Runner 200 or GT200?

[Dave Lobster]

Anyone tried both?

The Runner feels nicer to sit on in the shop, but what makes the GT worth $1000 more? It looks like it'll be very uncomfy on the back. And slower too.

thanks

[MisterD]

There shouldn't be any significant difference in performance since it's the exact same motor in there.

The cost difference is probably down to the fact that the GT200 is a metal monocoque body but the runner is a tubular frame with plastic bits bolted to it.

Ride both and make your own mind up, cos all owners of GTs and Runners that I know love em.

***edit***
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[Dave Lobster]

Thanks.

Real scooter coming over the weekend, I hope. Just need to get it registered. And jetted..

[MisterD]

Real scooter? Is that it in your avatar?

[Dave Lobster]

No no.. that's Flea's.

Mine has the proper engine in it.:innocent:

[MisterD]

Argh, ya cryptic bugger. Whatcha got?

[Dave Lobster]

Ah... No clues.. :)

Anyway... Are there any of the new shape Runners on the road yet??

[texmo]

1. chicken coop 2 thumbs up

Insult used to discribe the Vespa (ha ha) scooter due to it's ugliness and comparisons to a laquered snail.

1. You chicken coop riding queer.
2. Lets set that chicken coop on fire, it offends me.
3. I'd rather drink my own vomit than ride a chicken coop.
4. Thats a fast coop, it passed me doing 15 miles per hour.

wtf?

[MisterD]

1. chicken coop 2 thumbs up

wtf?

It's a Lammy rider thing Googie....Coops are for Chickens...geddit?

[MisterD]

Ah... No clues.. :)

Anyway... Are there any of the new shape Runners on the road yet??

Frothing denied!

No, not seen any new shape around yet, Motomail had one on display at Scooterfest though. I'm still undecided about the bigger front wheel.

If I was getting a new twistngo, I think I'd have a GT I'm too used to all that useful space inside the legshields...hmm really should de-mothball the ET

[Dave Lobster]

I'm not assed about the size of the wheels. Just want something convenient for going to work on, and for the missus to sit on the back of in comfort. We had one of the older Runner 200s a couple of years ago, but swopped it for a bike. We didn't need one for work.. and it just sat in the garage gathering dust. That was ok. Hardly used any fuel, and was fast enough with both of us on.
I'd considered a new coop for a couple of minutes, but they're too slow, and the Runner has to be worth an extra $1000. The GT I'm not so sure is worth another $1000. I rode one of the first ones that came out, and that was very underwhelming. The newer ones are supposed to be quicker.. but I've not had a go on one.

[texmo]

Get an lx150, pick of the bunch.

[Dave Lobster]

Get an lx150, pick of the bunch.

The indian PX clone?

Nah, I'd rather have something that goes round corners, and doesn't feel as though it's being steered from the top of a ladder.

[Flatcap]

It's a Lammy rider thing Googie....Coops are for Chickens...geddit?

I will have none of that until I see that Lammy of yours out of the shed MisterD.....

[MisterD]

The indian PX clone?

Nah, I'd rather have something that goes round corners, and doesn't feel as though it's being steered from the top of a ladder.

The LX is the replacement for the ET, probably a little bit small if you're planning on doing a lot of 2-up riding.

[MisterD]

I will have none of that until I see that Lammy of yours out of the shed MisterD.....

You offering to babysit?

[Flatcap]

The indian PX clone?

Nah, I'd rather have something that goes round corners, and doesn't feel as though it's being steered from the top of a ladder.


You say that as if there is something wrong with it.....

all part of the charm

Of course, a lammy will only go round corners when it is running..

[Flatcap]

You offering to babysit?

Not after last nights shenanigans from young MasterD. (MrsD has been talking to Mrs F again)

[MisterD]

Of course, a lammy will only go round corners when it is running..

How many Lammys have seized on Auckland's Mways in the last year....and how many Bellas?

[Dave Lobster]

ETs are just mopeds though, aren't they?

[Dave Lobster]

How many Lammys have seized on Auckland's Mways in the last year....and how many Bellas?

Would that be because Lambretta owners tend to know what they're doing?

[texmo]

ETs are just mopeds though, aren't they?

LX150 as in 150cc. You can get kits for them. They handel a lot better than the gt200 or runner IMHO. If your going to tour the the gt200 but if your going places only and hour or so away then the Lx150 is more than sutiable.

[MisterD]

LX150 as in 150cc.

ETs and LXs come in 50cc 2T and 125(UK) / 150cc (everywhere else) 4T versions. As Texmo says, you can get kits for them (I have a 187cc Malossi cylinder on my aforemention ET).

Go and see Goetz at Scooter E Motion in Eden Terrace, he's the man for Piaggio / Gilera stuff in Auckland.

[Flatcap]

How many Lammys have seized on Auckland's Mways in the last year....and how many Bellas?

Pish - it's just the law of averages

[JeremyW]

Personally I think the runner is a significantly better loooking bike.
And if you were going for the GT200 you should just go for the GTS250 anyway because its a freakin awesome scooter! 100km/h is a sinch, it will cruise all day, and probably with two people.

Admittedly I havent ridden a GT200 so I may be just blabbing but I was certainly impressed by the GTS250

[MisterD]

The issue with the GTS is whether it really is that much better than the GT. Personally I'd be put off by the fact that the electronic ignition needs a laptop to service....

[ICE180]

The runner that I have got is a 2T one and does 100kmh easy with 2up
And yes before it was breathed on with extra biits.

I rode a Gt200 once it was extremly breathed on and it handled completly different to the runner

[Morcs]

Go the Runner, especially the new one.

Im in the opinion that the 'new retro' type scoots are just horrid and wrong.

[Pogo2]

Called in to Motomail today and drooled over the Runner. Certainly gets my vote on looks (at this stage), but would like to have a test ride on one! Vespas, whilst likely to be technically advanced, are not really my thing as I'm not into the "traditional" scooter look.

And as for the Gilera Nexus - thats a whole new category again :yes:

[Morcs]

The runner and vespa share the same engine pretty much, as well as a few other parts as they are both made by Piaggio.


I hope this helps.

[Flatcap]

Called in to Motomail today and drooled over the Runner. Certainly gets my vote on looks (at this stage), but would like to have a test ride on one! Vespas, whilst likely to be technically advanced, are not really my thing as I'm not into the "traditional" scooter look.

And as for the Gilera Nexus - thats a whole new category again :yes:


If you are into insane scooter looks, if I was you I would wait until the new Italjet Dragster comes out later this year

[Dave Lobster]

The issue with the GTS is whether it really is that much better than the GT. Personally I'd be put off by the fact that the electronic ignition needs a laptop to service....

Surely that's a reason it is better. Choose your own ignition map.. and someone must make a programme that you can adjust all your fueling with. They make them for T595s, so knocking one up for a vesper shouldn't be too hard. You'd never need to pay for dyno time again..




And as for the Gilera Nexus - thats a whole new category again :yes:

I've ridden one of those. Back to back with a T max. T max is MUCH better. Far more comfy. But neither a whole lot of use in town. Too long. And for the money, a motorbike (for me) is a better bet. But I've already got one of those, and I'm not going to be using that for going to work, or two up.

[Pogo2]

I've ridden one of those. Back to back with a T max. T max is MUCH better. Far more comfy. But neither a whole lot of use in town. Too long. And for the money, a motorbike (for me) is a better bet. But I've already got one of those, and I'm not going to be using that for going to work, or two up.

You're right they are like a motorbike. I looked at the 650 Burgman but at $16K you are in serious motorbike country. Thats why I like the look of the Runner - slightly bigger engine but retains the scooter profile. My ideal scooter is my current one (PGO T-Rex 150) but with a bigger motor so that it can handle the odd motorway section or two i.e the Runner would be ideal. Still I would have to ride it to be sure - just dreaming really at this stage.