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ekspatriat
11th February 2007, 10:52
HELP! I've been pulling my hair out here trying to locate (loose) banjos and banjo bolts for my CB1300. Point being they got to be stainless. Been in NZ for only eight weeks and want to buy from NZ (Pom here) Otherwise all the way back to the UK with big postage costs. HELP!

Titanium
11th February 2007, 11:06
Try ANZOR fastners.

http://www.anzor.co.nz/

Cheers


Peter

The Stranger
11th February 2007, 11:30
many of the bike shops up here have SS banjos and bolts. Henderson Motorcycles and Motohaus both had them very recently.

Not my business I know, but I wouldn't use SS bolts unless really necessary. SS is quite weak compared to most grades of bolts. When I removed the calipers on the GSXR, the SS banjo bolts had twisted at the point where the hole comes out of the side of the bolt, so much so that the hole was very nearly completely closed. They were not reusable and I suspect were quite close to failure.

scumdog
11th February 2007, 12:32
many of the bike shops up here have SS banjos and bolts. Henderson Motorcycles and Motohaus both had them very recently.

Not my business I know, but I wouldn't use SS bolts unless really necessary. SS is quite weak compared to most grades of bolts. When I removed the calipers on the GSXR, the SS banjo bolts had twisted at the point where the hole comes out of the side of the bolt, so much so that the hole was very nearly completely closed. They were not reusable and I suspect were quite close to failure.

And that was with them torqued to the correct specifications??:wait:

Hitcher
11th February 2007, 12:39
Banjoes? Try Eltham. The kid with six fingers is his own father.

The Stranger
11th February 2007, 13:48
And that was with them torqued to the correct specifications??:wait:

Somehow I doubt that, I never installed them. That said, they are into aluminium threads and were not at all difficult to remove.

However how many people out there actually
a) have a torque wrench
b) have one suitable for a motorcycle
c) bother to find the correct torques and use them.

vagrant
24th February 2007, 15:16
Somehow I doubt that, I never installed them. That said, they are into aluminium threads and were not at all difficult to remove.

However how many people out there actually
a) have a torque wrench
b) have one suitable for a motorcycle
c) bother to find the correct torques and use them.

After losing a brake caliper on my old CBX, yes to all three.

You would be surprised at how low the torque settings are for most bolts and fittings on your bike, and horrified to realise how close some are them are taken to failure by people who figure that the tighter they can tweak them, the better.

The Pastor
24th February 2007, 22:34
After losing a brake caliper on my old CBX, yes to all three.

You would be surprised at how low the torque settings are for most bolts and fittings on your bike, and horrified to realise how close some are them are taken to failure by people who figure that the tighter they can tweak them, the better.

I got a torque wrench for when I replaced my brake rotors, it measues up to 18 ft pounds, Some settings for my bike are up in the 100's of ft pounds.....

xwhatsit
24th February 2007, 23:05
Somehow I doubt that, I never installed them. That said, they are into aluminium threads and were not at all difficult to remove.

However how many people out there actually
a) have a torque wrench
b) have one suitable for a motorcycle
c) bother to find the correct torques and use them.

What's a torque wrench suitable for a motorcycle as opposed to your everyday garden torque wrench? Hopefully won't be pulling apart my engine any more, but I can see it might be useful to have around, at least so I don't have to borrow my Uncle's clicky one.

And yeah, it was surprising how low the torque settings were -- when I did the head bolts, they didn't seem at all tight enough, but that was what Mr Haynes and the wrench said, so I believed them. No wonder there were so many stripped threads all through the engine when I stripped it down the first time.

The Stranger
25th February 2007, 06:46
What's a torque wrench suitable for a motorcycle as opposed to your everyday garden torque wrench? Hopefully won't be pulling apart my engine any more, but I can see it might be useful to have around, at least so I don't have to borrow my Uncle's clicky one.

And yeah, it was surprising how low the torque settings were -- when I did the head bolts, they didn't seem at all tight enough, but that was what Mr Haynes and the wrench said, so I believed them. No wonder there were so many stripped threads all through the engine when I stripped it down the first time.

Most of your common garden variety half inch drive torque wrenches are hugely inaccurate at low torque settings. Most of the settings are quite low and the tollerance is not that great - Usually a fastener is designed to yield before it strips, that way you know if there is a problem with the fastener. However with a steel fastener and ali female thread this is probably not going to be the case, so if you do over tighten the thread you possibly wont know until too late i.e. it fucks up whilst you are riding.

I have 2 - a half drive for the big stuff and a 3/8 drive with a certified accuracy for values between 15 and 75 ftlb.