leave the roundybout.
You might be right, but I was sure that you indictaed right first. I'll check sometime when I remember LOL.

[merv]

Mate, I feel for ya!!!

[chanceyy]

glad to hear you came out relatively unscathed there col ;)

[k14]

Apparently its the law now.
No its not, you should never indicate right if you're going straight ahead, its just that 90% of people don't understand the road code.

Sorry to hear bout the crash mate. Glad you're ok though, any one you walk away from is a good one. Hope you get bike repaired and back running asap.

[HRT]

you indicate right if turning around the roundabout but if going straight through you don't. BUT; whenever you leave the roundabout, including straight through traffic you indicate left to show you are pulling off it and that goes for straight through traffic as well.


Finally someone who actually knows! Everyone bleated on about the law changing and roundabouts being confusing now etc but its always been the same.

*stabs in the publics general direction*

[merv]

Oh Col, so glad you're ok!! Did you call me too? I was on the phone with TSS trying to get them to pick Nige up off the side of the road too when a call came through from your mobile and I couldn't answer it, sorry big guy, but again, glad you're ok.

Ah, so what happened to Nige?

[judecatmad]

M8!!!

So glad you're pretty much OK and that the bumps and bruises heal fast.

Doncha just love a good old legal shitfight?! :D

[Trudes]

Ah, so what happened to Nige?

Nothing much, just ran outta gas.

[Skunk]

You might be right, but I was sure that you indictaed right first. I'll check sometime when I remember LOL.
Clivoris is correct; indicate left just before your exit is the law.


Nothing much, just ran outta gas.
:killingme I've never done that. OK, once halfway up the Gorge...

[pastybee]

Shit from your text i didnt know that it was that bad, shit...glad to hear you didnt do any bad damage to yourself lookin at your bike. Let me know if you need anything... a hug or a free lunch...talk to tomorrow

[crashe]

Colapop - Sorry to hear about your accident, glad to hear that you are ok.


So you were following him from behind?
He moved to the right and then indicated to turn left as he was turning?
and then turned left right in front of you?





Hmmmmm if it was this way...... could be a hard call by the cops.
Reason you were behind him.


So be prepared for a fight from the other side's insurance company.


Many car drivers do this..... and it is so frustrating when they do it.....
Same as many pull right over to the left of the roadside and turn right.

[merv]

Nothing much, just ran outta gas.

OK, couldn't imagine the Honda was giving trouble. Does he not watch his fuel gauge and warning light or doesn't the Hornet have those?

[Indiana_Jones]

Didn't I tell you to ride home safely tonight!?

We should stop saying that to each other, we seem to crash after it lol

Glad to hear you're alright mate :)

-Indy

[McJim]

You might be right, but I was sure that you indictaed right first. I'll check sometime when I remember LOL.

You only indicate right when approaching a roundabout if you are going right (like taking the third exit on a four road roundabout) I've seen cagers indicate right and then go straight ahead since I got to New Zealand - I think it;s a result of some ham fisted wording in an earlier campaign to educate kiwis on the niceties of indicating at roundabouts.

Shame a lot of people haven't got the hang of it yet - makes roundabouts so dangerous - I've nearly been wiped out 3 times by going stright past a car that all of a sudden was taking the same exit as me without there being enough space!

[skelstar]

Ok, guess Im doing it wrong. I indicate right until I exit, when I then indcate left to get out. No ambiguity. Everybody knows where Im going.

[Squeak the Rat]

I don't want to be a negative prick but i am tonight, if you undertake a car and they turn into you I wouldn't see that as solely their fault.

If they aren't indicating right (or stopped) then you can't pass......

Yeah, he could get a careless charge for lack of indicating, but would that necessarily imply fault (eg if i jumped on my brakes on the motorway i might get a careless or dangerous charge but would i be liable for the guy that drives into the back of me?)

As crashe said, expect a bit of a fight.

[Edit:] Glad youre ok CP.

[Colapop]

He can fight all he wants. I'm not going to do anything til the police have made a decision. If I freak about it then it's just stress I don't need.

I'm outa greenies so I'll just thank all of you for your support.

[crashe]

He can fight all he wants. I'm not going to do anything til the police have made a decision. If I freak about it then it's just stress I don't need.

I'm outa greenies so I'll just thank all of you for your support.

Hopefully, the police dont take as long as they took, for them to make a decision, as they did on my case. (8 months I waited)

Just be patient and wait.

[Pumba]

Bad luck mate

But look at the bright side you may get to go shoping for a new bike (always gotto try and find some good in a bad situation)

[Lissa]

He can fight all he wants. I'm not going to do anything til the police have made a decision. If I freak about it then it's just stress I don't need.


Glad you are okish Col... thats a good attitude to take... waste of time worrying too much about it. Go have a drink... you deserve it. Unless you have concussion or something then its bad.. go and have a glass of water. :D

[Kendog]

OK, couldn't imagine the Honda was giving trouble. Does he not watch his fuel gauge and warning light or doesn't the Hornet have those?

Couldn't imagine the Honda with problems either :innocent:

It was a mighty (thirsty) GN

[Kendog]

Glad to hear you are ok Col.

Keep the stand as long as you need for making repairs.

[Madness]

Bugger Col. Back to being a bum in a box for a while maybe?.

Similar thing happened to me 15 years ago. RG250 vs. Hillman Avenger. I t-boned him right where the drivers door meets the front guard, the bike swung around to slam into the side of the car. RG250 written off, dislocated Navicular (ankle bone) that required shitloads of Morphine & cutting & grinding. Those were the days of sheepskin moccasins - hutt Valley styles bro. You should always learn from your experiences, I learnt that moccasins make for shit motorcycle boots.



Ok, guess Im doing it wrong. I indicate right until I exit, when I then indcate left to get out. No ambiguity. Everybody knows where Im going.

I do this too, always have as I understood it to be the law. I get pissed when I approach a roundabout and oncoming traffic turn either way without any indication, the melling roundabout is bad for this.

[ajturbo]

it was a "little" bit funny....
what would YOU think if a guy the size of Col, phones you up and say's "ummmm andy, i have a little problem"... i said that i really don't need to know what he looks at when he has a shower........

but i am glad i could have helped,
on yer bike asap big boy, or i'll send luke round to bitch slap ya back on!!!

[avgas]

he is at fault - rule 2 : indicate for 3 seconds before turning.
Didnt matter what you did if he didnt indicate

[Kendog]

You only indicate right when approaching a roundabout if you are going right (like taking the third exit on a four road roundabout) I've seen cagers indicate right and then go straight ahead since I got to New Zealand - I think it;s a result of some ham fisted wording in an earlier campaign to educate kiwis on the niceties of indicating at roundabouts.

Shame a lot of people haven't got the hang of it yet - makes roundabouts so dangerous - I've nearly been wiped out 3 times by going stright past a car that all of a sudden was taking the same exit as me without there being enough space!

I also thought you indicate right until you get to your exit, then indicate left.

But if you look at the road code (http://www.ltsa.govt.nz/roadcode/giving-way/roundabouts3.html) it states

If you are going 'straight' through a roundabout:
don't signal as you come up to the roundabout
signal left before the exit you wish to take.

[KLOWN]

Apparently its the law now.


edit, deleted my bit about roundabout etiquette because it has been said correctly many times before me.
good to hear your ok col.

as a side note did you realise if some one is turning right out of a shopping mall, carpark etc and your turning right into it YOU must give way. How many people follow this rule .... ZERO (its the give way right rule that people only follow when convenient)

[Wasp]

damn, that shucks

glad you are ok mate

[Darkman]

good to hear you're okay mate.

[Shadows]

Sorry to hear that dude. The main thing is that you are okay.
Best of luck with the ensuing shitfight. It sounds to me like it might be a contributory negligence thing, if so then at least you (or your insurance company) won't get the bill for his car.

[Mrs Busa Pete]

That suxs but glad you are ok ish as others have said before me bikes can be fixed hope the mrs gave you nice massage to help with the pain.

[arj127]

could be in a bit of grief here Colapop.
I had a similar problem some years back. It was night time and I had been in my small truck following a woman in her car(for f'n ages), we turned into a road that had a pretty steep uphill gradient and travelled half way up it, she pulled right over the centre line, no brake lights or indication, so i figured she was turning right as there was another road entrance there, so i go to pass on the left,(tons of room since she was half over the centre line) and she pulls hard left into a driveway. I smacked into her passengers door, hop out and ask her what she was thinking, and she says sorry i didn't know you were behind me. So it ended up that i (my insurance luckily) had to pay for all the damage. That said it was my fault as i undertook. Yeah whatever!

Hope it works out better for you.

[Lou Girardin]

I hope your cop is more reasonable than the one who did me for the same thing far too many years ago.

[elle-f]

I am glad to hear you came off relatively unscathed. It's true - bikes can easily be fixed.

[Edbear]

Let me know if you need anything... a hug or a free lunch..




You realise this is Colapop you're talking too...?:yes: I've heard, courtesy of Classic_Z, about Colapop's hugs, and I doubt the credit card could afford the free lunch...:dodge:

Not surprised the damage to the car is worse.
:innocent: Pleased the damage to CP was light. Congrats on the self-control, too CP and kudos to the Cop for the way he handled things at the scene.

You'd be amazed, (okay, probably not!), at how many drivers seem to have no idea that anyone could be actually following them while they are driving! Complete and utter oblivion to any other vehicles as they mindlessly weave along! As one lady, (sorry, ladies!), said, "But I ALWAYS turn here...!"

[sels1]

Bad luck Col, hope you getted sorted soon.
Good of Skunk to exit the TCWNR and come and help you.

[Trudes]

Actually Col, just thought about it and can't figure out what I could've done to help you. I mean I probably wouldn't have been able to pick your bike up off the road, or you for that matter. Did you just need a hug? (Don't tell everyone, I only give those out to special:weird: people).

[riffer]

Jeez mate, sorry to see the bike looking so sad. Glad to hear you bounced off the road okay. Obviously you haven't gotten too unfit since you gave up the rugger.

Let me know what I can do to help you get it back on the road.

I hate to say it, but those fairings look toasted. You may be looking at a write-off there just from the cost of replacing them.

Good news is that the top triple clamp on the RF should accept some nice motorcross bar clamps. And you can streetfighter the sucker.

A streetfightered RF will look mighty good. :yes:

Again, any help you need - you know where to find me...

[bistard]

Sorry to hear the news Big Guy
Are you insured??
Otherwise,look into the streetfighter option

[SpeedyGirl]

Oh Col!!! Glad to hear that you are ok babe!!!! You look after yourself out there and I will give you a big *hug* when i see you next :Punk:

[MSTRS]

Ah bugger Col. Bit behind the times, I know (been away). Bugger about the damage to your bike, but glad you are OK.
Vehicles turning like that are more common than you might think. A lesson for us all.

[Colapop]

All KBers know (or should know) that I LIKE HUGS! I try to be gentle with the girls & DMNTD (he's a bitch anyway) and the guys should be man enough to handle them.

As far as 'The Shitfight' goes, I'm pretty unconcerned. If it goes against me then I'll offer to pay... of course I'll only pay at $5/week forever and a day. If they want more it'll cost them more than its worth to recover the money. I can be as much of a prick as anybody. Just glad I didn't give the guy any personal details at all. If the police attend all you are obliged to give is the incident number (and you don't even have to give that). Gone are the days of swapping numbers and all that bullshit.

[Insanity_rules]

Whoa Col, poor cookie! Glad your OK big guy. As for this dude mouthing at ya, firstly I'm kinda impressed he did it to your face (dont take that the wrong way) as you probably didn't look too agreeable at the time and you don't exactly look like a wuss either!

Secondly judging by the damage, I doubt that could go against ya. It looks pretty clear that you weren't given a lot of stopping distance.

Hope things go well for ya mate!

[BNZ]

Bad luck mate, but fucken take responsibility. You tried to undertake a moving car and you hit the car. If it was the other way around you would be cursing the car driver for trying to undertake.

It sucks your bike got a bit busted, glad your ok though. If the cops say your at fault, dont be a cunt. Pay the man, you did after all crash into his car. :nono:

[vifferman]

Sorry about your "bit of a problem", Mr Colapop.

Similar thing happened to me a few years ago. I came up behind someone who'd just pulled out from the curb, and so i braked and slowed down )I was going to tootle him melodiously to make sure he knew I was there, but didn't....) He then pulled into the kerb and so I went "Oh - he's seen me" and started to accelerate past him, just as he started to crack a u-turn. :shit:
I swerved, but he was turning faster than I could.

Luckily, in my case he was at fault, as he turned across my path, didn't indicate, and was driving an Audi. So it was no fault as far as the insurance was concerned. Total damage to the VFR was $6800 - all cosmetic.

Anyway, enough burbling from me. I hope it all goes better for you than it has so far.

[WickedOne]

Glad to hear you're okay big fullu!!!

[MrMelon]

That sux dude... just goes to show they are all out to kill you!
At least you know where he lives if he tries to give you any more grief.

[yungatart]

Aww, Colapop, not good mate. Glad to hear you are ok, tho'!:love:
But why didn't you just give the dude one of your special, hand crippling, nipple pinching hugs? :yes:

[hsvboy06]

I also thought you indicate right until you get to your exit, then indicate left.
Not wanting to hijack the thread, but...

If you're going straight through but you indicate right as you enter then someone coming from the opposite direction (entering where you're going to exit) will think you're going to turn across their path and will have to give way to you. So they'll stop unnecessarily.

The closest call I've had on my bike was when I was going straight through a roundabout and there was a guy coming from the opposite direction who wasn't indicating. Sweet, I thought, he's going straight through, too, and I don't even need to slow down... Having got 1/4 of the way around the roundabout this guy then starts indicating right! Luckily I was able to stop. Now I ignore people's indicators at roundabouts because at least half the time people use them wrong so they're just bad information. If there's any chance someone can hit me, I take avoiding action. Always use extra caution at roundabouts (especially small ones).

Sorry to hear about your off, Col - glad you're ok and I hope the bike gets sorted ok.

[DMNTD]

All KBers know (or should know) that I LIKE HUGS! I try to be gentle with the girls & DMNTD (he's a bitch anyway) and the guys should be man enough to handle them.


Hahaha...lick my sweaty bits poof :shake:

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Oh and I s'pose it's good you're ok too :Punk:

[Colapop]

Bad luck mate, but fucken take responsibility. You tried to undertake a moving car and you hit the car. If it was the other way around you would be cursing the car driver for trying to undertake.

It sucks your bike got a bit busted, glad your ok though. If the cops say your at fault, dont be a cunt. Pay the man, you did after all crash into his car. :nono:
Hahaha! No need to be an angry man! I'm not saying he was totally at fault - equal blame I'd say. But his attitude wasn't the best. His first comment was "I'm going to need your insurance company details" not "Are you ok?"
We'll just see what happens - don't judge me before you know me (yes, I am mental)

The only thing that's confusing me with the thread hijackers (It's all about me!!) is that hey're all talking about a roundabout when I was on a tee intersection??

[The Pastor]

Its a good reminder to never pass in suburbia. You're not going to get any where any faster with over/under taking. You will catch them up at the lights.

SORTED!

[Swoop]

Many car drivers do this..... and it is so frustrating when they do it.....
Same as many pull right over to the left of the roadside and turn right.
The road code actually encourages this, if it is on a busy road where sitting in the middle of the road might be even more dangerous.
However, getting an average (impatient) kiwi driver to do this safely seems to be a challenge.

This thread has officially been hijacked, Cola!!! Fly us to Queenstown or we'll blow it up!!!:shutup:

Glad you're OK!!!

[Sniper]

Bugger, good to hear you are OK matey.

[Roj]

he is at fault - rule 2 : indicate for 3 seconds before turning.
Didnt matter what you did if he didnt indicate


In the ideal world this is true,

however if you hit someone from behind, no matter how idiotic they are driving, you are in the wrong, based on the premise that when following someone you are suppossed to be able to stop in half the clear distance in front of you.

I also believe this sucks because if the driver in front does something wrong, the sucker behind pays for it...:argh:,

and yes I have had to pay (well the insurance company did) for damage caused by an idiot driver in front of me:gob:

[jrandom]

Glad you're in one piece, Colapop.

Difficult to call re. that accident. You did, after all, overtake the cage on the left when he was neither stopped nor indicating to turn right. That arguably trumps a failure to indicate for the full three seconds prior to maneuvering. Best case outcome would be 50/50 responsibility, I'd say.

[Woops, Squeak beat me to it.]

Never mind. You're insured, right? Live and learn and ride again.

[HenryDorsetCase]

Glad you're OK. could've been worse I guess.

thats an interesting call. If dickless had stopped in the middle of the road and you'd stopped behind him, odds are you would have got rear ended, and not in a nice way.

[LilSel]

Glad to hear your ok Col *hugs*, rest that shoulder of yours...n dont forget to get it checked out if it's still givin you grief... (if ya havent yet that is).

[Macktheknife]

Good to hear you are ok big guy, well done on not beating him senseless! Heal fast and good luck with the repairs.

[stunz]

yea, glad to hear you're still in one piece and shame about the bike. Its surprising the number of vehicles that pull off that manouver though. Coming from the other direction, I've experienced a couple of near misses as cars swing out over the center line to get a better angle into the driveway. Go figure

[Paul in NZ]

Glad you are OK Col.

The ferryman does not care who's 'fault' anything is - just be happy you are in once piece and adjust to stop it happening again.

[Fishy]

Sorry to hear about that Col, glad you are ok though mate :yes:

[pzkpfw]

...I've experienced a couple of near misses as cars swing out over the center line to get a better angle into the driveway. Go figure

Some of them seem to have buggered shoulders, and can't turn properly.

You've seen those dorks who lean all-over their passenger seat while turning left, or nearly fall out the drivers window when turning right?

They make up for this lack of ability to, you know, turn the steering wheel, by swinging wide everywhere.

At least the rider was not too badly hurt in this one.

Cheers,

[Hitcher]

Ooh, bugger! Good to know you're OKish, Col. It will be interesting to see who the Police prosecute for careless driving.

[nudemetalz]

Ya poor bugger, Col.
Good to hear you are okay. Glad you didn't deck him, that would have been the end of you in courts.

[Colapop]

Thanks again all.

I don't understand why he needed to make a swan neck turn (out and then around and in). I've driven, and still drive, large 10t+ trucks and only rarely needed to use that manouver. This guy was driving a VW Golf GTI FFS! Fuck those things must have a shit turning circle.

And for the record, I'm not a violent person unless provoked. I help old lady's cross the street, get kittens out of trees and reunite lost children with their parents.

[madmal64]

Mate! just caught up with the post!
Glad to hear you are still above ground & breathing and relatively unscathed:yes:
You may be surprised at the cost to repair your baby. It could be a write off. Having similar looking damage to my RF just on a year ago and it was a gonner!
So may its time to get the bike mags out and do some shopping?

[nudemetalz]

If you renew, then go for a big v-twin (Italian of course).
I'm sure Madmal64 will agree with me here !!

[Colapop]

Fairings will be the cost killer I reckon. The rest is pretty good. I've been offered a set of indicators and have an engineer to do welding and straightening. The fairings I'll have a talk to Crazefox about (he's just down the road) and we'll see how we go from there. The missus won't be keen on me upgrading so soon - but, darn it, I may just HAVE to!

[Indiana_Jones]

Get a Triumph, mate :D

-Indy

[madmal64]

If you renew, then go for a big v-twin (Italian of course).
I'm sure Madmal64 will agree with me here !!

Of course I agree! Want to buy a Falco? Ive got a hankering for a new RSVR!
Col Ive got the costings from mine, fairings, decals etc if you want I can email them through to you. PM me your details if you want them. That will give you a good idea on the replacement costs for the busted bits.

[nudemetalz]

The missus won't be keen on me upgrading so soon - but, darn it, I may just HAVE to!

Mine wasn't keen either but I was allowed only on the condition that I had the Guzzi for minimum of 5 years. Didn't say anything about mods to it though.... ;)

[dawnrazor]

And WTF is up with people indicating right to go straight through a roundabout?

don't see anything wrong with this, in fact its the law universally isn't it, makes sense to me...

[dawnrazor]

good to hear your okay CP, that could have been an up and over if you hadn't wiped off most of your speed before contact...did something similiar myself years ago, but came to a very gentle stop right by the drivers windows, poor woman didn't have a clue what had nearly happened as she was doing her hair in the mirror, I think she thought I was trying to jack her car or something.....

[dawnrazor]

Fairings will be the cost killer I reckon. The rest is pretty good. I've been offered a set of indicators and have an engineer to do welding and straightening. The fairings I'll have a talk to Crazefox about (he's just down the road) and we'll see how we go from there. The missus won't be keen on me upgrading so soon - but, darn it, I may just HAVE to!

might be time for an RF streetfighter!

[gijoe1313]

Ay caramba Cola! You turning into an asian on us? All that bad riding/driving is a no-no! :lol: Glad to hear you okay - suprised that you weren't logging this in from a cell after dealing to the idjit (okay, both you and him are idjits! :doh:)

I think it may be time for you to get a Hornet? :whistle: Actually, scratch that...you'll only lower the image of Hornet riders :dodge:

So, did your missus slap you upside the head for not being killed, and worse, costing $$'s that should have been spent elsewheres? :whistle:

Bugger dude, but bikes can be bought, yer bodyparts a little more harder to source :sick:

[Colapop]

Of course I agree! Want to buy a Falco?
Wanna sell it to me for $1? If that's the case then - Yup :yes:

Ay caramba Cola! You turning into an asian on us? All that bad riding/driving is a no-no! :lol: Glad to hear you okay - suprised that you weren't logging this in from a cell after dealing to the idjit (okay, both you and him are idjits! :doh:)

I think it may be time for you to get a Hornet? :whistle: Actually, scratch that...you'll only lower the image of Hornet riders :dodge:

So, did your missus slap you upside the head for not being killed, and worse, costing $$'s that should have been spent elsewheres? :whistle:

Bugger dude, but bikes can be bought, yer bodyparts a little more harder to source :sick:
Yu Asin bwitch! In my cuntwy, I vely good wider. Hornet is big bee - easy to kirl wif fry spay! Yu come my shop, I make good dear for yu. Wen yu get big ricense yu bi nice bike in my shop. Hokay dokay?

[gijoe1313]

Wanna sell it to me for $1? If that's the case then - Yup :yes:

Yu Asin bwitch! In my cuntwy, I vely good wider. Hornet is big bee - easy to kirl wif fry spay! Yu come my shop, I make good dear for yu. Wen yu get big ricense yu bi nice bike in my shop. Hokay dokay?

Why I feel rike yu are used car salesman? Yu stay away from asian gurl! Yu big-nosed, sweaty gweilou!

And fluck yu and the cow yu rode in on!

Relember pleeple, Corapop is bad man, he eat all yor flied lice and sniff gurly pantii, he no nice to take home to meet yor daughter! Aiyah! :angry2:

[Smokin]

Damn mate, Thats no good at all.
Hope the bikes not a write off and it's great you were able to walk away from the accident.

[RT527]

just to help clear it up.....
Before entering a roundabout you must indicate if you are intending to exit left or right – if you’re going straight ahead, don’t indicate.

You must give way to all traffic that will cross your path from your right as you enter the roundabout.

You then need to signal left as you pass the exit before the one you intend taking.

At multi-lane roundabouts, you also need to approach and enter the roundabout in the correct lane for where you intend to exit.


Also you must give way to all traffic on a round a bout as technically they are coming from your right...happens to me all the time, ill enter a roundabout and some on from my right appears after i have moved off ..Ie: they have driven up to the roundabout and continued on with out slowing down and because Im large and heavy and takes a while to get up to speed they quite often end up waiting on the roundabout for me to continue , and to top it off they give me the fingers and yell abuse...however I am on the roundabout so they have to give way to me lol.
And....http://www.landtransport.govt.nz/road-user-safety/new-road-rules/

[Jantar]

....and because Im large and heavy ...they have to give way to me lol.

And I believe your truck is too.. :dodge:

[Scorpygirl]

Sorry matey only just caught up with this thread. Glad you are OK. :yes: Blimey I thought you were invisible!!! :love:

[pinkhoggirl]

All KBers know (or should know) that I LIKE HUGS! I try to be gentle with the girls & DMNTD (he's a bitch anyway) and the guys should be man enough to handle them.

As far as 'The Shitfight' goes, I'm pretty unconcerned. If it goes against me then I'll offer to pay... of course I'll only pay at $5/week forever and a day. If they want more it'll cost them more than its worth to recover the money. I can be as much of a prick as anybody. Just glad I didn't give the guy any personal details at all. If the police attend all you are obliged to give is the incident number (and you don't even have to give that). Gone are the days of swapping numbers and all that bullshit.

Hey big guy - just saw this - bloody bad luck mate. :gob: ..I may even be brave enough to give you a hug next time...Long as you don't squeeze...GLAD you're in one piece and here to talk about it....ya shoulda picked the dude up and chucked him....you could, I just know ya could...:yes:
Take care mate.

[Colapop]

Thanks babes... I got special gentle hugs for you two when I see you...

[KATWYN]

Wanna sell it to me for $1? If that's the case then - Yup :yes:

Yu Asin bwitch! In my cuntwy, I vely good wider. Hornet is big bee - easy to kirl wif fry spay! Yu come my shop, I make good dear for yu. Wen yu get big ricense yu bi nice bike in my shop. Hokay dokay?

:laugh: at the above

I hope your shoulders not giving you too much grief today Cola

[Colapop]

A bit sore, had acupunture, and ultrasound. My girls at the physio gave me a shifty slip-me-in appointment today... :Punk:

If you live in Welly and need a physio get your arse along to Sport and Workfit on Featherston St. If it's ACC it's free (only charge for needles if they stab you - which is great BTW)

[RT527]

And I believe your truck is too.. :dodge:

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA didn't realize it came out that way good one!

[Insanity_rules]

Why I feel rike yu are used car salesman? Yu stay away from asian gurl! Yu big-nosed, sweaty gweilou!

And fluck yu and the cow yu rode in on!

Relember pleeple, Corapop is bad man, he eat all yor flied lice and sniff gurly pantii, he no nice to take home to meet yor daughter! Aiyah! :angry2:
:rofl: you consistanly crack me up GI, You funny long time!

[heavenly.talker]

Sorry to hear that you had an off Cola. Glad to hear that you relatively well and the bike isn't too munted.

Take care
Heavenly

[Shadows]

My girls at the physio gave me a shifty slip-me-in appointment today... :Punk:

Woooohooo sounds like my kind of physio! How much?

[heyjoe]

Hey Cola,

Sorry to hear about your incident. It's good to hear you have not come out with any serious injuries.

Seems to me like your opponent doesn't know how to keep aware of what's going on around him (in the mirror) when he's in the middle of traffic and has forgotten about normal road courtesy like indicating a change in direction. These are all simple things to remember and do eh?

In my view - not much of a human being if he doesn't even check to see if a rider is okay first before launching another assault about insurance. I guess he just got it wrong again... wanker.

Hope all the scrapes and bruises heal soon and you get the bike fixed without too much breaking the bank.

[Colapop]

Woooohooo sounds like my kind of physio! How much?
If it is a ACC claim, it's free. 499 6113. Jan is the receptionist tell her Col told you to call her Janice - she'll love you for it!

Shoulder is still sore but hey nothing that a bit of sun and booze won't fix. Did I say I was off to the 7's?

[Shadows]

If it is a ACC claim, it's free. 499 6113. Jan is the receptionist tell her Col told you to call her Janice - she'll love you for it!


Wicked!!!
I didn't know "shifty, slip me in" type treatment was claimable under ACC!
Don't you go ending up with a sore back as well!

[Edbear]

...and because Im large and heavy and takes a while to get up to speed...



At least that's wot I tells the Missus, anyways...

[RantyDave]

might be time for an RF streetfighter!
Yeah, streetfighter the bitch. Some duly terrifying bits of welded on angle iron and the world's your oyster.

Glad you're OK, but agree that you might be on shaky ground with this one. Also agree that the reaper cares not whose fault it is and I'm just glad you walked away.

Dave

[Colapop]

Well apparently it MY fault :mad: because during emergency breaking and while trying to ensure my life was not put in danger by the fucking idiot who decided to drive in front me I avoided him - I get fucking fined. It's not the fact that I've been fined $150 (extremely light considering what it could have been - both fines and injuries) but for the fact that the cunt who drove in front of me gets off scott free.

Motherfuckingassholecuntshitlickingbuttwiperetard! !
I'm fucking pissed off right now!

*deep breath*:mad:
*deep breath*:mad:
*deep breath*:mad:

stay calm... :mad: still fucking :mad:

[Trudes]

I know there's nothing I can say to make you feel better, so I'll just give you an IOU for a hug next time I see ya!:sunny:

[BarBender]

Sorry to hear big fella.
Suck it in...one breath at a time...
I've got family in Wellington so dont go godzillarizing the place up!!!

[madmal64]

Well at least you got that off your chest Col! Feel better now? Even a little bit?
Good.
Oh BTW whats the haps with the scooter? Rebuild or not?

[Chickadee]

Well apparently it MY fault :mad: because during emergency breaking and while trying to ensure my life was not put in danger by the fucking idiot who decided to drive in front me I avoided him - I get fucking fined. It's not the fact that I've been fined $150 (extremely light considering what it could have been - both fines and injuries) but for the fact that the cunt who drove in front of me gets off scott free.

Motherfuckingassholecuntshitlickingbuttwiperetard! !
I'm fucking pissed off right now!

*deep breath*:mad:
*deep breath*:mad:
*deep breath*:mad:

stay calm... :mad: still fucking :mad:

What was the fine for? Shish! What were the dudes that fined you thinking (or smoking!). Surely this is beyond reason!!!! I can see why your farked off.

[Macktheknife]

Actually Col, you could go into/call the station and see the cop who attended the accident and ask why they have failed to charge him with failing to give the required 3 seconds indication.
It may not get you far but it might give him a ticket for failing to indicate etc or something similar.
Best of luck mate, failing that, we can do a whip around and see if we can get a can of whoop-ass for him.:bash: :bash: :ar15: :chase: :spanking: :spanking:

[Drum]

That sux Col. Real disappointing.

[kiwifruit]

wow, thats poos

nice to know the system is working :mellow:

[gijoe1313]

Ah bugger it ... now Colapop, you know what happens when large testyrony guys like you start to lose it ... :dodge: Just take deep breath and think of when you get your bike back to riding status...and able to feel those two wheels of freedom!

You didn't end up with serious injuries, it only costed you some coin - you have my sympathies! Tell ya what, I'll make a special pootle down Wellywood just to visit you one day! Hows that sound big fella? And I'll see if I can't con Zapf to see you as well!

Checkout the pimp'n photo of you and your love child...doesn't it make you feel gooey and all squiggy inside now? :love:

Breath out the hate, let in the love...
Breath out the pain, let in the calm...
Breath out the fear, let in the light...

See, better you are! Hmm!

[heyjoe]

Actually Col, you could go into/call the station and see the cop who attended the accident and ask why they have failed to charge him with failing to give the required 3 seconds indication.
It may not get you far but it might give him a ticket for failing to indicate etc or something similar.
Best of luck mate, failing that, we can do a whip around and see if we can get a can of whoop-ass for him.:bash: :bash: :ar15: :chase: :spanking: :spanking:

+ 1... what he said!

[Trudes]

:killingme To that photo Gijoe, that's a keeper!!

[yungatart]

Mate, that is not fair, nor is it right!
Hugs for you....

[Colapop]

Well at least you got that off your chest Col! Feel better now? Even a little bit?
Good.
Oh BTW whats the haps with the scooter? Rebuild or not?
I'm much calmer today... Ooouuhhmmmm..... *breath in* *breath out*

Thanks to this place! Where else can I vent without actually hurting anyone??!?

As far as 'Ma Cookie' (the RF) goes... I have started to replace parts and she'll be ready to go in a couple of weeks (I hope).
I have bought some parts in Auckland and they are expected to be delivered next week. The front fairing frame is being repaired/rebuilt, and the radiator is due for repair this week. Fork seals are coming and I have an offer to help me rebuild those in short order. The headlight fairing is due to be glued in short order. All up so far including glue - $350. Sheer dumb luck more than good fortune .... - the generosity of the wonderful folks here at KB.

[Guitana]

Cheer up BIG GUY we'll see you right!!!!!

[Hitcher]

Mate, that is not fair, nor is it right!

Like Beyonce's left tit.

[Bend-it]

Cheer up BIG GUY we'll see you right!!!!!

at iTM...

Sorry, just had to... :dodge:

[Lissa]

Yea sorry to hear about that col... you can group hug with the ladies at the show on the 10th if it makes you feel better. :)

[yungatart]

Like Beyonce's left tit.

I was thinking more along the lines of a black man's left cheek - but, hey, whatever floats your boat! (Beyonce, I'm surprised, Mr H)

[Guitana]

at iTM...

Sorry, just had to... :dodge:

No worries I thought the same after I posted it Fucken commercial jingles!!!!

[Bend-it]

I rode past another green RF sometime in the past week in town! I didn't think yours had resurrected, so there must be a 3rd twin!

[Colapop]

Hitcher - You cotton farm owner! Got a hankering to sneak off to the slave quarters?

Lissa - How about I just stand in the middle and all the ladies can hug all over me....?

Bend-it - Yep I've seen it too (can't be all that uncommon I suppose) still makes me look though...

[j_redley]

Old thread, but glad to hear that it wasn't a member of this lovely forum who got hurt.

[Bend-it]

Only his feelings got hurt... Col's just a softie under his helmet and gear... (That's what they say!!) ;)

[Lissa]

Lissa - How about I just stand in the middle and all the ladies can hug all over me....?
If that makes YOU happy col.. sure thing!! Will put it on our agenda for the day.:yes:

[Colapop]

This is prior to trying gear on...? Sort of in the in between stage...

[Maha]

Col's just a softie under his helmet and gear...


Ah Ahhhhhhh hes hard, well when he gets around certain people he is.....:sweatdrop
There was this one time!......at band camp!....:shutup:

[Clivoris]

Lissa - How about I just stand in the middle and all the ladies can hug all over me....?


Dude, let me know if you have enough love-handles for them all to hold onto. I'm always happy to help a brother in need out:innocent:

[magicfairy]

You only indicate right when approaching a roundabout if you are going right

There were some changes with the new road rules a couple of years ago, this info is direct from Police, part of a powerpoint presentation for LTNZ and Police to explain new rules.

"Before entering a roundabout, indicate if exiting left or right (if you’re going straight ahead, don’t indicate)
Give way to all traffic that will cross your path from your right as you enter the roundabout
Signal left as you pass the exit before the one you intend taking.
On multi-lane roundabouts, you also need to approach and enter the roundabout in the correct lane for where you intend to exit"

[Colapop]

Dude, let me know if you have enough love-handles for them all to hold onto. I'm always happy to help a brother in need out:innocent:
Always welcome support from fellow bikers. Thanks but I'm more than man enough for all of them.

Oh and did I mention I'm modest?

[crazybigal]

mate who is doing your front fairing? i have a headlight and the mounting. + i have a full intact deep metalic red front fairing. i know yours is green. how badly smashed is yours?, the fairing frame has to be spoton! lots of we screws to line up! the one at the front for the black cover under the windscreen is the worst.

[Toaster]

Apparently its the law now.

Clarification: It's no indication going into the roundabout then indicate left if going straight ahead. Right indication only ever if going right of the opposing lane.

[The Pastor]

Sorry dude, but why were you following him so close? the 3 second rule applies so that if somone has to brake/move like a dickhead, you don't smash into him.

Its very easy to ignore this rule around the suburbs. Remeber this rule ias well as the 3 second rule, "your a dick if you over take in the suburbs/citys."

Overtaking somone in the suburbs/citys is not going to get you to your destination quicker, only running reds will. (but don't do it)

[sinned]

There were some changes with the new road rules a couple of years ago, this info is direct from Police, part of a powerpoint presentation for LTNZ and Police to explain new rules.

"Before entering a roundabout, indicate if exiting left or right (if you’re going straight ahead, don’t indicate)
Give way to all traffic that will cross your path from your right as you enter the roundabout
Signal left as you pass the exit before the one you intend taking.
On multi-lane roundabouts, you also need to approach and enter the roundabout in the correct lane for where you intend to exit"

What is the rule for three exit roundabouts? Do you indicate if exiting the second exit, which in many roundabouts can effectively be straight through? Coming from the other direction it is first left and few people indicate.

[Colapop]

Sorry dude, but why were you following him so close? the 3 second rule applies so that if somone has to brake/move like a dickhead, you don't smash into him.

Its very easy to ignore this rule around the suburbs. Remeber this rule ias well as the 3 second rule, "your a dick if you over take in the suburbs/citys."

Overtaking somone in the suburbs/citys is not going to get you to your destination quicker, only running reds will. (but don't do it)
I wasn't following that closely. I came over the crest over a hill and he was slowing at that time. I also slowed while approaching him and moved slightly to the left to avoid the possible obstruction (Ha!). Unfortunately he turned directly across my path, indicating only at the time of turning.

[The Pastor]

well then your, not in the wrong. Take it to the danger zone.

[Colapop]

Yeah I was. The law clearly states that you are not allowed to pass on the left. It says that you may pass only when the way is clear. I checked.

[crazefox]

MAte your front fairing has had some crazefox magic and is looking sexual almost ready for primer so i hope not too far away for you my friend.:rockon:

[terbang]

Bad news indeed and its all to common that the biker gets the shafting for undertaking or something. Stand yer ground, he didn't indicate early enough and he moved right to turn left confusing you..Have fun

[knight rider]

colapop was the guys name piers?

[Colapop]

Yeah I think so...?

Just an update..
The insurance company are taking me to court to recover costs. I have all my evidence ready and will go to court to fight them (ok it's more like arbitration - but I'll call it court) If they win I will pay them off.. $1/month if I can... unless the court orders a full settlement.

[gijoe1313]

All the best matey when it comes to the hearing! I know you'll do a spiffy wind-up and a closing along the lines of Boston Legal! "Hi, I'm Colapop..."

[McJim]

Isn't the hug still legal tender down wellington way?

Best of luck Col.

[Clivoris]

Good luck bro.

[yungatart]

Best of luck, Col!

[NZsarge]

Best of luck with the arbitration hearing:yes: