What kinda hand shaker are you?

[KATWYN]

If I could do poll I would, but any comments would be
appreciated

Hand shakes to me are first impressions of a person.
Does anyone actually acknowledge if they are a "wet rag" (limp) hand
shaker? you know the kind where you get a handful of dangly loose
fingers in your hand when you shake hands. If anyone is, I want
to know WHY they do it!! (excluding people that are being considerate
to the other person like a man not wanting to hurt a woman for example)
woman do it to woman so whats their excuse?
I find it quite offensive,I would rather not shake hands with someone that gives out a message that they can't be bothered (I have also found personally that a "wet ragger" almost always prove to be just like their handshake)

And all those strong handshakers - gosh what a relief when you get
one of those types

I wonder if there is information on the different types of handshakes
and what they mean??

[James Deuce]

If I could do poll I would, but any comments would be
appreciated

Hand shakes to me are first impressions of a person.
Does anyone actually acknowledge if they are a "wet rag" hand
shaker? you know the kind where you get a handful of dangly loose
fingers in your hand when you shake hands. If anyone is, I want
to know WHY they do it!! I find it quite offensive,I would rather not
shake hands with someone that gives out a message that they can't
be bothered (I have also found personally that a "wet ragger" almost always prove to be just like their handshake)

And all those strong handshakers - gosh what a relief when you get
one of those types

I wonder if there is information on the different types of handshakes
and what they mean??

I get irritated by bastards who grab your fingers before you can successfully complete a palm to palm hand shake.

I try to be firm, but I've both over and under done it in the past. (Stop giggling)

[KATWYN]

I get irritated by bastards who grab your fingers before you can successfully complete a palm to palm hand shake.

I try to be firm, but I've both over and under done it in the past. (Stop giggling)


I wouldn't have guessed you as a limp handshaker Jim, is that what you
mean by "under done it" ?

[riffer]

I'm the kind of bloke that likes a good firm grip.... :msn-wink:

[greenhorn]

I too hate the wet ragger handshakes but there is one i find even worse, perhaps you've expereinced it. If you havent its hard to understand just how mind numbingly aggrivating (sp) it is...
You offer your hand in normal fashion, that is your thumb is basically pointing up in the air, then they put thier hand out kind of horizontally forcing you to turn your hand over, palm upwards. Its flamin ridiculous and annoying. I read somewhere its some kind of pathetic dominance type phsyco pathetic dumb ego i'm top dog know your place be subservient to me type mind game b.s. :angry2: :angry2: :angry2:
If anyone knows the type of handshake im talking about i'd like to know what you think too.

Only marginally worse that the wet ragger

[KATWYN]

If anyone knows the type of handshake im talking about i'd like to know what you think too.



I've heard of that one recently actually - and what it means. But I have
never experienced that particular one. But have heard it is a REALLY bad
one

[James Deuce]

I wouldn't have guessed you as a limp handshaker Jim, is that what you
mean by "under done it" ?

Yeah, more often than not I'm too gentle when shaking hands with women. I've crunched a few hand bones before and it has put me off being too firm when shaking hands with women.

[James Deuce]

I too hate the wet ragger handshakes but there is one i find even worse, perhaps you've expereinced it. If you havent its hard to understand just how mind numbingly aggrivating (sp) it is...
You offer your hand in normal fashion, that is your thumb is basically pointing up in the air, then they put thier hand out kind of horizontally forcing you to turn your hand over, palm upwards. Its flamin ridiculous and annoying. I read somewhere its some kind of pathetic dominance type phsyco pathetic dumb ego i'm top dog know your place be subservient to me type mind game b.s. :angry2: :angry2: :angry2:
If anyone knows the type of handshake im talking about i'd like to know what you think too.

Only marginally worse that the wet ragger

Fight back mate. Bullies hate that.

[wkid_one]

Yeah - I am a firm handshaker and prefer my hand on top!

Working in my industry - it is also a contest to see who can squeeze whos hand the hardest when you shake hands.

I hate the two hand handshake or the handshake with the other hand on your upper arm.

I hate it more tho when you miss the handshake and don't connect properly.

[KATWYN]

Yeah, more often than not I'm too gentle when shaking hands with women. I've crunched a few hand bones before and it has put me off being too firm when shaking hands with women.

Oh ok thats understandable.

But i've shaken a lot of woman wet raggers. So what is their excuse!

[Motoracer]

Handshake with guys? no worries! Give it a firm one and that’s that.

Chix is the same but sometimes they keep it a bit too soft, and I have to re-think if I should be more gentle as well. Also another one is where the ladies just give you their hand with the palm pointed down and fingers semi-curled (like as if they wanted you to kiss their hand). On the right occasion, OK kissing the hand is appropriate but what about when meeting someone during a business meeting or some other professional environment etc etc. At thoes times I just hold their hand and give it a wiggle, looking like a complete moron! :blink:

What am I to do? :confused:

[KATWYN]

I hate it more tho when you miss the handshake and don't connect properly.

Or when theres four of you and you all go to shake at the same time
with four hands meeting in the middle! Timing is crucial really. Wait two
seconds more and it won't happen

[750Y]

if anyone has shaken hands with FF you will know the meaning of a firm handshake(eh dave) lol.

[Motoracer]

if anyone has shaken hands with FF you will know the meaning of a firm handshake(eh dave) lol.

LOL, he's a good hand shaker!

[V Twin Raver]

You offer your hand in normal fashion, that is your thumb is basically pointing up in the air, then they put thier hand out kind of horizontally forcing you to turn your hand over, palm upwards. Its flamin ridiculous and annoying. I read somewhere its some kind of pathetic dominance type phsyco pathetic dumb ego i'm top dog know your place be subservient to me type mind game b.s. :angry2: :angry2: :angry2:
If anyone knows the type of handshake im talking about i'd like to know what you think too.

With this type of person, you are meant to shake there hand by grapping it from the top and that way they get a kind of backward, upside down handshake. They are left knowing that they are a f'wit and that you are a clever bastard but acknowledge that by wanting to punch you in the nose..........but they don't cos they aleady feel stink.

Also like someone said, the person that shakes your fingers because they are so keen to shake your hand and don't properly connect - that shits me cos you kind of give off that your a wet fish shaker.

I am a mechanic by trade so we kind of forget how hard our grip is and tend to crush hands accidentally. I like it when I can foot it with the best of them, like dude with mits like Colin Meads!!

[wkid_one]

Fuck yes - when handshaking - your hands should come together like the front rows of a bledisloe cup match.

[jrandom]

I like to think I offer the perfect handshake experience. Firm, dry, vertically orientated and accompanied by a warm smile and brief, unchallenging eye contact.

I've met the type that seem to want to out-crush you; I generally just crush back, which seems to do the trick. Likewise with the upper-hand type; I just bring in the shoulder muscles and wrench it back round. I don't like being dominated...

Shaking hands with ladies is an entirely different matter. Can't say I've ever had one present her hand palm-down 'kiss me' style, but it only seems to be the well-practiced professional female types that actually don't mind shaking hands and have any sort of technique down pat.

[Darryboy]

Also like someone said, the person that shakes your fingers because they are so keen to shake your hand and don't properly connect - that shits me cos you kind of give off that your a wet fish shaker.

I reckon that's the worst!
Especially as it makes you wet fish it.

[Hitcher]

I get irritated by bastards who grab your fingers before you can successfully complete a palm to palm hand shake.
Me too! My father-in-law gets me by the fingers every time!

[Motu]

I hate the whole handshake thing - but I was brought up in the firm handshake generation....I knew when I was a man when I could meet my uncle without my hand collapsing.

Limp fingers only seems very common these days,and I gotta say Indians excell in them.They all seem very eager to shake your hand,it's a must do,but then present damp limp fingers - like is this some sort of cultural insult we are on the receiving end of?

I have an ace up my sleeve - my hands are seldom in a shake worthy state,but hey,if you insist...go for it!

Girls?....oh,I wish....

[FROSTY]

The whole handshake thing is such a minefeild I try to avoid it.
I prefer a single firm shake without the crush thing.

[KATWYN]

Limp fingers only seems very common these days,and I gotta say Indians excell in them.

Or not at all!.... We had a business meeting with an indian that had
come over from India (1st time in NZ) and he reluctantly shook my
hand when I held it out .(but he shook the guys hand no problem) -then went on to tell me in the meeting to "take notes" :laugh:

I thought, you are in NZ now leave your woman hating attitude
back in India. :kick:

[vifferman]

Or not at all!.... We had a business meeting with an indian that had
come over from India (1st time in NZ) and he reluctantly shook my
hand when I held it out .(but he shook the guys hand no problem) -then went on to tell me in the meeting to "take notes" :laugh:

I thought, you are in NZ now leave your woman hating attitude
back in India....and then kicked him in the nuts and said "take note"? :laugh:

It sounds as though there's a rough consensus here - we all (apart from those who are overly competitive / have too much testosterone / are unsure about their masculinity) hate limpies, wet fish, two-hand shakers, and bullies.

And I can't say I'm too keen on trendy handshakes, like pretending you're one of the bros from the 'hood and gettin' down widdit. Or secret handshakes. Or overly long ones (unless it's a woman [like that would ever happen])

[KATWYN]

...and then kicked him in the nuts and said "take note"? :laugh:

thx Firestormer, it reminded me to add that funny icon to it

[Hoon]

You can still present a firm hand shake without any actual squeezing. You just need to tense your hand up instead. I use to do the squeeze but too often I'd lapse and crush some poor girls hand...not a good move when meeting potential customers during business meetings. Also after mixed touch games you really have to pay attention when shaking hands with the other team.

[k14]

Yeah, I dont ever go for the hard hand shake, but try to be firm. Although with women I tend to be fairly soft, don't want to hurt them. If someone shakes my hand so hard it hurts I just get pissed off at them, don't care if it proves they are "masculine."

I have seen a program on TV about human behaviour and it had a segment about hand shaking. There are heaps of different techniques and they all correspond to what type of person the hand shaker is. Quite interesting but I can't remember much of what they said.

[erik]

I'd rather encounter a limp handshake than a crushing one. I hate arseholes that try to crush your hand, I mean the handshake is supposed to show you are friendly or something, it's not a competition of who's more macho.

[moko]

They all seem very eager to shake your hand,it's a must do,but then present damp limp fingers - like is this some sort of cultural insult we are on the receiving end of?


Yes,they`ve just taken a piss and that particular shake is known as "Gandhi`s revenge"

[Ms Piggy]

I'm definitely a firm handshaker - I've never thought about top or bottom before though...either or really, I'm easy to please.

I HATE wet fish handshakes or people who just grab the tips of your fingers....WTF is that all about! :mad:

[Hitcher]

Another handshaking style I really hate is the Alpha male "I'm going to get my hand on top of yours". The last guy who tried that one got a real fright and nearly a broken wrist. Dickhead.

[Milky]

Wet fishes do annoy me, but I dont think it is the hand grip that defines a 'wet fish' so much as the stiffness of the arm. I am one for the single firm shake with a light grip.
With some females it seems to work to clasp rather than shake, and acknowledge the meeting with an longer period of eyecontact or a few words instead. I guess it depends what is presented to you...

[Two Smoker]

i pretty much think all the same as what has been said, Dave (F/F) has a good firm handshake, but i met this guy from Tauraunga and he cracked ever single one of my knuckles and i was giving one of my really firm handshakes too, but he was 6 foot 5 and weighed about 120kgs......

[Motu]

I used to know a guy who was a pretty good hand shaker - when rolling a smoke he used to trap one arm under a crossed leg so the bakky didn't spill on the floor,watching him light it was scary though...

[Jackrat]

I like a firm handshake but I know at lest one Ozy bike club member that don't.This guy had more rings than a dozen assholes.
I enjoyed really giving him a good squeeze an watching his face turn gray as his rings dug into his fingers. Must'a really bloody hurt:killingme
The price of being a tuff guy huh.

[Posh Tourer :P]

Ugh.... wet fish... horrible.....

Working in labs while wearing gloves often precludes the hand-shaking business, but a firm handshake is a good one.... FF, you've gotta be right up there with the best of them :D....

Two handed? why??? Hand on lower arm? is that because they believe that you cant move your arm up and down by yourself??

As for shaking hands with females, depends on the person really.... Some people look like they are fine with a normal handshake, some need a little more care....

[FzerozeroT]

The super squeezers are trying to show you how tuff they are, a barely audible "ok, what a fag" about two seconds later usually turns the tables quite well :D

[MikeL]

The super squeezers are trying to show you how tuff they are, a barely audible "ok, what a fag" about two seconds later usually turns the tables quite well :D

Silly mind games. At least if you're onto it you can choose how to react. It's all a bit pointless, though. Fifty years ago you might judge a man's character by his handshake. Now it doesn't mean diddly squat. That firm, manly, hearty squeeze signifies a trustworthy and honest character? Used car salesman practice it daily ...
And don't forget that the homogeneous Anglo-Saxon society of those days with its rigid, dreary conventions is gone for good. So what if an Indian handshake is different? Most Asians dislike handshaking and do so reluctantly just to conform to western expectations. The French and Italians (not notably more effeminate than the rest of us despite some prejudices to the contrary) generally offer a limp hand. But they shake hands far more frequently than we do. The vice-like grip which some of us affect would quickly become tiresome and tiring.
Cultural relativism: kowtowing might seem offensive to us but to a Chinese grasping someone's hand and squeezing it vigorously is equally bizarre.

[jrandom]

Used car salesman practice it daily ...

Yes! We can have a handshaking technique segment from the host at Frosty's next mechanical evening, complete with 'closing smile' practise and the teeth-sucking delivery of 'they all do that, guv' :p



The French and Italians (not notably more effeminate than the rest of us despite some prejudices to the contrary)

Noticeably *insaner*. I don't think anyone would accuse them of effemininitism. Effeminuity. Thingy.

And I just had another French CV land on my desk today! Where are they all coming from? If we hire him, that'll make 3 of them in my team of 12 (it's not *my* team, per se, I'm just a small, greasy, squeaky cog in it) all within the last year or so. Has anyone else recently experienced a sudden, inexplicable influx of French engineering types?

NB: Jokes regarding rainy weather bringing out the frogs will be deemed to be in Bad Taste (tm).

[Her_C4]

I too hate the wet ragger handshakes but there is one i find even worse, perhaps you've expereinced it. If you havent its hard to understand just how mind numbingly aggrivating (sp) it is...
You offer your hand in normal fashion, that is your thumb is basically pointing up in the air, then they put thier hand out kind of horizontally forcing you to turn your hand over, palm upwards. Its flamin ridiculous and annoying. I read somewhere its some kind of pathetic dominance type phsyco pathetic dumb ego i'm top dog know your place be subservient to me type mind game b.s. :angry2: :angry2: :angry2:
If anyone knows the type of handshake im talking about i'd like to know what you think too.

Only marginally worse that the wet ragger

Agree, handshakers like this are showing their dominance. I have to shake hands with men and women every day in a multitude of situations, and experience every sort of handshake that there is - I have found that there are a couple of options that I have utilised to deal with the aggressive handshaker:

1. Put your hand directly on top of theirs (ie with your palm also facing dowward), and look directly into their eyes. Make it brief and then move on.

2. Grasp their hand in the shake and then twist it so that you are more equal (ie both thumbs up)

3. Step right into the handshake with the left foot (puts them off balance and they right the hand)

:msn-wink:

Check out this website - http://rebrown.com/rebrown/handsh.htm for an opinion on handshaking and body language.

:niceone:

[KATWYN]

Check out this website - http://rebrown.com/rebrown/handsh.htm for an opinion on handshaking and body language.

:niceone:


Aha! thats what I want, cheers for that

[Motu]

So what if an Indian handshake is different? Most Asians dislike handshaking and do so reluctantly just to conform to western expectations.

True,Asians seldom shake hands,same as me....but the Indians are very pushy about it,they walk in for any reason and insist on a hand shake,as I said,it seems a 'must do' for them,perhaps it was drummed into them in 'Kiwi training' before they left,but they stand out to me,same as Asians at intersections - anyone who doesn't fit my ideals of the perfect Kiwi gets noticed by me,they are picked on and ridiculed until they conform.

[James Deuce]

Yes! We can have a handshaking technique segment from the host at Frosty's next mechanical evening, complete with 'closing smile' practise and the teeth-sucking delivery of 'they all do that, guv' :p




Noticeably *insaner*. I don't think anyone would accuse them of effemininitism. Effeminuity. Thingy.

And I just had another French CV land on my desk today! Where are they all coming from? If we hire him, that'll make 3 of them in my team of 12 (it's not *my* team, per se, I'm just a small, greasy, squeaky cog in it) all within the last year or so. Has anyone else recently experienced a sudden, inexplicable influx of French engineering types?

NB: Jokes regarding rainy weather bringing out the frogs will be deemed to be in Bad Taste (tm).

We have acquired two French Project Managers in the last 3 months. Strangely it has improved intra-project communication, because everyone has to work hard to understand what they are on about. Both of them have almost impenetrable Gallic accents. You know, like they gargle phlegm as a conversational technique.

[Hitcher]

We have acquired two French Project Managers in the last 3 months. Strangely it has improved intra-project communication, because everyone has to work hard to understand what they are on about. Both of them have almost impenetrable Gallic accents. You know, like they gargle phlegm as a conversational technique.
But as you grew up watching "The undersea world of Jacques Cousteau" you can understand perfectly, oui?

[James Deuce]

But as you grew up watching "The undersea world of Jacques Cousteau" you can understand perfectly, oui?

Shhh! Why do all you Ulysses full membership candidates have to keep reminding me that I am approaching associate "experience" levels?

Hmmm????

[Hitcher]

Shhh! Why do all you Ulysses full membership candidates have to keep reminding me that I am approaching associate "experience" levels?

Hmmm????
What is it you are trying to incinerate? Are you saying I am officially a Grumpy Old Fart™?

[tuscan]

I went to an all-boys school and we were taught to shake hands like a 'MAN!' :crazy: