I want to open a bar in Napier

[canarlee]

but i dont think many people will see it there, so sorry and delete this one if you want lol


i need a little info on Napier, i have google searched it and it doesnt really give too much info.


my plan is to move over that area and buy/set up a bar, am i going to a good sort of place for this or can you recomend anywhere better?



cheers, lee

[paturoa]

Been there a couple of times recently to visit my brother, and was very impressed with the cafe / bar growth on the northern side of the hill.

[yungatart]

Hi
There are lots of cafe/bars here but if you were going in to one that provided a live music venue as well, it would be great!!
The climate here lends itself to an outdoor lifestyle.
Good luck with your new venture - make sure it is a biker friendly place and we will be sure to support you!

[Macktheknife]

Give this lot a go and if you don't find what you need let us know.
Good luck with it.

http://www.google.co.nz/search?hl=en&q=Napier&btnG=Google+Search&meta=cr%3DcountryNZ

[McJim]

Just make sure you pay attention to the numbers - Kiwis tend to drink at home not in pubs or bars like europeans. You certainly won't get the throughput that you would from a bar in Puerto del Carmen!

Being self employed in New zealand looks tough too (mind you being employed here is tough!) come over with your eyes open and it'll be fine - if you expect it to be some sort of paradise and an easy life forget it.

Banks charge like wounded bulls over here too - they still haven't abolished an annual fee for credit cards yet:gob: so hunt around before you open an account here (recommend Kiwibank or Taranaki Savings Bank)

Other than that - the weather is very mild - never below 0 never above 30. Had to get used to no more -15 frosts or 37 degree heatwaves. Oh - and the Kiwis ALWAYS complain about the weather (it's too hot/cold/windy/still/dry/humid...delete as appropriate)

It's a good place for motorbikes though.

[fozz rock]

ive lived in napier for 3 years now and its a kool place(wellington for 27 years)

but i no longer drink so know shit all about the bars here

[Motu]

Oh - and the Kiwis ALWAYS complain .

Sad,but it's become a national pastime - just follow KB for a couple of weeks,every day there are half a dozen threads with Kiwi's complaining about something.And to think we used to be such a laid back people....

[Ixion]

Including those complaining about people complaining.

And those complaining that people complain too much about people complaining too much .

:rofl:

[MSTRS]

Stop it Ixion. Or I'll have to complain :nono:

[The Pastor]

if u set up a pub make sure you have awesome biker deals like come here on a bike and get a free beer.

And undercut everyone hard out (10% at least) err you can afford it.

[Ixion]

Stop it Ixion. Or I'll have to complain :nono:

I'm going to complain about you complaining that I'm complaining.

[MSTRS]

But I haven't. Yet.

[Motu]

Including those complaining about people complaining.

And those complaining that people complain too much about people complaining too much .

:rofl:

When we overthrow the government I will become minister of complaints - my office will have a revolving door....that doesn't enter my office.

[imdying]

Kiwis can't hold their liquor, and as such like to get drunk and fight, factor that into your costs. The further north you go, the darker the problem, the bigger the problem. Open a bar in Queenstown instead, you can charge like a wounded bull there as an added bonus.

[Ixion]

But I haven't. Yet.

I want to complain about him complaining that he hasn't complained yet.

[yungatart]

I want to complain about him complaining that he hasn't complained yet.

That is just silly, Ixion. How can you complain about a non - complaint?
Anyway- we only do abuse and arguments here, you need to find another room for complaints.

[Ixion]

I want to argue that not complaining about a complaint amounts to constructuve complaing.,

[yungatart]

I want to argue that not complaining about a complaint amounts to constructuve complaing.,
I want to complain about your terrible spelling.
I hope your debating skills are better.

[Ixion]

You said you only dud argument and abuse, not complaints. So you can't complain about speiling

[yungatart]

You said you only dud argument and abuse, not complaints. So you can't complain about speiling

All right, then, smart arse - you are f***en useless at spelling!
You are a silly old nana who cannot spell...so old, that school hadn't even been invented when you were young.:stupid:

[Ixion]

Ah, abuse, yes that's better. But you missed 'speiling'.

I shall have to complain about the poor quality of your abuse.

[McJim]

Ah, abuse, yes that's better. But you missed 'speiling'.
.


Maybe she thought you were playing a german board game?

[Ixion]

You have to choose either abuse, argument or complaints.

You can't have complaints because this is an amateur event and as a Scotchman you're classed as a professional complainer. You can have abuse if you want, being from Glasgow you won't be very good at that.

[Macktheknife]

SO thats is a 5 minute argument then is it?

[yungatart]

Yes. If you want more, you have to pay!

[The Pastor]

I want to complain about hijacking a thread......

[MD]

Banks charge like wounded bulls over here too - they still haven't abolished an annual fee for credit cards yet:gob: so hunt around before you open an account here (recommend Kiwibank or Taranaki Savings Bank)

Oh - and the Kiwis ALWAYS complain about the weather (it's too hot/cold/windy/still/dry/humid...delete as appropriate)



I'd say bank fees in NZ are at the lowest end of the scale. Go try a French, German or Jappo bank for a pleasant surprise. make sure you have heart pills handy.
He's thinking about opening a bar so I doubt the cost of a credit card is going to be the make or break decision. That'll be the least of his worries after commercial rentals, builders to refurbish, wages, taxes, backhanders to the local mongrel mob mafia...
But lets not get into an argument or complaint. Back on topic. I spend a fair bit of time in Hawkes Bay and seem to end up in restaurants and wineries. I'd say Napier has too many pubs already. Mid week the staff usually outnumber any patrons. There are plenty of good restaurants and wineries to eat and dine at rather than hanging around bars/clubs/pubs.
Make sure you visit the place and check it out for yourself. Still a top location in summer. Same can be said for Taranaki.

[Patrick]

the weather is very mild - never below 0 never above 30.

I have a complaint...McJimmy laddie is wrong... it is often above 30 degrees... makes for good drinking weather...

[Jimmy B]

Other than that - the weather is very mild - never below 0 never above 30. Had to get used to no more -15 frosts or 37 degree heatwaves. Oh - and the Kiwis ALWAYS complain about the weather (it's too hot/cold/windy/still/dry/humid...delete as appropriate)

It's a good place for motorbikes though.


Oh contrare (is that a word?) Mr Scottish Rider. The sunny Hawke bay frequently exceeds 30 by quite some considerable margin and lets not talk about the UV index

[scumdog]

Kiwis can't hold their liquor, and as such like to get drunk and fight, factor that into your costs. The further north you go, the darker the problem, the bigger the problem. Open a bar in Queenstown instead, you can charge like a wounded bull there as an added bonus.

Q'town bar scene?
Drunken foreign tourists wandering fighting, stealing and driving drunk around 'til early hours and think NZ law doesn't apply to them.:yes: :yes: :yes:


It's the pits.

[imdying]

They probably don't know about the PCA either ;) PR24 at the ready!

[Bloody Mad Woman (BMW)]

Agree with MD. Also the population in the Bay tends towards the elderly - retired folks. I am sure that the KB male members that live in the Bay are exceptions to my next statement (I know youngatarts husband is an exception) - but the the social skills of the male population in the bay are severely retarded, mainly in the age band of 35 - 49. It was certainly a culture shock and educational for me. I have since moved back to Wellington.

[Jimmy B]

Agree with MD. Also the population in the Bay tends towards the elderly - retired folks. I am sure that the KB male members that live in the Bay are exceptions to my next statement (I know youngatarts husband is an exception) - but the the social skills of the male population in the bay are severely retarded, mainly in the age band of 35 - 49. It was certainly a culture shock and educational for me. I have since moved back to Wellington.

Hi BMW cant really comment on the HB social skill deficit other than it probably was never that flash to begin with, living proof was the Onekawa $1 drinks night followed closely my the Mexican Canteena "blokes in a dress drink for a $1 night", ohh happy days, anyway I digress.....

Out of the 20 or so blokes that I counted in my ciricle of mates approximately none of us now live in the Bay. Limited job market and opporuntities for tertiary education have seen us move on. Good place to go back and visit though.

[Dooly]

but the the social skills of the male population in the bay are severely retarded, mainly in the age band of 35 - 49.

Oi!.............only the Bay city folk :yes:

[Alice]

Agree with MD. Also the population in the Bay tends towards the elderly - retired folks. I am sure that the KB male members that live in the Bay are exceptions to my next statement (I know youngatarts husband is an exception) - but the the social skills of the male population in the bay are severely retarded, mainly in the age band of 35 - 49. It was certainly a culture shock and educational for me. I have since moved back to Wellington.

I have lived in the Bay for a number of years now after living in several parts of the country including Wellington and Nelson.

I must jump to the defence of the local population because from my personal experience living here I have found there are many intelligent articulate motivated people who are a pleasure share time with. Some of these people are what society classes as "professionals," (I personally think putting people into boxes sucks) others are just your average joes going about there lives and having fun. Some are talkers, some are not, hey nothing wrong with that, its just differant personality types.

The Bay has a lot going for it, I am not sure where you are coming from with your statement, our realitys are really quite differant.

Did you spend a lot of time at the RSA when you lived here.

[Dooly]

I must jump to the defence of the local population because from my personal experience living here I have found there are many intelligent articulate motivated people who are a pleasure share time with.

Now your'e talking!:yes: :scooter:

[Stickchick]

Dam I have been applying for jobs up there and now you are making me seriously think about whether I do want to go. Surely its not that bad, I have family up there and have been to visit many a time but never for long periods of time. Maybe I should just stay put

[Jimmy B]

Dam I have been applying for jobs up there and now you are making me seriously think about whether I do want to go. Surely its not that bad, I have family up there and have been to visit many a time but never for long periods of time. Maybe I should just stay put

Hey Stickchick,

Dont worry too much about what BMW says. The Bay is a fantastic place to live and it has so much going for it in terms of lifestyle. The people are great and because its not such an effort to get around you can see more of your friends than you would in a place like Auckland. Another plus for you is you already have family there so it would be easy to get yourself established, good luck with the job hunting.

[MSTRS]

I must jump to the defence of the local population because from my personal experience living here I have found there are many intelligent articulate motivated people who are a pleasure share time with.

Thanks Alice. It's true.


Dam I have been applying for jobs up there and now you are making me seriously think about whether I do want to go. Surely its not that bad, I have family up there and have been to visit many a time but never for long periods of time. Maybe I should just stay put

Admittedly, smaller cities can be a little 'cliquey' - who gives a flying f... about them. Whose drum do you march to??

[Stickchick]

Thanks Alice. It's true.



Admittedly, smaller cities can be a little 'cliquey' - who gives a flying f... about them. Whose drum do you march to??

My own drum but I'm not a confident person so therefore moving to somewhere different has got me a little worried about fitting in. Will just have to see if the employers of the bay want some like me first hehehehe

[Alice]

Dam I have been applying for jobs up there and now you are making me seriously think about whether I do want to go. Surely its not that bad, I have family up there and have been to visit many a time but never for long periods of time. Maybe I should just stay put

I find its best to form your own oponion on something and not always believe the oponions of others who have formed there oponions by experiences that will probably be completly differant to what you may experience. That is not to say that it is wise to totally disregard what others have to say, just keep an open mind.

Besides, anyone slagging off the Bay and its people basically does not know what they are talking about anyway.

[Bloody Mad Woman (BMW)]

Sorry Alice never went to the RSA, and do calm down, where does it say in my thread all folk in HB are like that - I can only share my experience of SOME of the people I met. I also limited the thread to those people and never mentioned activities. I respect the fact that some of your experiences are totally different.
I love the Hawkes Bay to visit, just wouldn't live there again - I would love to have an Ocean Spa here in Wellington.
We have lived in the same places Alice - that is - the ones you mention above.

Stickchick - depends what career field you are in - you can always get seasonal work, professional/administrative is alot harder to come by - it is definitely more a case of who you know - I got two jobs like that - people stay in their jobs. I also worked in a packhouse - now that is hard yacker and I admired and respected the people that could do that full time.

[MSTRS]

My own drum but I'm not a confident person so therefore moving to somewhere different has got me a little worried about fitting in. Will just have to see if the employers of the bay want some like me first hehehehe

The Bay has had it's problems employment-wise, but is generally speaking no worse than anywhere else now. It is also true that networking is particularly strong here. But in saying that, people are very friendly so it's not difficult to get yourself 'known'

[oldrider]

Other than that - the weather is very mild - never below 0 never above 30. Had to get used to no more -15 frosts or 37 degree heatwaves.

It's a good place for motorbikes though.

McJim, I think you are confusing Auckland with New Zealand!

Your minus 15C+ frosts :cold: and 37C+ heatwaves :sunny: are the norm down here in the mainland!

The adage: "Don't leave home until you've seen the country" applies to visitors and immigrants as well as residents it seems. :hitcher: Cheers John.

[Stickchick]

well I have to say someone is smiling down on me as I just got rang from a recruitment agent for a job up there and I only applied this morning. All I have to do now is work out how I'm gonna get up there without taking too mucht ime off work and they frown upon having too much annual leae at a time

[Guitana]

but i dont think many people will see it there, so sorry and delete this one if you want lol


i need a little info on Napier, i have google searched it and it doesnt really give too much info.


my plan is to move over that area and buy/set up a bar, am i going to a good sort of place for this or can you recomend anywhere better?



cheers, lee

You could be better off investing in a tinnie house in hastings the returns are great and tax free without the hassles of council consents and local bylaws!!
But I would be happy to support your future establishment the next time I visit the Bay no matter what choice you make!! Napier would be your best bet my man more tourist dollars to be had!!!!