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James Deuce
10th February 2007, 23:32
There's something faintly creepy about middle aged blokes adopting the patois and posture of swaggering teens, but if nothing else it serves to remind us of a couple of things - 1. Teenaged blokes aren't really dicks, they just have the dick-mode switch set to "on" all the time, and 2. Yes, breasts really are all the way up "there" on teenaged girls (isn't Summer GRAND!).

Thanks to a couple of issues from the Z prang, plus warping a front disk on the scouting mission the week prior to the "Dangerous and Rashika do Welly (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=43142&highlight=Dangerous+Rashika)" ride I've been sampling other worlds again. Worlds with 14,500rpm redlines.

What a great bike. I really wish these things had been around during the late two-stroke era, because even then I was tainted with the "Captain Sensible" ethos. The styling is superb, and even slightly worn with age, you can see the hints of '70s Laverdas and '60s racing Hondas. I particularly like the curved exposed frame rails under the tank, the instrument pods (really easy to read at a glance) and the front indicators are the coolest art-deco meets Buck Rogers things you've ever seen. Bullet shapped and mounted on stub wings precisely half way up the round, and very effective headlight, they give the impression that rocket powered flight is imminent.

The NOISE! WAAAAAAAAAAAA - WAAAAAAAAAAAA - WAAAAAAAAAA, right that's 50 km/h. Just brilliant. You feel like you're doing a million miles an hour everywhere and thanks to that magically slick Suzuki gearbox (how DO they do that?) wanging your way up and down the box is not just a joy but a necessity. Wasp knows how I feel about the noise his bike makes, but even with the standard pipe it is still a hoot.

250cc bikes like this demand precision in all things to get the best out of them, which to my mind probably makes them less effective as learner tools. Sure they aren't hugely powerful, but unlike 250 2-strokes of the same era the power builds in a linear fashion from about 8000rpm, rather than coming on with a sudden snap which is why I wish they'd been around when I was still in my chicken-shit learning phase. Get a line wrong and you've usually managed to get yourself caught in the wrong gear too, which leaves you making the same flat bwaaap noise a 250 2-stroke makes when its owner is less than 100% committed. I suppose that could be part of the learning process, but I can't help thinking that being able to open the throttle in any of three gears would probably save newbies from making unplanned excursions down people's driveways. Or not.

Mind you with the lightweight and very direct handling, plus a fantastic front brake, with excellent feel and power from one disc no less, someone with half a clue could change line mid-corner on a whim.

If you're thinking about a 250 that can do anything from commute to tour I can't see how you could go wrong with one of these puppies. Make sure the example you look at purchasing is well maintained and not suffering from "Ham-fisted 250 Owneritis" and you've got a bike that will get you through your learners and restricted period not only safely, but with some seriously good riding skills. From walking pace to hill fanging you'll be collecting scalps from Subaru GTs and lazy sprotsbike owners with ease.

Mr. Peanut
10th February 2007, 23:41
My 2 stroke's pretty linear.

James Deuce
10th February 2007, 23:52
You're a peanut and therefore your opinion is worthless, plus your two stroke is a GP bike compared to the two strokes I'm talking about.

Mr. Peanut
10th February 2007, 23:53
Worthless? There's over 300 uses for peanuts.

Homo Sapiens Sapiens indeed.

James Deuce
10th February 2007, 23:54
Homo Sapiens Sapiens

An awful lot of them are allergic to you, you know.

Mr. Peanut
10th February 2007, 23:56
301.........

xwhatsit
11th February 2007, 02:51
My 2 stroke's pretty linear.

Um, no it's not, you don't even have powervalves :D

Morcs
11th February 2007, 11:47
Thanks for the great review.

Well mine is louder, faster and cooler than a standard one, and its for sale ;)

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Motorbikes/Sports/auction-87210391.htm





Ps. I never miss an opportunity hehe... :laugh:

Mr. Peanut
11th February 2007, 12:07
Um, no it's not, you don't even have powervalves :D

That's what the clutch is for...

El Dopa
11th February 2007, 15:46
[LEFT] Bandit 250's are great.

You should try a 400. Same frame size as a 250, but that little bit of extra grunt.


There's over 300 uses for peanuts.



Such as:

1) A humourous substitute for your own nuts.

2) Erm.....Is that someone calling me from the basement? Must dash.

gamgee
11th February 2007, 16:05
You should try a 400. Same frame size as a 250, but that little bit of extra grunt.


yeah you should, like my one:
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=87776378

:innocent:

Phurrball
11th February 2007, 16:47
Nice write up Jim - glad you enjoyed your jaunt.

I rate my baby-Bandit for all the same qualities you mention - it does everything you can throw at it (on-road) pretty well and keeps a smile on the dial :) Mine has an aftermarket zorst too, so the noise adds to the fun.

I only occasionally want a little more oomph on the open road, but I think I'll be hanging on to mine for a while yet - can't say I'm in a great hurry to have my bank account rap*d in order to get rid of the daft yellow licence I now hold...

Wasp
11th February 2007, 23:31
Wasp knows how I feel about the noise his bike makes, but even with the standard pipe it is still a hoot.
They sound even better with no pipe on at all ;)

You had the black one from tss right?

alexthekidd
11th February 2007, 23:41
i love my new bandit, though why oh why won't somebody give me weight bars for it

James Deuce
12th February 2007, 00:42
Weight bars? Do you mean Bar End Weights?

Mr. Peanut
12th February 2007, 01:57
No Jim, I think he means protein supplements.

Phurrball
12th February 2007, 14:34
i love my new bandit, though why oh why won't somebody give me weight bars for it

Re: the bar end weights - if that's what you mean...

I lost one and replaced with after-market ones - silver, so match teh touches of chrome on the rest of the bike. Lighter, but numb hands only happen on seriously long rides (so time for a rest then anyhoo)

I think I still have my old weighted one somewhere - PM me if you want me to dig around for it.

Morcs
17th February 2007, 14:45
I have mine too :)