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Leong
9th February 2007, 19:36
Just reading the latest Autocar magazine in Whitcoulls - Bike section of course!

Theres a report on the California Superbike School at Philip Island. More importantly suggests that they intend setting up in NZ soon, probably at Taupo!! :Punk: Anyone know more or done one of their courses before?

Fat Tony
9th February 2007, 19:49
I haven't any first hand experience, but one of my mates has done up to level 4 with them. Rates the time with them highly. Not cheap though over here.

trumpy
9th February 2007, 20:41
Go to www.superbikeschool.co.au for all the Aussie info. Download the lap of Phillip Island, worth a watch.
Their Aussie prices aren't too bad for what you get. Everyone I have spoken to who has done one of their courses rates them highly.
If they come here I will definitely be a starter (might reduce the "wobble factor")

nudemetalz
9th February 2007, 20:54
Actually the link is http://www.superbikeschool.com.au/

Quite cool !!

trumpy
9th February 2007, 21:01
Actually the link is http://www.superbikeschool.com.au/

Quite cool !!

Err, Doh!!:doh: Thanks for that................it's late.....

nudemetalz
9th February 2007, 21:06
Nah worries, I was keen to have a looksie.
You can d/l a lap of Eastern Creek too which is groovy. The rider pushes the engine a lot harder there than at Phillip Island with the revlimiter coming in quite frequently !! Is it a 600 there and a 750 at Phillip Island?

Sparky Bills
9th February 2007, 21:41
Ive been looking into this for a while now. Would love to head over there and do it, but once again, my wallet is saying no!

Hope to do it next year.

Panther
9th February 2007, 21:55
how unretared (as a rider) do you have to be before they let you in?

L.L. Cool M
9th February 2007, 22:13
I have had thoughts of doing things like this when I go overseas, the price for the tutoring is reasonable... until you see how much it costs to rent a bike and gear for the day! Holy crap! That's totally unreasonable in my opinion. Especially when you see the excess on the bike as well.

Anyway, I would hope that they come to Taupo (or that other place that's being made) as then I could take my bike. Why someone hasn't already set up a school like this over here, I don't know. Don't people want to make money?

R6_kid
10th February 2007, 11:12
how unretared (as a rider) do you have to be before they let you in?

i think the saying is 'money talks', but if you read their site im sure you will find that aslong as you can ride a bike around a track then they can work with you. Of course getting tank slappers from other riders may be a problem when they are following you around the track.

N4CR
10th February 2007, 11:16
'lets teach squids how to ride.'

why not learn how to do it yaself?

bistard
10th February 2007, 11:21
Hayden Bool here in NZ is a qualified Keith Coad instructor,I wonder why
he never did anything with it,I am sure there is money to be made here,as this thread suggests,there is a market for it
I have run over the years many road/race training days for customers at manfield & they were ahuge success

kiwifruit
10th February 2007, 11:23
'lets teach squids how to ride.'

why not learn how to do it yaself?

wtf? :mellow:



I hope it comes to fruition, id be there with bells on.

Panther
10th February 2007, 12:00
I hope it comes to fruition

making puns now are we Mr Fruit?

kiwifruit
10th February 2007, 12:04
no pun intended

mud boy
10th February 2007, 12:10
i will go to that when i comes to NZ sound really cool:yes:
more training i will be needing it:yes:

R6_kid
10th February 2007, 17:34
i will go to that when i comes to NZ sound really cool:yes:
more training i will be needing it:yes:

are you yoda in disguise or something?

Clivoris
10th February 2007, 20:34
are you yoda in disguise or something?

No disguise bro. He could be his twin.:yes: Maybe a little taller and not so green.

mynameis
10th February 2007, 23:50
I don't have much information on whether it will be done here in NZ or not, but either way a good start is to actually read his books and watch the DVD.

I have improved after reading a few chapters only and haven't read the whole book yet but my strips are down. And he does outline some really good aspects of cornering which you otherwise wouldn't pick even after years of riding and experience.

I know Keith Codes son is on KB and he surely should be able to confirm this with you Leong, but I will leave it to him to post on here otherwise PM me for his username.

Mort
11th February 2007, 00:10
I did levels 1,2,3 & 4 in the UK. Without doubt the best money I have ever spent on my riding. You can forget lusting after the latest bike, go faster bits, exhausts etc.... the best thing you can do is train your brain... The CSS is the best way I have found of doing this.... no matter whether you are a novice, experienced rider or racer you will get something from these courses. It really will transform your track and road riding.

In the UK, Andy Ibbott teaches the courses and also coaches racers (Including 125 GP champ Thomas Luthi and British Supersport rider Leon Camier (http://www.leoncamier.com/) who was sat in the same class as me on level 3...

I can't praise the course high enough. The techniques and drills really work and are valuable to any rider.

matthewt
11th February 2007, 09:58
I did lvl1 in LA a few years ago. It was expensive because I had to hire gear and the bike but it was well worth it.

Leong
12th February 2007, 19:15
I did levels 1,2,3 & 4 in the UK. Without doubt the best money I have ever spent on my riding. You can forget lusting after the latest bike, go faster bits, exhausts etc.... the best thing you can do is train your brain... The CSS is the best way I have found of doing this.... no matter whether you are a novice, experienced rider or racer you will get something from these courses. It really will transform your track and road riding.

In the UK, Andy Ibbott teaches the courses and also coaches racers (Including 125 GP champ Thomas Luthi and British Supersport rider Leon Camier (http://www.leoncamier.com/) who was sat in the same class as me on level 3...

I can't praise the course high enough. The techniques and drills really work and are valuable to any rider.

How big are the classes? I'd assume they must limit numbers, which must increase the cost - really unsure how successful it could be long term in a country like ours with such a small population - and a hell bent mentality on getting everything CHEAP ( sorry been watching too much current affairs )

Next trackdays at Taupo March 2 and 9... will we see you there?

Fat Tony
19th May 2007, 03:17
I've just booked Level 1 with CSS at Rockingam (UK) on 9th July - can't wait - though I'll miss the kidney I had to sell to pay for it ;)

Sanx
19th May 2007, 05:34
'lets teach squids how to ride.'

Squids can't ride. They don't have the opposable thumbs needed to operate the indicator switch.

jimevo
19th May 2007, 07:54
How big are the classes? I'd assume they must limit numbers, which must increase the cost - really unsure how successful it could be long term in a country like ours with such a small population - and a hell bent mentality on getting everything CHEAP ( sorry been watching too much current affairs )

Next trackdays at Taupo March 2 and 9... will we see you there?


I did the PI Level 1 course last November and that day was simply AWESOME. All 4 levels are accomodated on the track and each group gets about 6 laps per session and there are 5 sessions for the day.

Yes it is expensive (inclusive of hiring their bikes) but money well spent I reckon.

Ralph
19th May 2007, 09:05
Hell yeah that'll be wicked if they started a school at Taupo, but do we have the numbers to support it in NZ????
I'd attend if it was here for sure.

sAsLEX
19th May 2007, 09:08
Hell yeah that'll be wicked if they started a school at Taupo, but do we have the numbers to support it in NZ????
I'd attend if it was here for sure.

That was what I was wondering, but the main cost would be the staff, do a few concurrent weekends here in a break in Aus..... ship the bikes fly the staff maybe

Ralph
19th May 2007, 09:15
That was what I was wondering, but the main cost would be the staff, do a few concurrent weekends here in a break in Aus..... ship the bikes fly the staff maybe

I'd be happy to use my own bike and gear as it's insured for the track but they would need their's I guess,
I wounder what the cost would be?? I'd cough up $500 for a day like that for sure but would that be enough :scratch:

R6_kid
19th May 2007, 09:40
I think there would be a real opportunity for it to get setup at Hampton downs, of course Taupo does have the benefit of being 'half way'.

In saying that Hampton Downs does have a lot of elevation change, and as we aren't all racers, that is somewhat closer to what we can expect on the road than taupo is.

Fat Tony
19th May 2007, 18:04
I wounder what the cost would be?? I'd cough up $500 for a day like that for sure but would that be enough :scratch:

Just to give you an idea of rip off Britain, my day at Rockingam's costing £369 (about NZ$1000) - and that's on my own bike! Not sure if I'll ever save enough again to do level 2, lol

BUT, it'd be way cheaper in NZ I reckon.

pritch
20th May 2007, 07:33
When I looked at that Oz website I thought it would be great to go to Phillip Island to do the course. It'd be cheaper at Taupo but Phillip Island is special...

Then again if Taupo got going we could do both :-)

Ralph
20th May 2007, 08:31
Just to give you an idea of rip off Britain, my day at Rockingam's costing £369 (about NZ$1000) - and that's on my own bike! Not sure if I'll ever save enough again to do level 2, lol

BUT, it'd be way cheaper in NZ I reckon.


:gob: :shit: :pinch:

I would hope it was a bit cheaper otherwise not sure if I could do anymore than
one but would still be worth it by the sounds.

trumpy
20th May 2007, 09:53
Just to give you an idea of rip off Britain, my day at Rockingam's costing £369 (about NZ$1000) - and that's on my own bike! Not sure if I'll ever save enough again to do level 2, lol

BUT, it'd be way cheaper in NZ I reckon.


Ye Gods, you are being ripped off. According to the Australian website Phillip Island is GPB166.00 (NZ$449) using your own bike.............I'm sure I read that correctly...........mind you it is Sunday morning and it was a long night...............

Mort
26th January 2008, 01:05
Just to give you an idea of rip off Britain, my day at Rockingam's costing £369 (about NZ$1000) - and that's on my own bike! Not sure if I'll ever save enough again to do level 2, lol

BUT, it'd be way cheaper in NZ I reckon.

.... if they did it here... But trackdays are good value at about $100-$125

Fuck me... thats gone up a lot . I did levels 1-4 ..... it was about £200 - £250 two years ago... It was worth it though

Nonbeliever
26th January 2008, 20:54
Kieth code is a scientologist.

Just thought I'd put that out there.

HenryDorsetCase
27th January 2008, 13:10
I dont give a rats arse what kooky sect Keef belongs to. He could be something really bad, like a Catholic, and I still wouldnt care.

I was all set to do this this year, but the dates of the schools just didnt work out with the trip(maybe trips) I am doing to Aus.

FWIW I thought the prices were not bad, particularly if you take your own riding gear. Even the bike hire isnt too bad, provided you dont lunch it. There is a report on KB from someone who did just that, cost him $3500AUD. ouch. But not surprising, relatively high value vehicle with a short lifespan anyway, and the complete inability to obtain insurance must equal expensive to crash.

Not sure it would be any cheaper here, but put it this way, if they go to Taupo, I am there. (even though its just about as expensive to get there from Christchurch as Melbourne. is...)

sAsLEX
27th January 2008, 13:21
There is a report on KB from someone who did just that, cost him $3500AUD. ouch.

I saw one crash report for a bike like this in aussie.

They replaced any scratched fairing. They did not repair them.

They had the new set of plastics custom painted then custom stickers made.

They charged exorbitant amounts of labour.

A racer would of had the bike back out within half an hour after replacing the low side damage but the company ensured everything was replaced if had the barest hint of a scratch on it, and then added huge labour bills on to it.

jim.cox
28th January 2008, 15:53
Squids can't ride. They don't have the opposable thumbs needed to operate the indicator switch.

Sorry, but squid's can and do ride - they just don't indicate much.

Oh and its kinda fun watching them trying to get a knee down

zeocen
28th January 2008, 17:12
If anyone wants to know what it's like in the USA, a guy on youtube did the course as well as Freddy Spencer's high performence riding school and videoed both (helmet POV with talking etc..)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4VyrnAkEqGg

That's the first episode, there are around 9 - 10 episodes of his riding there, so you could learn to expect how things are done etc.. Provided they'd do the same things in PI.

Usarka
28th January 2008, 17:20
provided you dont lunch it. There is a report on KB from someone who did just that, cost him $3500AUD. ouch. [QUOTE]

[QUOTE=sAsLEX;1399419]They replaced any scratched fairing. They did not repair them.

They had the new set of plastics custom painted then custom stickers made.

They charged exorbitant amounts of labour.


Not a surprising figure, mate just had a quote for a low speed crash, scratched fairing and brake lever came to over NZ$3,000......